YTSEJAM Digest 1290 Today's Topics: 1) Lifting Shadows by Brad Kane 2) Mail Item Format Warning by "RESPONSE at IBMMAIL 02/24/96 - 18:42:04" 3) I want in on some of this too... by rickbond 4) Drinking Game by Chase L Eschauzier 5) Awww by email_address_removed (Brian Anderson) 6) Compilation by email_address_removed (Brian Anderson) 7) Gabbo. by Ben Laussade 8) Cassandra by email_address_removed (ryan good) 9) falsetto one laste time by email_address_removed (MR STEVE P SWEENEY) 10) Some thoughts about, stuff. by "Dr. Teeth" 11) Recording Tribute albums... by BERTAPELLE ADAM RAYE 12) Re: Some thoughts about, stuff. by jbako01 13) Re: Drinking Game by email_address_removed (Robert Quezada) 14) AILIBUBUTUFO by email_address_removed 15) YEAH!!!!!!!!! by email_address_removed 16) Drink. by email_address_removed 17) and..... by email_address_removed 18) Flaming me about Derek by email_address_removed 19) Re: Drinking Game by Gilbert Jack Thetgyi 20) Chuck D by email_address_removed 21) Doughnuts & Depression by Steve Borzilleri ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Sat, 24 Feb 1996 13:23:51 -0500 (EST) From: Brad Kane To: BafuJam Subject: Lifting Shadows Message-ID: Dear jammers, Hey there! I just created an intro page for Lifting Shadows. It's a really really cool logo, let me know what you think! Yours, Jeff =) <*> Jeff Chew <*> email_address_removed <*> (212) 853-6952 <*> <*> http://www.columbia.edu/~jc309 <*> <*> Lifting Shadows : http://www.columbia.edu/~jc309/dreamt.html <*> "Lifting Shadows Off a Dream once broken, she can turn a drop of water into an ocean" -- John Myung, Dream Theater ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 24 Feb 1996 13:42:39 EST From: "RESPONSE at IBMMAIL 02/24/96 - 18:42:04" To: email_address_removed Subject: Mail Item Format Warning Message-ID: The mail item that you sent at 18:42:32 GMT on 24 Feb 1996 has been delivered. However, it has been necessary to convert this item into a format that is acceptable to the recipient, FITIPMOL at IBMMAIL. Information beyond column 79 in the mail item will have been wrapped. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 24 Feb 1996 15:11:02 -0800 From: rickbond To: email_address_removed Subject: I want in on some of this too... Message-ID: Hello. I rarely post on the Jam, but I carefuly read each and every one of them. My name is Rick (as you can see). I have been playing drums for approximately 8 years. Mike Portnoy = God...just wanted to share that. A little something I wanted to contribute to the "double-bass) issue...I can't play without two kicks...I feel naked. I wanted to share my use of the hi-hat/D.bass thing. Anyone that drives a standard transmission automobile will know this quite well. A lot of the time when I play...I use the ball of my left foot on the kick pedal, and the heel of my foot on the hi-hat pedal quite a bit...that's just another way since I can't afford 3 hats like Mr. Portnoy. :) Just to add for the hell of it...I've got I&W, Awake and ACOS in my cd player playing right now...love these guys. Another subject I wanted to comment on was the Falsetto issue. I, personally, believe that knowing the correct way to use falsetto, one could make it sound quite a bit like ones "real" voice. No, I'm not a singer, not trained vocally in anyway, but I'm one HELL of a shower vocalist, and over the years of scrubbing feel that I've manipulated my falsetto to sound more and more like my "real" voice, and being how these guys (tate, Labrie, etc.) are trained...I see it as a quite a possibility. And one last thing before I go...don't know what the chances are of this being seen by who it's meant for, but my condolences to John Petrucci (sp) and his family. Rick Bond ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 24 Feb 1996 15:18:04 -0500 (EST) From: Chase L Eschauzier To: email_address_removed Subject: Drinking Game Message-ID: Knock it off with this stupid drinking game, already! I subscibed to this mailing list to talk about "progressive music with a focus on Dream Theater" not to learn how to be an idiot. Also, this list must be moderated. Four messages a day is way too many, especailly when the focus is shifting so far from its purpose. The whole drinking game thing was funny at first, but it has gone on far too long and takes up way too much space. Oh yeah-whoever whoever posted a few days ago and gave us a list of their favorite bands and included "Iron Maiden or any other grunge or speed metal bands"...whatever. ?????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????? "There's got to be more to it than this, tell me why do exist? I'd like to think that when I die, I'd get a chance another time. And to return, and live again, reincarnate, play the game, again and again, and again." !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! email_address_removed Chase Lucas Eschauzier (860) 439-3438 Connecticut College Class of 1997 ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 24 Feb 1996 16:21:52 -0500 From: email_address_removed (Brian Anderson) To: email_address_removed Subject: Awww Message-ID: >>Brian Anderson: Here, I only have one tissue left. The box is now empty. >Hello everyone, it's BABS. People who know me, know that I can be rather >"earthy" at times. I usually try to never swear on the 'jam (only when >it's appropriate), but the line up above f@#king cracked me up. BTW, I met >Brian Anderson at the convention in Long Island last June, he is a really >nice guy. Somebody help him out in his dilemma... >-BABS Awwww, geee thanks BABS! Let it be known that BABS is a very nice lady too. And thanks to Mike Bahr, I have been helped out. I'll be getting a replacement AD sometime soon. (No, he doesn't have any more availabe, he found someone who had an extra) For those of you that have after market stereo stuff in your car, make sure whatever you have is screwed down, or secured to the car, because if it's not, and it gets stolen, your insurance probably won't cover it. (And take pictures of all your stuff too, that way you can prove you had it --- I did, and it helped 'cause I didn't have receiptsfor everything) -Brian ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 24 Feb 1996 16:26:09 -0500 From: email_address_removed (Brian Anderson) To: email_address_removed Subject: Compilation Message-ID: >Date: Fri, 23 Feb 1996 10:52:29 -0600 (CST) >From: "The Great Wally Llama." >To: Dream Theater >Subject: DT tribute. >Message-ID: > >Ok for all those in favor of doing a DT cover compilation, please e-mail >me and let me know you are interested! Ben and I are getting things >organized and it would help everybody out if somebody knew all the people >who are doing something or another. Please drop me a post including >Name, instrument, and recording machine to which you have access. >4-track machines are fine, but DAT or ADAT is great! For the people who >are hesitant, don't be! . . . . I think this is a great idea, and I would love to hear the finished product if it happens. I would love to join in and lend my musical talents . . . but I don't have any, and besides, I don't think air guitar would sound very good in a recording. -Brian ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 24 Feb 1996 14:25:17 -0700 From: Ben Laussade To: email_address_removed Subject: Gabbo. Message-ID: >Ben Lassuade is possibly *the* most annoying person I know. He has no >clue what he is talking about most of the time, and even if he does, he >never makes sense. I, personally, am glad that he is too young to go >see a DT show. It's immature morons like him that ruin DT's image for >the rest of us. If we are lucky, Ben will *never* be able to see a >show, and the rest of us will be able to enjoy the musical genious >without a senseless brat to bring the mood down. Boy, you better be GLAD I have sense of humor. :-) And, if you're gonna slam somebody like that you should make sure that you spell his name right. L-A-U-S-S-A-D-E Btw....ever seen a picture of Pat? Geez he looks funny! Ben Lau...ah....ahh....CHOO!!!! sade My head won't leave my head alone. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 24 Feb 1996 15:35:13 -0600 From: email_address_removed (ryan good) To: email_address_removed Subject: Cassandra Message-ID: Maybe I'm just Cassandra fleeting.... I think I may have an idea about who Cassandra is from the song "Voices" According to Greek mythology, Cassandra was the princess of Troy. She was called upon my Apollo to grant him her favors and he would grant her certain godlike powers in turn. She then gains these and then evades Apollo and will not sleep with him. Then, he punishes her with a curse: (the punchline refering to the Dream Theater lyrics) nobody will hear her and listen to her. I'm not going to tell anyone how to interpret it, but it's an idea, concidering what the whole song is about, and the idea that the narrator of the story in "Voices" is thinking that they are "Cassandra Fleeting" Just a thought..... Hey, anyone else in Madison going to the Thought Industry show in a couple of weeks?? ____________________________________ "Through Nature's Inflexable Grace, I'm Learning to Live." - Dream Theater name - Ryan T. Good e-mail - email_address_removed phone - 1-(608)-264-2268 what - Madison Student Radio who - Music Staff (Music Stapher) which kind - Progressive Rock/Heavy Metal why - why not? ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 24 Feb 1996 17:53:40 EST From: email_address_removed (MR STEVE P SWEENEY) To: email_address_removed Subject: falsetto one laste time Message-ID: Hi all, Yes this is another word on falsetto...actually it's on vocal range.......the once was a classification of vocalists called castrattos......they were males which where castrated as children to maintain their voices....this is obviously no longer done........any ways, my point is that no one to this day has the vocal range of a castratto which was about 3 octaves.....that's all...later Steve "Mallet Man" Sweeney ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 24 Feb 1996 17:26:08 -0600 (CST) From: "Dr. Teeth" To: email_address_removed Subject: Some thoughts about, stuff. Message-ID: Some general stuff to yack about... First, that collaboration of musicians idea of making a DT tribute sounds great. I only hesitate about the "adding a track and sending it along" idea. I can see someone (possibly unconsciously) thinking, "This riff I have is GREAT! I think I'll just stick it a little higher up in the mix... By doing this, it'll systematically cover up that bass player's killer groove that he's been kicking out. And what about that wicked soundscape that the keyboard guy's been pumping out? All of it might be lost because someone is used to the guitar being high in the mix. Again, I'm not saying this person is being a jerk by doing this. They just do what comes naturally to them, but it might be stomping on the feet of others, ya know? A solution of this is to have player #1 (probably bass) lay down his track, send it to player #2 (probably percussion) listen and add, but put his track on a separate tape. Send them to the keys guy and put his part on another tape and keep sending them until the vocals guy has 5 tapes. Then send all 5 tapes to a mixer person who will do a very conservative mix including all parts in reasonable compliment to each other. When writing this, I realize that I have no idea as to what a 4-track or DAT or ADAT machine does and I'm thinking these machines might be able to take care of this mix problem automatically. Am I right, or are my fears valid? - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - This just keeps bugging me so I'll keep mentioning it. I think this could be a record: No-one that I know of has ever been busy and without free-time of any kind for an entire YEAR! Until now. Imagine it... Having every minute of your day scheduled with something terribly important to do for a whole year, without a single solitary minute to do things that are not considered "Terribly important". Yeah, I'm talking about Al Balkewicz. It's annoying to talk about it but ya just gotta feel for Pat on this one. For over a year he's been involved in a trade where the other partner, Al, has been "too busy" to send his part of the deal to Pat for an entire YEAR. 12 months. 365 days. 1 birthday. In contrast, when I do dubs for people, I feel guilty if I don't get it out the door in a couple of days! I guess some people are completely without conscience. Al, if you're sick of having your name slammed on the net, I have an idea: Be a man and send Pat his tape. You're giving the 'Jam a very bad name. Especially by not saying anything. .-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=. | ______ "Hmmmmmmm..." ____ ______ - David Peterson - | | /\_____\ /\ \ /\ /\___\ /\_____\ email_address_removed.ed | | / /___ / / \/ / / / /\ /_/__ -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-| | / /\__/\ / / / / / / / / /\____\ "The most beautiful thing that | | /_/___/ //_/___ / / /_/___/ / /_/____ this world has to offer is a | | \_____\/ \_____\ \/ \_____\/ \______\ woman's smiling face" - Me | `-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=' ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 24 Feb 1996 17:02:19 -0700 (MST) From: BERTAPELLE ADAM RAYE To: email_address_removed Subject: Recording Tribute albums... Message-ID: I really like the idea of one person recording, sending it in, and then combining all the tapes. It's like, you'd be playing with someone you've never met!!! What if we all just recorded instruments of our choice along with the Cd or something, then we could send the tapes into one mixing guy, and he could do the rest from there? I think it would be cool & fun! ->->->->->->->->->->->->->->->->->->->->->->->->->->->->->->->->->->->->-> Adam R. Bertapelle "If there's a pensive fear, a wasted year email_address_removed a man must learn to cope If his obsession's real, supression that he Ask for my bootleg list! feels must turn to hope." Dream Theater, "Take The Time" <-<-<-<-<-<-<-<-<-<-<-<-<-<-<-<-<-<-<-<-<-<-<-<-<-<-<-<-<-<-<-<-<-<-<-<-< ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 24 Feb 1996 19:04:40 -0500 (EST) From: jbako01 To: email_address_removed Subject: Re: Some thoughts about, stuff. Message-ID: On Sat, 24 Feb 1996, Dr. Teeth wrote: > Some general stuff to yack about... > This just keeps bugging me so I'll keep mentioning it. I think this could be a > record: No-one that I know of has ever been busy and without free-time of any > kind for an entire YEAR! Until now. Imagine it... Having every minute of > your day scheduled with something terribly important to do for a whole year, > without a single solitary minute to do things that are not considered "Terribly > important". Yeah, I'm talking about Al Balkewicz. > > It's annoying to talk about it but ya just gotta feel for Pat on this one. > For over a year he's been involved in a trade where the other partner, Al, has > been "too busy" to send his part of the deal to Pat for an entire YEAR. > 12 months. 365 days. 1 birthday. > I've also been owed by Al Balkiwicz, for about 12-13 months now!! > In contrast, when I do dubs for people, I feel guilty if I don't get it out > the door in a couple of days! I guess some people are completely without > conscience. Al, if you're sick of having your name slammed on the net, I have > an idea: Be a man and send Pat his tape. That's exactly how I feel. That's partly the reason I've been shying away from doing any trades latey. I don't like being shafted. Also, I don't have too much time on my hands, but rather than go back on my word, I just don't offer to do trades. Simple enough. > > You're giving the 'Jam a very bad name. Especially by not saying anything. > Oh, he has; several times (though not lately) he kept saying things to me like "I'll get your tape out by date". I think this sort of behavior makes him even a bigger horse's ass, and I guess it that he just doesn't give a shit enough to be bothered by it. James Bako "Don't tell me you wanted me email_address_removed Don't tell me you thought of me Polytechnic University I won't, I swear I won't Brooklyn, New York I'll try, I swear I'll try" Dream Theater - "Lie" ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 25 Feb 1996 00:31:54 GMT From: email_address_removed (Robert Quezada) To: email_address_removed Subject: Re: Drinking Game Message-ID: On Sat, 24 Feb 1996 12:21:53 -0800, you wrote: > Knock it off with this stupid drinking game, already! I subscibed to >this mailing list to talk about "progressive music with a focus on Dream >Theater" not to learn how to be an idiot. Also, this list must be >moderated. Four messages a day is way too many, especailly when the >focus is shifting so far from its purpose. The whole drinking game thing >was funny at first, but it has gone on far too long and takes up way too >much space. > There is a moderated version of this list. Subscribe like you did to this list, but use Metropolis instead of 'ytsejam' in the 'To' header and in the 'SUBSCRIBE METROPOLIS FirstName LastName' ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 24 Feb 1996 21:27:14 -0500 From: email_address_removed To: email_address_removed Subject: AILIBUBUTUFO Message-ID: >Ahh...that's an easy one! I'd like to hear you pronounce MY name! :-) LAW-SAYD :) >Ytse-Ben...it's what's for dinner Uh, no thank you. I'd rather eat a chick. later--------------Brian ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 24 Feb 1996 21:27:37 -0500 From: email_address_removed To: email_address_removed Subject: YEAH!!!!!!!!! Message-ID: >Currently playing Anthrax - Sound of White Noise YES! KICK ASS! ANTHRAX REIGNS SUPREME later--------------Brian ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 24 Feb 1996 21:27:18 -0500 From: email_address_removed To: email_address_removed Subject: Drink. Message-ID: This is just because I had to post one more to make it five in a row. So drink up. later--------------Brian ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 24 Feb 1996 21:27:07 -0500 From: email_address_removed To: email_address_removed Subject: and..... Message-ID: >new DT >new Fates >new King's X >KISS unplugged, possibly new KISS (sue me if you don't like this) I've contacted my lawyer and I'll see you in court, buddy! Anyway, don't forget new Pantera, maybe new Biohazard, maybe new Megadeth, and (drum roll please, Ben Laussade this means you), NEW METALLICA :D later--------------Brian PS-don't quite know why Ben has to give a drum roll. Saw it in a jam about a month ago and felt like saying it myself. Don't get PO'd, Ben :) ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 24 Feb 1996 21:27:45 -0500 From: email_address_removed To: email_address_removed Subject: Flaming me about Derek Message-ID: Edd, I have no problem. I think Derek has a lot of talent. Me and my friends just have this feeling that he's gay. If you watch the Awake in japan video, to me it sounds like when James introduces Derek, that guy in the crowd is shouting "I like men", and hten they put the camera on Derek, he raises his arm, and if you read his lips, it looks like he's saying "I'm a homo". Just a thought. Bigman, read above. Derek has commited no evil. I just like to fool around a little with the new guy (no, not in that sense, he'd probably like it HE HE HE ;). II wold love to meet Derek or any member, and I would congradulate him on making into the greatest band in the world. I'm not wondering if he will fit in. I never thought he did. He doesn't have the look, and how old is he? FLAME AWAY! later--------------Brian PS-This is ment for jammers eyes only. Sorry to DS if he sees this. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 24 Feb 1996 20:41:20 -0500 (EST) From: Gilbert Jack Thetgyi To: email_address_removed Subject: Re: Drinking Game Message-ID: On Sat, 24 Feb 1996, Robert Quezada wrote: > On Sat, 24 Feb 1996 12:21:53 -0800, you wrote: > > > Knock it off with this stupid drinking game, already! I subscibed to > >this mailing list to talk about "progressive music with a focus on Dream > >Theater" not to learn how to be an idiot. Also, this list must be > >moderated. Four messages a day is way too many, especailly when the > >focus is shifting so far from its purpose. The whole drinking game thing > >was funny at first, but it has gone on far too long and takes up way too > >much space. > > > There is a moderated version of this list. Subscribe like you did to > this list, but use Metropolis instead of 'ytsejam' in the 'To' header > and in the 'SUBSCRIBE METROPOLIS FirstName LastName' Wrong. Metropolis isn't a moderated version of Ytsejam. It is only about news concerning DT. And, to date, there haven't been any. I guess receiving no messages would be better than receiving a lot of messages about a stupid drinking game. Second, Metropolis is at arastar.com and not ax.com. Sincerely, G. Jack Thetgyi P.S. Vote Ben Laussade for Rolling Stone's Best Drummer! -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- G. Jack Thetgyi email_address_removed "Any movie with wakka-cha-wakka in it is okay by me." -Tom Servo, Mystery Science Theater 3000 #512: "Mitchell" -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 24 Feb 1996 20:52:10 -0400 From: email_address_removed To: email_address_removed Subject: Chuck D Message-ID: Hey..just got my copy of WDADU,finally! After being used to James LaBrie,when i listened to CHuckie D....well..to be honest i can understand why he was fired (was he?,if not correct me please) well i disliked his voice..also being used to Fortune In Lines and Killing Hand from the Live At The Marquee Cd..i found it hard to enjoy them being sung by chuckie D...so.. now i cant wait until i get my Dream And Today Unite! THE YTSE JAM RULES!! <--- that song is sooo cooool. Seize The Day and MTFBWY email_address_removed email_address_removed ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 24 Feb 1996 17:06:52 -0800 (PST) From: Steve Borzilleri To: Dream Thespians Subject: Doughnuts & Depression Message-ID: First and foremostly, DT rules! It occured to me that since this is a relatively new mailing list, I'd better get back to saying that phrase every now and then so I don't get anyone fuming about my lack of DT content. I mean, since we're all newbies on a new list, the rite of passage must be dealt with. I figure two or three more times, and then hopefully I can be cleared to communicate freely with the other people on this mailing list about similar hobbies or topics of popular interest. ---- > From: kristopher long > Subject: the ball back? > > "Time to make the donuts, you bastard!" - Arnold Schwartzenegger How is it that SOOO many people saw Letterman that evening? For any who weren't in attendance, the top-ten list was "The Top Ten Lines Rejected For Arnold Schwarzenegger Movies." Read by Arnold himself. Such as: "My, what a lovely laced-doily." "Do you have any Ouchless bandaids?" "Man oh man, do I love fudge!" ---- > From: email_address_removed (Steve Alexander) > Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 1278 > > Whatever you resist will persist. > Whatever you pursue will allude you. Were this guy to enter the Augie Olympics, he'd win at least the silver. (That's the Depression Olympics for those of you who haven't been on IRC with Augie) It turns out that our man Augie slipped this year, achieving the silver himself, with surprising newcomer Damon Fibraio rising to the challenge and grabbing the gold. Ben "Emotional Rollercoaster" Laussade, the lashing frenzy of whim and passion, took the bronze. ---- > From: Ben Laussade > Subject: Geewhizjiminycrickets! > > Here's how to solve it....did his drum set have two bass drums??? Here's an alternate solution....did his drum set have two bass pedals hooked up to one bass drum? Wait, you couldn't see behind his kit? Oh well... Perhaps the Auryn will know... Bafu Vai ------------------------------ End of YTSEJAM Digest 1290 **************************