YTSEJAM Digest 1200 Today's Topics: 1) More info on Petrucci REH video by Brandon Vaughn 2) The past Jams/god(s) etc. by nga@software-ag.de (Neil Gallop) 3) RE: YTSEJAM digest 1191 by BURGER KING EMPLOYEE OF THE MONTH 4) bad traders by Pat Daugherty 5) YTSEJAM digest 1191 by Olaf Bode 6) Take The Time verses by Steve Borzilleri 7) You do intend to eventually have DT on the DT mailing list?! by Brandon Vaughn 8) ACOS' Malmsteen section by steve matthews 9) Pop trivia stuff.. by "Richard Karsmakers" 10) DT's tour by email_address_removed 11) Awake in '95 delay by email_address_removed 12) RE: AD and Subconscious by Adam Edwards 13) Re: YTSEJAM digest 1195 by Mark Smeets 14) bah, humbug by Jaime Kimpton 15) Amusing Story of the Day .... by "Ryan P. Skadberg" 16) No RS gig video :( by email_address_removed (Marc Respass) 17) loopholes in postings by email_address_removed (Marc Respass) 18) ATTN: AL BALKIEWICZ by email_address_removed 19) ferret snot by email_address_removed ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 11 Dec 95 10:23:08 CDT From: Brandon Vaughn To: email_address_removed Subject: More info on Petrucci REH video Message-ID: Thanks to all who posted kind words for me giving a description of this video. Will Kriski asked if the video had any on-screen notation (right?), and sadly it doesn't. Most of everything Petrucci plays is notated in the book. I say _most_ because there is a solo in which the first minute is notated and then he goes off. Most of what he plays is easily seen due to the quality of the closeups. Some of his variations in the exercises are also not notated. To the guy asking about keyboard videos, I know they exist but can't recommend any (since I haven't seen any). Some Chick Corea videos, jazz videos...I'm sure I've seen some advanced videos for keyboard available. Hope that helps! Brandon Vaughn ** email_address_removed ** ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 11 Dec 95 16:38:37 +0100 From: nga@software-ag.de (Neil Gallop) To: email_address_removed Cc: donews!nga Subject: The past Jams/god(s) etc. Message-ID: Hi all just back from a little trip to the homelands (England, that is), and I'm catching up on the backlog of Jams from the past five days. Some interesting stuff going on out there. Here are my comments (forgive me if I don't mention the contributors by name: I'm sure you will know who you are). I especially liked the contribution about 'chilling out' and the fact that the boys from DT are just normal people who happen to play some very good music. Excellent. Perhaps some politicians and dictators would like the grovelling servility that some people display towards DT, but I doubt if the boys do. Ten out of ten. The religious wars seem to be hotting up nicely again. Stuff about not being human if we don't believe this or that, people claiming to be able to see deep down in my soul and my heart etc. Telepathic christians? Interesting concept. If they could see into my heart, all they would find would be a bit of muscle, a couple of fairly nasty-looking valves, a healthy coating of cholesterol and a few other bits and pieces. As for souls, I don't have one, never did, never will. There are, however, some good bits about religious philosophy and comparative religion appearing - keep 'em coming. Never trust a man who lets his god tell him how to f**k (not mine, I saw it on a tee shirt). Do the letters IRC stand for 'I rule, cool'? A good dose of reality is much more fun than all this computer stuff. I sometimes wonder how long some of the people out there could last during a power cut before the men with the one-armed tight-fitting canvas jackets came round. I also heard a good new band yesterday, they are called Theatre of Dreams or something like that. I heard two songs, one about a cow being milked, which I think was called Pull My Udder (the song, not the cow), and the other was about scarring birds away from milk bottles and was called Lifting Sparrows Off The Cream. Is this band any good, and are the members being sponsored by the Milk Marketing Board? I think there are also a couple of tracks called A Fortune In Flies, and A Change Of Trousers by the same band. By the way, is Bafu Vai a four-legged dog (there are some with only three: check out the new Alice In Chains video), or did I misunderstand this whole logical proof of god's existance stuff? stay safe and happy listening Neil Gallop (nga@software-ag.de) Currently playing: Therapy? - Troublegum ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 11 Dec 1995 09:45:37 CST From: BURGER KING EMPLOYEE OF THE MONTH To: email_address_removed Subject: RE: YTSEJAM digest 1191 Message-ID: > >Chris Crowder," Burger King Empoyee of the Month"...the last thing we need on >the Jam in another fucking idiot bragging about his life's >achievements..change your sig!! > Oh, do you like my SIG :) It's a joke! I've never worked at Burger King before in my life, and if all goes well, I won't have to, considering what I've heard about working there . Well, on with the jam. Later, Chris P.S. here comes the sig, just for you :)..... ******************************************************************************** * Chris Crowder * Dream Theater, Rush, Alice in Chains, * * HU Box #596 * Queensyrche, Genesis, Metallica, * * Searcy, AR 72149-0001 * Silverchair, Clint Black, Blues Traveler * * * *** and the list goes on *** * * * * ******************************************************************************** ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 11 Dec 1995 10:53:08 -0500 (EST) From: Pat Daugherty To: Dream Theater Subject: bad traders Wow, I am really impressed by Al Balkewicz. I love the way he has taken over 10 months to record 2 videos and mail them to me, yet I have still received nothing. I love the way he responds to my emails asking what the deal is. I love the way he acknowledges me posting to the jam saying he has ripped me off. I like how he has time to organize so get together before one of the DT shows and has time to reply to email by people who want to go to it, but refuses to acknowedge me at all. Do others think that it is all right for me to be pissed off about this? I sent my tapes to him within a week to him after we made a deal. He promised to get his tapes out that weekend. _10_ months later I have nothing. I know he was in an accident 3-4 months after we made the deal. Then he vanished for a few months and has now been back at least 2 months. I know that dubbing 2 videos requires a brain surgeon, but come on.... ----------- Do not trade with anyone by the name of Jeremy Haynes of Sue Moscardino or anyy one at 6 Kish Pl in Wallingofrd CT. He/She/They have ripped off many people. ----------- Well if you trade with Al Balkewicz, you risk being ripped off as well. Thanks for allowing me to vent. Did I mention that the only reason I traded with Al Balkewicz was because I decided to be nice since he kept hounding me (he had nothing I really wanted). I figured another DT video and Yngwie video would be ok... **** Pat Daugherty email_address_removed **** **** "Every breath leaves me one less to my last" --Dream Theater **** **** "That is not an option, Mr. Mulder" --X-Files **** **** Album of the week:Savatage - Dead Winter Dead **** GO REDSKINS! GO CAPITALS! GO BULLETS! GO BROWNS?? ------------------------------ Date: 11 Dec 95 12:55:33 EST From: Olaf Bode To: ytsejam Subject: YTSEJAM digest 1191 Message-ID: On Friday, 08 De.95, Richard Karsmarkers wrote : < <>> Here's my answer : YES SIR, OF COURSE there's a percfectly good explanation. The delivery can't be finished successfully, because you're not at home all the time : On Thursday 7 Dec + on Friday 8 Dec, so perhaps you're at home today. Make sure that a delivery is possible and than enjoy listening.( I send a parcel last Monday incl. the requested LITS tapes ) Lemme know, you rethorical Hurricane, why do you need so offensive words, am I the one who lost / forgot the e-mail adress or do you have nightmares, after reading the : DON'T TRADE WITH SUSAN ...... STUFF ? Welcome to the nightmare of reality !! To sort this out mail me _personally_ ! Sorry for sending this to the list, but I've forgotten his e-mail adress ! To all other Jammers on the list : I'm interested in trading audio - tapes, especially from the states, but also from all over the world. Send your lists and we can work out the details. BTW, thanx to the following Jammers : Prof. Holloway, Ties - gibt es schon was Neues ? - & Neil for succesful trades. Very special thanx to : Stephane - I'll send next week - in France. Later OH, ANOTHER(?) KRAUT FROM GERMANY DON'T ............! 'Coz in Germany they've noses ..... < G > ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 11 Dec 1995 10:07:37 -0800 (PST) From: Steve Borzilleri To: Dream Thespians Subject: Take The Time verses Message-ID: Here's what The Wind told me: Verse #1 - (just let me catch my breath) Mike Portnoy Verse #2 - (there is something that I feel) John Myung Verse #3 - (the unbroken spirit) John Petrucci Verse #4 - (I close my eyes) Kevin Moore Verse #5 - (for the first time in a long time) Dust Pan Ghost Bafu Vai ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 11 Dec 95 13:14:55 CDT From: Brandon Vaughn To: email_address_removed Subject: You do intend to eventually have DT on the DT mailing list?! Dear Jammers, I was just thinking about how far the Ytsejam has gotten off target. I know not much is going on with DT right now, but still it seems that all that is happening now is complaining. One problem is that there is such a diversity of people on here. That could be something good, but right now it is working against us. The more I think about it, though, there has always been complaining about the content, as long as I can remember.... --> Jam: Here is the tab for ..... Response: Please keep this music stuff off the Jam. Not all of us are musicians. --> Jam: What kind of equipment does .... use? Response: Didn't I just say we aren't musicians?! --> Jam: Have you heard of this band ....? Response: Please only talk about DT on this list. --> Jam: Let's talk about the meaning of this song..... Response: Read the FAQ or < the eternal silence > --> Jam: Here are my top five .... Response: Who cares?! And what does this have to do with DT? --> Jam: Should DT replace James? Response: Who cares?! Let's talk about the music. --> Jam: DT sing about God. Response: God bless you. --> Jam: Atheists don't believe in God. Response: God doesn't believe in atheists. My point is, although I wish we would just talk about DT, it seems that for every thread on this list, there are always a group of people who think it shouldn't be on there. I guess if everybody had their way, there wouldn't be anything to talk about! Go figure.... So on the one hand, diversity is good. But on the other hand, this is still the DT mailing list, and I'm pretty sure most of us signed up to learn and talk about DT, right? Maybe it would be a good idea if everybody thought about what this Jam _is_ supposed to be about. Maybe somebody who likes doing surveys could collect everybody's opinion on this. For example, here is the things I'm interested in discussing: 1) Guitar related issues regarding Petrucci and DT 2) Products available of DT (boots, songbooks, etc.) 3) Team-tabbing of DT songs not published 4) Bands that sound _similar_ to DT. Now, obviously, this is what _I_ want; not everyone would want this. But I imagine that there are probably clusters of people, who if they sat down and thought about it, have particular things they look for in the Jam. I don't mean as in a list of rules, but we ought to think is the reason why we read the Jam to look at top 5 band lists and religious debates? Now I have nothing against talking about religion. I am a Christian. And atheists don't intimidate me. But we have people talking and not listening, and in that case, it is a waste of time and energy. Nobody is convincing anybody of anything. I would be interested in knowing why others of you read the Jam. What are you interested in finding in the Jam? Maybe then we could get back on target and start talking about DT again! Is the commercial over with yet? Brandon Vaughn ** email_address_removed ** ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 11 Dec 95 13:20:31 EST From: steve matthews To: email_address_removed Subject: ACOS' Malmsteen section Message-ID: Just a reply to Lars' post about the Malmsteen section. I never said there was anything wrong with the section itself, it just sounds a lot like Yngwie. And in light of the new version of ACOS, the song works just as well without it. Sure, it would be cool in another song, but it just added to the string of riff s that made up the original ACOS, albeit they were cool riffs. It could be com pared to the intense solo sections of Metropolis, but they are put together in one coherent whole in of themselves. ACOS was peppered with a bunch of smalle r solo sections based on unrelated material, whereas now, it makes more sense a s a coherent whole. So there it is. I'm sure I'll catch some shit for this, s o, you know where to find me. later steve matthews ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 11 Dec 95 13:41:52 CST From: "Richard Karsmakers" To: email_address_removed Subject: Pop trivia stuff.. Message-ID: Hi there! I have a question. I need some help identifying some bits of song lyrics. If you recognise some of 'em, can you email me personally? They are supposed to be really difficult to identify, so it's quite a challenge! "Letters feast the smell of cooked flesh; last scent of sweet death" "I love you, I love you my little porno slut" Hint: The two above come, alphabetically, before "Gathering". "Rise through the gate, Iak Sakkath from depths beyond the sky" "Sadness, despair sometimes the things I cherish" "Love crushing, skulls smashing in the vice of Hell" Hint: The three above are between "Gathering" and "Orphanage". "Schizophrenia, paranoia, insane death rests in pain" Hint: This one comes between "Paradise Lost" and "Sodom". Might this be Sepultura? "Oooooh, ooooh, you've always been a good friend of mine till you said farewell" Hint: This one comes after "Uriah Heep". Cheers! email_address_removed.nl ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 11 Dec 1995 14:53:02 -0500 (EST) From: email_address_removed To: email_address_removed Subject: DT's tour Message-ID: >When DT go on their first tour, I don't think they should have t.v. screens >in the back because Queensryche already did that. They should have their own >thing, you know, Metallica had that weird stage, Aerosmith has that guy with >the lips, Poison had that hot chick on guitar(i'm kidding! C.C. DeVille >rules!)So heres my idea for DT: Live Donkeys! On Stage! Lots of them! Think >of the possibilities! How 'bout flyin' dogs? Steve Z ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 11 Dec 1995 15:20:45 -0500 From: email_address_removed To: email_address_removed Subject: Awake in '95 delay Message-ID: Hello Jammers, Effective 12-11-95, ALL orders for the Awake in Japan '95 video will delay in shipping until 12-26-95. The line at the post office is getting too long with everyone shipping out presents. I will continue to make the dubs, they just won't be sent out until 12-26. ALL orders I have received as of 12-9 have been sent out. Also I have hed problems with people sending me checks, so from now on ALL CHECKS WILL BE RETURNED!!!!! I'm sorry if this seems harsh, but that's my policy. Hope everyone has a good holiday season. Take care Scott Cook ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 11 Dec 1995 16:04:19 -0600 From: Adam Edwards To: "'Ytsejam'" Subject: RE: AD and Subconscious Message-ID: This is just one quick message before finals suck me away. I just want = to publicly thank Mike Bahr Mr. Metzger for AD and Subconscious, = respectively. These guys deserve a great deal of thanks from the DT = public. Hope you all have a cool Christmas and I'll hear from you all = in January. Adam ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 11 Dec 1995 14:05:01 PST From: Mark Smeets To: email_address_removed Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 1195 Message-ID: ** Reply to note from ytsejam@arastar.com 12/11/95 12:09pm +0800 Hey, here is somethin I don't think has been discussed about IRC yet, What the hell is everyone's nick names on it. I've met a few ppl but other than that, no one really knows eachother. Mine's "Stranger" Long story how I got the name, don't take it cause I'm admin at another diner and from my understanding there are already a few ppl on IRC with this name as well. We got enough Stranger's for the time being. Mark ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- ---------------------------- Are we the lucky ones saved for another day or are they the lucky ones who are taken away. Is that a hand on your shoulder from the Lord above or the Devil himself come to give you a shove. Fates Warning-Iron Maiden'90 email at email_address_removed ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 11 Dec 95 22:11:55 GMT+0000 From: Jaime Kimpton To: email_address_removed Subject: bah, humbug Message-ID: Irrelevant subject header, but who cares. Not me. :) I'm going home for Christmas vacation Wednesday, so I can ONLY be reached at email_address_removed from then until January 4th, when I return for a J-term (two weeks of watching movies auf Deutsch for 2.5 hours a day - cool!) and will have access to my school account. Repeat: FOR THE NEXT THREE WEEKS, I'M ONLY ON AOL! (That also means I won't be back on #ytsejam til then, either) Jaime the Dragon ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 11 Dec 1995 17:22:07 -0500 (EST) From: "Ryan P. Skadberg" To: email_address_removed Subject: Amusing Story of the Day .... Message-ID: Just called Ticketmaster to order tickets for the Birch Hill Show and the guy was a Dream Theater fan!! We exchanged email addresses and he'll prolly be getting on the mailing list soon :) I just thought it was hilarious. Well, that's it for now. Skadz -- _-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_- | | | | Ryan P. Skadberg | Web Sites I have created: | | email_address_removed | http://www.dreamt.org/ | | System Admin/Web Developer | http://www.stream.com/ | | Blue Sky, Inc. | http://www.ma.cancer.org/ | | http://www.bluesky.net/ | http://www.frontier.com/ | | | | -------------------------------------------------------------------------- | "We can hold for the future, but there may not be one" - Dream Theater | -_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_ ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 11 Dec 1995 17:35:26 -0500 From: email_address_removed (Marc Respass) To: email_address_removed Subject: No RS gig video :( Message-ID: Mike Bahr asks: > Why do you all think that DT chose not to release that video > of the RS gig? It was a covers gig... it would have sold at > LEAST as well as LIT did anyway. I think it SUCKS! I was really hoping they'd release it. For goodness sake. Didn't they think that people woulda wanted it? I mean, they put some of the tunes on ACOS. They're just teasing us. --Marc R ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 11 Dec 1995 17:35:31 -0500 From: email_address_removed (Marc Respass) To: email_address_removed Subject: loopholes in postings Message-ID: > Thanks for including that "corrections" loop hole. I think > I could mean: > > 1. spiritual change > 2. political change > 3. personal change Actually, Mike, that corrections was refering to what the band wrote. I thought that TTT was written in response to what the band was going thru after all the trouble with Mechanic records and WDADU and all. But, good use of a loophole :) --Marc R ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 11 Dec 1995 17:37:28 -0500 From: email_address_removed To: email_address_removed Subject: ATTN: AL BALKIEWICZ ATTENTION AL BALKIEWICZ, HEY AL ! THERE'S A PERSON ON THE JAM WHO YOU HAVE OWED SOME STUFF FOR ABOUT TEN MONTHS NOW !!!!!! WILL YOU PLEASE SEND IT TO HIM ALREADY !!!!!!!! Scott Cook (sorry for all the caps. I was trying to get his attention.) ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 11 Dec 95 17:27:42 CST From: email_address_removed To: email_address_removed Subject: ferret snot Message-ID: Hey all: he he. That subject usually draws some attention. This is just one guy talking, but I like all the different subjects and non-DT topics that everyone seems to get involved with in here. I disagree with the people that say this list should stick to DT related topics only. I live in Iowa, in the heartland of the U.S.A., where hardly anyone i've meet has heard of Dream Theater, and don't have a clue as to progressive rock is. This is the ONLY place i get to read and learn about Dream Theater and other progressive bands. If it weren't for you, I may not have known about ACOS. Which, by the way, hearing this song was the closest thing to a 'religious experience' that i've had since the first time i heard _metropolis_. Unfortunately, I was driving my car down I-80 at a nice cruising speed. I had just finished listening to_surrounded_, and damn near drove off the road. By the time _metropolis_ was finished playing, i had parked my car on the shoulder because i emotionally didn't have the strength to continue on. I was drained, but in a GOOD way. I'm still trying to recover from this phenomenon, but i'm afraid everytime i listen to DT, the symptoms keep coming back; cold sweats, bodily shakes, my brain thinking "how the hell is that possible", etc........ Sorry. I got kinda lost there for a minute. I wanted to say that i also enjoy reading about everyone's beliefs. I AM NOT, IN ANYWAY, A RELIGIOUS PERSON, but i do have a strong religous upbringing. I don't see any of the discussions here as being 'shoved down my throat', which if i thought they were, you'd most definitely hear about it.<> I enjoy reading most of what you folks write. The only time i get irritated is when i see an email in capital letters with swear words everywhere threating their unsubscription. Hey, if you don't like what you see, don't be a dumbass; either unsubscribe or come up with a new thread. Ranting and raving and cussing and carrying on like a 3 yr old won't change anything. It'll just make you feel and look like an idiot. Enough said. Talk to you later. Andy Miller ------------------------------ End of YTSEJAM Digest 1200 **************************