YTSEJAM Digest 1244 Today's Topics: 1) Ytsejam shirts-It's not too late!!! by "Trey (T-Stretch) Allen" 2) WDADU by email_address_removed 3) AOL chat by email_address_removed 4) ACOS background lyrics by email_address_removed 5) Shadow Gallery news by Kris Claerhout 6) No DT content: KISS News by email_address_removed (John Hough) 7) DT taking drugs? (question) by "REJEAN TREMBLAY" 8) Alternate E-mail address (again) by Baron Sengir 9) whole buncha stuff... by email_address_removed 10) FS: Cygnus by "Alan J. Mallery" 11) my first gig(it sucked) by email_address_removed.cy (BB Theo) 12) Jersey roadie... by "Jill M. Lentchner" 13) DT and Dave by Pat Sullivan 14) Rock Discipline Video by email_address_removed.mx 15) Shadow Gallery Track 20 by Chris Oates 16) WDATU! by email_address_removed (Paul Goracke) 17) Mike Bahr rules (or Just got WDATU) by email_address_removed (Marc Respass) 18) ATTN: Bay Area Galactic Cowboys Fans by email_address_removed 19) DREAM THEATER TOURING EUROPE??? by email_address_removed.it (Alternate Reality) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Tue, 30 Jan 96 02:26:48 -0500 From: "Trey (T-Stretch) Allen" To: email_address_removed Subject: Ytsejam shirts-It's not too late!!! Message-ID: ========================================================================= I T S N O T T O O L A T E I F Y O U H U R R Y ! ! ! ! ========================================================================= =====NEW INFO AND CHANGES!!!========= 1st thing- I need the money for the shirts by the 5th of Feb... Thats a 2 day extension so its not too late to order them! Just email me and send the money fast!!! 2nd thing- Okay...the back of the shirts will have the DT name above a huge Majesty logo. You can see this one my DT web page. The front of the shirts will be: --Ytsejam-- Dream Theater's Internet Mailing List email_address_removed (BTW - If you didn't know, that is going to be the new address for the jam very soon!!! So get a new shirt for a new address!!! =======================PRICES=============================== All garments come in any dark colors (blue, black, red, purple, maroon, navy blue, royal blue, forest green, etc.) and sizes S, M, L and XL. They will be printed with white ink. ====T-SHIRTS==== -----50/50 $14 (add $2 for XXL) -----100% cotton $15 (add $2 for XXL) =======SWEAT SHIRTS======= --All sweat shirts are 100% cotton-- -------Non-hooded------- -----7.5 ounce $18 (add $2 for XXL) -----9.0 ounce $20 (add $2 for XXL) ------Hooded------ -----7.5 ounce $21 (add $2 for XXL) -----9.0 ounce $23 (add $2 for XXL) SHIPPING = Add $3 per item...I know its a lot, but complain to the US postal service!!! INTERNATIONAL ORDERS - Mail me individually...shipping is different for each country but it won't be more than a couple bucks extra. I will throw in a free Majesty sticker w/ every order. They are also sold separately for $1 a piece (no shipping costs). They are the same design as the Majesty symbol on my DT page. ===================WHEN????===================== I MUST HAVE EVERYONE'S MONEY BY THE 3rd of FEBRUARY!!!! THE SHIRTS WILL BE PRINTED ON THE 5th AND PRINTING WILL BEGIN ON THE 7th. ================================================ Be sure to include shipping and send a GOOD check or money order to: Trey Allen 453 Tahitian Terrace Jacksonville Florida 32216 ========"If I started at the top and worked my way down, then there ======== would be no reason to live forever..." -Dream Theater- Trey Allen (T-Stretch) 904-721-1362 Jacksonvile Fl. email_address_removed =========== http://www.ju.edu/UsrWebPages/tallen/home.html ============ ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 27 Jan 1996 17:28:59 -0500 From: email_address_removed To: email_address_removed Subject: WDADU Message-ID: Hey, everyone. since WDADU is being re-released next month, I was wondering if anyone knew of a possible tab book? :) Just a little wishful thinking. later--------------Brian ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 27 Jan 1996 17:29:04 -0500 From: email_address_removed To: email_address_removed Subject: AOL chat Message-ID: WOW! I never knew this until I asked Ken, but there are 111 AOL jammers. I was wondering if any jammers wanted to setup a meet in an AOL chat room. I know its been done before, but I haven't seen a meet posted to the jam. Lets setup a chat, and on that date, go into a chat room. Select "List Rooms" and pick "Private Rooms". When it asks for the name of the room, type "Ytsejam". later--------------Brian ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 27 Jan 1996 17:28:58 -0500 From: email_address_removed To: email_address_removed Subject: ACOS background lyrics Message-ID: > Anyone know what the background lyrics of ACoS as LaBrie says >"Preparing For Her Flight...?" they're the same as the foreground lyrics. later--------------Brian ------------------------------ Date: 27 Jan 96 18:48:34 EST From: Kris Claerhout To: List Dream Theater Subject: Shadow Gallery news Message-ID: ----Forwarded Message(s)---- On 23 Jan 1996, Kris Claerhout wrote: HI Kris! > Gary, > > Some questions... > On track 20 from Carved In Stone, what's that tapping sound? Is this a kind > of code? Some people are trying to figure it out on the Ytsejam (Dream > Theater's list). an official spokesperson steps up and clears his throat, he then announces, "The band has no comment at this time" (he he :) ) Actually its supposed to be knocking, then the door opens and that last piece, sequence 77, or "The Thanksgiving song" enters. It is not officially named, but I wrote it on my new sequencer thanksgiving night 1994. THERE IS some sort of meaning to it all, but I cannot say, that would take the fun away, I doubt anyone would really figure it out, but I am surprised to see the comments. Its pretty fun. > Do you already have a new drummer? -------------- >8 --------------- -------------- >8 --------------- Gary ----End Forwarded Message(s)---- ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 27 Jan 1996 20:04:31 -0800 From: email_address_removed (John Hough) To: email_address_removed Subject: No DT content: KISS News Message-ID: Hey all, I am on the KISS mailing list and if anyone cares, it has been confirmed by a few members of the band and on some east coast radio stations that KISS will be reuniting for a tour this summer. That will be Paul, Gene, Peter, and Ace - makeup and full costumes with the 1977 Alive 2 stage. A real press conference is scheduled within the next month after they get things pegged down. Thought some of you might wanna know that. If you don't, Oh well now you do:) Later!!!!! John Hough email_address_removed Have you seen this little toy? When your down it brings you joy. You escape reality, delve into it's TV screen. "The Game is On" - Helloween ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 28 Jan 1996 01:46:21 +0000 From: "REJEAN TREMBLAY" To: email_address_removed Cc: email_address_removed Subject: DT taking drugs? (question) Message-ID: Is there anybody who heard about Dream Theater's members taking drugs ? I've heard it few days ago and I just can't believe it. Please, let me know if someone heard the same. Pascal Tremblay email_address_removed ********************************************************** Je suis branche chez ClicNet Telecommunications Tel: (418) 686-CLIC Le site Internet de la capitale http://www.qbc.clic.net ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 28 Jan 1996 00:59:28 +0000 (GMT) From: Baron Sengir To: email_address_removed Subject: Alternate E-mail address (again) Message-ID: I listed my alternate E-mail address as email_address_removed I've heard that the mail sometimes bounces back, plus it tends to be slow. I'll be reading mail on this account more often, now. So if you need to E-mail me for anything, use my school address first: email_address_removed If you don't get a response from that one (and you requested a response), then try E-mailing the other address (email_address_removed). Most of you probably won't have a reason to mail me anyway. Paul aka Baron Sengir ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 28 Jan 1996 01:56:40 -0600 (CST) From: email_address_removed To: email_address_removed Subject: whole buncha stuff... Message-ID: Hi all! 'Tis been a while since I've posted anything to the jam (here's hoping Ken doesn't eliminate everything) Anyway, I want to make a statement about the whole Birch Hill tree thingy: I want to take this opportunity to thank Brian (as I'm sure the rest of you will want to - hint hint) for what he's offering to us. I mean many traders would be most likely only trade them for top-notch shows or the ultra-rare, but Brian is willing to share with everyone (at least those who signed up for the tape-tree in time) - he's definitely a cool 'Jammer for offering these shows. At any rate, if anyone looks down on this (perhaps a band member reading this or someone else against boots) I hope you'll understand that the Dec shows were historic for us 'Jammers and it's nice to have a memento (especially for those of us who couldn't attend). Next up - my review of When Dream and Today Unite: overall, I give this release an 8.5 on a 10 scale (same for Subcon - Acoustic Dreams gets a 10+). Before I go any further, hats off to Mike for another fine release! Anyway, first off the cover is awesome! Love the ray-tracing artwork! Whoever did the cover (sorry don't have the jacket handy) nice job and do another cover!! Okey dokey now for the tunes themselves (keep in mind that all tracks are SB recording except LFaGA and TOWHTSTS)...AFiL sounds real good. Status Seeker sounds good, however it's still slow just as it is on Dream Out Loud; nonetheless, I love the intro (especially the keyboards). Ytsejam sounds primo, excellent recording; oddly, while Mike B lists the source as late in the I&W tour, the drum solo suggests an early I&W show - I dunno maybe its just me... Killing Hand sounds good though unfortunately most of "Another Hand" is missing - ah well at least its on LatM. LFaGA - finally I get to hear the live version!! While it is an audience recording, it's still very listenable and it's cool cuz it's not the same note-for-note version that appears on WDADU. Mission Impossible/Afterlife sounds good, but I do notice the hiss - otherwise great performance. TOWHTSTS - okay, here's the only real disappointment (sorry Mike) the sound quality is fairly poor-its distorted and not half as good sounding as the recording from A Kick Into a Dream - I guess I maybe a little biased as well, cuz this is my favorite track on WDADU. OaMoT/March of the Tyrant - probably my favorite on this disc cuz of March of the Tyrant (man is it cool! I can only hope they'll resurrect this and other old stuff on future tours - HINT HINT!! :) ) Unlike Lost in the Sky, this track is a soundboard recording all the way through. TLF/Barfbag - great recording of the song - gotta love the instrumental (which I believe is really called Barfbag - someone correct me if I'm wrong). Well at over 71 mins long, I'm very pleased, though it's not a perfect release. Nonetheless, I recommend getting it! And I want to know what each of the guys (in DT, that is) thinks of Alex Lifeson's Victor project - being that all of them are Rushheads (like me) I'm very curious to find out their impressions, so for those of you who know them personally please ask them what they think. Airdance - if you can, ask Kevin as well since some of the music is somewhat in the vein of what Kevin's been doing. Thanx in advance. Also, I posted this to alt.music.dt without any response so far, so I'll ask here: I have the 86 Demos, Instrumental, Instrumental II, Subcon and the vocal audition tapes and a copy of Charlie singing "A Vision" - what other pre-I&W demos are out there? If I remember correctly, Freewill and Gates of Babylon are listed as being demoed in the FAQ - is this true? And I want to send be-lated sympathy to the Portnoy family for their loss. Scott Hansen email_address_removed ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 28 Jan 1996 02:58:52 -0700 (MST) From: "Alan J. Mallery" To: Dream Theater List Subject: FS: Cygnus Message-ID: I have a copy of Rush Cygnus for sale, $20 including postage. Email me if interested. Thanks, Alan =================================================================== Alan Mallery/aka: email_address_removed2: email_address_removed =================================================================== Now Playing: 'Hooked on Cage' - Conducted by Lewis Clark /\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/ ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 28 Jan 1996 17:24:01 +0300 From: email_address_removed.cy (BB Theo) To: email_address_removed Subject: my first gig(it sucked) Message-ID: Hi jammers.I've just returned from my first gig of over 100 people and I feel shit.The amp burnt down in the middle of my set and the other guitarist paniced not being able to hear me and so he destroyed everything for the others too.I've been practicing for the last two years for gigs like these and when I went there(with a lot of self-confidence I must add)everything kept failing:the snare drum,the amp,even my guitar!Why bother.I feel like never picking up again my beloved instrument.Help me guys. ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 28 Jan 1996 11:14:42 -0500 (EST) From: "Jill M. Lentchner" To: email_address_removed Subject: Jersey roadie... Message-ID: Hi everyone! I just needed to give a quick note about the Jersey show. Actually, make that two quick notes! Eddie mentioned a friend who was a roadie. There was one roadie in particular out with everyone who was bragging about everything under the sun. I know many of the Jammers there met him. He was of medium height with long dirty blond hair. Eddie, if this is your friend, all that he told you is bullshit. He was an asshole who was just trying to get females and doing anything he possibly could to do that. Trust me, he told us ALL about his exploits and past experience at concerts with various bands and their female followers as well as the bands own girlfriends. I am sorry if this isn't your friend (and if it is!) but I wanted to forewarn everyone that this might not be true. He gossiped about everyone under the sun and there was no way in hell he was right. He was just slimy. I guess guys who tell me I can sleep with them if I help out after the show while my boyfriend is standing right there just lose a bit of credibility and respect! Again, I apologize if this isn't your friend but all that he says can't be taken for truth if it is. One more quick thing, I know I have mentioned this before. I, too, am searching for bootlegs (video and recordings) from any of the Holiday shows, preferably the Birch Hill. Anyone can help and isn't going to post please email me privately. Thanks! Love Everyone! Jill (email_address_removed) ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 28 Jan 96 11:42:04 EST From: Pat Sullivan To: email_address_removed Subject: DT and Dave Message-ID: >The e-mail address of the lateshow with David Letterman is: >email_address_removed > >I don't think we should hook DT up with Dave since he is not funny at all. Anyone else see this as a prelude to a "Late Night Wars" thread? Thank goodness this list is *moderated*. :) Another possible problem I see with getting DT on any late night show: By all accouts, the band are perfectionists. How do you think they would like having to do a whole setup and warm-up, then only get to play one song (probably highly edited to fit them in)? That's got to be rough on *any* band (unless you're Green Day or something, where a good performance and a bad one sound pretty much the same. :)) If we want them on there, we should also want them to be able to play a song that is at least somewhat representative of the band. How would you like them to get on and play WFS, and have the non-DT-fan audience think that's all they play? But if they play ACOS, they'd have to pause for commercial breaks in the middle, and Dave would have to lose the monologue AND the Top Ten List. :) Something to think about, anyway. email_address_removed Sullivan________________ "You could chop off a man's head three times a day for twenty years, and he'd grow used to it, and cry like a baby if you stopped." __________________________________Robert Sheckley_-_"Immortality, Inc."_____ ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 28 Jan 1996 10:42:30 -0500 From: email_address_removed.mx To: email_address_removed Subject: Rock Discipline Video Message-ID: Hello Jammers ! I'm a guitar player and I am considering buying Petrucci's Rock Discipline Video but I do not know what to expect from it. I would appreciate it a lot if anybody could reply me personally about the contents of this video and what kind of techniques or styles does Petrucci explain. Also if anybody has video of a Petrucci clinic please tell me how I can get a copy of one. See ya later. Marcelo Martinelli Monterrey , Mexico P.S. Are there any other Mexican Ytsejammers ? Reply --------------------------Seize The Day------------------------------ ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 28 Jan 1996 09:18:50 -0800 From: Chris Oates To: email_address_removed Subject: Shadow Gallery Track 20 Message-ID: This is just a little reiteration to Pat Daugherty and anyone who finds the door-knocking on track 20 of the SG album annoying: First off, it isn't part of GhostShip. If you add up the times of the 7 parts (tracks 13-19) they total the 21 minutes of Ghostship. Track 20 is another 8 minutes or so, so it is a seperate song. And, it therefore also qualifies as a "secret track" -- so the knocking s a bit forgivable, since bands often do weird things on secret tracks like starting them at track 99 and such. On the other hand, (not the killing hand) I do wish that they had put the silence and the knocking on track 20 and the music on track 21, so I could skip the knocking. DTC (sort of) Whenever I wear my "eye" Awake shirt, I get lots of people staring at it. Quite a few total stragers will comment on it as well. Also, at this place called "The Hologram Shop" in Ghiradelli Square in San Francisco, they have these watches with holographs on them, one of which is an eye. I got it, since it reminds me of the shirt (and the Lie single cover of course) I call it my Dream Theater watch. :) If only it had roman numerals instead of arabic... ~Chris [sig trimmed] __ /\ __ __\/__\/__ Bafu Saves... ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 28 Jan 1996 10:27:03 -0800 From: email_address_removed (Paul Goracke) To: email_address_removed Subject: WDATU! Message-ID: DT cds seem to come to me in waves; Friday, I received the 'Lie' single, and Saturday, WDATU came! 'Lie' is probably old hat to most of you, but I'm very excited to finally have my copy. So why hasn't anybody else mentioned their WDATU? I'd figure since mine is #137, plenty of others have gotten their copy. I've only had the time to listen to it once (my schedule has been insane lately), but I'm impressed. I'm actually afraid if I listen to it too much, I'll have a hard time listening to the original (and I _like_ WDADU!) The artwork is very cool, and a *picture* disc! Moving up in the world! ;^) pg ----------------------------+---------------------------------- Paul Goracke | "To do is to be" - Aristotle email_address_removed | "To be is to do" - Plato | "Do be do be do" - Sinatra ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 28 Jan 1996 14:16:13 -0500 From: email_address_removed (Marc Respass) To: email_address_removed Subject: Mike Bahr rules (or Just got WDATU) Message-ID: For some reason the mail came real early today (Saturday) and I got When Dream and Today Unite #153 with it :D. I have Subconscious and Cygnus from Mr. Bahr and I think WDATU is his best effort yet. The cover art/insert is excellent. Very good quality. The recording is also excellent. I'm not a big bootleg guy but the sound quality is great! I've been listening to When Dream and DAY Unite a lot so it's a little wierd to hear LaBrie but it's great. Plus some bonus tracks :). I won't go into it for those of you who haven't received yours. I can sum it up by saying that I don't think anyone will be disappointed. Thanks Mike :). --------------- > > Maybe Derek was feeding ya'll a line and the real reason > is that he doesn't know the tunes :). > > NOT KNOWING THE TUNES IS NO FUCKING GUARANTEE!! :) Man. I can't believe how mad some people can get. Although I can agree that it's not a guarantee :) --Marc R ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 29 Jan 1996 04:51:07 -0500 From: email_address_removed To: email_address_removed Subject: ATTN: Bay Area Galactic Cowboys Fans Message-ID: Hello jammers, I went to a show at The Edge in Palo Alto sunday night, and there was a sign up for a Galactic Cowboys show on Wed. April 10. Price is $8 in advance and is an all ages show. I must have been one of the first people to get a ticket because when I first asked to buy one, the person said they weren't on sale. I hope that as many Bay Area jammers as possible can get to the show since these guys seem to be getting ZERO support from their label. They, like DT, deserve much more attention then they get. I know the show is still a ways off. But I wanted to send it ASAP and hope it gets on one of the jams before the show actually happens. DT content: I can't wait to get the audio of the Birch Hill show, since I didn't get a chance to go to any of the shows. Dr. Music ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 28 Jan 1996 22:06:32 +0100 From: email_address_removed.it (Alternate Reality) To: email_address_removed Subject: DREAM THEATER TOURING EUROPE??? Message-ID: Hello Jammers!!! I am an hardcore Italian DT fan and I have some hard doubts that I hope you can clear. Well, here is the list: 1) Are DT actually on tour???? I thought they were recording the new album in these days but some people told me that they are touring Europe now. 2) If 1) is true: does anybody knows the *EXACT* date list and specially : Do you know if DT will be in Italy in February? Someone told me that they will play three gigs in Italy: February 13,14,15 in Turin,Rome and Milan. I asked you these things cos any italian promoter and magazine doesn't know anything about them, and I told to myself: between all the jammers surely there MUST be someone who knows that stuff!! Please answer my questions on the Ytsejam or writing me, my E-Mail is: email_address_removed.it Bye and Keep on Rocking!!! ------------------------------ End of YTSEJAM Digest 1244 **************************