YTSEJAM Digest 1345 Today's Topics: 1) Mail Item Format Warning by "RESPONSE at IBMMAIL 03/12/96 - 14:50:00" 2) Satch, Tony MacA. by Brian Wherry 3) YTSEJAM digest 1344 by "Steven Johnson" 4) .Sig Cease-Fire by The Masked Avenger 5) Lieber ein's zuviel, ... by Andreas Richter 6) Birch Hill Dub.......I need one by email_address_removed ( 8) Demo Tape Review by Darren Redick 9) KM Webpages, serious lack of maturity, and cool sigs! by "Devil's Plaything" 10) Shadow Gallery (ndtc) by BILL HUSTON 11) Korn??? by Chris Oates 12) Re: Shadow Gallery (ndtc) by "Jonathan Byrne" 13) Diet Dew by email_address_removed 14) Soundgarden by email_address_removed 15) Caught In A Web by email_address_removed 16) Re: YTSEJAM digest 1340 by email_address_removed 17) Ytse-Boxers by email_address_removed 18) Dream Theater to Bill Bruford by Michael Backof 19) Re: Attention German Jammers by email_address_removed.ac.at (Guenter Obiltschnig) 20) various... by email_address_removed (Zack Gemmill) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Tue, 12 Mar 1996 10:04:30 EST From: "RESPONSE at IBMMAIL 03/12/96 - 14:50:00" To: email_address_removed Subject: Mail Item Format Warning Message-ID: The mail item that you sent at 14:39:47 GMT on 12 Mar 1996 has been delivered. However, it has been necessary to convert this item into a format that is acceptable to the recipient, FITIPMOL at IBMMAIL. Information beyond column 79 in the mail item will have been wrapped. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 12 Mar 1996 11:16:42 -0500 (EST) From: Brian Wherry To: DT List Subject: Satch, Tony MacA. Message-ID: Ok, so everyone's talking about how great Joe and Tony's shows are -- how about some tour dates?! The rest of us wouldn't mind seeing them, either! Anyone? Brian --==Brian Wherry==-- --==email_address_removed==-- "Do. Or do not. There is no try." -Yoda ------------------------------ Date: 12 Mar 1996 09:59:09 GMT From: "Steven Johnson" To: email_address_removed Subject: YTSEJAM digest 1344 Message-ID: *** Reply to note of 03/12/96 08:31 Gilbert....touche...You may have a point about the Aerosmith guys being honorary. However, they WERE mentioned in the Berklee ad as having gone there, not just some guys in the shot. The comparison to Bruce D. pictured with DT meaning "he's in the band" is irrelevant. The ad wasn't a celeb photo opportunity, it was a resume of names who supposedly went to Berklee. That's all I can say about this topic, 'cause that's all I know. But thanks for doing the research. Your answer may be the right one. LATER- Steve p.s.--The sig. wars are really annoying. *************************************************************** "I'll be defending you on the charge of......MURDER ONE!?! Wow! Even if I lose, I'll be famous!!" - Lionel Hutz, attorney *************************************************************** ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 12 Mar 1996 11:18:37 -0800 From: The Masked Avenger To: email_address_removed Subject: .Sig Cease-Fire Message-ID: ALRIGHTY! I see the pain we have caused. I have felt the growing heat from our fellow ytsejamians who despise the nature of our conflict. I shall now declare a .SIG CEASE FIRE!!! A D.S.Z (DE-SIGatized ZONE) Shall be in force upon this section of The Web, and all shall participate in the acts of Peace and Harmony!! From now on (I do so declare) ALL of the posts emanating from my modem shall contain at least a smidgeon of DT content. (Which is fitting, Being this the Ytsejam and all) All .SIG files shall be peaceable, happy SIG files. The smiling faces of Sir D-Man reign Triumphant! I do apologize for this rash outbreak of sillyness, and do solemnly swear to take this battle to where it belongs! ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 12 Mar 1996 18:15:05 EST From: Andreas Richter To: email_address_removed Cc: email_address_removed.de Subject: Lieber ein's zuviel, ... Message-ID: >> >>"Lieber ein's zuviel, als ein's zu wenig." >> Aktien Brauerie, Kaufbeuren >> >>What does this say in english? >> >I believe it's something like 'love the large as you love the small'... god >that sounds STUPID... anyways I only know pathetically small amount of >Geraman... but Lieber is love, zuviel is a lot, als is as, and wenig is a >little'.... oh well, I'm sure there are some Deutscher jammers... BTW...what >does my last name mean in german... I believe it's chit-chat or something >like that... That's a really funny translation ! I don't know if this is correct english but the meaning is: 'Better one (beer) too much than one (beer) to less' Aktien brewerie, Kaufbeuren O.K., it's still stupid !!! Bye ANDI ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 12 Mar 96 12:34:53 EST From: email_address_removed ( Hey Jammers, I was wondering if anyone with a copy of the tape from the birch hill show is willing to make a dub for me. e-mail me at email_address_removed with any info you may have. Thanx. See you all on IRC, Ryan Inverso KDR66 Pi Beta Chapter ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 12 Mar 1996 09:52:34 -0800 (PST) From: rhsalsa To: Ytsejam Cc: email_address_removed Subject: Joe Satriani show Message-ID: I just got back from seeing Joe Satriani last night in Santa Rosa. It was a killer show...I had tears in my eyes! Stu Hamm kicked ass! :) Had a great time, went to a meet and greet before the show. I got a free sampler CD with his autograph, had him sign his new cd sleeve, and took photos with him. He is a great guy....too kind...but, he has no hair. Yes it is all shaved off. :) He looks good though. Just thought I would share my great night, and I hope whoever else is going to see him, has as much fun as I did. Especially you Dave in Riverside. Shay /\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\ Check out a great R n' R band and my buds at... http://www.rockweb.com/sedona /\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\ ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 12 Mar 1996 18:01:59 GMT From: Darren Redick To: email_address_removed Subject: Demo Tape Review Message-ID: <199603121801.SAA26795@nethead.co.uk> Hello Jammers! I was wondering if any of you out there in Ytseland would be interested in reviewing my bands demo tape? We spent a lot of time putting it together and it would be cool to a)get some feedback on it and b)get a little exposure. It's three songs long and more Prog(Prague?)Rock than Prog Metal. Anyone who may be interested please email me privately. As one invariably has to say after a post like this, sorry for the lack of DT content. -Darren "Carpe per diem, seize the pay" -Robin Williams ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 12 Mar 1996 11:57:25 -0700 (MST) From: "Devil's Plaything" To: Ytsejam List Subject: KM Webpages, serious lack of maturity, and cool sigs! Message-ID: Hey everyone!!! Got a few things to say 1) About the Kevin Moore homepage...looks great!! Just hope its not another one of those "Impossible Pain" things. (NIN fans'll know about this one). 2) To the guy who flamed the BART&HOMER sig (the one with about 700 iterations of SHIT!)...I understand the lack of taste in the posting of the sig, but lets get a bit of maturity when you write something...you sound like you work in a machine shop on the lower east side...doesn't give you much in the way of credebility! 3) Oh yeah...my contribution to the Great War of Signatures. 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L8r... <><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><> ME <><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><> PAPINED@ PR.erau.EDU You asked for it! }8^) The Devil's Plaything ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 12 Mar 1996 12:23:47 -0700 From: BILL HUSTON To: email_address_removed Subject: Shadow Gallery (ndtc) Message-ID: Jammers, Just picked up Carved in Stone at Graywhale. Does anybody know why they deleted the even numbered songs on the cover? The only even number song is #8 all the rest are skipped. I've only been able to hear the first song and it definitely is interesting stuff. I'm unable to make a review yet obviously. They list an email of email_address_removed right under the fan club address. I guess I'll try that to see what happens. While I was there, I saw a CD by I Mother Earth-Dig. Does anybody know about this? It was in the used rack, along with 3 DT (DT content) CD's. Let me know if I should buy this. I'm wearing my sweat shirt from Trey and got comments about it from the guys working there wanting to know where they could buy lots of them to sell :>. Later, Wilmo ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 12 Mar 1996 11:47:05 -0800 From: Chris Oates To: The BafuJam Subject: Korn??? Message-ID: Aren't they the folks who do that innane nursery-rhyme song? I equate them as on the same level as POTUSA for that, and I didn't go to see Ozzy because they were opening. If I am wrong, please inform me in private. __ /\ __ __\/__\/__ \_||_/ ~Chris /__||__\ // \ | \\ \| ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 12 Mar 1996 14:45:28 -0500 (EST) From: "Jonathan Byrne" To: "YtseJam" Subject: Re: Shadow Gallery (ndtc) Message-ID: On 03/12/96 at 11:24:37 BILL HUSTON said: >Jammers, > Just picked up Carved in Stone at Graywhale. Does anybody know why >they deleted the even numbered songs on the cover? The only even >number song is #8 all the rest are skipped. When you listen to the whole disc, pay close attention. There are little interludes between each major cut, and those are on the even numbered tracks. Freaked me out for a while, too. While we're on the subject of non-DT bands, I got my first crack at Fates Warning (Parallels) the other day (Thank you, Columbia House!). Pretty cool. Better than Shadow Gallery, IMHO. Later everybody ------------------------------------------------------------------------- "I choose to walk beside Jonathan Byrne Instead of lead West Virginia University To learn from their mistakes." email_address_removed -"Here I Am", echolyn ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 12 Mar 1996 15:21:39 -0500 From: email_address_removed To: email_address_removed Subject: Diet Dew Message-ID: >"Diet Mountain Dew is the biggest waste of space on the planet-no >sugar-none of that legendary caffeine, and it tastes like a urine sample!" Probably was. Dew does have that piss color to it. Some people that work at factorys play cruel pranks, so WATCH OUT FOR THE DIET DEW! A Damn Dyer ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 12 Mar 1996 15:23:16 -0500 From: email_address_removed To: email_address_removed Subject: Soundgarden Message-ID: >I apologize for the non-DT content, but I just read something in one of >the digests that bothered me. It was the reference to this year's >Lollapalooza and what will happen when the metal crowd meets the >"alternative" crowd. It really disturbs me that Soundgarden is being >considered alternative. Now, I'm not one for catagorizing musical >artists in the first place (and I'm sure that I'm opening myself up to >all kinds of flames), but, if Soundgarden is going to be catagorized, I >would rather people realize that they are more hard rock or metal than >alternative. All you have to do is listen to "Badmotorfinger" to tell >that. I know that they don't really want to be looked at any one way, >which is why each album is different. And from what I've heard of the >new album, this one will be different from it's predecessors, too. Thank You! that's what I'VE been trying to say all along! A Damn Dyer ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 12 Mar 1996 15:21:44 -0500 From: email_address_removed To: email_address_removed Subject: Caught In A Web Message-ID: >Um, hello? I mentioned Caught in a Web in digest 1333. Where have you been? > :) well EXCUSE ME, but it seems that by the time I reply to the jams, someone else has already beat me to it! A Damn Dyer ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 12 Mar 1996 15:21:46 -0500 From: email_address_removed To: email_address_removed Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 1340 Message-ID: >>Well, my local station, called "Pure Rock Alternative" constantly >>plays VH, Ozzy, Metallica, P Floyd, Down, occasionally Anthrax, so >>there you have it > >damn. We kinda had/have the opposite problem down here. We got a >station that claims to be "Real Rock Radio" yet i'm constantly hearing >all this other crap, you can guess. Anyways me and a bud called up a >dj and asked if she could play some DT. (Theres yer DT content:) She >told us she loves DT but she doesnt decide what goes on the air. ?! >ok i can understand they need to play "whats popular" a little so they >can make some dough, but it was getting really bad for a while. We >started calling up their comments line and bitching at them every so >often. I stopped listening to the radio COMPLETELY for the last >several months. To my surprise when i flipped it on today on the way >to pick up some lumber I heard old Van Halen! As well as some other >cool stuff including this one collective soul song i really dug. >Things are starting to look better guys, keep a lookout ;) Well, Rip, remeber al the cool songs that came on the radio when I was on IRC Saturday? This was the sation. Unfortunately, they usually play crap like Joan Osbourne and Rancid. Saturday was just a good day for them. I actually requested DT once on an all request weekend, and the DJ said in a real snotty vioce, "We don't play Dream Theater." when I asked why, she said "We just don't, OK?" A Damn Dyer ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 12 Mar 1996 15:21:47 -0500 From: email_address_removed To: email_address_removed Subject: Ytse-Boxers Message-ID: >What next? Boxer shorts, Bed covers, Novelty tooth-brush holder? :-)) I don't know about you, but i would wear Ytse-Boxers! A Damn Dyer ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 12 Mar 1996 15:58:12 -0500 (EST) From: Michael Backof To: email_address_removed Subject: Dream Theater to Bill Bruford Message-ID: HEllo Jammers, This isn't even hard, besides on r.m.p I think they banned use of Bruford in this game since it is too easy for people to use him. 1. Dream Theater 2. Steve Howe (guested at Ronnie Scott's gig with DT) 3. Yes (Steve Howe is in Yes) 4. Bill Bruford (Was in Yes ages ago and on Union) Piece of cake, it is probably more fun to not go to Bruford but someone else in the prog world, and not allow use of Bruford. Lots more fun. Later, Mike ************************************************************************ *Mike Backof **** email_address_removed *** http://www.gl.umbc.edu/~mbacko1 * *Inferno Home Page ******* http://www.gl.umbc.edu/~mbacko1/inferno.html* *Unsigned & Indie Label Bands Page ******************* Support ********* *http://www.gl.umbc.edu/~mbacko1/munsign.html ****** Local Bands ******* ************************************************************************ ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 12 Mar 1996 22:00:50 +0100 From: email_address_removed.ac.at (Guenter Obiltschnig) To: The Bafu Vai Appreciation Society Subject: Re: Attention German Jammers Message-ID: email_address_removed wrote: > I saw the following saying on a t-shirt: > > "Lieber ein's zuviel, als ein's zu wenig." > Aktien Brauerie, Kaufbeuren > > What does this say in english? > ... "Its better to have one [beer] too much than one too few." I agree... Guenter (aka YtseObi, and from Austria, btw) ********************************************************************* Since it is now illegal to use the word FUCK on the Internet, great care has been taken to avoid the usage of the word FUCK in the above message. ********************************************************************* ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 12 Mar 96 13:11:25 PST From: email_address_removed (Zack Gemmill) To: email_address_removed Subject: various... Message-ID: <9603122111.AA20370@tengs1> > > P.P.P.S. (Enough already) The reason the movie "Heavy Metal" was never > released on video was that they couldn't secure artist clearance for all the > music. The soundtrack was released on CD though. (Scott, I'll probably send you a VHS tape later this week...) > > I dont really care where you hold YtseCon III ....but I have > to side with Digital Man on this one.... I know there are more 'jammers in the Bay Area than people are letting on. No one has volunteered to try to have some 'con out here. I guess CA really is a rat race. Perhaps, the best we can hope for is a get-together at the Taco Bell across from The Warfield when the tour comes to SFO !>)> Speaking of tours, I saw the Satriani show in SJ the other night, and it was unf**kingbelievable! The last time I saw him was for the FIABD tour, with Stu and Jonathon backing, and I thought it sucked (for Satch). He must've been tired that time (or depressed because Eric Johnson opened). I didn't even see him on _The Extremist_ tour because of that (and Hamm and Mover weren't backing him) This time he was incredible! He added so much to those songs live... I was in awe watching him make love to his guitar so effortlessly. Mover was great, and Stu Hamm and his bass: one man band. He did a great bass solo, though I missed the "Linus and Lucy" bit. If you get a chance... go see it! He even made the songs from the new album sound good (yes, I don't care for it). Petrucci who? (whoah, just heard some thunder !>|> > Hey how many of you Jammers think that Innocence Faded sounds like the > beginning of some cheesy sitcom like '90210' or something, I don't know, > it's just something that hit me recently. That's about it. > H E Y Y O U G U Y S ! > --------------------- Alright! Who's the Electric Company whacko around here? (Look out, Spidey!) > If you haven't heard...I am getting some other ytsejamers together to > go in on a bunch of Dream Theater Watches. Are we fanatics, or what? (I'll stick with my Seikos...) That's what I told this guy at a _Subway_ shop the other night. He saw me wearing my DT sweatshirt, and said, "So, you like Dream Theater, eh?" (duh). I went into a long spiel... told him how all of us were religious DT zealots on a holy crusade, and so on... >>Anyone who likes those bands should go out and buy Death's _Symbolic_. >>They are better musicians than the above 3 (don't slag me, 'tallica >>is my 3rd favorite band). I think they're doing what Metallica should've >>done after the Black album (if that were possible for them). >Huh? What Metallica "should've done after the Black album"? Correct >me if I'm wrong, but Live Sh*t: Binge & Purge was a live album. So you've >heard the new album? How is it? I'm an idiot (no prefix). I meant *before*. I say this because the guitar melodies kind of remind me of some of Kirk's solos on AJFA. Death's, though, are way out there beyond that. I think they are really beautiful. (Yes, there is beauty to be found in death metal). I picked up _Individual Thought Patterns this weekend, too. I've only listened to it a few times, but I think it's really good. I still prefer _Symbolic_, because the songwriting is more mature, while the power and energy are still there. Zach ------------------------------ End of YTSEJAM Digest 1345 **************************