YTSEJAM Digest 1205 Today's Topics: 1) Learning To Drum by email_address_removed (Marc Respass) 2) Rockabilia - Concert T-Shirts by email_address_removed (A G Stiles) 3) Re: YTSEJAM digest 1201 by Bigman 4) Re: YTSEJAM digest 1202 by Bigman 5) Re: YTSEJAM digest 1200 by email_address_removed (Ryan Park) 6) I neeeeed! by email_address_removed (Ktulu) 7) VERY BAD NEWS!!! by "Trey (T-Stretch) Allen" 8) Re: VERY BAD NEWS!!! by Michael Bahr 9) Japanese Bonus CD by Atsushi Kawami(=?ISO-2022-JP?B?GyRCQG44KxsoQg==?= 10) Don't Look Past Me by email_address_removed (Lars Hellsten) 11) Re: YTSEJAM digest 1203 by Rick Terry 12) No lynch mobs? by "Paul W. Cashman" 13) Re: VERY BAD NEWS!!! by Andrew Keegan 14) Fates Lyric by Arthur Pendragn 15) Re: VERY BAD NEWS!!! by "Ryan P. Skadberg" 16) dubs by email_address_removed 17) VERY VERY IMPORTANT by Michael Bahr 18) Crazy idea by email_address_removed ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Fri, 22 Dec 1995 12:57:47 -0500 From: email_address_removed (Marc Respass) To: email_address_removed Subject: Learning To Drum Message-ID: Well, I think I'm finally gonna do it. Portnoy kills me so much and I was listening to Rush recently and Neil kills me too. I'm gonna take some drum lessons!! So, I wanted to ask you YtseDrummers for some advice. I'm a bass player and I like it that way but I'm working with a friend on a recording project and we have to write the drums ourselves (via the ever popular drum machine). That's just for demos of course. When we go into the studio, we'll have a real band. So I thought that learning to play some drums would give me a better understanding of drums and help me write better parts. Plus, it'll probaby help my bass playing a lot. I have no intentions of becoming a drummer or playing drums in a band. I don't even want to buy a whole kit. I'm wondering what I can get away with (or without) and still learn to play somewhat. Remember, it's much more to be able to drum out a part I hear in my head, understand drums better, know what the heck Portnoy is doing, and read drum notation. Thanks a lot. I'm making the DT association here because Portnoy is the real reason that I'm even considering any drum lessons but it might be more appropriate to reply in email. I don't know. --Marc Respass ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 22 Dec 1995 14:25:41 -0500 From: email_address_removed (A G Stiles) To: email_address_removed Subject: Rockabilia - Concert T-Shirts Message-ID: Hi all. I was looking through a local music store's "music" magazine (Request, put out by Sam Goody, et al), and noticed an organization selling "authentic concert t-shirts." They had pictures of ~100 t-shirt fronts, with another 200 or so listed. One of the listed shirts was DT Mirror. Does anyone know what this might look like? The shirts were $15.95 ea. I'd just like to know what to expect if I do order one. Thanks in advance, Andrew Stiles email_address_removed email_address_removed ps. Please reply to me personally, not to the 'jam. Thanx. pps. I'd really like to purchase my own concert t *at* a DT concert, but I'll hafta wait 'til next year for that. :( ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 22 Dec 1995 14:09:00 -0600 (CST) From: Bigman To: email_address_removed Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 1201 Message-ID: > Date: Tue, 12 Dec 1995 00:18:13 -0500 (EST) > From: kristopher long > Subject: incoherent babblings ***RIP***SLASH***TEAR*** > > "DON'T YOU KNOW THE DEWEY DECIMAL SYSTEM!!!" > ---Conan the Librarian > YES!!!! UHF!!!! Weird Al rules!!! If you haven't seen this movie, and you like stupid comedies (ie: Jim Carrey movies), GO SEE IT!!! :^) > Date: Tue, 12 Dec 1995 11:22:58 -0500 > From: email_address_removed > Subject: JOHN PERTRUCCI IS DEAD!!!!!! ***MORE RIPPING*** > On to better things: Congrats to the few who took a stab at my last > lyrical challenge and found out that it was indeed "Gimme the Prize" > by Queen. Of course I must now move on to another lyrical > challenge...even you bible toters will like it: > > "Tell me Jesus, are you angry? > One more sheep has just gone astray > A hardening of hearts turning to stone > Wandering off so far from home" Oooh! Oooh! I know this one! "Who Cares" by Extreme off III Sides. Later Bigman ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 22 Dec 1995 14:20:03 -0600 (CST) From: Bigman To: email_address_removed Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 1202 Message-ID: > Date: Tue, 12 Dec 1995 18:49:38 -0700 > From: email_address_removed (Ktulu) > Subject: I just had to post this before I forgot..... > > Greeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeetings (season's) Thanks. Dido. :^) > > I was listening to my The Dance of Eternity boot and during > Metropolis, I found yet another mistake....I dunno, maybe this has been > mentioned before. Oh well. > Anywho, here's what was sung: > > "Deciet is the second without end, > The city's cold blood teaches us to survive > Just keep your heart in my eyes and we'll stay alive > The third arrives......" > > First person to point out James's mistake gets a free Ytse-Prize. > > Seeya. > > > > Ben "Quotes" Laussade > Ah, yes...I noticed this one, too... "Just keep MY heart in YOUR eyes and we'll stay alive..." OK, Ben, whadda I get?! :^) Later Bigman ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 22 Dec 1995 20:19:59 -0500 (EST) From: email_address_removed (Ryan Park) To: email_address_removed Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 1200 Message-ID: Hello Andy! > This is just one guy talking, but I like all the different > subjects and non-DT topics that everyone seems to get > involved with in here. I disagree with the people that say > this list should stick to DT related topics only. I live in > Iowa, in the heartland of the U.S.A., where hardly anyone > i've meet has heard of Dream Theater, and don't have a clue > as to progressive rock is. Hey, I live in Iowa as well... where in Iowa are you? I'm in Bettendorf. This is cool to meet another DT fan from Iowa... I met one on the YTSEJAM from Davenport, last August... like you said, there are very few prog rock fans here. However, there are a lot of Green Day fans... |> |> Ryan Park |\ | email_address_removed ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 22 Dec 1995 23:43:30 -0700 From: email_address_removed (Ktulu) To: email_address_removed Subject: I neeeeed! Message-ID: Greetings... Does ANYONE have a pic of the Majesty symbol on your computer? It doesn't really matter what size, though desktop-size would be nice....Thanks in advance. Ben "Finally Got His Double Bass Drum Pedal" Laussade "Tweet, tweet, tweet!" Some bird, from A Change of Seasons Bad spellers of the world UNTIE!!! ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 23 Dec 95 04:01:35 -0500 From: "Trey (T-Stretch) Allen" To: email_address_removed Cc: Brandon Ghioto , Subject: VERY BAD NEWS!!! Message-ID: Okay, Listen up EVERYONE! About 2-1/2 weeks ago, after many previous conversations with him about it, I received a call from Don Douglas, DT's manager, saying that DT had a band meeting and they could definatally come to the YtseCon but only for an hour and that he was working on getting more time. They had already moved their sound check some for them to be able to be there that long but he would see what he could do... At this point we started collecting money and making reservations for shirts, stickers and a banquet hall to have the Con in. Well I called Don back last Monday to confirm everything (Obligations were already made for shirts, stickers and the hall.) then Don says to me that I am sorry if I "gave you the impression" DT could come to the Con the last time we talked. "Actually I still haven't spoken to all of them" about it and "still have one more member to contact", then I'll know for sure. -GAVE ME THE IMPRESSION?!?!?!?!?!- He told me they could come!!! He said that them only being there for an hour was "tentative" but if anything, it would be longer. "I'll call you tomorrow", he then said. Well I didn't hear from him the next day, or the next, so I called him. Well he still didn't know and said to call back the next day (Thursday) around 5:30pm. So I did and he was on the other line w/ someone and said he'd call me as soon as he got off. Well I waited until 6:15 and he never called, so I called him again and he had left for the day. So when I walk in from work today (Friday) at about 4:30 the phone rings...(wow he actually called me back this time...) He said that unfortunately, none of DT will be able to be at the YtseCon. Due to "other obligations" and things of that nature. "On concert days, the band is really busy and it is a bad time to have things like this." He said that "they had another band meeting last night and rather than try to make the fans happy", they decided they would not have time and would have to attend other events. He said they had interviews and picture shoots and things of that nature. Basically he just apologized and said goodbye. The Problem at hand: 1) You guys are going to be pissed... I feel terribly bad about this, but its not my fault and I don't want anyone to be mad at me. I simply relayed messages from DT to you guys and did no altering, even slightly, of what was said. I then took those messages and orghanized a, what would have been, very successful event around them. 2) The whole money issue: This is for me the biggest problem of all. I am pissed probably more than any of you, but I guess we must deal w/ it. I told him how many people were coming (70-80) and that the entire jam (2000 fans) would be very disappointed. He apologized again and would try to have them stop by for a few, but could by no means promise anything. Now - the problem lies in the situation that could arise from people not attending now, and people wanting their money back. I know that I can't expect everyone to still come to the Con but if they don't, I will be SERIOUSLY in the hole... As of now, I am $200 short. If everyone comes who says they were coming, I will be about $30-$60 ahead. This will just cover the costs of the MANY MANY phone calls I made to NY (from Florida & during the weekday) and the many other ones I made to all of you. I also put a lot of hours and planning into this, including several days of leaving work early to get the shirts ready on time. I wasn't planning on making much if any money on this event, but I wouldn't mind getting paid at least minimum wage for it. Anyway, like I was saying, if you guys who said your going to come, end up not showing...I am totally screwed...That will put me like $250-$300 buck in the hole!!! I can't afford that at all!!! That CANNOT happen!! So I urge everyone to PLEASE still attend the YtseCon II. You will still get a DT shirt and sticker but DT will probably not be there. I will have 6-8 extra shirts (I was planning on giving them to DT and management) so they will be sold with a sticker for $8. Stickers will be $1.00 and entrance will still be $10 at the door for no shirt or $15 for a shirt and sticker. I promise these costs are not for my profit. As I stated before, I am likely to be in debt after all of this. So I beg of you please everyone still come to the YtseCon II and help me out. I did my best with everything and somehow it still failed...I deeply apologize but need you all to remember that it wasn't my fault and in the end, I am the one who will probably end up being hurt the most by it... So if you will, please help me out... :( ____________________________________________________________________________ "Likely or not its a dream that we keep and at odds with our senses we'll climb. But if faith is the answer then we've already reached it and if spirit is a sign, then its only a matter of time." (Kevin Moore of Dream Theater) Trey Allen (T-Stretch) - email_address_removed - http://www.ju.edu/UsrWebPages/tallen/home.html _____________________________________________________________________________ ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 23 Dec 1995 02:53:43 -0700 (MST) From: Michael Bahr To: email_address_removed (Trey) Cc: email_address_removed, email_address_removed, email_address_removed, Subject: Re: VERY BAD NEWS!!! Message-ID: > not showing...I am totally screwed...That will put me like $250-$300 buck in > the hole!!! I can't afford that at all!!! That CANNOT happen!! So I urge > everyone to PLEASE still attend the YtseCon II. You will still get a DT > shirt and sticker but DT will probably not be there. I will have 6-8 extra > shirts (I was planning on giving them to DT and management) so they will be > sold with a sticker for $8. Stickers will be $1.00 and entrance will still > be $10 at the door for no shirt or $15 for a shirt and sticker. I promise > these costs are not for my profit. As I stated before, I am likely to be in > debt after all of this. So I beg of you please everyone still come to the > YtseCon II and help me out. Come on, everyone... he did more than was asked of him, and we all wanted to get together before the show regardless, so let's all show up on the off chance DT *might* make it there, ok? I'll talk to Mike Portnoy in person ASAP and see if I can get him to show, and to bring one or all of the others. Mike Bahr, email_address_removed ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 23 Dec 1995 22:37:20 +0900 From: Atsushi Kawami(=?ISO-2022-JP?B?GyRCQG44KxsoQg==?= To: email_address_removed Cc: email_address_removed.ac.jp Subject: Japanese Bonus CD Message-ID: <199512231337.AA062135841@curren> Hello, World Jammers. Japanese release of ACOS had a lottery ticket for unreleased live CD. As probably all of others who bought it did, I also sent it. That was three months ago, so I had forgotten it. A few days ago I got an envelope from East West Japan. Since recently I'm beginning to apply for a job, at first I thought that was guide about that company. But it wasn't that. It included a single CD! The CD includes only one song, recorded live at ronnie scott's jazz club London, England, January 31, 1995, named "Tears." Yes, that's one originally recorded by rush. Probably you jammers know that song, because Subconscious includes same tune. Two songs are from quite same show except one I got from EWJ is better recording than one in Subconscious, especially I can listen clearly about Key and Bass and the former has James's some MC before the tune. It wasn't new for me. But of course I'm glad to get it. It is Chiristmas Present from DT ? :) See you and I wish you have a happy new year. ------------------------------------------------------------------ Atsushi Kawami(email_address_removed.ac.jp or email_address_removed.ac.jp) Kawashima Lab. Department of Administration Engineering Faculty of Science and Technology, Keio University http://www.she.ae.keio.ac.jp/lab/kawashima/kawami/kawami.html ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 23 Dec 1995 09:55:27 -0500 From: email_address_removed (Lars Hellsten) To: email_address_removed Subject: Don't Look Past Me Message-ID: <199512231455.JAA20836@infinity> Question. Why has DT written so many cool songs that they've never put on the albums? Don't Look Past Me is a great song IMO, and even though the cheese factor is perhaps slightly higher in some parts than the other songs on WDADU, I don't see why they didn't take songs like that, Bombay Vindaloo, or TLF (or ACOS for that matter), and put them on WDADU or I&W. It doesn't make sense to me. I'd love to hear Don't Look Past Me with James doing the vocals. But it seems like they've totally forgotten some of their coolest material ... it just seems everything DT do is awesome, and I Don't see how they can pick and choose like that. Anyway. _____ _____ _-_ Lars Hellsten (email_address_removed) * Go Leafs & Pens! _-_ (\|/) http://infinity-online.com/~larsh/ * MatrixSoft Development (\|/) ~-~ "I saw the future, dressed as a stranger..." - Dream Theater ~-~ ------------------------------ Date: 23 Dec 1995 18:33:14 GMT From: Rick Terry To: email_address_removed Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 1203 Message-ID: Hi folks, Yes, another lurker steps out of the shadows and lets the light surround him. If any of you have the detailed track listing for WDATU, Mike Bahr's disc, with the track source information, could you e-mail it to me or post it here again? I had some news database problems a while back and lost all of the jam before issue 1195. :( I would also like to take this opportunity to wish all of you the happiest of holidays in keeping with your personal faith and traditions. In other words, MERRY CHRISTMAS and HAPPY NEW YEAR!! Cheers, Rick Terry Toronto ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 23 Dec 1995 11:14:34 -0800 (PST) From: "Paul W. Cashman" To: email_address_removed Subject: No lynch mobs? Message-ID: > Date: Tue, 12 Dec 1995 11:35:16 -0500 (EST) > From: An Angel's Kiss... > To: email_address_removed > Subject: ***BIRCH HILL GET-TOGETHER*** > Message-ID: > > > > > > > OK, folx, here the's deal about the get-together before the > > > Birch Hill show: > > > .............. > > > P.P.S. - No lynch mobs, please. Ya gotta be kiddin'.... For the price of just two videotapes, or even a reply to the chap expecting them, these little requests wouldn't be necessary. -- I know it's easier to walk away than look it in the eye.... I would raise a shelter to the sky... And here beneath this star tonight I lie.... ------ Dream Theater, "Surrounded" Paul C., email_address_removed ----- ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 23 Dec 1995 14:52:07 -0500 (EST) From: Andrew Keegan To: "Trey (T-Stretch) Allen" Cc: email_address_removed, Brandon Ghioto , Subject: Re: VERY BAD NEWS!!! Message-ID: On Sat, 23 Dec 1995, Trey (T-Stretch) Allen wrote: > I did my best with everything and somehow it still failed...I deeply > apologize but need you all to remember that it wasn't my fault and in the > end, I am the one who will probably end up being hurt the most by it... So > if you will, please help me out... :( That's management for ya! Trey (and all) I'll still be there. It will be cool to hang out with other jammers before the show. Sorry to hear about the problems, but I appreciate all the work you did. Andy ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 23 Dec 1995 15:07:48 CST From: Arthur Pendragn To: email_address_removed Subject: Fates Lyric Message-ID: -------- Hi All, I've been looking high and low for the lyrics to FW's 'Awaken the Guardian'. Other than the obvious sending in the SASE to the address in the liner I would like to find an electronic source for them. I looked all over Yahoo and couldn't get them. If you have them or can point me to them please EMAIL ME PRIVATELY. thanks todd ________________________________________________________________________ /Todd O Klindt Member TEAM OS/2 \ |email_address_removed "Be dangerous, unpredictable, | |email_address_removed and make a lot of noise!" | |email_address_removed - Anthrax 'Poison my eyes' | \________________________________________________________________________/ ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 23 Dec 1995 17:15:41 -0500 (EST) From: "Ryan P. Skadberg" To: email_address_removed (Trey) Cc: email_address_removed, email_address_removed, email_address_removed, Subject: Re: VERY BAD NEWS!!! Message-ID: Ummm... so? I just wanna meet all these wackos that I talk to online all the time. :) But seriously, wasn't the original idea just to meet everyone? It's gonna be fun with or without the band. I really think it would be ridiculous for anyone not to show up just because DT themselves won't be there. We are going to see them in concert right afterwards anyway. Also, I just want to say a big thanks to Trey for getting all this together. WIth or wothout DT it's gonna kick ass. See ya there!!!!!!! Skadz [sig trimmed] -- | Ryan P. Skadberg | Web Sites I have created: | | email_address_removed | http://www.dreamt.org/ | | System Admin/Web Developer | http://www.stream.com/ | | http://www.bluesky.net/ | http://www.frontier.com/ | ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 23 Dec 1995 18:56:50 -0500 From: email_address_removed To: email_address_removed Subject: dubs Message-ID: To anyone I am trading with: I sent private e-mail to most of you, but to those who I didn't, now that the jam is back, I don't have to worry about it. I will be going on a vacation to Long Island and am leaving on Saturday. If you have sent a package after Wednesday, be prepared to wait. I have said I will not do any more dubs after today (Friday), but if I recieve any mail tomorrow, I might get around to it. I sent Mikko's out today, I'm almost done with Rick's (sorry-probably can't get it to you until after New Year's), and the only one who has worked out a trade with me for Ytse-Con was Ben. Other than that, I don't have any other tapes in my possesion. BTW, If you want to send me e-mail, If its OK with him, (John?) I may possibly be using a friend's computer to pick up my e-mail mid-week, but I doubt it. So anyway, I'll be away until january 2nd, and will resume the trading, so don't worry-I haven't blown you off or anything. Sorry, I won't be doing any other trades at Ytse-Con because by the time this gets posted, I'll be long gone. So, Merry Christmas, Happy Hanukah, Feastful Kwanza (sp.?), Happy Boxing Day, or whatever the hell you celebrate, and Happy New Year. later--------------Brian ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 23 Dec 1995 17:08:04 -0700 (MST) From: Michael Bahr To: email_address_removed Cc: email_address_removed Subject: VERY VERY IMPORTANT Message-ID: Hello all. I'll try to be as brief and information-dense as possible with this post, since I won't get many more before I leave. A new WDATU/CD update should be posted very soon, probably tomorrow. It has been cut down a LOT because the new format of the Jam is set to conserve bandwidth, and as such it will only contain ordering info, orders received, and current CDs info. The release schedule and other explanatory stuff is no longer a part of that... I will post it periodically to keep people up to date, on its own. IT WILL BE THE LAST UPDATE UNTIL JANUARY 6th AT THE SOONEST. The reason being, I am going to New York next week for the four shows, and then the week after, I *might* squeeze an update out on New Years Day, but I might not have a chance to, before I have to make a trip to Atlanta and back (family emergency). I just want to let you all know in advance that WDATU is still late in arrival (a fact for which I am changing printing companies yet again, to "Mike Bahr Printing") but I will be shipping the CDs with all possible speed. I intend to get as darn many of them given out as possible in the shortest amount of time. Other important things for you to know. Antiquities has a master reel completed and will be submitted for processing/glass master the day I return from Atlanta. The other CDs are still in the works... Scott Hansen and I are hard at work on a good cover for the Rush CP tour disc. I'm running tape for the other things too. It looks like I might not get to all your mails in time before I leave. A busy finals week has my current mailbox exceeding 200, and I'm diggin' through them as fast as I can. I intend to get to at least half of those today, but then I can't do ANY until 1/1/96 at soonest. And, naturally, mailboxes go LIFO in the order, so if you send me mail anytime recently, and you don't hear back from me, I swear to God I don't mean to blow it off or ignore you; I will answer it as soon as possible, I PROMISE. I answer every piece of mail I get (assuming no timing issues come up) and I just want to make that known to everyone. Finally, I wish all of you and everyone you know and care about, a safe, happy, peaceful holiday season, and I hope your 1995 ends as incredibly as mine will (at Dream Theater's final concert!!). Take care, everyone!! -Mike Bahr, email_address_removed ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 23 Dec 1995 19:38:22 -0500 From: email_address_removed To: email_address_removed Subject: Crazy idea Message-ID: Just a crazy thought... What do you think would happen if you played a DT song backwards? Would everything be in 4/4 and A major? Would we derive the answer to the religion topic? Would we know JP's real name (I happen to think that 'Petrucci' is a little to coincidental...)? Would 6:00 on a Christmas morning suddenly be 12:00 on Easter? Would it sound like Rush? Or would it sound like shit? I think this warrants serious attention because you never know with these guys. Later, Glenn ------------------------------ End of YTSEJAM Digest 1205 **************************