YTSEJAM Digest 1232 Today's Topics: 1) Welcome Back by email_address_removed (Michael Bradley) 2) Re: Bombay Vidaloo by Sean T Gill 3) New WWW Page by Steven Jacobsen 4) Keybd Stuff by Mr Who? 5) Re: ACOS Live - The "Outro" by Andrew Keegan 6) Special DT gift? (Re: YTSEJAM digest 1229) by email_address_removed (Rahiel Elaine Housey) 7) Mustaine by email_address_removed 8) Portnoy Interview, Part 3 (RAISE THE KNIFE) by BIORDI Bruno 9) Re: ACOS Live - The "Outro" by Damon M. Fibraio 10) Effects Processor by email_address_removed (Ben Flynn) 11) I'm back & stuff/Re: Synthesizers/Keyboards! by Bigman 12) People by email_address_removed (George Szumski) 13) Meteoric Replies by Steve Borzilleri ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Wed, 17 Jan 1996 14:19:13 -0500 From: email_address_removed (Michael Bradley) To: email_address_removed Subject: Welcome Back Message-ID: Hey guys! Just wanted to let you all know that I finally have moved back into school and am back on the net. I have some very brief comments to make regarding the December shows... First, I must agree with Mike Bahr(thanks for Cygnus, it kicks) when he said that the best way to act around DT is basically by not acting at all--be yourself. The first night in New London, my friends and I were the first in line and were the only ones outside the El 'n Gee to see the band come in. Instead of bombarding them with questions etc., we just said hello to each member as the entered the club. After the show, Derek Sherinian came out into the bar area and we had a very nice conversation. None of us asked for autographs. Finally, when the band came out after the show, we asked for Derek's autograph and he cordially obliged. In general, I preface "Could you sign this?" with "Sorry to bug you." We as fans can never tell what kind of mood a band is in, so it's best to tread lightly. Well, the same thing happened in Long Island. We got there early and talked to Derek after the show. By this point, most of the band recognized us. The last night, in New London, my friend and I gave Mike Portnoy a bottle of Jagermeister. We also gave John Petrucci twizzlers and gave the whole band a card thanking them for 4 great shows. After, they thanked us and seemed genuinely grateful for the gesture. My point here is the following: I saw a lot of people yelling at the band members and being very annoying in their methods of geting their attention. Some guys were yelling at Derek because he wouldn't come out and sign autographs BEFORE the show. The way to REALLY get to know a band is to resist the urge to always ask for autographs in favor of just TALKING to them. Ask how their drive was, ask about the setlist, etc. Many people who claimed to be huge DT fans didn't give a shit after they got the band's autograph. These guys aren't printing presses, they're people. Let's all remember that. THANK YOU DEREK SHERINIAN! He definately won the prize for friendliest band member this tour. Also, it was great to see all the YTSEJAMMERS at the YTSECON II and at the shows. One last thing. Does ANYONE have a tape of Space Dye Vest from the Malibu soundcheck? THEY WERE PLAYING IT!!! Later all! -Mike Bradley ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 17 Jan 1996 13:56:45 -0600 (CST) From: Sean T Gill To: email_address_removed Subject: Re: Bombay Vidaloo Message-ID: The one on Guitar's Practicing Musicians is the same as LatM. That's the only recording of it that I know about. TTFN-Sean ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 17 Jan 1996 14:54:01 -0600 From: Steven Jacobsen To: email_address_removed Subject: New WWW Page Message-ID: Have just been allocated space for my new web page and am looking for any DT/QR gifs/jpeg/bmp I can use in the design of my page. Would appreciate any information that any of you out there can provide. Please e-mail personally at email_address_removed so as not to clog of the jam. Hate to see all of Ken's good work go to waste! :) Steve ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 17 Jan 1996 22:05:14 +0000 (GMT) From: Mr Who? To: email_address_removed Subject: Keybd Stuff Message-ID: Does anyone know of any DT keyboard music around? Thanks Muchly Jimbo ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 17 Jan 1996 17:07:25 -0500 (EST) From: Andrew Keegan To: email_address_removed Cc: Multiple recipients of list Subject: Re: ACOS Live - The "Outro" Message-ID: On Wed, 17 Jan 1996, mmetzger wrote: > ACOS, at least live, really needs a loud climax [deleted] At the summer US shows, they didn't play the outro. I agree that it sounds better live without the outro. Did they play the outro at the European summer shows? Andy ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 17 Jan 1996 17:49:47 -0500 From: email_address_removed (Rahiel Elaine Housey) To: email_address_removed Subject: Special DT gift? (Re: YTSEJAM digest 1229) Message-ID: Dear YtseJammers Could anyone point me in the direction of a special DT recording to give as a special Valentine's Day gift?? Perhaps a "hard-to-find recording" ? My condolances to Mike Portnoy. I am thinking of you, if you can see this! email_address_removed Ray ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 17 Jan 1996 19:02:25 -0500 From: email_address_removed To: email_address_removed Subject: Mustaine Message-ID: I told Mustane about whats being said on Ytsejam and asked him what he thought of DT this was my response: >Should it not matter what you think more than what I think? And I cannot >deny their talent. This should be the end of this debate. > >Mustaine > >I will be ending this March 2nd. >After that you can reach me through the fan club. [deleted] >Join the CyberArmy..Megadeth's fanclub >CyberArmy >PO Box 883488 >San Francisco, Cal.91488 >email_address_removed He seems kinda upset over the whole thing, so let this be the end of the argument, OK? later--------------Brian ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 18 Jan 1996 01:22:27 +0100 (MET) From: BIORDI Bruno To: email_address_removed Subject: Portnoy Interview, Part 3 (RAISE THE KNIFE) Message-ID: Hi DT fans,=20 Here is the final part of the Mike PORTNOY's interview, Written in HARD ROCK Magazine (January 96 Issue). H.R. : Kevin Moore left Dream Theater to do easier music. Do you understand his choice and do you yield to the temptation for making easier songs, like him ? M.P. : We always liked that kind of music, but Kevin was ONLY intesting by very basic music. We also like that kind of easy songs, and some of our songs are easy but we like harder stuffs. Fans of NIRVANA will find us definitely too technical, but I think there are a lot of kids who are looking for something more. It's that kind of public we want to convince. =20 H.R. : What prominence do you give to the lyrics? M.P. : I confess to you that lyrics seems to be for me the last priority. For me, the essential is the music. After, I give a lot of importance to the technique. Then comes the lyrics. Of course, the 3 parts are indispensable ! If the melody sounds great,but the lyrics suck, all the song is fake ! H.R. : What are your favorites groups ? M.P. : RUSH and YES. RUSH is THE group ! As a teenager, they already were my favorites ones. They are extraordinary musicians, who are able to play very complex parts with the 'heavy' touch. I also like groups like QUEENSR=FFCHE and MARILLION. H.R. : In the category 'Future Big Groups' ? M.P. : Unhesitatingly FATES WARNING -Unfortunately not considered at their just values-. There are like us, in their music way. I always think FW must be liked by our fans. There are also the group ECHOLYN, who opened for us. That's like GENESIS but adapted to the nineties. Another group called SPOCKS BEARD -a formation who's working with our ex manager- and unfortunatey without any contracts. It sounds like a mixing between YES and KANSAS. Finally, there are groups from Magna Carta : SHADOW GALLERY and ENCHANT. They make great job ! H.R. : These last groups sound like Dream Theater, no ? M.P. : Yes, I agree with you because many groups signed on Magna Carta sounds like us, and I can't tell you if it's good or bad (laugh). It's fun because Magna Carta was contacting me for the tribute to RUSH. And I'll make the drum parts with Billy Sheehan on bass guitar. That will be great ! H.R. : For you, QUEEN & IRON MAIDEN can be called 'progressive groups' ? M.P. : Absolutely ! IRON MAIDEN isn't so progressive than there are ten years ago, with their songs of ten minutes, including long instrumental parts. Queen was progressive, because it's was inventor : Not necessary by the technique, but by the original sound. Don't forget DEEP PURPLE, who mixed metal and classic. H.R. : About DEEP PURPLE, why choosing a title from 1984, and not a much traditional one ? M.P. : A the start, we have chosen to play "Child In Time" and we worked on it. The day before the gig, we were invited for a radio interview at the BBC. That programme was animated by Bruce Dickinson. It was cool, and we decided to record a version of "Perfect Strangers" with him. It sounded so great then we decided to play it at the show. H.R. : Can you recommend to our readers -much metal than progressive- some CDs? M.P. : "Awake" from DT, "Images & Words" from DT, "A Change Of Seasons" from DT... (laugh). No, seriously, my selection is : "Permanent Waves" & "Hemispheres" from RUSH, "Close To The Edge" & "Fragile" from YES, "Danger Money" from U.K., "Misplaced Childhood" from MARILLION, and "Lamb Lies Down On Broadway" from GENESIS! Oops, I forget "Two For The Show" from KANSAS! H.R. : Is the song "A Change Of Seasons" most representative of DT? M.P. : I think we can say that, because it includes a lot of different parts. But if I play only one song for a man who's discovering DT, I play "Take The Time" ! It's not so long but it's also complete than ACOS. But if he can support a 22 minutes track, ACOS is a good introduction to the DT style, yes ! H.R. : What about the new album ? M.P. : We just start to work on it and we will compose while 3 or 4 month again. We have just finished one track, called "Raise The Knife" and I've just finished to write the lyrics. It's a typical DT song, with a longer of 12 minutes. I think the new album will be in the same way that older ones. I think it will be the best DT album because we are very motivate ! And Derek SHERINIAN brings a lot of fresh air to DT. H.R. : Soon in France ? M.P. : I think the new album will be ready for the next summer, but if the tour doesn't start by Europe, don't expect to see us before 1997. Interview by Philippe LAGEAT, for HARD ROCK MAGAZINE. Transcribed from french by Bruno BIORDI. TanX to Ken Bibb for some corrections of this traduction ;-) Have a look to : -------------- SHADOW GALLERY - "Shadow Gallery" 1992 - "Carved In Stone" 1995 MAGELLAN - "Hour Of Restoration" 1991 - "Impending Ascension" 1993 LANDMARQ - "Solitary Witness" 1992 - "Infinity Parade" 1993 - "The Vision Pit" 1995 ARAGON - "The Meeting" 1992 - "Rocking Horse" 1993 - "Mouse" 1995 Bye. Bruno... ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 17 Jan 96 19:48:19 EST From: Damon M. Fibraio To: email_address_removed Subject: Re: ACOS Live - The "Outro" Message-ID: Bag the outro to ACOS? I don't know about that. The outro seems to wrap the song up nicely. Remember the song is about life, and the band uses the analogy of the seasons. Well, the old man is dead and all, but there is a new life and the cycle starts again, so the intro and outro need to be there. I can't explain it much better than that. It's like saying that once fall is over, things must stop for an amazing outro. No, winter picks up and the whole winter/spring/summer/fall thing starts again. If we took the intro to mean winter and the Crimson Sunset to be the Fall, then the outro starts Winter again. Don't ask me why I think like this, I've been hit on the head too many times, but I love the intro and outro. I like little musical effectsx like those used in ACOS. To strip the outro out of the song in live settings would leave a hole in the song. I at least would feel like something were missing. This is my opinion and I am not flaming, so don't get uptight. I do see your point, but unless they want to change the outro for some reason, I believe that the song should be kept the way it is on the Cd in a live performance, unless they want to make those classic DT modifications they always make to their music. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 17 Jan 1996 20:20:43 -0500 From: email_address_removed (Ben Flynn) To: email_address_removed Subject: Effects Processor Message-ID: > I'm trying to save up for one of those guitar effects procs [deleted] Hey, I just bought an Alesis Midiverb IV- it's a really good unit. Try it out in the store- its not very expensive either (about 350-400$). Just thought I'd suggest this. Anyone else have a Midiverb or Quadraverb? Ben ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 17 Jan 1996 19:35:44 -0600 (CST) From: Bigman To: email_address_removed Subject: I'm back & stuff/Re: Synthesizers/Keyboards! Message-ID: > From: Andreas Kasper > > My question for you is: is there any synthesizer or keyboard you can > recommend for progressive rock/metal-type music? Ummm, I've found that a half-way decent distortion pedal can turn any keyboard into a wicked guitar. Just a thought I had... Well, I'm back at a computer after a month of vacation (and an awesome road trip to Long Island!). Nothing like coming back and finding 20+ jams in your inbox... just finished catching up. I envy all you people that have computers at home... It was excellent meeting some of you at YtseCon. Hey Roy Rog...err, I mean Digital Man, how's it going? :^) Oh, and Bafu--thanks for knighting me an official "fucking idiot!" :^) Also hello to Brian Wherry, the Chew Bros., Heath Augustover (sp?), Brian Anderson, Trey, Brandon G., and, of course, Matt, Ben, and Aaron, my road trip compadres. Found "Lords of Sound" at a local CD store called Grand Central Station. WOO-HOO! Finally got to hear "AY FOUNDITSA CAUDAP WIMAAAAYYY!!" and "squeaaa waaaaah!" *Bigman is a happy camper* I only wish I had dixcovered DT back then, cuz I was a whole 20 miles from that show. Not only that, but is was on the radio, too... *sigh* oh, well. Guess that's about it. Again, it was great finally meeting all of you that were at YtseCon. Later... Bigman ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 17 Jan 1996 19:47:10 From: email_address_removed (George Szumski) To: email_address_removed Subject: People Message-ID: I was stunned and amazed at the amount of people that heard Dream Theater's version of Perfect Strangers and couldn't tell the differance between Bruce Dickinson and James when I played both versions back to back the other day. Kind of makes you wonder if all the snow here in the Cleveland area is just a little TOO MUCH for mere mortals. Speaking of mortals, I agree with Mike Bahr's statement about "just relax and let the conversation develop" when talking to special people like our friends in the band. Talk to all of you soon, George. If you see me driving sideways...wave. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 17 Jan 1996 20:11:02 -0800 (PST) From: Steve Borzilleri To: Dream Thespians Subject: Meteoric Replies Message-ID: > From: "Scott D. Duren" > Subject: Misc. > > #2 - Can anyone give me an explanation behind To Live Forever - the > source of inspiration and the exact meaning of lyrical content? Someone discovered several lines of the song a few months ago in a book called "Catch 22." I've never read it, but I've heard it's about the size of a dictionary, so anyone planning to find the exact words better set aside a weekend or two. As for the lyrical meaning, it could be the same as the book, or it could be something from Petrucci's mind. After asking him about the meaning of UAGM, I'm not quite as eager to ponder his lyrical meanings as I once was. Metropolis is a story, but Glass Moon is a reflection. I can't tell if To Live Forever is a concrete philosophy of some sort, or a metaphor for part of Petrucci's life... If I'd started from the top, and worked my way down, there'd be no reason to live forever. To Live Forever. The starvation has turned me outside-in, and the wind has blown me halfway 'cross the world...across the world. Why was I born...in an age of distrust? I'd offer some change for a photograph. It'll always stay the same. It will always be the same. Until I show desire for revenge, my hunger will waste me to sleep. As long as I have to die in the attempt, then there is no reason... To Live Forever. I found you where they left you, there. A passing word that's gone forever, and searching my memory for answers, I saw the words of a letter you wrote. She said, "You don't have to live forever, you don't want to live forever," and everything's changing now...I don't want... To Live Forever......no... > #4 - ((excised)) It's disappointing to see that Kevin Moore is getting > so trendy with his switch to the subgenre of [deleted] Perhaps a good synopsis would be "cynically jaded?" ---- > From: email_address_removed (Jon Kretschmer) > Subject: Dave Mustaine > > Oh, and Kbibb, I like the moderation. Small Jams are great, and there > is a noticeable improvement of quality. Thanks. Actually, it's just that I'm posting less these days. But yes, Ken's moderation seems to be working. ---- > From: email_address_removed > Subject: juicy things i gotta drool over > > who loves ya? > one and only one, > david the amorous kobayashi And they say I have a lot of nicknames... > ps- kaoru?? wherefore art thou, sweet pseudo-sister of mine? Kaoru is female? ---- > From: Jeremy Lakatos > > <*> email_address_removed (Beck Depression Inventory: 35) ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ "Please Explain." --Isaac Asimov Bafu Vai ------------------------------ End of YTSEJAM Digest 1232 **************************