YTSEJAM Digest 1178 Today's Topics: 1) by email_address_removed 2) (U)Hats by "Steven Johnson," 3) Bad Traders List by Michael Backof 4) Trevor Rabin/DT NOPE by Michael Backof 5) Recommended Prog-Metal by Michael Backof 6) Re: Kev's Keys by email_address_removed (Michael Bradley) 7) stuff as always by email_address_removed 8) RE: YTSEJAM digest 1173 by "Devine, Christopher" 9) (U)Various thoughts.... by "Steven Johnson," 10) DT in Japan video by onion@pangea.ca (ian mowatt) 11) (U)More stuff.... by "Steven Johnson," 12) various DTC and NDTC by LRW 13) Mariah Carey as DT vocalist??? by Joe Satriani 14) Awake in Japan Dub by email_address_removed (Ryan Inverso) 15) #ytsejam by Steve Borzilleri 16) king's x mailing list by kristopher long 17) Re: YTSEJAM digest 1175 by email_address_removed 18) Re: Kevin's Gear by email_address_removed (Aaron Rom) 19) Found the DT video guy by onion@pangea.ca (ian mowatt) 20) The Growing Collection by email_address_removed 21) Re: YTSEJAM digest 1176 by email_address_removed (Robert Paul Andrews) 22) I CHANGED MY MIND. by email_address_removed (The Ytsejammer from Hell) 23) Re: Extreme mailling list by email_address_removed 24) Revolution - Part II by Mr Who? 25) Re: Lentchner's comments by email_address_removed (MR STEVE P SWEENEY) 26) Color Threads in........ by email_address_removed ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 04 Dec 1995 15:30:51 -0500 (EST) From: email_address_removed To: email_address_removed Message-ID: i'm back! please resubscribe me to the digest. i miss it too much to stay away any longer. thanks Jason Russell ------------------------------ Date: 04 Dec 1995 14:30:14 GMT From: "Steven Johnson," To: email_address_removed Subject: (U)Hats Message-ID: The hats sound pretty cool! Are these things fitted or adjustable? Also, listening to LATM lately (Bombay Vindaloo) and I can't stand the jerk sreaming "Play Status Seeker" at the start of the tune. Someone should've cold cocked him to shut him the hell up! O.K...so it's a violent response. But was the guy thinking he was in a Las Vegas lounge where they took requests?LATER- Steve *************************************************************** "I ain't gonna be no repo man!" "Too late.....you already are." *************************************************************** ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 4 Dec 1995 15:40:48 -0500 (EST) From: Michael Backof To: email_address_removed Subject: Bad Traders List Message-ID: Hello Jammers, About 6 months ago Mike Burstin started a bad trader list which has the name and information of the bad trader and opposite of it a list of the people who have reported the person to the list. This way it helps to prevent abuse of the list. email_address_removed was his e-mail address the last time I checked, he should have a recent copy of the list around. Later, Mike ************************************************************************ *Mike Backof **** email_address_removed *** http://www.gl.umbc.edu/~mbacko1 * *Inferno Home Page ******* http://www.gl.umbc.edu/~mbacko1/inferno.html* *Unsigned & Indie Label Bands Page ******************* Support ********* *http://www.gl.umbc.edu/~mbacko1/munsign.html ****** Local Bands ******* ************************************************************************ ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 4 Dec 1995 15:44:37 -0500 (EST) From: Michael Backof To: email_address_removed Subject: Trevor Rabin/DT NOPE Message-ID: Hello Jammers, This is just a quick comment on the Trevor Rabin discussion. I really enjoy Trevor Rabin's music with Yes, but it pales in comparison to the early 70's incarnations of Yes which were so damn good, it is frightening. Trevor infused just a bit more pop into the band than it needed IMO. Dream Theater doesn't need him. And he is off writing music scores now after playing on a couple of tracks from Michael Jackson's His-Story (or whatever its called). Later, Mike ************************************************************************ *Mike Backof **** email_address_removed *** http://www.gl.umbc.edu/~mbacko1 * *Inferno Home Page ******* http://www.gl.umbc.edu/~mbacko1/inferno.html* *Unsigned & Indie Label Bands Page ******************* Support ********* *http://www.gl.umbc.edu/~mbacko1/munsign.html ****** Local Bands ******* ************************************************************************ ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 4 Dec 1995 16:08:17 -0500 (EST) From: Michael Backof To: email_address_removed Subject: Recommended Prog-Metal Message-ID: Hello Jammers, Someone asked, so here are the Top Notch Prog-Metal bands out their IMO 1. Dream Theater (goes without saying) 2. Fates Warning (check out No Exit or Perfect Symmettry) 3. Queensryche (my favorite ones are Rage for Order and The Warning) 4. Shadow Gallery (carved in Stone), great album, only weak spot is lyrics (otherwise I'd rank them up there with DT) 5. Threshold (Psychedelicatessan, Wounded Land) - one of my current favs, they have elements from heavier to lighter metal, all musicians are solid and can trade licks with the best of them, lyrics are great IMO, the only weak spot is that the vocalist is average to above-average, not fantastic. 6. Angra (Angels Cry) - great musical ability, excellent vocalist, lyrics are above average. Very melodic metal. 7. Leger De Main - some of the best technical (non-thrash) that I've heard, above average female vocalist, the lyrics are Rush-like and the only conplaint is that sometimes the lyrics and the vocalist's delivery can be heartless on a couple of the songs. 8. Saga (Generation 13) - This band has crafted THE concept album for the year. It is well composed, contains many styles, and is a full step forward for this band who has been around for years and have made an effort to change their sound. It scored really high in Mike Bahr's poll so many Jammers must agree with me on this one. These are the absolute musts IMO. There are several other solid bands: Inferno, Divine Regale, Braindance, Process, Visionary, Ivanhoe In prog-rock check out: Boud Deun (more of a jazz fusion band, they smoke on their instruments) Happy Family (heavy technical fusion, some experimental stuff) Marillion (one of the best, if not the best Neo-Progressive rock band) Yes (but stay away from that Rabin stuff... ) King Crimson (you like NIN try THRAK, you like Peter Gabriel try Discipline, you like heavy guitar-rock try Red, you like classic rock try In the Court of the Crimson King, something for everyone!) Ozric Tentacles (Erpland, Live Underslunky are the way to go), this is a funky psychedelic-metal band. You can find info on many of these bands by checking out my Homepage and going into the music links. http://www.gl.umbc.edu/~mbacko1 THE Homepage http://www.gl.umbc.edu/~mbacko1/munsign.html Unsigned and Indie Label Bands Page If you want to get your band on the Indie label bands page e-mail me for details, won't cost you a thing, I just want to hear your music so I can review it. email_address_removed Later, Mike ************************************************************************ *Mike Backof **** email_address_removed *** http://www.gl.umbc.edu/~mbacko1 * *Inferno Home Page ******* http://www.gl.umbc.edu/~mbacko1/inferno.html* *Unsigned & Indie Label Bands Page ******************* Support ********* *http://www.gl.umbc.edu/~mbacko1/munsign.html ****** Local Bands ******* ************************************************************************ ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 4 Dec 1995 16:30:32 -0500 From: email_address_removed (Michael Bradley) To: email_address_removed Subject: Re: Kev's Keys Message-ID: Hey guys, To the guy who wrote: "Well, I am not totally sure what synthesizers Kevin used on the LIt video, I didn't see it yet. But why in hell would you cover the logos on your gear. That's like hiding your guitar so that nobody knows what it is. Come on." This could be a contract thing. I didn't notice that he covered them over, but if he were hypothetically endorsed by, say, Yamaha, and he really prefers Korg, he might cover up the brands so as not to lose an endorsement with Yamaha. I've seen guitarists do this in publicity photos before. Another possibility is that no company endorsed him at the time of LiT and he didn't want to give anyone free advertising. That may seen petty, but it's big money for a company if their brand appears on a video like that. Just my .02 cents. LAter guys! ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 4 Dec 1995 17:03:37 -0500 From: email_address_removed To: email_address_removed Cc: email_address_removed Subject: stuff as always Message-ID: thanks to ken for the yes info. re; circular breathing- i believe winton marsalis can do it, and yes, it is really sick and impossible to do. to quote from "godel escher, bach", it's like playing 60 games of chess blindfolded SIMULTANEOUSLY and WINNING THEM ALL!!!! i think kevin moore used a roland jv-900 as one of his boards, i forgot they other he used. there's a small article on him in a keyboard magazine. i forgot the date, but i think it's april 94 (the frank zappa tribute issue). i know that in the article, he mentioned that he wasn't too familiar with midi and some other stuff. tori amos tour dates- yay!!!! too bad i live in america, and not the uk!!! also, you english bastards are all telling us about seeing satriani. damn you, infidels!!! why isn't he HERE??? well, at least dt will be. :-) ps, if anyone finds out when she (tori) will be in the us, let us (or me, at least) know. i found this really twisted musical piece today called "voicepiece" that i will send here shortly. any comments, or whatever, lemme know. thanks. david, the magical kobayashi ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 04 Dec 95 13:24:00 PST From: "Devine, Christopher" To: ytsejam Subject: RE: YTSEJAM digest 1173 Message-ID: I'm getting sick of reading about issues in this forum that are in no FUCKING way related to DT. If you want to rip into and insult other bands, this is not the place for it, I thought that this was a newsgroup related to DT and other related Prog subjects.I can also not beleive how many times this comes out in a DAY, and how often it's the same people rehashing the same old stuff. Sure, I like to communicate and listen to others ideas on the 'jam, but if you're on this subject enough times for this newsletter to come out 5 times a day, there is definetely(sp) something wrong, if you're a student, when the hell do you study? If you're hooked up at work, does your boss know how much time is spent on this? Did you ever see William Shatner on Saturday Night Live, when he's at the Star Trek convention? He walks up to the microphone and tells all the fruitcakes in the audience "get a life, it's just a TV show" It's just a band, yes they're fantastic, I've got all of their discs, I've seen them from the front row of the Avalon in Boston, They all rule on the respective instruments, but they are just a band, mortal, fallable, I bet their worst mistakes are probably 10 times better than most musicians best tries, but lets end this bickering of "whos best". Let's try to calm down, and use this list for more constructive efforts, or change the name of this forum to something else, for the name is becoming misleading.I know I've probably made many opponents with this statement, but I've listened to all of you, and now it's your turn to listen, to yourselves. ------------------------------ Date: 04 Dec 1995 16:02:16 GMT From: "Steven Johnson," To: email_address_removed Subject: (U)Various thoughts.... Message-ID: Todd (writing under Arthur Pendragn's address) asked about a midwest convention. E- mail me (my firewall doesn't permit me to make initial contact) regarding ideas. I'm in Chicago and I know of a couple others on the list who're from here, too. I think it'd kick ass to set-up a gathering here or in a nearby city the band visits. Bafu....where'd you decide to use the name Hubris in your anecdote? Excellent choice for the way you characterized the woman. Roland (the Kraut from Germany) .... Say it loud!!: Hail to the REDSKINS!!!! BTW, Michael Coghlan is a BIG Dallas fan!! (Sorry, Mike. Had to let him know!!):) Please post the Extreme mailing list address!! THANX!! Jill had an extremely interesting answer to Kyle's circular breathing question. I am a singer and woodwind player. I am quite familiar with the circular breathing technique for instruments (force are out of Louie Armstrong cheeks while inhaling thru nose). But to do that for singing? I'd love to see a demonstration because bringing air INTO your lungs while forcing air OUT of your lungs (which is necessary for singing...period) seems to be a contradictory act that can't happen. Are there tapes, books, Ripley's museums with examples? I'd love to learn this just to freak people out!!! :) -- This is a serious inquiry, not sarcasm.....really. LATER- Steve ILLINI 75, Duke's sorry, ACC, weak-assed hoops squad 65!!!! Chris Collins fouls out with 7 points!!! Good thing he didn't join DT (it IS the same Chris Collins, right??)! *************************************************************** "I ain't gonna be no repo man!" "Too late.....you already are." *************************************************************** ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 4 Dec 1995 16:11:34 -0600 From: onion@pangea.ca (ian mowatt) To: email_address_removed Subject: DT in Japan video Message-ID: Hey jammers, Sorry to clog up this list with this, but it is DT related. IMPORTANT!!!! There was a guy who was offering to tape a pay per view DT concert from Japan. I had corresponded with him a couple of times. I believe his name is Scott. I just changed providers and accidentally deleted my old mail. If Scott (?) could mail me, or if anyone has his address, please repond privately. Many thanks to my fellow jammers! ********************************************************** * Ian Mowatt onion@pangea.ca * * * * * * * * "It's a small world, but I wouldn't want to paint it." * ********************************************************** ------------------------------ Date: 04 Dec 1995 16:11:16 GMT From: "Steven Johnson," To: email_address_removed Subject: (U)More stuff.... Message-ID: I don't wanna see MTV play DT because they'd overplay them. I remember getting sick of some really good songs in college because MTV played 'em too much. Now that I'm in the real world, I don't listen to radio or watch much MTV ('cept for B&B) so I can get sick of my fav. songs at my own pace, not MTV's. I think air-time would be monumental for DT's financial success, so if they do make it there more often I'd be happy. But being on MTV isn't the greatest thing for a band. Lots of people watch "America's Funniest Home Videos" and I don't want DT there, either. This is a quick plea for people to follow grammatix a bit better. Spelling, etc., isn't that big of a deal....I know this is an international list. But when people don't use capital letters, commas, periods, spaces...that kind of stuff, it REALLY makes it hard to read. Any some of these posts actually have some excellent insights. Just a thought. :) After this past West Coast trip, everyone should know that Michael Jordan has returned to 94% form. BEWARE!!! And if Rodman decides to put his uniform on (PLEEEEEEZZZZ put SOMEthing on!!!) and play hoops, it could be scary. Mr. Stern can send necessary trophies and hardware to: Chicago Bulls c/o Mike and Scottie Sheri Bertow Center Deerfield, IL 60624 Do you think DT would sing the national anthem as a barber shop quintet to open the NBA finals? LATER- Steve *************************************************************** "I ain't gonna be no repo man!" "Too late.....you already are." *************************************************************** ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 4 Dec 1995 16:14:10 -0700 From: LRW To: 'ytsejam' Subject: various DTC and NDTC Message-ID: A small request... Go listen to the beginning of Innocence Faded. Right at the beginning, = (Animation...) Does anyone hear a phone ringing? AHHHHRGGGGG!!! I can't stand it. Whenever I listen to that song, I always get an urge = to go answer a phone. Michael C.! Since you seem to be the big smarty pants about God and everything, one = would think that you would at least know the most basic of all religious = information. Christ is not God. He is God's son.=20 God had two sons, Jesus and Satan. They each had a plan. God chose = Jesus's plan so he was sent down to earth, and Satan was cast out. I = figured you'd know at least that much... Christ is God?...Sheesh! TRIVIA!!! Who did the soundtrack for PCU? The winner will get mentioned in my next post:) ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 4 Dec 1995 18:43:42 -0500 (EST) From: Joe Satriani To: email_address_removed Subject: Mariah Carey as DT vocalist??? Message-ID: What do you think?? Mariah doing DT. She has a much better range than James and she is better looking (sorry James). They would sell a million more tickets to their shows also. My roomate as DT's rhythm guitarist? How about Tony MacAlpine on keys? What are you people talking about? I have seen posts in which people are suggesting second guitarists and new vocalists for DT. I have seen questions like "Should DT keep James?", and "Does DT need Derek?" etc. Did anybody notice that DT kicks ass the way they are now? Stop the insanity. No, Marty Friedman is not joining DT. Metallica is not covering LIE or the MIRROR. Stop making these ridiculous statements. ************************************************************************ * "Da Da Da...Da Da Da...Da Da Da...DaDaDa...DaDa...Da...DaDa..." * * - The Ytse Jam (DT) * * * * "Happy Birthday to John..." * * - DT (from WAKE UP) * * * * "YYYYYYAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAYYYYYYYYYYY" * * - James LaBrie (from HOME SWEET HOME, after UAGM) * ************************************************************************ ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 4 Dec 95 18:45:25 EST From: email_address_removed (Ryan Inverso) To: email_address_removed Subject: Awake in Japan Dub Message-ID: Hi, Will the person who is making the dub of the Awake in Japan Video please e-mail me..I am interested in obtaining this video and lost the info on how to get it. Thanks, Ryan Inverso ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 4 Dec 1995 16:00:18 -0800 (PST) From: Steve Borzilleri To: Dream Thespians Subject: #ytsejam Message-ID: > From: "Paul W. Cashman" > Subject: Further adventures of #ytse and #ben > > > It's time to say a few words about #ytsejam. I second the time. > It's a lot easier to have a fun, casual conversation in #ytsejam about > DT... > when users and bots (like YtSeJaM) aren't mucking around with channel > operator privileges, banning people, kicking them off the channel, etc. Really? I thought it was kind of fun only saying half a sentence, getting kicked off, and then having to come back to finish. It adds a genuine air of suspense when someone is in the middle of saying something, and gets booted out of the room. Makes you wonder what they'll say if they have the nerve to get back into the room, finish their comment, then tell off their booter. "Whoah! Bafu just got kicked AGAIN! Wonder what he'll say when he comes back in?" "Hey, look at that! D-Man just kicked out ANOTHER person. I wonder what they'll say to D-Man when/if they decide to come back in and face some more of this crazy shit?" > Ben is too quick to play around on IRC with op privileges (inviting > people from other channels in just to kick them off and laugh about it > is an 8-yr. old's prank, not a 13-yr. old's). Yeah. A 13-year-old would include a write-bomb in the package. > The bot in #ytsejam, handled by Eric M., is too quick to kick people and > ban them, and has an annoying habit of kicking people off when they're > waiting for others to show up in the channel. All I've ever seen the bot do is show up and get kicked off by angry people who hate ambient existences. I don't want to name names, but a few people seem to like the "kick" feature a bit too much. Ben Laussade. > All this let's-play-god-in-our-own-sandbox crap might be fun, but some > of us would really like to chat. Remember? Internet Relay Chat? It's > not Internet Relay Abuse. If we all can remember that, and stay cool, > we'll have a happier time. Did Nuggetman create the channel so we could chat? Or did Nuggetman create the channel so he could play God? Has God made Nuggetman or Nuggetman made God? #ytsejam is nice because you can say things not related to DT without people getting upset and flaming you, but the Ytsejam Mailing List is nice because you can say whatever you want without getting kicked of the channel, mostly because this isn't an IRC channel. Ytse mailing list. Bafu Vai p.s. Curt Harman is really cool. He should post sometime. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 4 Dec 1995 19:04:56 -0500 (EST) From: kristopher long To: email_address_removed Subject: king's x mailing list Message-ID: Is there anybody out there on the King's X mailing list? I've tried twice to get on it but nobody responded. Maybe I've got the wrong address, I don't have it on me now though. Oh, sorry about the non-DT content. Here's some. How does Myung play so good when he spazzes so much when he plays? He looks like a freak. I guess he's just really into it. Oh, this is pretty cool. I'm an art major and for my final project in one of my classes we have to illustrate something based on a story or a song so I'm doing Metropolis and it's going to be really cool but I don't think anybody really cares. Sorry for this stupid post. B'bye. ---KL "Most undead are more scared of you than you are of them. Once in while you'll run into one who wants to suck out your liver. THAT'S when you use the Kender Spoon of Turning!"---Tasslehoff Burrfoot ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 04 Dec 1995 11:35:23 -0500 (CDT) From: email_address_removed To: email_address_removed Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 1175 Message-ID: Hello, There seems to have been a mistake. I did not send a request to be added to your mailing list. The computers here at UT Geo are for public use and often people fail to update the sender's address. Someone else requested your service but my address was listed as the return address. Anyway, please remove email_address_removed from your list. Thanks, Tom ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 4 Dec 1995 20:09:02 -0500 From: email_address_removed (Aaron Rom) To: email_address_removed Subject: Re: Kevin's Gear Message-ID: I know he used a Roland D-50 and a Roland JD-800 for both I&W and Awake. I do not know what the third board is that he used on the I&W tour. I haven't been able to get a good clean look at what configuration that board is. I imagine it is probably either a Korg or a Roland something. I wondered too, why he would put tape over the names of his boards. Must be a personal thing. Aaron Rom ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 4 Dec 1995 19:19:29 -0600 From: onion@pangea.ca (ian mowatt) To: email_address_removed Subject: Found the DT video guy Message-ID: Hi, Just hours after I posted looking for Scott Cook's address, he went and posted on the jam. So, now I have it. Sorry to waste everyone's valuable space with my request. DT content: I work in a record store, and some guy came in last week and bought Judas Priest's "Stained Class" and the new Savatage. I asked if he had ever heard Dream Theater. He hadn't, but mentioned he's a big Rush and Queensryche fan. So,I talked him into buying Awake. He phoned me back on the weekend to let me know he'll be back to get I&W and ACOS in a couple of days. Yet, another new fan. I love turning people on to DT! On with the jam! Onion ********************************************************** * Ian Mowatt onion@pangea.ca * * * * * * * * "It's a small world, but I wouldn't want to paint it." * ********************************************************** ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 4 Dec 1995 21:14:36 -0500 From: email_address_removed To: email_address_removed Subject: The Growing Collection Message-ID: Thanks to Robert Quezada, I now have my own copy of Subconscious on cassette. I now have 7 pieces of Dream Theater music. I have: WDADU, I&W, LATM, Awake, ACOS and Acoustic Dreams #353. I like it all. I am eagerly waiting to get WDATU from Mike Bahr, #'s 112 and 113. I've been playing some of the tapes I made of DT and early Genesis stuff over the P.A. system. It sounds awful in the machine shop but, heck, I know what songs I am hearing. There are places in the shop that you can hear clearly. The real music freaks have all been asking, "Who the heck was that?". I just smile and tell them Dream Theater and they say they have heard of them. Liars... The guys I work with HAVE asked me to make tapes for them, so I will probably do Acoustic Dreams for them and make them buy the rest. Just one question...Is 'Live at the Marquee' still available? Bombay Vindaloo is a great song that the guitar nuts want to try and learn. Good luck guys.... I was able to find WDADU at a place called The Quonset Hut here in the Northeast Ohio area. The songs themselves are cool, but after hearing James' voice on I&W, I can't handle Charlie. NO, I AM NOT TRYING TO START A DEBATE. If you want to argue with me about this, e-mail me direct. Let's not clog the 'jam with this needless conversation. Talk to all of you later, George. Never drive faster than your guardian angel can fly - Brian Hetman(1989). ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 4 Dec 1995 21:35:39 -0600 (CST) From: email_address_removed (Robert Paul Andrews) To: email_address_removed Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 1176 Message-ID: In regards to the people who burned by that nice la...err..ummm b*tch, I say we do what a lot of people did to MTV on Halloween. Let's flood her mailbox. If you get a 100-200 doing that, no way can someone sort through all that crap easily. ;) Just a thought. I didn't get ripped by her but she does deserve something from everyone in return. One bad apple...... Rob Lifting shadows off a dream.... ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 4 Dec 1995 20:55:17 -0700 From: email_address_removed (The Ytsejammer from Hell) To: email_address_removed Subject: I CHANGED MY MIND. Message-ID: About a few things..... I resubscribed...... Also.....I take back my apology to NugGeTMaN. I thought about for a while and I realized that he was being quite the asshole on "that fateful night on IRC". IN CASE YOU DON'T KNOW, HE BANNED ME FROM #YTSEJAM FOR QUITE AWHILE. (I have a smaaaallll problem with being subtle). Aaaaaanywho, I found out today that I made First Chair French Horn in the Las Vegas Honor Band. YAY, ME!!!! Also, my Megadeth t-shirts finally came in the mail after I ordered them from CDNow on September 27. YAY, AGAIN!!! Seeeeeeya. Ben "Back and Pissed as Hell" Laussade ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 05 Dec 1995 00:12:27 -0500 From: email_address_removed To: email_address_removed Subject: Re: Extreme mailling list Message-ID: email_address_removed.CA wrote: >rquezada >Freehold, NJ USA >Thanks for putting me on your list. I must have forgotten to give my name. I thought I had it set on Netscape, but I guess I didn't. Anyway, my name is Robert Quezada. Thanks.... rq ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 3 Dec 1995 22:49:18 +0000 (GMT) From: Mr Who? To: email_address_removed Cc: Multiple recipients of list Subject: Revolution - Part II Message-ID: "Oh no" I thought, here we are again, some guys criticising someone else for criticising someone else on an opion. I thought we were back in the realms of the NIN and Shannon Hoon type arguements. But as I read on, I realised that for once someone had some sense to write something constructive. I extend my thanks to Jeff Hochberg who wrote the article in 1169 about MTV and I agree with him whole heartedly about what was said. All the best Jim the funky beer monster ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 05 Dec 1995 00:28:07 EST From: email_address_removed (MR STEVE P SWEENEY) To: email_address_removed Subject: Re: Lentchner's comments Message-ID: This is in response to Jill's response in Jam1176 to Kyle's comments. Wow!! Everything you said I think I've heard at least a million times when talking about DT!!! I too being a musician, mallet percussionist, take delight in the intricatness of DT music. I'll be driving along in my car and just enjoying their music for what it is without thinking abiut it to indepth but then something will catch me and drag me in. I listen to all the parts and how each, by themselves, are complex yet work perfectly with the ensambles sound. Now from praise to question: A few Jams back one of you, I'm unsure who it was, said that they met Mike Portnoy at a convention or something like that, and that he divulged his method of counting complex rythms to you. I was wondering, if you'd be so kind, if you'd share it with us (most importantly me!! :>)if you remember. I thank you greatly. Take care all Steve the "Mallet Man" Sweeney ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 4 Dec 1995 23:49:16 -0500 From: email_address_removed To: email_address_removed Subject: Color Threads in........ Message-ID: The picture of the hats should be up by this FRIDAY. Can you believe it? Sorry for the delay. I got the hat sample of the DREAM THEATER "Ytsejam International embrodered hat. The COLORS ARE AS FOLLOWS: (top)Dream Theater written in navy thread. (bottom) Ytsejam International (written in redish/fusha(sp?). There are silver (thread) lines parallel with "Ytsejam International" on (top and bottom of Ytsejam Internaional)) (I hope the above is clear)(grin).. Look at: Http://www.dreamt.org this week I will have the pictures up. For those of you who haven't ordered the hat, if you do so before December 18th, you will be entered in a drawing to win a signed Dream Theater poster! You will have a good chance to win. If you have any questions...feel free to write: email_address_removed ------------------------------ End of YTSEJAM Digest 1178 **************************