YTSEJAM Digest 1161 Today's Topics: 1) Under a Glass Moon by email_address_removed (Mr. NoDepthPerception) 2) non dtc (beat me, but don't beat me off!!) by email_address_removed 3) DREGS!!! by email_address_removed 4) Several =) by email_address_removed 5) SUBCONSCIOUS liner notes within... by "Daniel James Temmesfeld" 6) Re: SDV Samples by "Greg \"Big Brother\" Lee" 7) DT Awake In Japan 1/24/95 by email_address_removed 8) Some opinions......... by email_address_removed.se (MIKA NUMMINEN) 9) New DT album by email_address_removed (Eric Marlett) 10) Re: YTSEJAM digest 1158 by Jeremy Longley 11) more Terry Bozio by email_address_removed 12) Soup's lyrics by email_address_removed 13) Re: ***New Threads*** by Paul Holloway 14) Re: Malibu by Ytse' Jim 15) What DT doesn't need (was: What DT don't have...) by email_address_removed (Marc Respass) 16) DT doing other genres? by email_address_removed (Marc Respass) 17) should they keep James? by email_address_removed (Marc Respass) 18) something funny by email_address_removed (Marc Respass) 19) Re: DT 6-piece! / DT Vocals by "Daniel James Temmesfeld" 20) Re: Lyrical Quiz [again] by "Daniel James Temmesfeld" 21) Lyric games by Jeff "Jeffy" Seifert ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 27 Nov 1995 23:17:13 -0700 From: email_address_removed (Mr. NoDepthPerception) To: email_address_removed Subject: Under a Glass Moon Message-ID: Under a Glass Moon "Damn!", said the doctor. My eyes widened and my body tensed. "What happened??" I asked. "Well", said the doctor,"...um...I...um....okay, I used the wrong anesthesia. I used the big time kind. The kind that puts you out for a day. That's the good news." "The GOOD NEWS? You call that GOOD?? Well, what can be WORSE?" "The bad news could....you're allergic to that kind." That's when time disappeared. * * * I found myself in a storm of swirling colors. The only thing that remained constant was the glass moon-like object in the sky. I stared at it for a moment, then shrugged and walked nonchalantly down the stairs that unfolded before me. All of the sudden, I was flying through a dark tunnel with strobe like lights flashing on and off. Search lights swept across the ground all around me. Run! I had to run before they caught me. But, WHY were they chasing me? I didn't know, but I knew I couldn't let it happen, so I went in the door. The Glassmoon was back, but now it was a pretty summer landscape. And a man walked by bearing an honorinmyname. I thought that was neat. Whoosh....back into the color storm. Only this time, it was more controlled and a few patterns were recognized. One color stood out and flew in fancier patterns than the others. Now, a different color led and the rest pulsed together. Unity..... Now it swirled with more ferocity than ever...DOWN! The glass moon was back...... * * * I woke with a start. The nurse hollered to the doctor saying something about how that guy was Awake. I shrugged and ate my green jello. Author's Note Heehee. No plot, no sense, no nothing. That's what I think of when I listen to Under a Glass Moon. What I wrote is what I "see" when I listen to it. Minus the hospital part. I just wanted to stick green jello in there somehow. It was just one of those nights where I felt like writing. So SUE me! I would like to see stories by other people, though, so SEND 'EM IN BEFORE I GET MAD! :-) Juuuuuust kiddin. :8^(0o0) (the YtseJammer formerly known as Ben Laussade) email_address_removed ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 28 Nov 1995 01:31:50 -0500 From: email_address_removed To: email_address_removed Cc: email_address_removed Subject: non dtc (beat me, but don't beat me off!!) Message-ID: ....or don't put me off beat! i heard the symphonic pink floyd album over the break, and it smokes!! nothing like the yes symphonic album (which was pathetic, btw). this album actually recreates and even adds stuff to the floyd songs. what a different way to hear floyd! check it out. i am soon obtaining a score to the entire karn evil 9 (by elp). my plan is to perform "brain salad surgery" in its entirety sometime(s) in 1998, which is the 25th anniversary of its release. any musicians in the ny area who may be interested in adding their name to a tentative list for a tentative band can email me. ok, some dt content: my wfs score project will be delayed til december at the earliest. i don't have my midi gear hooked up with me, and i heard what i did. and i have some bugs to fix up. i will wait til i go home to my stuff to fix it up. i don't even know what's up with it. the notes are very close to exact (except for some errors i will correct when i go home), but the computer program i use goes nuts with my tempo and meter notations. alas. i will notify when it's ready to any interested parties. i guess that's it for now. happy tortilla findling to all. love and roses, david, not a fuckin idiot david, not related to kaoru david, simply magical kobayashi! ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 28 Nov 1995 09:13:20 -0500 From: email_address_removed To: email_address_removed Subject: DREGS!!! Message-ID: **Greg "Big Brother" Lee**writes: >The only thing I don't have is the Dixie Dregs and Genesis... >I'm looking for DD... If this sounds like you... Get "BRING 'EM BACK ALIVE!" It's an INCREDIBLE CD! It's a great line up - Morse, LaRue, Morgenstein, Lavitz & Sloan... the recording quality is top notch, and the performances should adequately floor you. =) Yeah, it's live. The only ways you'd know it are: 1) I just said it 2) The CD says it somewhere 3) The audience noises 4) There's a "drum solo" on it - it's actually not JUST Morgenstein flailing away on the drums, either. But, you'll have to go buy it to see what I mean. =) And, yes, it does have Cruise Control on it. Just get it, already! It's on Capricorn Records, should you have to special order it. -Hairball ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 28 Nov 1995 09:13:30 -0500 From: email_address_removed To: email_address_removed Subject: Several =) Message-ID: **Steffen Barabasch writes, regarding AD:** >Hairball on vocals... did you really HAVE to list this fake band >for legal reasons? Well, he couldn't list that it was actually Dream Theater, so, thus, the fake band...still, I have to say this: I had NO idea Mike was going to do that - use my name, that is. People around work got a kick out of it. =) And while I do find the fade-ins kind of annoying, I'm sure there was a reason for them being there. As for the slowness of them, it's kind of hard to do quick fade ins, accurately, by hand. **email_address_removed writes:** >OK Hairball...I know you have played with DT before (see >Acoustic Dreams for proof)...so you must know the answer, >so spill it!! Sorry, mum's the word. =) >Has anyone tried to play all of the DT albums backwards to >get the hidden messages?? No, but, if you're really bored, send me a blank reel-to-reel 1/4" tape, and a few blank cassettes. What I'll do is tape each CD onto a reel, then, flip it over, let it run backwards, and make a cassette of it for you...and you can listen for them for the rest of us. ;) (I'm just kidding.) =) Anyway, talk to ya later, -Hairball ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 28 Nov 1995 09:14:00 -500 (EST) From: "Daniel James Temmesfeld" To: email_address_removed Subject: SUBCONSCIOUS liner notes within... Message-ID: Here's the liner notes that someone posted to the 'Jam last spring (and I subsequently saved to frickin' disk)... Someone asked for it in that clump of 10 'Jams that were waiting for me after Thanksgiving Break... ==============8<======cut here=========8<==============8<========= DREAM THEATER SUBCONSCIOUS 1. Eve (5:21) Recorded live at the Limelight, New York City on March 4, 1993. This is the only time known of (that has been recorded) where Kevin Moore played the samples from James Joyce's Portrait of an Artist as a Young Man in concert. 2. A Change of Seasons (19:19) This was also recorded at the New York City Limelight show on March 4, 1993 -- one of the few times it has been played live with LaBrie on vocals. This 20 minute epic is slated for release later this year. 3. O Holy Night (4:10) This is one of the demos done with ex-frontman Charlie Domi nici at the helm. This song was a part of a few live shows during the Images and Words "Music In Progress" tour, and a version featuring LaBrie is expected to be released in the future. 4. Carry That Weight/Golden Slumbers (6:13) A demo of a Beatles song, recorded in 1988 with Charlie Domi nici on vocals. I suspect they were drunk when they did this one, because there was some drunken chatter before it that I had to cut out. 5. Don't Look Past Me (6:21) This is one of the original Majesty demos, and in this instance, would-be vocalist John Hendricks is singing it. It's really quite a good song, and Petrucci works part of the end melody around to make an excellent instrumental ending reminiscent of what appeared later on the Awake track, "Innocence Faded." 6. Wanted: Dead or Alive (5:08) Originally John Petrucci did the instrumental track of this Bon Jovi cover tune for one of his guitar students, and left the tape sitting around. Ex-keyboardist Kevin Moore stole it, and his roommate Rich Kern (also featured on the Kevin Moore demos) decided to make it a bit spicier, and is the "other" voice heard in the background. 7. To Live Forever (acoustic) (4:54) This track was originally recorded as one of the four songs for James LaBrie's vocal audition. The others were; Take The Time, Metropolis, and Under A Glass Moon. 8. The Gorilla Session (excerpts) (2:59) A home-recorded solo session by Petrucci. At this early juncture in his career, John has really little songwriting ability and consequently this track wanders quite a lot. 9. Mission: Impossible Theme (1:17) This song also made it into the live set occasionally on the "Music In Progress" Tour. Z-Rock uses this studio outtake on the air sometimes. 10. The Back Pain Jam (5:07) When Mike Portnoy's back went out at the 10/25/94 show in Toronto, Canada, Derek Sherinian and John Petrucci banged out this rare, never again played jam while Mike sat backstage with a chiropractor. 11. The Awake Heavy Jam (3:51) This rare instrumental was played between "The Ones Who Help To Set The Sun" and "Innocence Faded" -- before they left the setlist on the "Awake" tour. 12. Experimental (1:23) Once thought to be another solo Petrucci instrumental, possibly of him warming up before a show, this song was actually written and performed by John Myung. It's source, or why he wrote it, remains even now shrouded in mystery. 13. Tears (3:09) This is a Rush cover song, recorded live at the famous "Uncov ered" concert at Ronnie Scotts in London, England on January 31, 1995 14. Winter (2:23) A Tori Amos cover, also played live at the January 31, 1995 Ronnie Scotts' "Uncovered" gig. 15. Mystery track Compiled and Produced by Mike Bahr, email_address_removed (NOTE: now email_address_removed) March 1995 ==============8<================8<===================8<========== Later, Dan Temmesfeld email_address_removed ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 28 Nov 1995 09:27:20 -0500 (EST) From: "Greg \"Big Brother\" Lee" To: email_address_removed Subject: Re: SDV Samples Message-ID: > (Space-Dye Vest, 3:47) > Andy: "In HOUSTON they say that?" > Conan: "Oh maybe not, I'm all mixed up." > Andy/Guest: "Dry until I had the swimming pool." > I can't tell if the last line is Andy or not. I've always thought the one voice sounded like actor James Woods... Greg. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 28 Nov 1995 03:58:45 -0500 From: email_address_removed To: email_address_removed Subject: DT Awake In Japan 1/24/95 Message-ID: Hi all, I got in a video copy of the Awake in Japan video. It was recorded Live at Urawa City Hall in Saitama, Japan. It's Pro Shot and in STEREO. Total running time is :120, which includes about :10 of backstage footage. I don't know for sure, but I think my copy is directly from the master. Also, I have two 4-head HIFI STEREO vcr's here at the house, so you copy will be in STEREO too (if you have a stereo vcr, that is). If interested, the cost is $7 in the U.S. and canada, and $10 the rest of the world per tape. Please send either cash or money order in U.S. funds only. Any questions, please email me privately Jam on Scott Cook (email_address_removed) 826 Vernon Circle #A Mountain View, CA 94043-1538 ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 28 Nov 1995 11:08:16 +0100 From: email_address_removed.se (MIKA NUMMINEN) To: email_address_removed Subject: Some opinions......... Message-ID: Okay, here are my opinions about one of the greatest bands in the world... Best JP solo? The solo in Take the time, the best bits during the fade out.... Kev's best is (my humble opinion) the solo in teh beginning of The ones who help to set the sun. It's absolutely stunning...... I think the best album just listening to the songs is WDADU, definetly.... It's also the one with the worst production... Oh well you can't have it all I suppose The best album production wise is Awake, where the drums really crush me, and whereas the stereo picture on IAW was really sterile and lacked depth (Well, the sound were good, though), the stero picture on Awake really convinced me that it was the right thing to do to switch the producers... althogh I think that JP's tone is a bit on the grungier side (negative statement)... Okay, now that I have said the G word, let me say whatever JP says about "playing guitar with an attitude" I think that this grunge/punk/whatever wave is a threat to the bands that actually can play their instruments.. I playin aprogressive outfit in a musical scene in Sweden where (I think) all the other bands play punk or just play Irish folkrocksomething. And whereas we can play our instruments we are considered bad musicians because we play music that they don't understand, and it's not that progressive... Oh well, got to go to class.... MIKA NUMMINEN Spinning in my CD at the moment: Tad Morose: "Sender of thoughts" Meshuggah: "Destroy Erase Improve" Lion's Share: "Lion's Share" Dream Theater: "WDADU" Fate's Warning: "No Exit" ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 28 Nov 1995 05:16:47 -0500 (EST) From: email_address_removed (Eric Marlett) To: email_address_removed Subject: New DT album Message-ID: Just a couple of quick thoughts as to the new album. Yeah, I'd definitely like to see a couple songs written by Derek, but I'd also like to see some more written by JM. His lyrical contributions have been rather few and far between but I love what he has done, namely LTL and LSoaD. He should definitely do more lyrics. As to a Metropolis Pt. 2, I don't know. I've never been too impressed by sequels. Of course, this *is* DT we're talking about, but still, Part 1 is going to be hard to top. Here's a wacky idea: maybe they could rework the original, kinda like they did with ACOS, and then blend it together with part 2 in the vein of AMBI, thus producing a 25 minute epic simply known as Metropolis. Hmm, maybe. Speaking of ACOS, do any of you Jammers out there know where I can get a dubbed copy of the Mercy Fuck version? I'm pretty sure they recorded this so there's gotta be something floating around out there. Hey, I heard that they will be playing ACOS at the Malibu, but does this mean that they won't be doing it at say, Old Bridge, the only show I can go to? To Mike Bahr, thanks for your inspiration. I finally got off my ass and posted. Well, later. and oh, how's it going Bafu? Just had to say it for myself. Heh, heh. Cool. Eric "I'm not going to pay a lot for this muffler" Marlett ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 28 Nov 1995 10:29:28 +0000 (GMT) From: Jeremy Longley To: email_address_removed Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 1158 Message-ID: On Mon, 27 Nov 1995 ytsejam@arastar.com wrote: > > Date: Mon, 27 Nov 1995 08:50:00 GMT > From: borlangw > To: email_address_removed > Subject: Satch tour > Message-ID: > > Well, Patricia, you seem to know everything there is to know about Satch, so can you > answer this question: > > Who's supporting him on the UK tour? > > On my ticket, it says 'Plus Special Guest', which suggests a solo artist, such as . . . > Steve Vai? In my dreams! .. with you? I wish.. I really wish. I think it's rather unlikely, though :<< Still, Satch and Stu Hamm together will still make a bloody good night. If you're going to the London show I'll see you there; however given that you live in Glasgow you might not, I guess. Cheerz, Jezza _ _ jcl1008@ The way your heart sounds makes all (_)___ ________ _| | cam.ac.uk the difference; it's what decides if | / -_)_ /_ / _` |_| Jeremy Longley you'll endure the pain we all feel. _/ \___/__/__\__,_(_) Selwyn College The way your heart beats makes all |__/ Cambridge The difference in learning to live. ^`'~*-,._.^`'~*-,._.^`'~*-,._.^`'~*-,._.^`'~*-,._.^`'~* - Dream Theater. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 28 Nov 95 09:08:26 EST From: email_address_removed To: email_address_removed Subject: more Terry Bozio Message-ID: As stated earlier, Bozzio is amazing and instructional videos prove it best. But also check out "Spring Session M" by the Missing Persons and hear what he did with 80's pop. In particular, check out "US Drag". The fills in "Tears", "Windows" and "Words" might not seem incredible by today's standards, but keep in mind that this LP/CD is about 13 years old. Few had integrated complex rhythms and fills in "pop" music during that era and during that period, Portnoy was probably at an age where he was the most impressionable. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 28 Nov 1995 11:04:14 EST From: email_address_removed To: email_address_removed Subject: Soup's lyrics Message-ID: Soup, I have no idea what they are, but now you can say that you aren't being ignored. Sean Haider bassist, INTROSPECTION ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 28 Nov 1995 10:56:48 -0500 (EST) From: Paul Holloway To: email_address_removed Subject: Re: ***New Threads*** Message-ID: > Date: Mon, 27 Nov 1995 18:12:15 -0500 > From: email_address_removed (Michael Bradley) > To: email_address_removed > Subject: ***New Threads*** [stuff deleted] > > 1) If James could not sing for DT, what would you VAI fans think about > Devon Townshend filling the job? Do you think he could do it? I think he'd > be really cool in DT. Let me know! I've always been a big James fan, but > the combination of his attitude and his not-so-great live performance > reputation are making me get sick of him. > I find this odd, because for some reason I too was wary of how he would act off stage, I don't know why, but somehow I assumed that he wouldn't be the picture-perfect nice guy that the rest of the guys are... But after meeting him at a drum show in Toronto, I found him to be quite friendly. He chatted about WDADU songs, Scarred and ACOS. After signing a few autographs, and the 3 of us were the only ones left, I wanted to get a few photos. The lighting was bad, and I didn't have a flash, so he took us back up on stage, under the bright lights, and let all of us get an individual picture with him. Then, when we should have been leaving, as the techs were putting away the drum sets, we moved off to the side of the stage and talked more about Fates Warning. When we got back down from the stage, there were a few ppl waiting for autographs again, and while he was busy signing, he turned to us as we were walking away and said bye. So for any of you that don't know.. well, you do now... James is a great guy! (Oh yeah, he checks the jams once in a while, so... Hey James!) (Paul, _the_ Toronto 'area' fan) . .. . . .. . . . ... email_address_removed . . .. . . . ... .. . : and here we are again the my perfect life may Paul Holloway yyz : | doors close behind us and deceive me tonight U of Waterloo | | the road goes on and on realize overcast skies Mech. Eng | : jm/fates warning bp/northern pikes Ont. Canada AFiL : . ... . ... . ..... ... . . ... ..... . ... . ..... ... . . ... . ... . ... . ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 28 Nov 1995 13:11:35 -0500 (EST) From: Ytse' Jim To: Ytse Jam Subject: Re: Malibu Message-ID: >I gotta warn most of you... hearing damage is almost a certainty if >you're on the floor...the Malibu puts on, in my guess the loadest of rock >shows. I saw Extreme there last year, and I was ringing for about 3 days... It is very loud at Malibu...I would suggest that you bring some sort of earplugs if you intend to be near the stage. I got stuck right in front of the amp at the Faith no More show and it was F*ckin' loud. Even at the Dream Theater show last year, LaBrie's vocals are so piercing when he goes for the high notes. >Does anyone know what the seating (standing) arrangements are >like at the Malibu. I got my tickets and they say on them "GA" but give >seat and row numbers. Are there seats there? Does the place have a >balcony of some sort? My guess is that they are labled this way >strictly for attendance figures or whatever. Could someone please let >let me know about this? Malibu is General Admission. There is no seating on the floor. There is seating towards the back of the club, Well not exactally seating, More like carpeted steps. The seating is just for attendance purposes. ({})({})({})({})({})({})({})({})({})({})({})({})({})({})({})({})({})({})({}) ) Ytse' jim ) Restless sleep...the minds in turmoil...( ( University of Hartford ( One nightmare ends...Another fertile... ) ) ) Getting to me...So scared to sleep... ( ( ( But scared to wake now...In too deep... ) ({})({})({})({})({})({})({})({})({})({})({})({})({})({})({})({})({})({})({}) ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 28 Nov 1995 13:16:10 -0500 From: email_address_removed (Marc Respass) To: email_address_removed Subject: What DT doesn't need (was: What DT don't have...) Message-ID: > Can anybody imagine DT as a 6-piece with a rhythm > guitarist? I found the idea > quite interesting. ICK!! ICK ICK ICK. EWWWWWWWWWWW. Please let's not talk about that. I hate rhythm guitar. Jeez. As if there weren't enough guitarists in the world, we need some guy who can't take a lead stand around an play chords. I'm not too much into QR (although I do plan to pick Operation:Mindcrime and maybe some others because I always like their stuff, just never bought it) but I think they're the only two guitar band that I've heard and liked a lot. Well, Metalica but I kind consider them an exception. I mean James is the singer and plays rhythm too because they'd lose a lot live w/o it. I much prefer keys to a second guitarist. As for live, I don't think Rush loses anything without rhythm guitar (unless some tech is backstage playing ;). And bands w/keys don't need rhythm guitar because they have keys. Keyboards rule. You can play chords in one hand and lines in the other. It's like having two people :). Besides, remember that guitar mag with JP and JM? If there was another guitarist, Myung wouldn't have been invited. Instead we'd have the ever-so-enjoyable line of questions like: Why don't you take a lead? Can you solo? Do you know the blues scale or just power chords? Sorry to go off, but as a bassist, two guitar bands are just no fun. You get even less attention and no interaction. --Marc R ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 28 Nov 1995 13:16:16 -0500 From: email_address_removed (Marc Respass) To: email_address_removed Subject: DT doing other genres? Message-ID: > 1) Fusion. Jazz. Swing it, baby. I'd like to see > this album as a jazz/fusion > one. They've had touches of it, but can they go > all the way? My challenge. Why can't I agree with anyone? NO!! My biggest fear is that in an attempt to do something fusiony it will come out as Fusak. But I don't like fusion anyway. It always sounds so hokey. The only thing I've heard lately (past year) that could possibly be called fusion is from a couple local (Boston) guys. Bruce Bartlett and Jon Finn. Barlett is definitely fusion. I would call Finn more rock-fusion or just instrumental rock. I saw Tiger (Japanese last name something like Okoshi), a trumpet player. His band includes Bartlett who stole the show. Tiger didn't even play all the time and I didn't miss him. I like DT. They're a progressive ROCK band. I expect influences of all kinds to enter their music but I don't expect them to do anything in a particular genre. Jazz influence is nice. A Jazz song from DT wouldn't be. They aren't jazz players. There's a big difference between knowing a little jazz and being a jazz player. Same with any style. --Marc R ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 28 Nov 1995 13:16:21 -0500 From: email_address_removed (Marc Respass) To: email_address_removed Subject: should they keep James? Message-ID: > ... I've always been a big James fan, but the combination of > his attitude and his not-so-great live performance > reputation are making me get sick of him. ... Ok, no flames > about the James thing. I think he's a really good singer, > but I agree with the guy who sai he turns a LOT of people > off of DT. Recently, I've found this to be true. It really seems like you're saying that DT should get rid of James because he's not accessable enough to a lot of people. I can't go along with that. If the other band members like James as a person and a singer then they should keep him. Sure the singer is a front man all that and he's really important but DT can't just change singers until they find the guy who's most accessable. --Marc R ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 28 Nov 1995 13:16:26 -0500 From: email_address_removed (Marc Respass) To: email_address_removed Subject: something funny Message-ID: > "Jesus saves....Gretzky scores on the rebound!!" That is hilarious!!! --Marc R ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 28 Nov 1995 14:30:00 -500 (EST) From: "Daniel James Temmesfeld" To: email_address_removed Subject: Re: DT 6-piece! / DT Vocals Message-ID: Re: DT 6-piece! Hey Ben Laussade (sp?), What are you saying? Marty Freidman as a "rhythm guitarist?" Are you nutso? He's one of the best lead guitarists out in rock today. I'm not so sure if he'd be that good of a rhythm guitarist behind lead Petrucci. (Maybe they could trade off, and such... :) I don't even know if they would need a rhythm guitarist...I mean, JP seems to cover the grounds of lead and rhythm pretty well; and the keyboardist (whether it be Kevin :'( or Derek) seems to take the other role that JP isn't doing. DT is a whole band that work together so nicely. JP does one thing, KM/DS does another, JM and MP do something else; and it all the bases get covered the way that they want it to sound... Re: DT Vocals I agree about DT's Achille's Heel being their vocals. I love WDADU, but the vocals throw me away more often than not. I love IAW and Awake, but sometimes I find myself angry when JLaB starts up again after an awesome instrumental (though, I'm not *that* mad :). Many of my friends (or acquintances) like what they hear of DT, but they always criticize it by saying, "the vocals are too 80's metal," or "the vocals don't really fit the music." I disagree with them many times, but they do have valdi opinions. If anyone were to be turned off to DT, it would be b/c they had no clue of music or they didn't like LaBrie's voice... (disclaimer: I am not saying that, I love his range, etc; but some people that I have tried to "convert" gave me excuses like those) Another vocal thing (like Mike "FUCK YEAH" Bahr said) I see lacking with them is their harmony vocals. I haven't seen them live, YET; though anytime they come within 4 or 5 hours of Dayton, Ohio, I'm there. So, I don't know how they perform BGV's live; but I do see a lack on the studio stuff. I mean there are some instances of harmonies, but nothing extremely tight. Mike Bahr put it great... maybe they should take lessons from the Galactic Cowboys (or even echolyn)... Later, Dan Temmesfeld email_address_removed #26 WDATU awaiting... ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 28 Nov 1995 14:41:00 -500 (EST) From: "Daniel James Temmesfeld" To: email_address_removed Subject: Re: Lyrical Quiz [again] Message-ID: "Boy, your soul better belong to Jesus Hmmmm-mmm, cause your ass belongs to me." That's from Megadeth's "Captive Honour" [again]...plus the warden says it in The Shawshank Redemption <------great flic!!!! Dan Temmesfeld email_address_removed ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 28 Nov 1995 10:29:41 -0600 (CST) From: Jeff "Jeffy" Seifert To: email_address_removed Subject: Lyric games Message-ID: As ytsejam@arastar.com so succintly put it, > > YTSEJAM Digest 1159 > > Today's Topics: > > 1) Sorry for the non-DT stuff.... > by Shaggy > 2) Re: More lyric quizzes > by "Jonathan Byrne" > 3) JM's bass??? > by email_address_removed.de (Steffen Barabasch) > 4) AD recorded? > by email_address_removed > 5) RE: Messed up new CD's > by Mitchell Adam Edwards > 6) Re: YTSEJAM digest 1157 > by Domenico Italo Composto > 7) Terry Bozzio > by Frank Marotta > 8) Re: Next Album > by Jeremy Lakatos > 9) The Crow (once again) > by Jaime Kimpton > 10) Lyrics.... > by email_address_removed > 11) RE:JM'S Bass > by "Devine, Christopher" > 12) (U)General stuff > by "Steven Johnson, P" > 13) Re: new thread > by email_address_removed (Marc Respass) > 14) stupid posts to the 'jam > by email_address_removed (Marc Respass) > 15) Progressive? > by email_address_removed (Marc Respass) > 16) Religion. NDTC > by Kyle Mallett > 17) Magna Carta > by "Kevin G. Villines" > 18) Re: SDV Samples > by Leon Verrall > 19) Malibu Show on the 28th > by email_address_removed > 20) WWW > by email_address_removed > 21) D/FW internet providers > by "Brian V. Cox" > 22) YTSECON INTERVIEW? > by email_address_removed.de (Steffen Barabasch) > 23) Dane Sonnier (formerly of galactic cowboys) news > by "Brian V. Cox" > 24) SUBCONSCIOUS liner notes still available ;-) > by email_address_removed.de (Steffen Barabasch) > 25) Voice(s) problems, old Afterlife lyrics? > by email_address_removed.de (Steffen Barabasch) > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Date: Mon, 27 Nov 1995 10:30:37 -0500 (EST) > From: Shaggy > To: email_address_removed > Subject: Sorry for the non-DT stuff.... > Message-ID: > > Sorry for posting this, but I lost the correct format to subscribe... > > Could (whoever) :) please remove the following addresses from the JAM: > > email_address_removed > email_address_removed > > and add this address: > > email_address_removed > > Thanks alot...sorry for the non-DT content.... :) > > Chris > > > > ------------------------------ > > Date: Mon, 27 Nov 1995 12:52:26 -0500 (EST) > From: "Jonathan Byrne" > To: "YtseJam" > Subject: Re: More lyric quizzes > Message-ID: > > On 11/26/95 at 19:45:45 Jeremy Lakatos said: > >Well, since I finally got a correct response, for my Thought Industry > >question, I'll continue in that Drama-like song vein: > > >2. (a bit harder): > >"If you are here seeking a future, the Futures Department has been temporarily > >shut down. Have a nice life." > > For some reason, this reminds me of something out of "Hitchiker's Guide to the > Galaxy,", but I suppose that's not it. > > >3. (probably the hardest, as we drop further back into the mix): > >"...you care where I am? ... hate everybody. You hate all of my friends." > > This one I know! This is the little spoken part at the beginning of > "Runaway" from _Brave_, by Marillion. > > I think. :) > ------------------------------------------------------------------------- > "Well, thanks to our kindness and skill Jonathan Byrne > You'll have no trouble until West Virginia University > You catch your breath email_address_removed > And the nurse will present you the bill!" > -Tony Banks and Steve Hackett, "Entangled", Genesis > > ------------------------------ > > Date: Mon, 27 Nov 1995 18:57:20 +0100 (MEZ) > From: email_address_removed.de (Steffen Barabasch) > To: email_address_removed (Ytsejam - the Dream Theater mailing list) > Subject: JM's bass??? > Message-ID: > > Hello! > > To Damon M. Fibraio: > > Damon? You really LIKE the bass sound on WDADU? Ok, it fitted somehow, but > I never liked this crack when he hits a string. I remember I was wondering > what this rhythmic crack in "Ytse Jam" was before I discovered that it was the > bass. > > I still think Awake has the best bass sound of all studio albums. With his > six string bass he makes a perfect low frequency base. Yes, you can't hear it > so clearly when you don't focus on it, but that fits Johns character perfectly! > He's a team player, it works only when he plays with the band. > > Hell, I love that sound, as much as you love the sound on the first album. I > bought a better car hifi and built better speakers just to hear this killing > bass at the end of The Mirror better! > > Steffen > > ------------------------------ > > Date: Mon, 27 Nov 1995 13:25:36 EST > Okay, here's one that no one should get. Probably cuz I'm the only > one I know that listens to these guys. > > "When the time has come to pay what you owe > You know I'll be collecting on your body and soul > And when we've found we've taken everything that you own > It's like a hit squad, DAMN!" Ahhh... But if you DO listen to them, it's easy... "Hit Squad", by T-Ride. But what does this have to do with DT? Jeff ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ jeff seifert, purveyor of mathematics email_address_removed ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ ------------------------------ End of YTSEJAM Digest 1161 **************************