YTSEJAM Digest 1229 Today's Topics: 1) Classical guitarists by "Chad L. Cook" 2) Re: YTSEJAM digest 1227 by email_address_removed.nl (Gerralt Partiman) 3) Ytsejam by email_address_removed (Marc Respass) 4) FederalRecords by Tim Schwartz 5) DT Midis/MC Tribute albums by Pat Daugherty 6) Bombay Vindaloo by email_address_removed 7) my response by email_address_removed 8) Iron Maiden/Fear Factory Show by email_address_removed 9) Sound cards by "Trey (T-Stretch) Allen" 10) Swap 'Lie' single for Queen 'Too Much Love Will Kill You' single by email_address_removed.co.uk 11) 7-String on Perfect Strangers by email_address_removed.co.uk 12) tape tree update by Brian Cox 13) Re: YTSEJAM digest 1227 by YtseJammer 14) Re: UK Jammers / Attn: Mike Backof by Lazarus 15) Cool Stuff? by email_address_removed (Brandon R. Russell) 16) Aha! by email_address_removed (Ktulu) 17) Re: When 6&7 strings unite by Ernesto Schnack 18) Portnoy Interview by BIORDI Bruno 19) David Letterman by email_address_removed 20) YTSEJAM digest 1228 by "Steven Johnson" 21) Mike Portnoy clinic in Dayton, OH!!!! by "Daniel James Temmesfeld" 22) Back by Damon M. Fibraio 23) IM analogy by "John R. Kotzian" 24) Vanilla Ice by email_address_removed.co.uk 25) UK Jammers... by Bean 26) DT Instrumentals by Scott Luttringer 27) Victor by "Andrew Keith Garinger" ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 15 Jan 1996 09:53:51 -0500 (EST) From: "Chad L. Cook" To: email_address_removed Subject: Classical guitarists Message-ID: Yup I play classical! It rules.. I play mostly classical, but like to do some "shredding" for fun too! (especially on my JPM100! *grin*)... Any other classical guitarists out there? Get in touch w/ me! Chad UNIX System Administrator BBN Systems and Technologies email_address_removed ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 15 Jan 1996 16:27:39 +0100 From: email_address_removed.nl (Gerralt Partiman) To: email_address_removed Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 1227 Message-ID: Hello Jammers, the other day I was reading a mag from some months ago and I encountered the prog/symfo band World Trade who are on the Magna Carta label. I listened to the CD at my local shop and I can't tell whether I like it or hate it. The music is rather soft with a prominent bass guitar, while the guitar is most of the time in the background. The vocals sound really good but the melodies are very weird. It will probably take some weeks before I buy the damn thing (money), but if anyone has the album let me/us know what you think. Regards! Gerralt Partiman. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 15 Jan 1996 10:35:10 -0500 From: email_address_removed (Marc Respass) To: email_address_removed Subject: Ytsejam Message-ID: Some who signed his name "Mark" but who's email address is email_address_removed (brian tomko) wrote: > Anyone know where to get a copy of Ytse Jam? What do you mean? The song? It appears on the first album, When Dream and Day Unite, originally released on Mechanic Records and currently out of print although you may find an import. Alternatively, Mike Bahr has put together When Dream and Today Unite - all the tunes from WDADU played live and sung by LaBrie (except Ytsejam of course). Brian "master transcriber" Wherry has a MIDI version of ytsejam that he's gonna send me and that I'm gonna put up on my ftp site - accessable via my web page (which loads the fastest because there's nothing on it as I prepare to redo it). I'm gonna split up the parts too and make them available in Emagic's Logic format as well as MIDI. --Marc R ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 15 Jan 1996 17:30:07 +0100 (MET) From: Tim Schwartz To: email_address_removed Subject: FederalRecords Message-ID: Hi Jammers, I know that there are several musicians on the jam, and I have a question to those. I recently got email from a companie called FederalRecords, wich plans to release a CD compilation with several "newcomers". The company claims to be in contact with major labels. I wonder if anyone in this list also got mail by them, or has heard anything about them. Thanx for every information you can give me in advance, till later Tim Schwartz email_address_removed.de ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 15 Jan 1996 11:51:28 -0500 (EST) From: Pat Daugherty To: Dream Theater Subject: DT Midis/MC Tribute albums Message-ID: I have Under a Glass Moon (I think it is basically just the keyboard part) and Caught in a Web as Midi file. I still have them in my unix account so I can uuencode them to anyone... I went and ordered all the Magna Carta tribute albums from cdconnection.com (along with Shadow Gallery's cd) so I should be able to comment on them soon. **** Pat Daugherty email_address_removed **** **** "Every breath leaves me one less to my last" --Dream Theater **** **** "That is not an option, Mr. Mulder" --X-Files **** **** GO CAPITALS! GO BULLETS! GO DAYTON FLYERS! GO TERPS! **** ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 15 Jan 1996 12:50:40 -0500 From: email_address_removed To: email_address_removed Subject: Bombay Vindaloo Message-ID: Hey, everyone, just wondering if anyone has heard the studio (?) version of Bombay Vindaloo on the album "Guitar's Practicing Musicians". It's like Volume 3 or 4 or 5, but I was wondering if it was anything like the Live at the Marquee. BTW, does anyone have any other live versions of this, or was it a 1 time thing? later--------------Brian ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 15 Jan 1996 13:12:13 -0600 (CST) From: email_address_removed To: email_address_removed Subject: my response Message-ID: Date sent: 15-JAN-1996 13:04:42 OK, I guess I dug myself into a bit of a hole here. Part of what I was trying to say is that there's a right way and a wrong way to approach a band member you admire. I've done it the wrong way (if anyone wants to hear about the time I met 4/5 of Fates Warning you can mail me personally.) I wouldn't be surprised if some of you have made the same mistake. I also realize that comparing bands to people like OJ and Dahmer (I'm from Milwaukee, OK?) was a bit too much. Maybe I'm just too damn intimidated that I can't write like DT or others that I admire like them. So what. I'm musically inclined, but not particularily talented. Does this make me a lower form of life that someone who has a recording contract? Of course not. I'll shut up now. [sig trimmed] ________________________________________________________________________________ Debbie Seeger University of Wisconsin-Oshkosh Music Major (Recording Technology emphasis) Internet - email_address_removed ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 15 Jan 1996 14:29:57 EST From: email_address_removed To: email_address_removed Subject: Iron Maiden/Fear Factory Show Message-ID: I know this is not DT related but does anyone know the dates or how to find the dates through the internet of the Maiden/Factory show? JonBoy ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 15 Jan 96 16:34:23 -0500 From: "Trey (T-Stretch) Allen" To: email_address_removed Subject: Sound cards Message-ID: [Dave Ellis wrote] >I'm also getting an AWE32 this weekend, so I want to hear it again with >wavetable samples. I'm about to get a new computer and a better sound card is an option I could pay extra for. I dont know that much about sound cards and midi in general so could someone give me a breif explinataon and let me know if its worth the extra $$. The card that comes w/ the PC is just a SB 16 bit something or other. If you can please let me know what are the essintials in good sound cards and what is needed to do what and stuff like that! Thanks! ========"If I started at the top and worked my way down, then there ======== would be no reason to live forever..." -Dream Theater- Trey Allen (T-Stretch) 904-721-1362 Jax. Fl email_address_removed =========== http://www.ju.edu/UsrWebPages/tallen/home.html ============ ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 15 Jan 1996 22:05:20 +0000 From: email_address_removed.co.uk To: email_address_removed Subject: Swap 'Lie' single for Queen 'Too Much Love Will Kill You' single Message-ID: <"4485*/I=P/S=McLoughlin/OU=bra0108/O=icl/PRMD=icl/ADMD=gold 400/C=GB/"@MHS> I read that Queen's TMLWKY from the new album has now been released as a single in the US. If anyone sees it and would like to swap(s) for 'Lie' then please mail me. 'Lie' costs $6 in the UK. Thanks Patricia ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 15 Jan 1996 23:10:40 +0000 From: email_address_removed.co.uk To: email_address_removed Subject: 7-String on Perfect Strangers Message-ID: <"4493*/I=P/S=McLoughlin/OU=bra0108/O=icl/PRMD=icl/ADMD=gold 400/C=GB/"@MHS> The only song at Ronnie Scotts on which John Petrucci used his Seven String was Perfect Strangers. Patricia ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 15 Jan 1996 18:18:42 -0600 (CST) From: Brian Cox To: email_address_removed Subject: tape tree update Message-ID: the tape tree thing is coming right along. remember that thursday is the last day to submit your name. i have enough DAT>analog and analog>analog people, so all i need now are more "leaves" that is all you do is send your blanks and return postage to the "limb" above you. as it is now i dont think anyone will have to make more than 4 or 5 tapes. the leaves dont have to own any equipment or make any tapes, so if you want a tape of the 12/29/95 birch hill dream theater show, be sure to email me soon and let me know. i will be posting the entire tree structure early next week probably and i will be notifying the DAT people before that so they can go ahead and get their DAT blanks sent to me. later.. <><><><><><><><><> Brian V. Cox (email_address_removed) <><><><><><><><><> <>Rush|Dream Theater|Queensryche|King's X|Echolyn|King Crimson|Voivod><> <><><><><><><><><>DAT Taper/Trader - Email me for list<><><><><><><><><> <><><><><><><><><><> http://www.metronet.com/lerxst <><><><><><><><><><> ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 15 Jan 1996 19:42:10 -0500 (EST) From: YtseJammer To: email_address_removed Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 1227 Message-ID: HEY! Could someone be SO kind as to dub some of these nice little bootlegs for me? I'm willing to pay (although not extraordinary prices, as I'm trying to save up for one of those guitar effects procs ...). if anyone would be so kind ... also, does anyone know where I could look for bootlegs of DT around the washington dc area? i'd like to know ... thanks! ok - now for commentary on a song or two - did you hear the neato trick petrucci does on "To live forever" (the Lie single), where he's sliding his hand down the G string, hitting all the harmonics on the way down? I think it's pretty cool, it's something new to add to my 2years and growing guitar arsenal ;). ok, no more from me, i gotta go practice. !! ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 16 Jan 1996 01:55:12 +0000 (GMT) From: Lazarus To: email_address_removed Subject: Re: UK Jammers / Attn: Mike Backof Message-ID: On Jan 12th, borlangw wrote: > There's also Edd in Stirling (who I met at the Satch gig, where I got a > signed drum-skin, YIPPEE!) and Ian in St Andrews who is a lurker :-) And me! - Lazarus in St. A. Ian & I are actually in the same band - Ex Machina - and we're in the studio to record the demo-tape on Friday 19th. - plug - plug - plug - plug - :) Mike: Your mail finally arrived after months of floating round the system. I'll mail you a copy when we finish recording. Send me a snail mail address. If anyone else is interested in our little DT/Q'ryche/Marillion type band and wants a copy, mail me, or check out the WWW Site at: http://iamac.st-andrews.ac.uk/ExMachina/ for more info on the band. I lost access to my account for a while, but seeing as the University is now employing me, I'm back. Seems like there's UK Jammers coming out of the woodwork everywhere. You'd be amazed how many DT fans there are in a town this small, but most of them aren't on the Jam. Lastly, my condolences to Mike Portnoy. I went through the same last May, so you have my utmost sympathy. Time to go, there's still far too much pre-production to be done.... Lazarus | **** Lazarus - sjs@st-and.ac.uk **** | "I am not a god! I was just mis- | | Keys & backing vox for Ex Machina. | quoted." -- D. Lister, Red Dwarf | | All Ex Machina info can be found at: | * Dream Theater ** Queensryche * | | http://iamac.st-and.ac.uk/ExMachina/ | Rush * Marillion * All About Eve | ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 15 Jan 1996 18:53:56 +0000 From: email_address_removed (Brandon R. Russell) To: email_address_removed Subject: Cool Stuff? Message-ID: This is my first time, so here we go... I'm definitely very into DT, but my collection of "hard to get" albums is limited. (I won't say bootlegs). Anyone know of how I might get a hold of a few of them? E-Mail me back. Also, I am interested in MIDI versions of any DT songs. So if you've got some, get a hold of me. One last thing, any musicians out there looking to sell quality analogue keyboard gear? E-mail me with a description and a price so we can talk. I guess I did think of one more thing. Any other fans in Southern California. I'm about 30 min south of LA in Newport Beach. Let me know. Also, I know it's probably a foolish question, but anyone know any '96 tour info? ...I especially like the part in odd time... ...Brandon Russell ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 15 Jan 1996 21:04:00 -0700 From: email_address_removed (Ktulu) To: email_address_removed Subject: Aha! Message-ID: Hello... I have concluded that Eve is the prettiest song ever written. Thank you.... /me bows. BenJammin "Just got the TSM single" Laussade "Stop the whales!" "Save the madness!" ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 15 Jan 96 23:56:24 -0400 (EDT) From: Ernesto Schnack To: email_address_removed Subject: Re: When 6&7 strings unite Message-ID: message_id_removed A>6 Strings : It's not a problem !!! Just Tune Yr 6-Strings Guitar like his >7-Strings (B,E,A,D,G,B,E) but forget the high E... Actually, if you tune the lowE to B and the A to E, and leave the rest of the strings the same you can play the whole song with leads and everything (with a couple of modifications of course since you don't have an A string)... I already learned 'Lie' that way... -- If you're ever eating hot coal, swallow it fast or else you'll burn your tongue. DEEP THOUGHTS by Ernie email_address_removed ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 16 Jan 1996 02:34:09 +0100 (MET) From: BIORDI Bruno To: email_address_removed Subject: Portnoy Interview Message-ID: [I corrected a few typos in the interview--kbibb] Hi there... Wouuaw !!! What a surprise when I was buying the new HARD ROCK 'Zine, January Edition : I read 'DREAM THEATER INTERVIEW' !!! Yeeees !!! And not a small one, SIX PAGES !!!, including 3 snapshots, and a list with indispensable CDs for all of you, Progressive fans... Sorry, the interview is in French, so I translate the essential (And what I can) ;-) Hard Rock : On ACOS, we found a lot of covers, but not all of them you've played. The Choice of the songs weren't too hard ? M.Portnoy : Oh Yeah, It's was very difficult ! At the start, we've choice to put just some of them on ACOS, and our label (Warner) just wanted include one or two covers. Then we said "Forget it ! Let's make a full cd man !!!" H.R. : For the concert, you invited a lot of guests, especially those from the progressive scene : Steve Hogarth, Steve Rothery, Steve Howe, Steve Hackett... M.P. : All the Steves from progressive rock were there... (laugh) H.R. : Okey, but it wasn't by chance... M.P. : Yeah, it was depending their own occupations ! When the rumour about our special concert was know by many guys, a lot of them contact us. A the beginning, this concert was organised because many guests were free in London that day. And not necessary guys from the progessive scene. For information, we have contacted Iron Maiden, Ozzy Osbourne and Glen Tipton from Judas Priest... H.R. : What about the missing covers on ACOS ? M.P. : All titles we played with guests don't appear on ACOS coz we wanted that CD still be only played by DT ! But we played "Happiness Is A Warm Gun" from The Beatles with Steve Hogarth, "Easter" from Marillion with Hogarth and Steve Rothery, "Damage Inc" from Metallica with Barney Greenway from Napalm Death -A very interesting one-, and a last intrumental medley (20 minutes long !) with Steve Howe, including exclusively titles from YES : "Machine Messiah", "Close To The Edge", "Starship Trooper", "Hearth Of The Sunrise" and "Siberian Khatru". So, we played some songs with our traditional line up : "Tears" from Rush, "Red Hill Mining Town" from U2, "In The Dead Of Night" from UK and "Winter" from Tori Amos. H.R. : You've choice to play a title from Genesis, epoch Phil Collins ! It's surprise me ! M.P. : Yes, it's strange ! I prefered to play something like "Firth Of Fifth", "Supper's Ready", "In The Cage", from the epoch Peter Gabriel. But when we worked that medley, "Turn It On Again" was THE perfect conclusion ! H.R. : Will DT play another gig like that ? M.P. : Yes, I think so. The idea of this first secret show in London was mine ! If it only depending of me, we'll play a gig like that between each albums and/or at each new tours ! Since this concert, fans say "Argh, We need another one like that !" (laugh) Tired ! End of Part I... So live another day ! ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 16 Jan 1996 05:02:37 -0500 From: email_address_removed To: email_address_removed Subject: David Letterman Message-ID: Hello, Just wanted to say that I'm all up for sending the letter. Actually it's all typed up and ready to go. Is anyone else going to do this? Seize the day! Irene ------------------------------ Date: 16 Jan 1996 08:12:08 GMT From: "Steven Johnson" To: email_address_removed Subject: YTSEJAM digest 1228 Message-ID: NOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!! PLEEEEEEEZZZZZ!!!!!! No more mentions of BUSH on the beloved 'Jam!!!!!! ......thanx- :) *************************************************************** e v i t c e p s r e p w e n a t e G Steve Johnson, Amoco Media Relations -- svjohnson.amoco.com *************************************************************** ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 16 Jan 1996 11:38:00 -500 (EST) From: "Daniel James Temmesfeld" To: email_address_removed Subject: Mike Portnoy clinic in Dayton, OH!!!! Message-ID: Hey all you Ohioans!! I just heard from a friend (and drummer) that Mike Portnoy is tentatively scheduled to do a drum clinic at Hauer Music in Dayton this summer. That is all of the info that I have for now. My friend is going to let me know as soon as he finds out more... I just thought you'd like to know *before* it happens... Dan Temmesfeld email_address_removed ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 16 Jan 96 12:13:32 EST From: Damon M. Fibraio To: email_address_removed Subject: Back Message-ID: Hello all you Jammers. Just writing to say that I am back after break. Sorry I missed everyone at the birch Hill. lord knows what I missed on the list. But, I am looking forward to talking with you all again this semester. Later. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 16 Jan 1996 12:35:33 -0500 (EST) From: "John R. Kotzian" To: email_address_removed Subject: IM analogy Message-ID: > From: "I.R. Coleman B9450389" > > There is also Ian in Huddersfield -Is he the "Sheriff of Huddersfield", I wonder? -Oh, sorry, I'm thinking of Rod Smallwood. -John ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 16 Jan 1996 18:44:46 +0000 From: email_address_removed.co.uk To: email_address_removed Subject: Vanilla Ice Message-ID: <"4520*/I=P/S=McLoughlin/OU=bra0108/O=icl/PRMD=icl/ADMD=gold 400/C=GB/"@MHS> >Vanilla Ice copied the riff from some other song, but I can't >remember the name of the song. Anyone know of it? Wasn't it 'Under Pressure' ? Patricia ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 16 Jan 1996 20:04:46 +0000 (GMT) From: Bean To: email_address_removed Subject: UK Jammers... Message-ID: Tis me in Surrey too... and to any of you who have tryed to contact me lately mail to my account is a little dodgy... any problems try email_address_removed.ac.uk [sig trimmed] -- | _ \ | |_) | ___ __ _ _ __ Email: email_address_removed.uk | _ \ / _ \ / _` | '_ \ | |_) | __/| (_| | | | | WWW: http://spodbox.linux.org.uk/~bean ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 16 Jan 1996 11:22:42 -0800 (PST) From: Scott Luttringer To: YTSE JAM DIGEST Subject: DT Instrumentals Message-ID: Hello Jammers: I have recently acquired quite a few bootlegs, and I am curious as to the names of some of the instrumentals that they play live. First of all, I know that the instrumental before TTT is Puppies On Acid, and The solo at the end of TLF is Moon Bubbles. How about that Jam on Lost In the Sky? Anyone know? Also, could anyone direct me to a bootleg which has Barfbag on it? Thanks alot. On with the new and improved jams! -Scott ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 16 Jan 1996 16:01:36 -0500 (EST) From: "Andrew Keith Garinger" To: email_address_removed (Ytsejam Mailing List) Cc: email_address_removed (Jon Heller) Subject: Victor Message-ID: I just picked up the new Alex Lifeson solo project, "Victor". I had heard that his band consisted of Edwin from I Mother Earth and Les Claypool from Primus. That's only partially true. Edwin sings on 5 tracks and backs on one. Les only plays on one track. There are three instrumental tracks, three tracks with Alex on lead vocals, and one with someone named Dalbello(female) on lead. Anyone know who she is? [I answer this in a separate post--kbibb] The first song is very heavy, kinda repetitive, and not very representative of the rest of the album. Not bad, but a large surprise coming from Alex, who wrote or coed every song. Second track sounds a little like Presto-era Rush. Pretty good, IMHO. Edwin sings very well here. Third track has Dalbello on vox. She sounds ALOT like really old Geddy when she isn't at conversational level. Unusual song. Has some rhyming slow parts which change into Roll the Bones-sounding guitar riffs. Nice guitar solo about halfway through. Fourth track is an instrumental. Heavy on the synth and keys in the intro. Got a little Satch flavor to it, but not near as technical. Fifth track is Alex's first on lead. Kinda spacey keyboard intro for about 2 and a quarter min. til the guitars kick in. Very mellow and trippy. Alex's vocals are a monotone speech kinda quiet. The backup vox come in for the last verse. Cool sound. This one doesn't rock much, but it's still good. Nice guitar solo outro. Sixth track rocks a little more. Has a cool bass call-guitar response groove to it. Noticeably good drumming by Blake Manning. Anyone know any more about him or Bill Bell(guitar)? Seventh track is a funky little instrumental with a great bass guitar groove. It's got some samples of women bitching about men's personal habits. Kinda funny in a weird sort of way. Alex's voice tells them to SHUT UP! at the end. He completely flips out. Eighth track is another instrumental. Kinda eastern sound to the intro. Mellow and laid back. Alex uses some cool effects. Ninth track ROCKS! This one has Les on bass, but you can't really tell. It's very heavy and kinda industrial. Edwin goes back to his usual raspy vocal style. Tenth track uses a poem called (surprisingly)"Victor" by W.H. Auden for vox. No guitar. Just keys, bass, horns(?), and Alex on vox reading the poem in a semi-monotone. I don't like this one much. The last track rocks in a little more Rushian style. I like the intricate background guitar on some parts of the chorus. Edwin manages to squeeze both of his vocal styles into this one. Overall, I would probably recommend this to anyone who is a major Rush fan. There is a lot of Rushian influence, but it is DEFINITELY not Rush. It's only moderately progressive, but it covers an intriguing amount of musical ground. If you pick it up, let me know what you think via email. Enjoy! Later, Andrew -- email_address_removed ZBT BE "Ynos" DreamTheaterBadReligionALL311thedroogsThOughtIndustryUniversalStompDownbyLawfluf ------------------------------ End of YTSEJAM Digest 1229 **************************