YTSEJAM Digest 1242 Today's Topics: 1) If you mailed me between 1/27-1/29 by "Trey (T-Stretch) Allen" 2) A review of ACOS you should see... by Glenn Waterfield 3) tree update (it's closed now!!!) by Brian Cox 4) UK CDrom un-releases by email_address_removed 5) John Petrucci Video From NAMM Show by DAVID E WRUCK 6) Ben and Lie (Re: YTSEJAM digest 1236) by email_address_removed.se (MIKA NUMMINEN) 7) For those in Madison, WI. by email_address_removed (Ryan "Hercules" Good) 8) Prog bands in Eastern Europe by Kozari Frida 9) cds for sale by email_address_removed 10) Jason Becker by "Richard Karsmakers" 11) Headbangers Ball by email_address_removed.co.uk 12) Letterman by email_address_removed 13) Re: The Mirror by email_address_removed (Marc Respass) 14) Shadow Gallery tapping by email_address_removed (Jose Vaquera) 15) Eve!@ by Syrinx ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Tue, 30 Jan 96 17:41:10 -0500 From: "Trey (T-Stretch) Allen" To: ytsejam@arastar.com Subject: If you mailed me between 1/27-1/29 Message-ID: EVERYONE WHO MAILED ME BETWEEN 1/27-1/29 AND DIDN'T GET A RESPONSE, PLEASE MAIL ME AGAIN!!!!! I LOST A TON OF MESSAGES!!!! Somehow, my server deleted them or something and I had at least like 60 so if I didn't reply to your message I didn't read it. Please send it again!!!! ========"If I started at the top and worked my way down, then there ======== would be no reason to live forever..." -Dream Theater- Trey Allen (T-Stretch) 904-721-1362 Jacksonvile Fl. email_address_removed =========== http://www.ju.edu/UsrWebPages/tallen/home.html ============ ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 24 Jan 1996 22:56:08 -0600 (CST) From: Glenn Waterfield To: email_address_removed Subject: A review of ACOS you should see... Message-ID: Hey all! Even though I'm not on the list (for now) anymore, I thought you should see this. This appeared in yeterday's University of Illinois at Chicago's student newspaper. Timely, eh? "A Change of Seasons" Dream Theatre <---- (!!!) Dream Theatre is a five-piece band with a definite penchant for intricately played, complexly-arranged heavy metal. "A Change of Seasons" compiles the twenty-three minute long title track (a long-time Dream Theatre concert staple) and a number of carefully chosen covers of the band's favorite classic rock songs. Throughout the album, Dream Theatre performs with the precision of skilled surgeons. Each of the title tracks's seven different parts are played with impeccable technique and the band does a nearly flawless recreation of Elton John's "Funeral for a Friend/Love Lies Bleeding." Ultimately, however, this precision leaves little room for any real excitement or spontaneity to shine through. The band compromises emotion for musicianship and consequently robs its songs of their ability to move the listener on a personal level. Listening to "A Change of Seasons" is the musical equivalent of eating a rice cake -- it leaves you with nothing but a bland aftertaste when it's over. Two Stars --Phil Mole This from the man that gave "Hempilation" (the reefer benefit album) three stars on the very same page. I agree with him partially about the covers. I love them, but they are rather straighforward (esp. James). But a ricecake? I don't think so. By the way, there is a listing of a Phillip Mole at UIC under: email_address_removed How about that? :) Toodles! Glenn P.S. I just decided to resubscribe!! (I had to change accounts recently) [sig trimmed] ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ L. Glenn Waterfield "Listen brain; I don't like you and you don't Argonne National Labs -- Homer J. Simpson email_address_removed email_address_removed ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 25 Jan 1996 00:19:08 -0600 (CST) From: Brian Cox To: email_address_removed Cc: email_address_removed Subject: tree update (it's closed now!!!) Message-ID: hi everyone... i will be sending out the tree strcture probably tomorrow. i have contacted the DAT branches, and will be sending them the DAT tapes soon. after that the taping from DAT>Analog and Analog>analog will start. I have decided to provide DATs that already have fadeins and fadeouts at the appropriate points to make it easier on the DAT>analog tapers and also so everyone will have a consisent tape. i will also be sending both DAT and analog printed j-cards that the branches can copy and send along if they want. please use the ones i send out instead of a custom one so everyone gets the same thing. i will also put a postcript file of the j-cards on my web page in the next couple of days. i plan a major overhaul of the web page this weekend, so all of you that have been looking there for the tree, sorry it is so lame right now :) the correct url is this: http://www.metronet.com/~lerxst/ i will probably put the tree structure at this: http://www.metronet.com/~lerxst/music/tapes/tree.html if it isnt at that direct path, it will be somewhere under the tape page. anyway, if you need to give me a different email address for you or anything, email me. if not, dont bother me until after i post the tree structure. :) this has been alot more work that i thought it would be. :) later... [sig trimmed] <><><><><><><><><> Brian V. Cox (email_address_removed) <><><><><><><><><> <>Rush|Dream Theater|Queensryche|King's X|Echolyn|King Crimson|Voivod><> <><><><><><><><><>DAT Taper/Trader - Email me for list<><><><><><><><><> <><><><><><><><><>< http://www.metronet.com/~lerxst/ ><><><><><><><><><> ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 25 Jan 1996 05:32:13 EST From: email_address_removed To: email_address_removed Subject: UK CDrom un-releases Message-ID: --- Saapunut 03.MAPE 90-4694432 25-01-96 12.30 -> IBMMAIL.INTERNET IBM IMX Hi all! This posting concerns the UK jammers, If you're not one, you can skip this. I read from the Metal Hammer (Jan.1996) that Queensryche's CD-ROM will not be released in the UK. The same goes for three other similar products, one being Pearl Jam and the other two I cant remember at the moment. Now ain't that a drag.... t: Mape ***************************************************************** * I am the way, I am the light, I am the dark inside the night. * * - Savatage: Believe- * ***************************************************************** ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 25 Jan 1996 04:42:06 -0700 (MST) From: DAVID E WRUCK To: email_address_removed Subject: John Petrucci Video From NAMM Show Message-ID: Okay, my turn to offer a new goodie to the Jammers. As some of you know the Namm show was held this weekend in LA. John was there at the Lexicon setup promoting their gear (mainly the PCM-80) and did a mini-clinic kinda thing to show how stuff works and the bass player in my band got it all on video - front row. We're willing to make copies for people for a small price, somewhere between $5 and $10 to cover cost of tape, S/H, and a little to help cover the costs of the plane ticket and event ticket. I'll get an exact price when I find out how much S/H is and which VHS tape is prefered ( I like TDK HiFi). This is not in stereo since it was shot with a portable camera but is pretty damn good quality - so good you can see almost every movement of his fingers and the time on his watch. He does a couple mini jams to show the capabilities of the Lexicon EFX processor and plays to a tape of some stuff he recorded as well as a tape of Erotomania. The way the camera was directed and the proximity to John pretty much cut out the background tapes but every note he plays is crystal clear - especially during the maniacal runs at the end of Erotomania - good for guitarists trying to figure it out. As an added bonus he's wearing our (or should I say Jason/Trey/shirtmaker/whoever) *YTSE JAM* shirt!!!!!!!! The cameraman (my bass player Rich) also got in one comment about Wanted:D or A in to which John responded "that's not me!!!" If no ones interested, it won't hurt my feelings but it's kinda neat to have around (especially for trades:)). Like I said, the quality is real good - only one bad thing: when his dynamics crescendoed or heavy distortion kicked in, a little bit of distortion in the mic/TV speakers is noticeable but doesn't cover anything up. It's 4:30 in the morning so excuse any of my typos and please e-mail me with any questions or if you'd like to get a copy. Dave ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 25 Jan 1996 13:45:02 +0100 From: email_address_removed.se (MIKA NUMMINEN) To: email_address_removed Subject: Ben and Lie (Re: YTSEJAM digest 1236) Message-ID: Ben Laussade said (about Lie): > I don't mean to brag, but that didn't really phase me. I figured >[deleted--kbibb] That always messes 'em up. I made a point to tell >them not to change at all...but I think that is the way a lot of us hears DTs music (Bens way of hearing it...), ie: the polyrythms, I think that if you took all that polyrythmical stuff out of there they would sound like the "normal" progressive rock group (okay, they have the melodies, but,...). Imagine The Mirror or Ltl without the polyrythmic stuff, they would really loose the feel (the songs), and the mood would be quite different, imagine MP playing along with the guitar straight 4/4 instead of changing the drumpattern... This does not limit itself to MPs playing, obviously there are parts played by the other guys as well, for an example in Ltl (actually all over I&W) that impose a different time signature.... (okay correct my english musical terms if they aren't correct, I know my music in swedish terms....:-)) Okay, don't take this the wrong way, you guys who don't consider yourselves as musicians, this is NOT a way of showing off. 8-0 (WOW!) Mika The swedish viking (Yes, all vikings weren't norwegians...) PS. Northern european jammers, I will be receiving a copy of the 12/29/95 show, just in case you wanted a copy, mail me..... ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 25 Jan 1996 08:36:40 -0600 From: email_address_removed (Ryan "Hercules" Good) To: email_address_removed Subject: For those in Madison, WI. Message-ID: Greetings and new books to all in Madison, or Wisconsin in general. I'm here at UW-Madison, and am probably the only Dream Theater fan on campus. I'm writing this so other DT fans will post or privately-e-mail me to prove me wrong. Prog Rock is not very popular up here, and I want to find a few other people to chat with....or, so I know that there are a few fans of great music in the upper-mid west. L.P.: David Bowie "Buddah of Suburbia" N.P.: Dream Theater "Metropolis" ___________ Ryan T. Good email_address_removed 1-608-264-2268 Madison Student Radio - Music Stapher ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 25 Jan 1996 15:39:31 +0100 (MET) From: Kozari Frida To: Ytsejam Subject: Prog bands in Eastern Europe Message-ID: Hello! First of all I'd like to tell you that I'm new on this list, so I may ask silly questions. Excuse me. If the questions I ask have already been discussed on the list, just guide me to a FAQ or a previous digest, as I didn't have time yet to read them all. So, does anyone know whether DT or any of the progressive bands are going to play in Eastern Europe, especially in Hungary in the near (or far) future? Of course I'm checking the local media regularly, but I could start gathering some money for the tickets, if I knew it earlier. I'm interested in all types of progressive bands, not only the big and famous ones. Anyway these bands seem to be neglecting our area though there are quite a few fans out here. I can hardly remember any of them playing in our country. Queensryche played here in 1991 as the opening band of the Monsters Of Rock festival (before Motley Crue, Metallica and AC/DC). But they hardly played 45 minutes, the sound was far from perfect and I couldn't arrive in time, so I only heard two or three song. Shortly, it was a disappointing experience. The nearest location DT played live was in Vienna, but I couldn't go and see them because I don't have much opportunity to travel abroad. I know this is a small country, so we might not fill a huge stadium, but certainly work it out with a smaller one. I'm looking forward to seeing them here. But until they realize we're also the part of the civilized world I must be satisfied with the Hungarian progressive bands. There are quite a few of them and they're not bad at all. Here's another essay about what aspects of DT's music I like. Well, I read about DT in the Hungarian edition of the Metal Hammer Magazine around the time their first album "When Dream And Day Unite" came out. (WDADU was the album of the month in the August 1989 edition of Metal Hammer beating Black Sabbath, Blue Murder and Annihilator.) But I wasn't interested in them as I was into other kinds of music at that time. I didn't even hear the album or any of the songs. The first DT song I've heard was "Take The Time" from the "Images And Words" album. I've seen the video in Headbanger's Ball and it just caught my attention. Then they reached the keyboard solo (-- Kevin Moore rules), and I was simply washed away. It's still my favourite DT song and best keyboard solo I've ever heard. I think somebody else also mentioned the keyboard work. That's my favourite too. It cooperates perfectly with the heavier aspects of their music brought in by the other instruments. And the other thing is that I listen to a wide range of music, not only progressive, and I like the pieces from different styles and trends mixed in their eclectic songs. Since then I keep gathering DT material and I'd like to see them live, I hope I will soon be able to. Any Jammers from Hungary or the Eastern European area? Or anyone around the world who feels him/herself to be in connection with Hungary or Hungarians? Pleez, mail me. Also in Hungarian if you speak. I've just seen Jeremy Lakatos' name in digest 1232. Hello! You must or your ancestors must have been Hungarians. I've found another one named Mantia Andras from Romania. Hello to you too! Another question: I've read on the Jam about the new Ytsejam T-shirt release. I'd like to have one, but it seems I've run out of time to order it. I'd like to ask how often it is available. I could start gathering the money in time, if I knew. Greetings [sig trimmed] ------------------------------------------------------ Kozari Frida Student of Computer Programming and Mathematics Eotvos Lorand University, Faculty Of Science, Budapest My surname is Kozari, my "first" name is Frida. PGP public key available by personal e-mail. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 25 Jan 1996 03:39:56 -0500 From: email_address_removed To: email_address_removed Cc: email_address_removed Subject: cds for sale Message-ID: in the desire to get rid of a lot of cd's i don't even listen to anymore (or have extras of), i have a bunch of cd's for sale. nothing special, really. some yes, a fw cd, this is for the cd junkies or anyone else who might like what's in store. i am not looking at making much $$; hell, i might even be happy with something in the area of 5 or 6 bucks. any interest souls email me, and we talk. thank you. david kobayashi ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 25 Jan 1996 17:12:54 -0600 (CST) From: "Richard Karsmakers" To: email_address_removed Subject: Jason Becker Message-ID: This is the best news I've heard in years. Jason Becker still lives, and with that my hopes for his getting better live, too. It might be naive, but it's all I got. I'm going to order the "Perspective" CD right away (well, as soon as I have some dollars, which I have coming to me soon!). Cheers! [sig trimmed] /=-ooo-=-=ooo=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=\ | Richard Karsmakers email_address_removed.nl | \=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=/ ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 25 Jan 1996 18:30:31 +0000 From: email_address_removed.co.uk To: email_address_removed Subject: Headbangers Ball Message-ID: <"4617*/I=P/S=McLoughlin/OU=bra0108/O=icl/PRMD=icl/ADMD=gold 400/C=GB/"@MHS> >Ronnie Scotts (via MTV). Patricia?? One would think that >someone would have recorded Headbangers Ball that night. Yes I did. I have an edited version of the show. There was very little live DT (Munich), with very little Ronnie Scotts, about 5 minutes of each. There WAS about a half hour of band interviews. I have sent audios of this to US jammers P ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 25 Jan 1996 15:03:49 -0500 From: email_address_removed To: email_address_removed Subject: Letterman Message-ID: OK-I know this is Ben's operation, but please send snail mail if you can. Its far more effective than e-mail. For example, if they see DT as a subjrct, they can just skip past it. Yopu never know whats in an envelope. I'm sending smail, and I hope you will too.\ later--------------Brian ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 25 Jan 1996 15:13:31 -0500 From: email_address_removed (Marc Respass) To: email_address_removed Subject: Re: The Mirror Message-ID: >> Marc Respass said: >> I think The Mirror has the most obviously "wierd" thing >> happening but it doesn't bother you unless you decide to >> pay attention to it. Then BenJammin "Just got the TSM single" Laussade said: > I don't mean to brag, but that didn't really phase > me. I figured out what was going on right after it > happened. I guess I was kind of ready for it. [ snip ] Well, Ben. You rule. I remember finally figuring out what was going on and it was a great day for me :). That part is just an excellent example of Dream Theater's writing ability. It just sounds so great and grooves but it really messes with a lot of people. --Marc R ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 25 Jan 1996 14:14:08 -0600 (CST) From: email_address_removed (Jose Vaquera) To: email_address_removed Subject: Shadow Gallery tapping Message-ID: In 'jam 1233, wrote about tapping in a Shadow Gallery song being some kind of code. I thought the same about the 1st verse music on UAGM. I thought since Rush was an influence it might be a YYZ morse code type of riff. So I pulled out a Morse Code chart and sure enough I got an M and an A right off the bat. I started to think I was going to decode it as MAJESTY. That would have been cool, but alas, after the MA it totally disentigrated into gibberish. Oh well, it was exciting at the start. Someone get an address for the Conan O'Brien show, and we'll hit them both about booking DT. ================================================================== "Frankly, I don't want to be a part of a progressive rock scene- I want to be part of a Dream Theater scene." - John Petrucci email_address_removed "don't ask me, I just work here." ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 25 Jan 1996 18:11:20 -0500 (EST) From: Syrinx To: email_address_removed Subject: Eve!@ Message-ID: Wow. I thought i had to post this. I just got a copy of "Milan 1993" (recorded 11/15/93), and it's awsome. Anyway, I know supposidly there's only been one "recorded" version of _EVE_ (and it's on Subsconscious (sp)), but i've found another one. It's just labeled on the disc as "Instrumental", but it's Eve, in full form. It's a great disc. They also do... Disc One: Metropolis / Mission: Impossible - Afterlife / Under A Glass Moon / Wait For Sleep - Surrounded / Ytse Jam/Drum Solo / Take The Time Disc Two: To Live Forever / Another Day / Only A Matter Of Time / Pull Me Under / Eve / Learing To Live if you can pick this up, it's great, and worth whatever you pay for it. Trust me on this. Syrinx p.s. I've spoken to Hairball this week, and he gives his regards to all of you. If you want me to relay any messages to him, just E-mail me, and i'll do what i can. ------------------------------ End of YTSEJAM Digest 1242 **************************