YTSEJAM Digest 1210 Today's Topics: 1) New London show *****spoilers**** by Timothy Lodge 2) Re: **spoiler** Holy Mother Of Mojo!!! by Mark Smeets 3) Birch Hill spoiler by The Digital Man 4) Dan Muro by email_address_removed 5) Midwest YtseCon by Jeffrey David Olson 6) Malibu (openers?) **spoiler** by jbako01 7) Birch Hill Show **spoiler** by SaVeur 8) Can't get into shows!!!! by email_address_removed 9) ***SPOILER OF BIRCH HILL*** by Styles 10) New London show *****spoilers**** by Timothy Lodge 11) by 12) Old Bridge **spoiler** by Gregory Slang ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Sat, 30 Dec 1995 02:22:21 -0500 From: Timothy Lodge To: email_address_removed Subject: New London show *****spoilers**** Message-ID: Warning: The following DT message contains spoilers..but what the heck, by the time you get this, the mini tour will be over anyways. :) ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 30 Dec 1995 01:02:18 PST From: Mark Smeets To: email_address_removed Subject: Re: **spoiler** Holy Mother Of Mojo!!! Message-ID: ** Reply to note from ytsejam@arastar.com 12/29/95 11:51pm +0800 > 2) The amount of people they actually let in....Did anyone in Malibu give a single fuck about fire codes....(Not that its any different at any concert!) You see...I was up in front by where Derek was....and as soon as the band started...I felt shifting like you wouldnt believe... before you knew it, Dickheads of all sizes and shapes started pits and began to chimb up top and do some crowd riding...Now, there is a point where thats fun...I can understand....but when it gets out of hand...thats a different story.... Yea, the concerts in vancouver are like that. Everytime I go, I have to watch my back. The security at concerts here has stepped up BIG time. there's like 20 gaurds between the stage and the crowd. Its getting rediculous, I love being upclose and all but not at the risk of getting hurt. The pits are deadly now adays. I went to the Summer SHit festival with metallica and suicidal tendancies and candlebox(horrible band) and when ST came on, I coudln't even stay in the pit, it was pure hell. I'm 6'3 and I couldn't even stand in it. ----------3) The Jerkoffs moshing and crowd surfing!- I hated this aspect twice!!!!! This is FUCKING DREAM THEATER!!!! Not Pantera!!! I still cant understand why these baldheaded, flannel wearing, Nirvana-slurping, alternative praying deuchebags have to come to this show and procede to make it look like a bush concert. Yea, what can you expect though, its these little nerd-assed chicken shits that are the target market for bands. ----------I wanted to watch Dream Theater, I was just more fortunate than others to be right up front, WHY did I have o be subject to that!!!! If it were an Anthrax or Pantera Show I would understand......This I dont...I couldnt help thinking that during the Medly when DT was doing Damage Inc., when these little fucks were slamming, that they should get a nice bullet in the skull and then I had to laugh it off when Heart Of The Sunrise came, that they stood there dumbfounded..... I love it when that happens, alot of the little kids at the metallica show, were confused as hell, "what in the world is creeping death?" or "and justice for what?" STupid things like that, I mean, if your a fan great, come out, but by all means, be familiar with the music. I remember watching the DT live in Tokyo video, no one was moshing, just standing there havin a good time. The Joe Satriani concert I attended a couple years ago was also like that, very calm crowd, a few people had tux's on. --------- Im glad they dont have the musical understanding to listen to Yes, thats one of the many things I have that these fuckfaces dont! It'd be great if they could sit down and actually listen to a song by Yes or the Who. Will they, not really, most kids now a days will be into this stuff by chance or fluke. I'm not just talking about listening to the WHO's My generation or summertime Blue's. ---------4) The still consistent bitching by people about Derek, I bumped into so many people complaining about Derek BEFORE and after he got on stage....Come on give it a rest......Kevin Moore left the group...hes gone...HE LEFT...so Fuck him! yea, juet let it rest, I heard ACOS and the Elton John Covers, the dude did a great job. Iron Maiden has the same problem too, Bruce left, blaze sux,well, blaze don't suck and what it really boils down to is personal opinion of who you like better. The excuse of, they suck cause they left the band is bullshit and flimsy as hell. - --------The band - is got to go on for the better of the band...so find someone- who will do the job....and I dont think any rice crispy critic has earned the right to say whether Derek is the right man! But I think Dream Theater has earned that right.....so they decided and Im here to support the choice! DT are the only dudes that have the right to say it, just accept what they do and if you like it, great if not, oh well, your loss. Mark [sig trimmed] ============================================================================= 666 is the number of the Beast. Well, What if Satan had a change of adress. http://vax1.rain.gen.mo.us/~mhs/stranger.htm over 400 links, the Steve harris/David Ellefson/Cliff Burton/Frank Bello web page, email me at email_address_removed or email_address_removed ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 30 Dec 1995 06:24:41 -0500 (EST) From: The Digital Man To: Ytse Jam Subject: Birch Hill spoiler Message-ID: Holy fucking shit!!! I really didn't think that any experience could be as cool as Thursday's, between the Con and the show. Well, I was dead wrong! Friday's show at the Birch Hill was truly outstanding. I have a lot of stuff to say, so I hope I can remember it all. After all, it is 6:00 on a Ytse morning. First of all, I drove down with Skadz and Brian Wherry ("Pick a lane, you leper!"). Two great guys. I sympathize with everyone that drove long distances to be here. Hung out once again with Sir Bafu, Trey, Brendan, Andy K, Mike B, Jai (MB's friend), et al. Finally got to meet Al B, the half-naked-tape-guy, Elliott "E-Man" Kim, Itchak (sp?), Fred Block (Where did you go???), Hairball, Syrinx, Pete Davis (Go A&M!), and others. Skadz, Brian, and I were reflecting on something on the way home: We've all known each other now for about two days, but we act like lifelong friends. People opened up their homes and cars to people they have never, ever met. The members of the Ytse Jam really came together like a family reunited for the holidays. I'm astounded at how fucking cool everybody is. Ken Bibb, you run the best mailing list in creation. No other list could possibly hold a candle to the Jam. Jammers are the coolest people in the world. I mean that sincerely. So, we hung out at the Fantazia Diner. That was interesting. The waitresses were kinda cool, but the manager was such a dick! I mean, we brought him a shitload of business, and the fucking guy was telling us not to walk around and stuff. I think Jay Peele had the best response to the guy, though: "Okay, jerky." (BTW - Inferno's tape is really cool.) On to the show. Quite possibly the most amazing live performance I've ever witnessed. The guys were on! They opened with - get this - Puppies on Acid into Take the Time! It was cool as hell! I won't post a whole set list, but pleasant surprises include Learning to Live, Scarred, U2's Bad (acoustic). James told us before ACoS that Mike wanted us to yell "Please Don't Go" and "Mercy Fuck." We complied. :) James mentioned us. Derek got a Ytsecon II shirt (from Bafu, I believe.) The place was motherfucking packed. I felt like Augie felt at the Malibu. I got shoved and pushed and sweated on and screamed at. Mike Bahr leaned on me for a while (you're welcome. :) After a while, though, the crowd calmed down enough that I wasn't worried about my safety anymore. Oh yeah - Jordan Rudess (of the Dregs, according to the club's welcoming sign thingie) and Rod Morgenstein (of Winger, according to the same sign) kicked ass! After the show - Derek came out to the bar and hung with us for a while. That was way cool. I have so much respect for him after that. A true gentleman. Then, a buttload of us got backstage passes. Me, Skadz, Brian W, Bafu, Mike Bahr (duh), Trey, Brendan (Am I spelling that right?), E-Man and others were all back there! James, John P, and Mike were extrememly cool backstage. They were so personable, signed anything and everything (Right, Skadz?), and bullshitted with us for a long time. Truly professional, truly great. I thanked James for being so cool and he said, "Well it would all mean nothing without you guys, eh?" Coolness. I didn't see Derek backstage. I mean, he was there, but I had already talked to him. Skadz, Brian, and I have decided that John M is The Silent Man. I went up to him and said stupid typical this-is-my-first-time-backstage shit like "John, I'm a bassist, and I think you're great," which is pretty much what I said to everyone. John sort of grunted. But he did sign two ticket stubs for me, so he's cool. I just can't express strongly enough how cool all the other Jammers are. I feel so fortunate to be a part of this list. I now consider you guys close, personal friends, and would do anything for any of you. I'm still in awe that we had never, ever met each other, and became great friends like that. Trey, Bafu, Brendan, Skadz, Brian, Mike B, Jai, Andy K (king of the Ytse frontier - you had to be there), E-Man, and everyone else - you guys rock! Everyone look out for really cool stuff coming to Trey's www page, Skadz', mine (hopefully, if I get to the scanner), and others!!! Happy New Year! -Chris -+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ Hey, Ken! Now there's less stuff to trim! Merry Christmas! -Digital Man email_address_removed http://www.uvm.edu/~cmerlo -+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 30 Dec 1995 11:06:41 -0500 From: email_address_removed To: email_address_removed Subject: Dan Muro Message-ID: What's up Ytsejammers, Does anyone now how a man named Dan Muro is connected to Dream theater? If you know this, it would be greatly appreciated if you could tell me. Please email me at email_address_removed as soon as possible if you know the answer. Thanks a lot Rob______________________________________________________________________ ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 30 Dec 1995 12:54:22 -0600 (CST) From: Jeffrey David Olson To: email_address_removed Subject: Midwest YtseCon Message-ID: I read a post earlier about a Midwest YtseCon, is there any truth to this in the slightest? Or can I only Dream to see them live again anytime soon? P.S. Im glad the Labrie bashing is done with. There isn't ANYONE else I would rather see sing for Dream Theater except for myself :) Or maybe Udo Dirksnieder IM KIDDING! Jeff Olson email_address_removed Guitarist for Angelkill Progressive Death Metal " " Listen Progressive Metal ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 30 Dec 1995 14:10:06 -0500 (EST) From: jbako01 To: email_address_removed Subject: Malibu (openers?) **spoiler** Message-ID: I am shocked and stunned that NO ONE on the 'jam who went to the Malibu show took any major notice of the opening act; or is everyone still trying to pick their collective jaws off of the floor. None other than LI's own Rod Morgenstein and Jordan Rudess (does Dixie Dregs ring a bell to anyone out there???? hello ?????) Pretty intense work for material that was "put together last week in the studio" if I remember Jordan's quote correctly :) *plug*: Do yourselves a favor and pick up his solo album, "Listen" (though it may be difficult to find), and listen to why he was the first replacement for Kevin Moore (and wonder at why derek is DT's keyboardist). This all reminds me of seeing echolyn open for DT last summer. Much like that show, Rudess/Morgenstein sure gave DT a run for their money, as far as I'm concerned. Thankfully, Scarred and ACOS saved them. One last thought: Does anyone else out there feel a sense of disappointment after the DT show when you start thinking of the songs they DIDN'T play? I know it's tough when a band such as DT has tons of material to choose from, but can only play two hours worth. Personally, I would more than gladly trade in songs like Another Day, Surrounded, LSOAD, Voices; to hear Erotomania, 6:00, CiaW, Metropolis, UaGM, LtL, anything off WDADU, etc. in a live setting because to me, these songs seem to go over a lot better. Sorry about the rambling; I'm sure your new year's going to be a lot better than mine, James Bako "This silence, deafening email_address_removed Kept inside, RAGES!" Polytechnic University -Anacrusis Brooklyn, New York "My Soul's Affliction" ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 30 Dec 1995 15:33:38 -0500 (EST) From: SaVeur To: email_address_removed Subject: Birch Hill Show **spoiler** Message-ID: howdy fellow 'Jammers, after a 5-state, 4 hour drive from Virginia, the concert and the 4 hour drive back home, i am exhausted. i'll try to be brief (i prefer boxers, as a few may have seen when i attempted to remove my long-sleeve shirt that was soaked in sweat). in short, the concert was the best, worst and strangest i've ever attended. good stuff: - Jordan RubixCube and Rod MorgageMan were really good! as my friend said after their set: "never again will i bash a glam band!" - the guys in the front row yelling "where's Kip?!" - ACOS and *Scared* live!! i can die happy now! - electric Silent Man - no solos (cat flames > /dev/null) - they played Scarred!! - meeting fellow 'Jammers. to the guy with the long black hair standing in front/beside me for most of the show and who left after PMU: sorry i didn't get yer name. - LOTS of 'Jammers at the show. i wish i could have met more of you. next time - shouting "please don't go" and "mercy fuck" (that hurt, d-man ;) - no bruises, scars, sore muscles from the fuknuts trying to "mosh" - sounded excellent and dead-on. decent mix except i thought James was a tad bit too low (could've been my position in the club) - kool ACOS shirts bad stuff: - the 2 hour wait in zero degrees Kelvin - the fuknuts trying to "mosh" - lots of PEOPLE at the show - the fuknuts trying to "mosh" - waiting 2 hours inside the club for Jordan and Rod to come on - no left turns in NJ. how fukd up is that! - i forgot my ear plugs. what was that? weird stuff: - the couple who had sex 3 songs into DT's set - the drunk, short girl who was trying to get to the stage and propositioned me for sex as you can see, the good easily out-weighs the bad. i could write more, but i'll wait and see what everyone else posts. i'm going back to sleep now. good nite. btw, we listened to ACOS over 9 times on the way home :) -john YJLHB SubCon#397 AD#241 email_address_removed http://www.site.gmu.edu/~jjens/ ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 30 Dec 1995 15:35:21 -0500 From: email_address_removed To: email_address_removed Subject: Can't get into shows!!!! Message-ID: What's up all, I need to take my frustration out on somebody so I guess you'll have to bare with me. I have been a fan on DT since I was 10 years old when I my uncle just randomly picked an album off the shelve and bought it for me. That album, subsequently, was When Dream and Day Unite. That's when I first started to get into music and ever since then, DT has been my favorite band. (Don't worry, there's a purpose to this story!) Im almost 17 now and i've been trying to go to every single DT gig in the NY area since I was 10 -- But i've never gotten in!! The only concert I was "old enough" to go to was the one at the Manhattan center in 94'. This really pisses me off. Even at the clubs where I had a fake ID, they just refused to let me in. I just tried going to the gigs at Malibu and at CT and neither would let me in just because they said I didn't look 18! Can someone please explain to me why you have to be 18! I meen, you still can't drink if you're 18 so what's the point? It's just so frustrating when I hear all you guys talking about how great the concerts are. (Not that you should stop talking about them because I somewhat enjoy hearing about them). But, don't I have a fuc*ing right to be pissed as hell??? Well, the good news is that I'll only have to wait one more year. Anyone that has this same problem that I, do should email me and we can can take our frustrations out on eachother!! Later, Rob__ (email_address_removed) ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 31 Dec 1995 01:12:38 -0500 (EST) From: Styles To: Dream Theater Subject: ***SPOILER OF BIRCH HILL*** Message-ID: WOW Am I the first to post on the Birch Hill show?? Killer!! Some memorable things: (good and bad) GOOD Not so good only 1 hour from my house froze my balls off for 1 1/2 hrs got to met the legendary Mike Barr He was freezing his balls off too. Got to meet a lot of jammers like Syrinx, Jill (OY VEA!) etc. That asshole that worked for the club. Cool opening act; Rod M. and the keys from the Dixie Dreggs. How long they made us wait with crappy music. Got to finally check out Derek live The fat, sweaty asshole bouncer who stood in front of Derek the whole damn time! Played for 2 1/2 hrs! Finally came on stage @ midnite! Incredible set list, great transitions between the songs, very energetic They DIDN"T play "Surrounded" or "Waits for Sleep" All 5 played their hearts out, you could tell that they were really into it. Acoustically, too small of a place for them. Most parts were too loud to appreciate some really technical parts My hearing is slowly returning "WHAT"????!!!!!! On a side note, did anyone else notice that it almost seemed like the show was "Mike Portony LIVE" {with 4 guys on backup}. He sat 5 feet above the rest of the band, and his (albeit impressive) drum kit took up half of the stage! Maybe I'm partial because I'm a drummer, but I think Mike was the most passionate, exciting, and overall most impressive guy up there. My guitarist friend {Hi Ryan} that went with me will disagree I'm sure. (BIG Petrucci fan!) Overall, though, a truly incredible experience!!! Styles ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ "You're fighting the weight of the world / and no one can save you this time... / STYLES close your eyes... / Alumni Advisor - Pi Beta and you'll find all you need in your mind"/ KAPPA DELTA RHO Fraternity ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 30 Dec 1995 02:22:21 -0500 From: Timothy Lodge To: ytsejam@arastar.com Subject: New London show *****spoilers**** Warning: The following DT message contains spoilers..but what the heck, by the time you get this, the mini tour will be over anyways. :) Dream Theater , New London 12-27-95. REPORT The ticket said that the doors opened at 8:00..after being assured that we would be let in at 8:30, it suddenly started to get really cold. ...then, 2 hours later , at 10:00 they finally started letting people in. Talk about complete bullsh*t.. This was it.. Anyways the first band, Pleasure Crush, was kind of interesting.. There singer had a decent voice, and the bass player had a good groove going, but overall they were pretty mediocre. Dream Theater came on about 11:10pm with - Under a Glass Moon - ...It really rocked.. ..Next came the Mirror which inspired a few small pits, and overall was just a killer tune. Of course it went into Lie (as it should always be). i belive next was a whole medley of cover tunes...which included 'killers' from iron maiden, and the full version of 'Damage, Inc.'..Petrucci made Kirk's solo look like child's play. After that, James said something to the effect of "I know that most of you came here tonight to especially hear one song in particular, and here it is." ..and there it was. A Change of Seasons..in all of its glory.. TRULY SPECTACULAR in too many ways to mention. All of the double guitar/keys solos were fantastic....The rest of the setlist was (in some kind of order). * Lifting Shadows off a Dream - which included a really nice new blues beginning! * Surrounded..which was ok, except that they played the normal ending, and not the **much improved** one as found on the LatM CD..i mean the nice long resolution at the "Tonight I'll still be lying here surrounded...in all the light. (resolution ..end chord)..not just end chord. * Innocence Faded..- spectacular.. the end jam was enthralling..... * Voices - Very good. * The Silent man....The usual up until the end..last chorus when it turned into the electric version! And James sang it up an octave..it was great. * Pull me Under - always a crowd favorite. Unfortunately, they had to stop before the encore due to the bar's owners or something.. the remaining songs on the set were the acoustic version of wait for sleep..and perfect strangers. ------------------------------ After the show, a few of us (and there were only about 8 people) waited outside for the band to come out. Noticing the rented minivan with the Jersey plates, we figured this must be their mini-tour van or something...Sure enough they emerged looking very very beat at around 2am...I stood back at some people anxiously asked for things to be autographed..and i felt kind of silling, and kind of like we were all being really annoying or something....so after all was said and done, i had a very nice 10 second exchange and handshake with one of my idols, John Petrucci..What do you say to a guy like that without sounding like Beavis and Butthead or something? (heh heh man..you rule! yea yea you rule!) So in a moment of brain-shutdown i must have reverted back to age 5, because as i shook his hand i just simply said "Hey John, you're the best". and he actually cracked a very sincere looking smile and said "thank you..thank you very much.".. i think i also told him to "keep it up..and never stop" or something to that effect. Either way it was pretty cool.. On a related note..during all of this autograph signing, and talking, i overheard a conversation between Petrucci and one of their managers..the manager was asking what more equipment that they (DT) needed to begin rehearsing and recording the new material for the next album!!! I head petrucci mention BearTracks, so hopefully this means they will be working with the Images and Words producers. So that about wraps it up..as always this show gets 4 ****'s out of 4! Long live Dream Theater... --------------------------------------------------------------------------- Timothy M. Lodge Quinnipiac College School of Law, Class of 1998. email_address_removed email_address_removed ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 20 Dec 1994 06:07:30 -0500 From: Gregory Slang To: email_address_removed Subject: Old Bridge **spoiler** Message-ID: I'm sure there's already been plenty of comments on the Old Bridge show as I have waited 24 hours for it to set in, but just have a few random comments. I think I must was the most grateful fan to get in last night. One, because I am only 17. I went to the extent of doing a computer printout of a fake date of birth and patching it on my license. Second, I showed up without tix, because Ticket Master screwed up my order. Anyway, my moment of glory came after the guy believed my license DOB and I was able to give a confirmation number for my ticket. I think it's safe to say I was going fucking nuts when I finally got in. Besides the huge mass of people and the long wait to see the show (12:15 AM), it was great. I was able to stand up on a railing and get a good view. Personal Highlights: 1.) Opening with The Mirror (I was commenting to my friends before the show about how great an opener this would be and that they never use it. Sure enough they did and I felt smart. :)) 2.) Electric version of The Silent Man. Simply kicked ass. Can't wait to hear it again if Mike or someone else puts it out on CD. 3.) Scarred. Great to finally hear it live, but unfortunate that the rumor was going on during the whole wait outside before the show. I was half expecting it the whole time. Would have been better if it took me by surprise. 4.) When James said ACOS was made possible because of the folks on the Internet and told us to shout "Please don't go". I felt good knowing I was one of few in my section who knew what he was talking about. I could go on, but I don't want these messages to be repetitive. PS: Everyone's ears still ringing? -- Greg "And I don't need your fucking shit to get me through the day!" -JL 12/29 ------------------------------ End of YTSEJAM Digest 1210 **************************