YTSEJAM Digest 1186 Today's Topics: 1) ooppps by E. Waldron 2) kevin moore by Edward Polzin 3) Rush "Tears" by Peter Beshuk 4) Leonard Part 6 by email_address_removed (Merritt) 5) 2 Birch Hill Tix? by email_address_removed 6) #ytsejam & circ breathing by zebrowski steven 7) update of a kind by email_address_removed (Cornholio) 8) YTSEJAM digest 1180 by "Steven Johnson," 9) huh? by email_address_removed (Cornholio) 10) Everon on the Web / NDTC by jerry@muc.de (jerry) 11) Shadow Gallery - Wow! by email_address_removed (Brian Anderson) 12) Where is it and give me some credit by email_address_removed (Marc Respass) 13) religion 'n' stuff by email_address_removed 14) The Lack of DT content by eyl7720 15) Re: DT's "tennis show".../Bafu - strange Brew by email_address_removed (Michael Coghlan ) 16) Mix by "Richard A. Rivera" 17) ONCE AND FOR ALL, STOP IT!!! by email_address_removed (Zack Gemmill) 18) Sorry to clutter the Jam with this, but.... by email_address_removed (The Ytsejammer from Hell) 19) Magna carta by Damon M. Fibraio 20) 1995's best by email_address_removed 21) IRC suggestions by email_address_removed 22) Re: Dream Theater Concert Info by jbako01 23) outer space is just a martini away by "Brian V. Cox" 24) European tours? (No DT content) by email_address_removed 25) Re: YTSEJAM digest 1179 by Stephen Bajzek 26) NuGgeTMaN by email_address_removed (The Ytsejammer from Hell) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Wed, 06 Dec 1995 12:17:34 -0600 From: E. Waldron To: email_address_removed Subject: ooppps Message-ID: sorry about that, i didn't mean to send that last message to the whole jam...brain fart. anyway due to circumstances beyond my control i had dropped off the face of the earth for a month and a half, i'm back, but my saved email was deleted in my absence... there was a jammer i'd been emailing with who had offered to send me a comp tape of some stuff he had, anyway I LOST YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS, if i sound familiar to you, will you please email me again, i didn't mean to just disappear!!!! elise email_address_removed ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 6 Dec 1995 12:26:01 -0600 (CST) From: Edward Polzin To: email_address_removed Subject: kevin moore Message-ID: I know this is really weird timing, but i was wondering if anyone is still makeing copies of the kevin moore demos still? anyone? I'm interested. later. Ed WWW: http://www.cen.uiuc.edu/~polzin/ DT: http://isr0939.urh.uiuc.edu/dt/dt.htm ------------------------------------------ You walk into a room to find only a  dead man, shot through the head, a  table, and fifty-three bicycles on  the floor. What happened? ------------------------------------------ - finger email_address_removed - - for the answer - ------------------------------------------  ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 6 Dec 1995 13:38:26 -0500 From: Peter Beshuk To: email_address_removed Subject: Rush "Tears" Message-ID: Hi, Someone on the Rush usergroup posted this address as a place to get a copy of the Dream Theater version of "tears". Any help would be greatly appreciated. --pete beshuk ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 06 Dec 1995 14:18:49 EST From: email_address_removed (Merritt) To: email_address_removed Subject: Leonard Part 6 Message-ID: A foreboding hello... In light of recent discussion, or maybe not so recent, here are a few members I would like to see added to DT for their next album: Prince, Mickey Dolenz, Lionel Ritchie, Kid, Davy Jones, Play, any two members of Menudo, Frankie Avalon, Beatmaster V, Danzig, and Peter Noon. Throw in King Diamond and Jesus (on triangle) to round out the crew and make some people on this list happy. New thread: if JP's hands were cut off, and he could choose have anyone's hands in history for his new ones, whose should they be? I say Leon Trotsky. I look forward to the next ytsejam tent revival. Maniacal laughter. Go bye-bye... Yep, I'll say it's so, Merritt ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 6 Dec 1995 14:21:17 -0500 From: email_address_removed To: email_address_removed Subject: 2 Birch Hill Tix? Message-ID: Looks like my boss actually came through - I got my name on the "guest list" through the radio station I work at, which means I don't have a need for the tix I bought through TicketBastard. So, basically, they're for sale. =) I'm only asking for what I paid - $12.50 + $4.55 in service charges (you believe that shit?!) so, it's $17.05 for one, or $34.10 for the pair. The tix are in the mail from TB, and I should have them fairly soon. If you're interested, let me know, via email. =) -HB ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 6 Dec 1995 14:24:05 -0500 (EST) From: zebrowski steven To: email_address_removed Subject: #ytsejam & circ breathing Message-ID: Now, I don't know the whole story about the deal where a certain ytsejammer was "kicked off" of #ytsejam, but it appears to me that one party in this dispute is trying to make amends, and the other is being petty. That makes me sad. About circular breathing and singers: this would be impossible to do when singing unless your vocal folds were actually IN your mouth. As I'm sure someone already mentioned, circular breathing occurs when a wind player fills his mouth with air, then uses his cheeks to expel the stored air into his instrument while inhaling through his nose. I saw a guy playing some kind of Balanese pipe doing it in my recording class. It was cool. Kenny G does it, too . oh, and uh, DT rules. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ___ ___ ___ _ _ ___ ___ "...all that I feel is honor and spite. | __| |_ _| | __| | V | | __| |_ | ...all I can do is to set it right." |__ | | | | __| \ / | __| / / Kevin Moore, PMU |___| |_| |___| V |___| |___|"Of all the stupid things I could have Steve Zebrowski email_address_removed thought this was the worst..." Joe Jackson, Hometown ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 06 Dec 1995 14:25:57 -0500 From: email_address_removed (Cornholio) To: email_address_removed Subject: update of a kind Message-ID: coming soon to a jam near you: wake up and smell the coffee part 4. BTW- I like that signature so much that I had to have it for myself!!! Later yo, Yiztik Jesus saves. Lindross scores on the rebound. ------------------------------ Date: 06 Dec 1995 13:27:13 GMT From: "Steven Johnson," To: email_address_removed Subject: YTSEJAM digest 1180 Message-ID: *** Reply to note of 12/06/95 11:18 I heard DT loves basketball!....I think that makes it a releated topic now! :) To the guy wanting to record the December shows: will that lead to dub sites for Jammers interested? Thanks! Steve "Those who swallow coal tend to shit diamonds." *************************************************************** "I ain't gonna be no repo man!" "Too late.....you already are." *************************************************************** ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 06 Dec 1995 14:46:53 -0500 From: email_address_removed (Cornholio) To: email_address_removed Subject: huh? Message-ID: >John got together with...Flea, Sebastain Bach, & Neil Pert > >Mike P. got together with....Daimond D, the singer for Queensrych, and the > bassist/singer for The Presidents of the United States of America b/e > he just looks cool. > >James got together with....Steve Vai, Nick Menza, ME on keyboards, and > the bassist for White Zombie ( you know why) > >Mike M. got together with....the 2nd guitarist for AC/DC (b/e he just looks > so lonely in those videos), the singer/guitarist for the Dave > Matthews Band & the singer/harmonica player for Blues Traveler, > the drummer for some really cool Latin band. who is Mike M. and whatever happened to Derek? Later folks and happy holidays and good luck with finals, yiztik Jesus saves. Lindross scores on the rebound. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 6 Dec 1995 20:11:00 +0100 From: jerry@muc.de (jerry) To: email_address_removed Subject: Everon on the Web / NDTC Message-ID: Hi there, As I mentioned in one of my last postings, I have a new favorite prog-band and they call themselves EVERON. I really recommend it to everybody, who likes DT and their more melodic, not to say softer songs. Since I found out about Ivanhoe through the net, I thought I do the same with EVERON. There's a short soundclip (about 1:45min. / 765kB) on my otherwise rather dull homepage at http://www.muc.de/~jerry/ Check it out and let me know if you like it. read you - jerry :--) ---------------------------------------------------------------- Andreas Schaefer email: jerry@muc.de "I am gross and perverted - I'm obsessed and deranged I have existed for years - but very little has changed" F.Zappa ---------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 6 Dec 1995 14:53:39 -0500 From: email_address_removed (Brian Anderson) To: email_address_removed Subject: Shadow Gallery - Wow! Message-ID: Hello, Add another, Holy Sh*t!! to the comments on Shadow Gallery. I just got Carved in Stone yesterday, and I'm totally blown away. If you haven't allready, go to your local CD/record store and order Shadow Gallery now. All I could think of when listening to it was: Images and Words. It's similar but different. Know what I mean? Anyway, oh yeah, I sold the tickets to the Malibu and Birch Hill shows, so I guess that means they're not for sale anymore :-) Bought tickets to the Outback Bowl (first in line, yay me, and Ted) I'm looking forward the the Holiday break. I'll be driving to Long Island for the DT shows on the 28th and 29th, and from there on to Florida for the Outback Bowl. Sorry, had to tell someone. Thanks for listening. -Brian Anderson ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 6 Dec 1995 14:47:50 -0500 From: email_address_removed (Marc Respass) To: email_address_removed Subject: Where is it and give me some credit Message-ID: "Richard Karsmakers" said, > Months ago I mailed a message to the list to the list to > the effect that I would really like to get some kind of > song-by-song description of what interesting stuff is > happening at which times in the song. That's a great idea. It is difficult sometimes to figure out exactly where the part is. Of course, you could give the bar number but that would be tedious to count ;). ---------------------------------------- >Regarding a post from email_address_removed (Lars Hellsten) which was .. > >Your whole post reminded me of something I read in some > guitar mag a while >ago. I'm paraphrasing and it is a little > corny but... >"Technique is the means that let's the heart > fly free" > > Gee, thanks, you managed to sum up 100 or so lines in my > post in 1 line. :) Doh. I hate it when that happens. Hey man. That was me who said that. And you're welcome :) --Marc R ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 06 Dec 1995 14:36:57 -0600 (CST) From: email_address_removed To: email_address_removed Subject: religion 'n' stuff Message-ID: Date sent: 6-DEC-1995 14:27:27 Hello all, There's been some talk about religion lately. Those who know me will tell you that whenever religion comes up in conversation I need to put in my 2 cents. I applaud my fellow athiests. They know that when a religion discussion arises and we speak our minds we get gunned down. That's not right. All you severely-religious Christians should check out the Athiest Manifesto on the Web so you can see what we're all about. Sorry, I don't have access to the address at the moment. I know that some of you will be mad that myself and other people bring topics other than DT on the jam. As much as I love DT's music (there one of the few bands today that can actually be called musicians) I realize that there's more to life that DT. What is the problem with discussing topics other than Some band from New York? I know there's lots of other college students on this list, and as adults of above average intelligence we should talk about a variety of topics amongst ourselves besides the music we listen to. That is all. ________________________________________________________________________________ Debbie Seeger University of Wisconsin-Oshkosh Music Major (Recording Technology emphasis) "Here are the studio rules: 1) Don't piss off Deb, 2) EVER." -Deb's collegue BJ, amending the UWO recording studio rules after he had to hear her complain about the last band she recorded. Internet - email_address_removed ________________________________________________________________________________ ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 6 Dec 1995 15:50:07 -0500 (EST) From: eyl7720 To: email_address_removed Subject: The Lack of DT content Message-ID: All the people who keep writing about Rush and other bands that are obviously not DT should send each other private e-mail or start there own little fan club. I personally hate every band that is talked about on this list (except DT) and it is really annoying to have to filter through every damn comment on this thing. And whoever said Satan is God's son is a fucking idiot. You may believe that but that doesn't make it right. That's the first time I ever heard that and I have to say I will be laughing for some time over it. (ha ha). That's another thing on the "DT Mailing list", all this religion shit. I'm not anti religious but I'm sick of watching people argue over God on this thing. And to all the fucks who got on my case for moshing, all I did was ask if there was mosh pits at DT concerts. Suddenly I'm some type of evil murderer who's out dismember innocent people at a concert. Has anyone ever said "I'm going to kick your ass" while playing an opponent in some type of sport? It's the same fucking way. Okay, I'm through bitching, anybody know how long it takes to get to Birch Hill from D.C. and if there is a get together? POLITICALLY CORRECT SUCKS Loot ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 6 Dec 1995 13:19:26 -0800 From: email_address_removed (Michael Coghlan ) To: email_address_removed Subject: Re: DT's "tennis show".../Bafu - strange Brew Message-ID: Ytsedan wrote: > >(Bafu, you're wacked out, big time...) > >ROTFLMAO... > >high-larious... Yes Ytsedan you are correct, the guy is funny, Bafu, why that name anyway? I was probably dodging flames when this question was asked before. Yes Bafu, you're alright in my book but don't let it go to your head,,, oops too late! Michael C. or by the way GOD BLESS! ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 6 Dec 1995 16:21:25 -0500 (EST) From: "Richard A. Rivera" To: Dream Theater Subject: Mix Message-ID: I just made a mix of DT for a friend who really liked the "The Big Medley" (especially In The Flesh) and the beginning part of ACOS. Here's the set list (tell me what you guys think): Side A ------ -The Big Medley -6:00 -Mission: Impossible (from "Lost In The Sky") -Innocence Faded -O Holy Night (AD) -Take The Time -Lifting Shadows - L.I.E. (AD) Side B ------ -Metropolis pt.1 -Space-Dye Vest -Surrounded -Bad (AD) -Zeppelin Medley -The Silent Man -Eve *I thought about putting the live version of Learning To Live on there (why do I like the live version so much better than the studio version?) but I didn't want to overload him. Maybe next time. Later. Richie ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 6 Dec 95 13:19:34 PST From: email_address_removed (Zack Gemmill) To: email_address_removed Subject: ONCE AND FOR ALL, STOP IT!!! Message-ID: Could we *please* take the theology discussions to email. That includes the idiot who complained about Mike C. posting religious stuff to the 'jam. Do you know how ironic that is??? This stuff could end up taking the 'jam down worse than the BM "thread" did for a while. BTW, the guy who said that Satan and Christ are _brothers_ is a Mormon. That is Mormon "theology." At best, it is tangentially related to Christian theology. > >Michael C.! > >Since you seem to be the big smarty pants about God and everything, one = > >would think that you would at least know the most basic of all religious = > >information. Christ is not God. He is God's son.=20 > > God had two sons, Jesus and Satan. They each had a plan. God chose = > >Jesus's plan so he was sent down to earth, and Satan was cast out. I = > >figured you'd know at least that much... Christ is God?...Sheesh! > > God then skip the next few lines. Alright, I'm not trying to rehash something > old, but in this case it has to be said. You, my friend, are the > smartie-pants!! Get your facts straight, and don't yell at others for having > the RIGHT facts! Christ IS God's son! Yet, on the other hand, Christ is ALSO > equal with God and IS God! Zach (no, I don't belong to the LDS church) I know I've flamed (and flammed) people in the past for complaining about 'jam content, but this has the potential of being a recurring phenomenon if we don't nip it here. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 6 Dec 1995 15:33:13 -0700 From: email_address_removed (The Ytsejammer from Hell) To: email_address_removed Subject: Sorry to clutter the Jam with this, but.... Message-ID: >Later, > > Al Balkiewicz > vocals, Half Naked > I just have to know. Is your band actually half naked when you perform? Now THAT would be an interesting show. >John got together with...Flea, Sebastain Bach, & Neil Pert John should get together with ME, John Myung, James LaBrie and Kevin Moore.(No offense, Derek, just that Kevin's name popped into my head first. >Mike P. got together with....Daimond D, the singer for Queensrych, and the > bassist/singer for The Presidents of the United States of America b/e > he just looks cool. Did you know that the POTUSA guy plays a one string bass? The guitarist has a 3 string. >James got together with....Steve Vai, Nick Menza, ME on keyboards, and > the bassist for White Zombie ( you know why) NIck Menza's cool, never heard (Steve) Vai, or you, and why? I mean, she's got GREEN HAIR. >Mike M. got together with....the 2nd guitarist for AC/DC (b/e he just looks > so lonely in those videos), the singer/guitarist for the Dave > Matthews Band & the singer/harmonica player for Blues Traveler, > the drummer for some really cool Latin band. Mike M??? Did DT change members again??? >Well jammers what do you think? If you have any input please tell me. > Okay...lemme see.... John Petrucci, DMB drummer (the one that looks exactly like Dennis Chambers) ummm.....Let's get eclectic...Cliff Burton (R.I.P) and......thazall. JOHN (Mike) Myung, Mozart on the keys, if they buy me a huge drumset, then I'll drum for 'em and.........Shoot...Marty Friedman. (Instrumental band, BTW) Man! This is hard. It's hard to imagine them with anybody but themselves. I give up. >**************************************************************************** >*HAIL TO THE REDSKINS-HAIL VICTORY-BRAVES ON THE WARPATH-FIGHT FOR OLD D.C.* >**************************************************************************** > > -----DON`T MISTAKE LACK OF TALENT FOR GENIUS----- > >**************************************************************************** >* GO BOSTON BRUINS * >**************************************************************************** > >Roland Theysohn(roland.theysohn@protel.de) > But wait! What happened to that kraut from Germany???? >1. If I see one more Bafu-ass-kissing post I'm gonna get sick. It was >> mildly cute for the first 1000 posts. Let's move on. (|) <-----Bafu's ass. Do you reeeeeaaalllly wanna kiss it? ||| >Bafu rules. >God rules. >Thus, Bafu is God. Q.E.D. (No offense to the more devout Christians >on the list. I'm a Christian, myself.) God is love. Love is blind. Ray Charles is blind. Ray Charles is God. >Its about time someone spoke up about how ridiculous some of the >digests are.(Divine, Christopher) I get them every day, and they are all >full of useless junk- except for maybe one or two people will actually write >in something worthwhile (you know, like DT related material on this digest >which happens to be about Dream Theater.) I'm not talking about those nit >picking bastards that continuously discuss the band's mistakes. Wake up you >dumb idiots- although they are some of the best musicians in the progressive >realm- they are human and occasionally screw up while performing. Sorry, but when you see a pig flying around do you pass it off as normal? BTW, Dream Theater is definately not human. They're either gods or robots. Or maybe they come from a planet near the one I came from. G-g-g-g-g-g-g-goodbye. Ben Laussade ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 6 Dec 95 17:33:30 EST From: Damon M. Fibraio To: email_address_removed Subject: Magna carta Message-ID: Can somebody send me Magna Carta's phone number or email address? Come to think of it, can anybody send me any prog rock band's record company's email or phone number? Still trying to put together bands for my new progressive rock show, and I don't have the money to go out and buy all this music. And since I work for a radio station, and these bands will get airplay, I think that the record companies won't mind sending me CDs. Thanks for the help. Email me privately at email_address_removed so that we don't clutter the Jam. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 6 Dec 1995 17:44:02 -0500 From: email_address_removed To: email_address_removed Cc: email_address_removed Subject: 1995's best Message-ID: well, someone mentioned this recently, so i figured i'd jump on this fast. the 10 best things i heard in 1995. note: some of these albums may not be from 1995, but i heard them this year, so that's what matters. 10) acos- good album 9) milo z- funkin hard 8) korn- this is what i wish nirvana could be like 7) symphonic pink floyd- bizarre, but impressive 6) mike bahr's acoustic dreams- whether i like some of the tunes on it or not isn't the issue- it offered dt to us in a way previously unimaginable. 5) prince- the gold experience- he's back, i hope. 4) cyborgasm 2- the edge of the bed; "audio erotica". definitely the most interesting and maybe most controversial pick 3) asa nisi masa- drums, bass, violin experimental stuff. very neat 2) screaming headless torsos. i haven't said enough about them and the number one reason i won't become an account this year..... 1) alanis morissette- jagged little pill. she's 21, she's can't quite say "dinner" and "mother" right, she sounds weird, and her harmonica playing is horrible!! long live alanis.... thank you. dtmk ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 6 Dec 1995 17:22:24 +0000 From: email_address_removed To: email_address_removed Subject: IRC suggestions Message-ID: > Lemme know if you're getting sick of my bitching. > > My mind is made up about Nuggetman. > > I went to IRC today and NugGeTMaN was there. I guess he wasn't > paying attention, so I sent him a /msg that said, and I quote myself: > "Ummmmmm...hi." > 10 seconds later I was kicked, banned and he was ignoring me. Why > won't you try to sort this out, Eric? I know I'm getting sick of being > pissed off all the time. I visited the IRC #ytsejam once and found it to just be a place where people kicked each other off over and over again. Someone was kicked off the channel at least every 5 seconds during the time I was on. Nuggetman was in charge and had several bots there. He appears to have decided that he will be king of the IRC, and he appears to be getting off on that. Well, good for him. There are solutions. Ben, Bafu, and the rest of you who want to chat on the IRC (and I would enjoy that also provided some people showed up and it was a civilized place), you need to email each other and determine a name for your channel that is NOT recognizable as a ytsejam channel. Do not post the name on this list, but instead have interested people write to you and get the name of the channel personally. Then, you show up and set the channel up, and you will be in charge. Ban nuggetman from your channel and you are all set. Actually, banning him shouldn't be necessary, because there are thousands of channels, and as long as the name and subject line have nothing to do with DT, how is he gonna guess which one is you? If he does find us, we can make up a new channel. Ben, you can take charge by mailing out to a few people you know are interested (Bafu, me, etc) and choose a channel name and time. You go, set it up, and we can arrive. Anyone else interested can email Ben and get the name (well, don't give it to Nuggetman). The other option is for some enterprising soul to learn how to create a bot and have it keep the channel safe from marauders (ie, it keeps the channel open permanently and Nuggetman is permanently banned), and then the name of the channel can be posted to the list. I don't really know that much about IRC, but I'm sure someone on this list could help us - if only they would come forward! Mike Stover email_address_removed http://home.eznet.net/~spider/spider.htm "He who can copy, can do" - Leonardo Da Vinci ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 6 Dec 1995 19:07:58 -0500 (EST) From: jbako01 To: email_address_removed Subject: Re: Dream Theater Concert Info Message-ID: On Wed, 6 Dec 1995, Corporate Community Relations wrote: > Pre-Show Ytsejam Get-Together: > ============================= > > Al Balkiewicz is coordinating the pre-show party. Contact him at > "email_address_removed" for more information. > It's nice to see that Al has time to 'coordinate' a pre-show get together, yet he doesn't "have time" to complete a tape trade for me (AND for Pat Daugherty, AND who knows who else) for almost a year now. Just an obervation, Al. I WANT MY TAPE. And I'd like it before the Jersey show (yeah, I just might go there as well as to the Malibu). James Bako email_address_removed Polytechnic University Brooklyn, New York ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 6 Dec 1995 18:16:18 -0600 (CST) From: "Brian V. Cox" To: email_address_removed Subject: outer space is just a martini away Message-ID: > From: email_address_removed > Subject: thought industry > > i just talked to maria at metal blade records, and this is for any thought > industry. fans. here goes.... > > <><><><><><><><><> Brian V. Cox (email_address_removed) <><><><><><><><><><> <>Rush|Dream Theater|Queensryche|King's X|Echolyn|King Crimson|Voivod><> "You have to systematically create confusion - it sets creativity free. Everything that is contradictory creates life." -Salvador Dali, 1980 "The man or woman who is insensitive to the spell of this performance really isn't fit to live in civilized society for it is one of the wonders of the world" -Frank Granville Barker <><><><><><><><><>DAT Taper/Trader - Email me for list<><><><><><><><><> <><><><><><><><><> http://http.tamu.edu:8000/~bvc8995 <><><><><><><><><> ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 6 Dec 1995 20:00:52 -0500 From: email_address_removed To: email_address_removed Subject: European tours? (No DT content) Message-ID: Hey, jammers! I'm going to be on a trip to Paris with my class the week of Spring break In April, and I was wondering if anyone knows if any cool bands are going to be playing. The only band I can think of that should be supporting a new album in the spring is Pantera, but I doubt they will be in France that week. later------------------------------Brian ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 6 Dec 1995 21:26:01 -0500 (EST) From: Stephen Bajzek To: Multiple recipients of list Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 1179 Message-ID: Excerpts from mail.ytsejam: 6-Dec-95 Re: YTSEJAM digest 1179 by Mark email_address_removed > Zonder is subtle but I always thought that ZOnder was better than Portnoy. > Portnoy is amzing yes but after listening to No EXit, shit, I gotta say that m > y > vote goes for ZOnder. Its the way he plays, I mean, He's doin one beat with th While I agree that the drumming on No Exit is really awesome, and that Mark Zonder is an amazing drummer (my personal favorite, better than portnoy IMO) I have to point out that Steve Zimmerman does the drums on No Exit. Zonder didn't join until the next album, Perfect Symmetry. -Max Anton Max Keyboards, Aepithex MadMax+@cmu.edu ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 6 Dec 1995 19:50:12 -0700 From: email_address_removed (The Ytsejammer from Hell) To: email_address_removed Subject: NuGgeTMaN Message-ID: >I am really pissed right now. For no reason at all, he banned me from IRC. >I don't know what his problem is. But whatever it is, something should be >done to control him. The least we have to do is to get his fucking bot >yTSeJaM out of there! At less you change my mind Nuggetman, I believe that >you are a complete loser! And so does other #ytsejammers! I was aware of this. I went in a couple days ago, and while I was there a bot named augie came in. It changed mine, Augie's (Heath Augustover) and Aurora's (Jan Van Huizen) mode to +b, which means that we are banned from #ytsejam. I have yet to find out why. I also recived this from NuGgeTMaN. The first part is an attempt at a truce, but for reasons you already know of, I don't quite accept it yet... >Dood don't worry about it...the Channel Idea is now null and void and we >have something WAY better for DT fans...look for my post on the jam! He said that. I have noooo idea what it means, but knowing my luck, it will probably be on the Jam before this gets here. Oh well. Seeya. Ben Laussade ------------------------------ End of YTSEJAM Digest 1186 **************************