YTSEJAM Digest 1297 Today's Topics: 1) Mail Item Format Warning by "RESPONSE at IBMMAIL 02/27/96 - 11:43:42" 2) Re: YTSEJAM digest 1296 by email_address_removed (Ghost) 3) Rant & Rave by email_address_removed 4) Re: opening for Maiden? by Stephen Bajzek 5) The King of the Jam by nga@software-ag.de (Neil Gallop) 6) what's with the forwards? by Matt Rosin 7) hairball? by john galt 8) Trey's shirts by BILL HUSTON 9) testing by email_address_removed 10) "Como se dice Laussade?" and the future (I'm feeling kinda spooky) by "Christopher R. Merlo" 11) John Petrucci sound,. by email_address_removed 12) subscribe by email_address_removed 13) DT on the radio! by Glenn Waterfield 14) Abbreviations and Pronounciations by Elliott Kim 15) Re: YTSEJAM digest 1296 by email_address_removed 16) Re: YTSEJAM digest 1295 by email_address_removed 17) BafuPost on BahrBootlegs by email_address_removed 18) Derek is not gay by Greg Chew ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Tue, 27 Feb 1996 06:44:33 EST From: "RESPONSE at IBMMAIL 02/27/96 - 11:43:42" To: email_address_removed Subject: Mail Item Format Warning Message-ID: The mail item that you sent at 11:44:27 GMT on 27 Feb 1996 has been delivered. However, it has been necessary to convert this item into a format that is acceptable to the recipient, FITIPMOL at IBMMAIL. Information beyond column 79 in the mail item will have been wrapped. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 27 Feb 1996 08:06:30 -0500 (EST) From: email_address_removed (Ghost) To: email_address_removed Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 1296 Message-ID: WHY ARE THERE SO MANY??!! How can you possibly read all these? I get 3 Ytsejams per every 1 of the other newsletters I subscribe to. ========================================= Ghost email_address_removed - - "Ding!" - - Hemispheres, I. Prelude, Rush (1978) ========================================= http://www.webcom.com/qghost/ ========================================= ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 27 Feb 1996 08:10:49 EST From: email_address_removed To: email_address_removed Subject: Rant & Rave Message-ID: --- Saapunut 03.MAPE 90-4694432 27-02-96 14.37 -> IBMMAIL.INTERNET IBM IMX Hi everyone! Now as someone (I assume it was Skadz) has liberated us from the evil 'Mail Item etc...'- stuff and gotten me out of the doghouse, I finally dare to open my mouth...Skadz, if you stop by here in Finland, I'll buy you a beer. Any of our local beers tastes way better than those fermentation bin washings you drink over there. With the possible exception of Michelob. (IMO, of course) My vote in the 'President of the 'jam' election would have to go to Bafu because Ytse-Ben is a minor, and that prevents him to work efficiently in any administrative position. Both Bafu and Ben are equally warped (positive) and at least I would not have as much fun reading these if either one was missing, so it's a tough call to elect between them. The above serves as a plausible excuse to make some kind of difference. There's been so much babble about Mr. Sherinians sexuality and Ms. Amos and other as unimportant topics that I'm starting to wonder if any of the posting persons ever has anything better to do that to deliberately raise waves in the 'jam.... When talking about this DT tribute thingy, has anyone thought of the possibility of making a prog-rock symphony? The jam has a shitload of musicians on it and that means tons and tons of possible contributors. Some of the more acknowledged musicians (Jay Peele? Bernd Basmer?) could compose the whole thing, one part of the Ytsepopulation could make the required guitar and bass tabs. The composer could tell the lyricists(sp?) what the composition's theme is and select the best lyrics amongst the entries for the final song. This way there could be multiple drummers and percussionists and this means all sorts of neat polyrhythmics. How would a wall of fifteen guitars sound like? Or five sets of keyboards? Battle of two basses? A choir? Just a thought..... Has anyone thought out a competitive version of either of the drinking games? And for the ones wondering how to understand women, how's this one? Back when I&W was the only DT CD I had, she loved every song on it. When I bought Awake and she heard about ten first beats of 6:00, she decided DT was too jazzy for her and has refused to listen to any DT material (including I&W) ever since. Now would any of the female jammers inform me what can this kind of behavior be based upon? Any amateur psychologists out there? Last week my local music store pissed me in the eye. They boast that they can acquire any CD in the world just by getting the record company label, band and CD title. I tested this and they told me that they cant acquire Angra's 'Angel's Cry' bcoz it's a Japanese import, and they had never gotten ANY information about either Superior or Ivanhoe. Now I need a way to purchase these CD's without having to pay International Money Orders. Bernd Basmer has helped me concerning the Superior CD, but the other ones would cost me about forty bucks apiece. That's too much. Would any of the Finnish jammers (Karri K.K. or someone else) be interested in making a group order of Angra's or Ivanhoe's CD's? As of how have I gotten into DT it happened when I was winding through a tape of Headbangers Ball. As usual there was none of my fave bands in it and I started rewinding the tape and hit play when I saw some very agile keyboarding. What hit me in the head was the drumwork. As everyone has guessed by now, the video was TTT. I listened the drummer for a while and rewinded the song to the beginning and listened it about a dozen times. Until then I had been very convinced that there's no match for QRyche on this planet, but my world hasn't been the same since. So don't tell MTV is of no use. It got me into DT. It seems this got a bit long. But on the other hand what's bandwidth for if not wasting? Bye for now. Mape - The foreigner who by some sources got subscribed accidentally and doesn't know how to unsubscribe.- ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 27 Feb 1996 08:21:41 -0500 (EST) From: Stephen Bajzek To: Multiple recipients of list Subject: Re: opening for Maiden? Message-ID: Excerpts from mail.ytsejam: 26-Feb-96 opening for Maiden? by Conrad email_address_removed > Does anybody know who is opening for Maiden on this U.S. > tour? Fear Factory. They're pretty cool unless you have something against death metal. I saw the show Friday night, and both bands were bloody awesome. -Max Anton Max Keyboards, Aepithex MadMax+@cmu.edu ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 27 Feb 96 14:23:10 +0100 From: nga@software-ag.de (Neil Gallop) To: email_address_removed Cc: email_address_removed.de Subject: The King of the Jam Message-ID: hi all Brian, aka DreamNDay, recently asked who we would vote to be king of the Jam. Bafu? No: too sane. Ben? No: too old. I propose the most frequent contributor, everybody's friend, "RESPONSE at IBMMAIL". This guy doesn't vary his postings much, but he is very persistant. All hail King RESPONSE!! But why be satisfied with just a king: why not a queen too? I promise this next bit will be my last contribution to the ytse-drinks game. The ultimate booze for all true-blooded jammers has got to be the Metropolis (so lime port). The answer was staring us in the face all the time, and we were to stupid to see it. Did anybody realize that Ytsejam is not quite a palindrome of Majesty? I must start taking the tablets again. Moving on, we come to the next point that has been puzzling me (some DT content here, folks). There is a lot of stuff posted here saying that Dream Theater and progressive music in general deserve more attention and a wider audience, but there is also a lot of stuff (sometimes from the same people) saying they want the concerts to remain small and personal, thus making for a troop of exclusive elitists who can still look down on the rabble who don't like/understand demanding music such as that played by a lot of prog bands. Hm, looks like a small dilemma or personality disorder there, nurse. Does anybody have a sensible answer to this little teazer? And finally, a positive note to end on. Somebody recently praised the fact that there are a lot of music tips being thrown around on the jam, and that people are getting to listen to new/unknown bands and music as a result of these tips. I can only agree whole-heartedly. Without the jam I would never have heard of Vanden Plas, Superior or Skyclad - keep those tips coming. PS Does anyone know when "Dearly Beheaded" are going to release their album? stay safe and happy listening Neil Gallop (nga@software-ag.de) Currently playing: Biohazard - State of the World Address ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 27 Feb 1996 08:33:41 -0600 (CST) From: Matt Rosin To: email_address_removed Subject: what's with the forwards? Message-ID: why do people keep post those presidential "do you remember the bill of rights?" forwards to the jam? i'm sure most of us have already found that forward in our mailboxes at least several times already, so give it a rest, people. <><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><> Matt Rosin * SURREALITY: ambient-experimental PO Box 15315 * IMAGESCAPE: ambient-progressive metal College Station, TX * Matt Rosin: vocals/synths/programming 77841-7315 * http://http.tamu.edu:8000/~msr7146/imagescape email_address_removed * email: email_address_removed <><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><> ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 27 Feb 1996 09:56:33 -0500 (EST) From: john galt To: Yitz-see-jam Subject: hairball? Message-ID: .if anyone wants any info on hairball, ask me. i know how to get in touch with him. syrinx. ----------------------------------------------------- | "..don't you wanna rule the world a little bit, | | who to help and who to leave to swim? | | you could better everything, the serpent said | | in your own peculiar way | | history would honour you no matter what you did | | don't you really wanna try?" - tony banks | | * * * * * * * * * * * * | | mike ostrich email: email_address_removed | ----------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 27 Feb 1996 08:49:53 -0700 From: BILL HUSTON To: email_address_removed Subject: Trey's shirts Message-ID: Jammers, Just wanted to say that Trey's sweat shirts were underrated! I got mine yesterday and they indeed turned out better than I imagined. I'm wearing it to work today and getting lots of comments and am finding out who the closet fans are :> I also have one of Jason Giles t shirts and it too is quality stuff. If any of you haven't ordered a shirt from either of these guys you're missing out. Next time you get an opportunity, take it. BTW, Ytse-Ben and Bafu Vai (my baby cockatiels I wrote about earlier, not the real ones) are doing well. They're ugly as hell right now but all baby birds are. When they're juveniles then I can sell them and that will make all the sleepless nights worthwhile. Later, Wilmo ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 27 Feb 1996 11:26:14 EST From: email_address_removed To: email_address_removed Subject: testing Message-ID: testis, testis, one, two,.....three??? Lata Thunder PS excuse my waste of bandwidth..... ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 27 Feb 1996 11:30:55 -0500 (EST) From: "Christopher R. Merlo" To: Ytse Jam Subject: "Como se dice Laussade?" and the future (I'm feeling kinda spooky) Message-ID: > From: Chris Oates > Subject: Laussade > > Low (rhymes with cow) Ssade (like Marquis de Sade, rhymes with "bod") > Or maybe Low (rhymes with bow) Ssade (same) I always thought it was either "Luh-Sawed" or "Luh-Sahhed." How do you say "Ytse-Ben," anyway? --- > From: email_address_removed (MS DEBBIE M VESTAL) > Subject: 10 years later... > > For instance....where do you folks on the Jam think Dream Theater will be > in 10 years? What changes do you think there will be in their music...in > their lyrics....stage presentation....pant sizes.....keyboardists...etc? Hmm, let's see. In 10 years, I think that Dream Theater will have changed its name to Dream Theatre, to appease all the fans that can't spell. Their seventh album, "It's What's For Dinner," will include "Metropolis, Part IV: The Ytsejam Drinking Game and the #ytsejam Drinking Game." Derek Sherinian will have announced that he's bisexual and will have been replaced by Tori Amos. John Petrucci will have been replaced by Bafu Vai, since JP's going to be in prison for beating an old EVH to death with a JPM 400. They will have toured with Rush, but very few people will have liked it, even though they thought they would. Oh, and they will have gotten rid of EastWest, and signed with Prism Records. Ok, now for a serious answer: I think that about four or five years from now Dream Theater will be what Nirvana was about four or five years ago. That is to say, everyone will be "discovering" prog-rock-metal-whatever because EastWest smelled the coffee and did a little promotion. And what they will be discovering is the new DT single, much the same way that "Teen Spirit" broke open the grunge scene. However, I also think that Dream Theater is going to ride the crest of that wave for a long time and not die out like Nirvana did. Rather, I see all the prog bands like DT, Fates, Shadow Gallery, etc., helping each other out. As for us, we'll still be around, 'jamming like always. Except some of us will probably be teleconferencing, instead of reading e-mail. And we'll probably be watching the band on this infernal metal box as well. Then again, maybe they'll just go disco. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ \|/ ____ \|/ The Digital Man \|/ ____ \|/ "@'/ ,. \`@" email_address_removed "@'/ ,. \`@" /_| \__/ |_\ email_address_removed /_| \__/ |_\ \__U_/ http://www.emba.uvm.edu/~cmerlo \__U_/ ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 27 Feb 1996 11:33:18 EST From: email_address_removed To: email_address_removed Subject: John Petrucci sound,. Message-ID: c c mv m ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 27 Feb 1996 10:02:22 -0500 (EST) From: email_address_removed To: email_address_removed Subject: subscribe Message-ID: subscribe ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 27 Feb 1996 10:51:52 -0600 (CST) From: Glenn Waterfield To: email_address_removed Subject: DT on the radio! Message-ID: Hi everyone! I actually heard Dream Theater on the radio last night! That has to be the first time since I used to hear PMU back... when the hell was that? I recently found a metal station (thank the Lord!) here in Chicago. They're only on after 10pm, but it's a start. Anyway, they played Lie and LSoaD BACK TO BACK! Can you believe it? And they played the ZEP medley a couple of days before. I'm complelely in awe. LSoaD contrasted nicely with the Motorhead they had played a few minutes earlier. :) The station is 103.1 Rebel Radio if you're in the area. Cheers! (since I actually spelled out DT earlier) Glenn ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ L. Glenn Waterfield "Listen brain; I don't like you and you don't "Physics advisor like me, so let's just get this over with so to the stars" I can get back to killing you with beer." Argonne National Lab -- Homer J. Simpson email_address_removed email_address_removed ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 27 Feb 1996 11:52:34 -0500 (EST) From: Elliott Kim To: Dream Thespians Subject: Abbreviations and Pronounciations Message-ID: Im-HO, D T is the best band out there. My favorite album, is "Widadoo." And my favorite songs from that album are "To Whats Its," "El-Fagga," and "Oh-Mot." On their next album, "Eye and Double-ewe," there are some real killer songs like, "Oo-ah-g'm," "Wufuss," and "little." Highlights from Awake include "El-Soad," and "Amby." I just couldn't get enough of this band, so I went out and bought "Ay-Cose." Then I got on the internet and subscribed to the Ytsejam. I saw Bafu Vai's posts and I was "Rot-Flame-Oh." . . .. Elliott Kim Florida International University .. . email_address_removed email_address_removed . _ . _ _ _ . _ _ _ _ . . ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 27 Feb 1996 12:00:47 -0500 From: email_address_removed To: email_address_removed Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 1296 Message-ID: mebacher ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 27 Feb 1996 12:14:21 -0500 From: email_address_removed To: email_address_removed Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 1295 Message-ID: For those who like Fates Warning As Well, Fates has lost Frank Aresti and has add Andre Corbin (Helstar) for the future tour. The new album will be out in early summer. The CD will have one song and will be 45 to 60 Min. in length. Dave ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 27 Feb 1996 13:02:32 -0500 From: email_address_removed To: email_address_removed Subject: BafuPost on BahrBootlegs Message-ID: >> From: email_address_removed >> Subject: CD dubs of Mike Bahr's SUBCONSCIOUS >> >> Fellow YTSEJAMMERS sit down before you hurt yourselves. Yes it is >> true I can make you a copy of SUBCONSCIOUS on CD. Now before you mess >> yourself understand that this is a COPY and it is not an original from >> some secret stock pile. >Can anyone tell me what such recordings would be called? Booty-bootlegs? >Double-bypass bootlegs? Bahr-legs? He! He! I think it would have to be BahrBootlegs said almost like a stutter. :^) >> It WILL sound exactly the same as the original. >> It WILL NOT look exactly the same as the original. >> It WILL cost the same as the original. $25 U.S. > >It WILL increase your sex drive. >It WILL NOT add highlights to your hair. >It WILL increase your falsetto range. I always look forward to a BafuPost because laughter is very healing. At this point I think we also need a term for the reaction you have after reading a BafuPost. I think it would have to be BafuBellyLaugh also said almost like a stutter. :^) Go Bafu. Later, Jim Colberg ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 27 Feb 1996 13:30:23 -0500 From: Greg Chew To: email_address_removed Cc: Multiple recipients of list Subject: Derek is not gay Message-ID: >> Hehe. Is Derek gay? Does it matter? Thinking about it, he's the only one >> in the band without long hair...and you know what they say about men >> with long hair.. > >With the way Derek was all over one of my female friends at the >YtseCon and the Malibu aftershow 6/13/95, I wouldn't say that Derek is gay. > >Yours, >Jeff =) Actually, I heard that Derek has the underwear of every woman he's slept with, lined up on the walls of his room. ewwwwwwww.... Greg :) @@@><><><>===<><><>===<><>===<>==<<@@@>>==<>===<><>===<><><>===<><><><@@@ Gregory Chew -- "In with the ashes, or up with the smoke from the fire?" email_address_removed :):):):):):) -- Kevin Moore, Dream Theater @@@><><><>===<><><>===<><>===<>==<<@@@>>==<>===<><>===<><><>===<><><><@@@ ------------------------------ End of YTSEJAM Digest 1297 **************************