YTSEJAM Digest 1141 Today's Topics: 1) Re: YTSEJAM digest 1139 by email_address_removed (Adam Cook) 2) IRC! by Steve Borzilleri 3) RE: YTSEJAM digest 1139 by Hank Marquardt 4) ACoS at HMV by richard@capitale.qc.ca (Richard James) 5) Greatest concept albums? by IKKLESTICK 6) Metallica quiz by Jeff Stewart 7) Official DT Bootlegs by "mmetzger" 8) ##response-No DT content## by Ytse' Jim 9) RE: YTSEJAM digest 1139 by email_address_removed 10) dt video by email_address_removed (Matt Palzewicz) 11) replies and questions (ADTC) by email_address_removed 12) Savatage: A Christian Band??? by "Dr. Teeth" 13) Souls at Zero (NDTC, as usual) by email_address_removed (Kevin Madden) 14) Live at the Marquee by email_address_removed 15) Re: Moshing by borlangw 16) Pogo Sticks and Dream Theater and BAFU VAI by email_address_removed 17) 'Jam 1140 by email_address_removed 18) stuff by email_address_removed 19) Re: Satch tour by borlangw 20) Re: 2112 band info and lotsa DT stuff by Dave Silva 21) Bestselling album by "Paul W. Cashman" 22) Metallimembers (NDTC) by Pat Sullivan 23) poll results by Pat Sullivan 24) re: ytsejams by email_address_removed ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Sat, 18 Nov 1995 09:34:35 -0500 From: email_address_removed (Adam Cook) To: email_address_removed Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 1139 Message-ID: Hey all, > Who were the four original members of Metallica? > > Not as easy as you might think.... > Oh don't even try me on Metallica trivia Ben :=). First, when they were recording Hit the Lights for Metal Massacre, it was James Hetfield(also on bass), Lars Ulrich, Dave Mustaine, and another lead punched in by a Jamaican guitarist named Lloyd Grant. After that, Ron McGovney agreed to play bass and their lineup became.. James-JUST vocals for a while, eventually took up rhythm guitar too Lars-Drums Mustaine-lead guitar Ron McGovney-bass Now these poll results surprised me... >The third question was "Which DT song is your least favorite?" > >Light Fuse and Get Away: 7 >Afterlife: 6 >Innocence Faded: 6 >Another Day: 6 >Status Seeker: 4 >Killing Hand: 4 >LSOAD: 4 >Lie: 4 >Space-Dye-Vest: 4 >Silent Man: 4 >WDADU(whole album): 2 Wow! Seems like most people need to go back and really give WDaDU a good listen. I think people are shadowing the whole album behind Charlie's vocals and the poor production, but there's really great DT music on there! With James (as probably evident on the upcoming Antiquities) those songs are just as good as I&W and Awake in my opinion. Kevin is especially showcased on this album. Go back and give it a good listen, I think you'll find something new. If you still don't like it...oh well, I tried :) |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||| | "What's the matter with you people? You're not making enough fuckin NOISE!!" | | -James Hetfield 1983 | | "Carpe Diem"-Dream Theater 1995 | | "Don't turn your back on me, or you might find your dreams are only program | | cards"-Queensryche 1986 Screaming in Digital | | Adam Cook email_address_removed Visit me at http://www.tiac.net/users/acook | -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 18 Nov 1995 04:51:02 -0800 (PST) From: Steve Borzilleri To: Dream Thespians Subject: IRC! Message-ID: I don't know about the rest of you guys, but I'm not satisfied with mere postings of my fellow Dream Thespians... Which is why I'm going to go out on a limb and mosy on down to the #ytsejam IRC chat-room this coming Sunday evening at 8pm Eastern Time. And if any of you 1199 'jammers wanna come on down, well shoot, the more the merrier! Just think, pumpkin pie...cheese...stuffing...cheese...mashed potatoes...and CHEESE!! Yes sir, the #ytsejam IRC chat-room. When all you really need to soothe your achin' nerves is a real-time discussion of Johnny Myung's favorite cello suites!! Come on down!! Bafu Vai ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 18 Nov 1995 06:38:33 -0600 From: Hank Marquardt To: "'ytsejam@arastar.com'" Subject: RE: YTSEJAM digest 1139 Message-ID: ------ =_NextPart_000_01BAB58A.2D4DD5E0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I've been reading some posts about a band named Savatage (?) -- hopefully I got that right. Can anyone tell me what the title of their newest album is with that 20+ minute song on it? I'm interested in hearing it. And if anyone knows where in central NJ to get it, please e-mail me. 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Message-ID: I'm not sure WHO is doing this poll (Mike Bahr), but they seemed to have forgotten MY favorite concept album...Genesis' "Lamb Lies Down on Brodway"! I think that this would DESTROY most other concept albums...also, I didn't know that Tori Amos' "Little Earthquakes" was a concept album, I guess I never listened to it with that in mind.... Brian ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 18 Nov 1995 12:26:12 -0600 (CST) From: Jeff Stewart To: Ytsejam Mailing List Subject: Metallica quiz Message-ID: Ok...the challenge has been given and now I must reply. The 4 original members of Metallica are: James Hetfield Dave Mustaine Ron McGovney Lars Ulrich Cheers! _____________________________________________________________________________ Jeff Stewart | We can hope for the future email_address_removed | But there may not be one. email_address_removed | --Dream Theater ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ Date: 18 Nov 1995 13:27:48 -0500 From: "mmetzger" To: "YTSEJAM" Subject: Official DT Bootlegs Message-ID: > I recall hearing that Marillion actually is releasing *official* > bootlegs on CD through their fan club. Now I know that Mike Portnoy > has received Mike Bahr's awesome releases and no doubt has given > Mike B his blessing, but I wonder if DT would ever consider doing the > same (releasing official bootlegs) perhaps through Mike B (which > would mean the recordings Mike B uses for his DT releases would be > directly from the band)? Note that Fish also releases double live CD recordings of his shows, on his own label, every nine months or so. Direct from DATs direct from the soundboard. > Any feedback (especially to the 'jam since most jammers will be > interested in this subject) is welcome! This idea is obviously attractive for a number of reasons. First, it would mean that high quality live material would be readily available. Secondly, it would legalize the process ensuring that we wont ever have to chip in to spring MB from an Arizona jail. And lastly, the band would have to reap some financial benefit from the whole thing. On the other side, however, it would mean that DT would have to take their fan club more seriously ...... (Hey Warren - Whassssup ?? Yoooou asshole !!!! Still walkin' funny ?) Later, Mark Metzger email_address_removed "Men without vices rarely have virtues" - Abe Lincoln ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 18 Nov 1995 14:26:45 -0500 (EST) From: Ytse' Jim To: Ytse Jam Subject: ##response-No DT content## Message-ID: > Who were the four original members of Metallica? > Not as easy as you might think.... I'll take a guess at this one : 1. Lars Ulrich (I know he started the band) 2. James Hetfield 3.Dave Mustaine 4. Cliff Burton ({})({})({})({})({})({})({})({})({})({})({})({})({})({})({})({})({})({})({}) ) Ytse' jim ) Restless sleep...the minds in turmoil...( ( University of Hartford ( One nightmare ends...Another fertile... ) ) ) Getting to me...So scared to sleep... ( ( ( But scared to wake now...In too deep... ) ({})({})({})({})({})({})({})({})({})({})({})({})({})({})({})({})({})({})({}) ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 18 Nov 1995 15:06:52 +0000 From: email_address_removed To: email_address_removed Subject: RE: YTSEJAM digest 1139 Message-ID: >Date sent: Sat, 18 Nov 1995 10:43:41 +0800 >Send reply to: ytsejam@arastar.com >From: Hank Marquardt >To: Multiple recipients of list >Subject: RE: YTSEJAM digest 1139 > > >------ =_NextPart_000_01BAB58A.2D4DD5E0 >Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" >Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > > > I've been reading some posts about a band named Savatage (?) -- >hopefully I got that right. Can anyone tell me what the title of >their newest album is with that 20+ minute song on it? I'm interested in hearing >it. And if anyone knows where in central NJ to get it, please e-mail >me. > >Dead Winter Dead. ... best album they have done in a long time. > >------ =_NextPart_000_01BAB58A.2D4DD5E0 >Content-Type: application/ms-tnef >Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64 > >------ =_NextPart_000_01BAB58A.2D4DD5E0-- I just picked it up about an hour ago and am listening to it right now. BTW, how do I decode the attachment on your post? I'm interested in knowing what it is. I'm using Pegasus mail on Windows PC and it can't decode it. rq ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 18 Nov 1995 14:46:52 -0600 From: email_address_removed (Matt Palzewicz) To: email_address_removed Subject: dt video Message-ID: hey everyone! i was recently at a small music store, and i happened to see a video "Dream Theater, Live! La'mours, ny, 1/9/93. it was labeled as collecters,live,unissued. they guy said he watched it, and it looked like it was made by someone in the audience. does anyone else out there have this video or a copy? would it be worth getting? ($15) thanks!! mathew email_address_removed ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 18 Nov 1995 15:20:17 -0600 (CST) From: email_address_removed To: email_address_removed Subject: replies and questions (ADTC) Message-ID: Hi everyone and Bafu Vai, (again the mention-Bafu-Vai-in-your-Ytsemail tradition to now be called mBViyY) RUSH!! Aw damn it!! Somebody said Rush in the Ysejam! DAMN DAMN DAMN DAMN! Don't ya know that all we can talk about is Dream Theater and that's it? DOH! I guess I'll have to unsubscribe from the YML! :) Oh BTW, ADTC stands for All DT Content. From: Bafu Snafu Tofu Vai Tie Rye >You know, there was a period of time in the late 80's when a slew, >and I mean an ARMY, of metal bands hit the scene. Metal bands >were coming out of the woodwork, everywhere you turned there >was another one. That style of music had reached the boiling point. >Everyone was doing it. In my opinion, that is the main reason that >style of music suddenly began to lose its popularity. Ya know, this is scary - I’ve often thought the same thing. Imagine that - I’m thinking the same thing as our very own Bathroom - er - Bafu Vai! This is SCARY!! :) Joking aside, I know exactly what Bafu is talking about (I think back to those Circus, RIP and Hit Parader mags I had from the late 80’s) and I have a very strong feeling that grunge will die in a couple years (if not sooner) just as the 80’s metal (shall we call it “hair metal”?) died off. What will replace it? Who knows? But I will state that while I’d love to see progressive bands become very successful, I hope that prog will not become the “in” type of music because then it (just like grunge and hair metal) will become a joke with all the new bands sounding like everyone else, just as grunge bands sound now and hair metal bands did in the late 80’s. >Rock The Nation formed in 1994. You may have heard of one of >the bands on their label - Leviathan. These guys have many, many times >been equated with Dream Theater, and I don't disagree with those reviews. I need information - information! (quote from the Prisoner TV show and Maiden tune). Let’s hear more about ‘em (Leviathan). After all, Threshold and Ivanhoe have been mentioned and they both are awesome (though I must admit that echolyn and Mastermind do nothing for me-sorry). Also, any other info on bands on the Rock the Nation label would be appreciated. >From me: >Okay, DT content: I am wondering about the instrumental that follows >TLF on the 5/15/93 gig. Note: this was *not* Bombay Vindaloo, the extended >jam or Barfbag - its a different instrumental that I never heard before. Heh heh, I forgot to add “what is the name of this instrumental?” Anyone? And while I’m on the subject, what was the name of the instrumental that immediately followed LSoaD on most of the Awake tour? I don’t think it was “A Crack in the Mirror” as I would expect that was the title of the heavy lead-in to the Mirror. Also, do any of the solo pieces have names or are they just called “bass solo”, “drum solo”, etc. On the moshing thread: no I’m sure most of you fellow ‘jammers are quite the intelligent type who would never try to hurt another person while moshing. HOWEVER, there were many (ahem) assholes at the Milwaukee show that were doing it to hurt people. Chances are these people were not ‘jammers and were not intelligent (save for the fact that they were at a DT show). I can still picture clearly a big fat Neanderthal who thought it would be great fun to ram his fat ass into an already jam-packed area in front of the stage. These people are there not for the music, but just as an excuse to mosh and inflict pain on someone else. Again, I’m not referring to you ‘jammers (unless you do like to inflict pain) so don’t take it personally. If you guys wanna mosh, fine, just please don’t do it by me. And as to crowd surfing, don’t do it! I’ve been kicked in the head too many times and that to me was PAIN! For me both the moshing and crowd surfing *really* took away from my enjoying the concert - I was too DAMN worried about my *safety* to pay attention to the music. For the record, I myself like to head bang and move to the music (not mosh) during the show. Lastly, I don’t know about what the band in general thinks of moshing, but I can understand them being pissed if it was happening during Another Day or Surrounded. On the other hand, I can easily envision Mike P being in the middle of a mosh pit. Okay I’m done (stepping off the soapbox). Scott Hansen email_address_removed ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 18 Nov 1995 15:32:41 -0600 (CST) From: "Dr. Teeth" To: email_address_removed Subject: Savatage: A Christian Band??? Message-ID: I bought Streets by Savatage the other week and have been steadily been listening to it lately. It is the first album I've owned of them and am very happy with it and am probably going to pick up Dead Winter Dead if I see it next time I hit civilization. (College does that to ya...) My question is, is Savatage a Christian band??? I mean, one of the first songs, "Jesus Saves" is basically about a guy named DT Jesus selling drugs to people, thereby "Saving" them from their realities. But look at the damn title of the song! Obviously we have some parallel meanings going on here! Anyway, looking at the rest of the album, I have a sneaking suspicion that they are indeed a Christian Rock-band. They're just kind of subtle about it and maybe deliver their message under the guise of a "traditional" prog-metal band. (Whatever THAT means. =) Are these Christian overtones present in Dead Winter Dead? For the record, I am a Christian myself and don't at all mind these overtones in Savatage's music. I will defend my religion to the end, but do realize that the Ytsejam is NOT a place for this to be done! (This is directed to another fellow Christian on the 'Jam. Defend, but please don't preach.) .-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=. | ______ "Hmmmmmmm..." ____ ______ - David Peterson - | | /\_____\ /\ \ /\ /\___\ /\_____\ email_address_removed | | / /___ / / \/ / / / /\ /_/__ -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=| | / /\__/\ / / / / / / / / /\____\ "The most beautiful thing that | | /_/___/ //_/___ / / /_/___/ / /_/____ this world has to offer is a | | \_____\/ \_____\ \/ \_____\/ \______\ woman's smiling face" - Me | `-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=' ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 18 Nov 1995 16:32:13 -0500 From: email_address_removed (Kevin Madden) To: email_address_removed Subject: Souls at Zero (NDTC, as usual) Message-ID: <9511182132.AA18039@> To whomever referred to SAZ as a " industrial punk band" I can only respond with "??????" Now aren't you glad the lurkers are posting? -- Kevin (email_address_removed) GO PACKERS...GO WINGS!!! ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 18 Nov 1995 16:43:18 -0500 From: email_address_removed To: email_address_removed Subject: Live at the Marquee Message-ID: I GOT IT!!!!!!! Very special thanks to David Kuznick for sending it to me. David, I lost your e-mail address, so I didn't write to you personally. If any of you fellow 'jammers don't yet have this disc, run out and buy it NOW! It sounds SSSSOOOOOOOOOOO good, it was hard to keep it turned down low enough and yet loud enough to get the feeling of actually being there. Now I know what you were all talking about with that guy screaming during Bombay Vindaloo. Whatta jerk.... Alright, now for some non-DT talk. I just picked up some early Genesis remasters. They sound really great, for a change. I had Foxtrot from a few years ago. The difference can be compared to, on one hand, eating vanilla ice cream and on the other, having flaming hot candle wax poured into your navel. Talk to all of you later, George. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 18 Nov 1995 22:01:23 GMT From: borlangw To: email_address_removed Subject: Re: Moshing Message-ID: Damon wrote: > Hey, Graham. > > You could spend the $20 on the tickets and then $2000 in medical bills > after some mosher breaks most of your bones. Well, that's the price you pay for living in a country where they charge you for being ill. > MOving around is good, Smashing into another person intentionally is insane. I've been to dozens of rock concerts, and I've moshed dozens of times, and neither I nor any of my friends have ever had even the slightest minor injury. > Besides, there's nothing wrong with watching your favorite musician play if you are a > musician.It's called learning. Oh, like you can actually see the guy's fingers from down in the pit. Watch the LIT video instead. Graham B. ______________________________ ______________________________________ |o o| |o o| | Graham Borland |:: | email_address_removed.ac.uk |:: | Dept. of Computing Science |:: | http://www.dcs.gla.ac.uk/~borlangw |:: | Glasgow University |:: | +44 (0)141 357 4033 |:: |______________________________|:: |______________________________________|:: :::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::: :::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::: ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 18 Nov 1995 13:39:34 -0500 From: email_address_removed To: email_address_removed Subject: Pogo Sticks and Dream Theater and BAFU VAI Message-ID: I sure hope this moshing thread dies quickly. So to contradict myself let me say something about moshing. Watching moshers( up in front where those who go to _watch_ the band can't get to) is like watching Fucking Idiots on Pogo sticks, monkeys at the zoo (sorry to insult monkeys). If you guys want to mosh then why not go out into the parking lot, turn up someone's car stereo, and have at it. Randy Aquino said "someone else said that DT doesn't like moshing. Now whether this is true or not shouldn't matter. I mean WE PAY their salaries. We should be able to mosh if we want to. If you are trying to please DT then you a (sic) sad example of living" ****************************************************************************** ************************** Pleasing the band has nothing to do with it... "respecting" the band's wishes does. As far as paying their salaries...what a load of convoluted thinking...read that as "Bullshit". To continue your train of "thought"......OK...I would like to get up on stage with them and start playing one of JP's guitars...hell, I pay his salary too, and I play guitar. Moshers probably make up 1% of DT fans. You people are a very small minority, accept it.(another example of _your_ logic) Yes Randy, how arrogant and inconsiderate James LaBrie must be...the band dedicates years of effort, years of practice, puts their souls into their songs, and he gets pissed off because he sees a bunch of people jumping, falling down, elbowing, kicking, punching each other.( While those that came to watch and listen (BAFU VAI) have to stay in the back so they don't get nailed by a mosher.) No wonder the band loves to play in Japan!! There are a lot of other newgroups where you can talk about the fine art of moshing.....Smashing Pumpkins, Hole, etc. See Ya! OK...just got my three T-shirts from Jason. They are cool. Haynes quality...big Dream Theater on the back, glow in the dark lettering " let the light surround you...", DT logo on the front. First class quality, shipped priority mail!! Do I get a free hat for this endorsement?? And for those who don't like some of the content on the Jam....there are a lot of us posting and there is going to be some interaction between us...some humor, some flames, a lot of sometimes non-DT subjects...kind of like a big 'family' on the net. I really like catching glimpses of everyone's different personalities. We all have a common bond and we all are different...(like BAFU VAI, for example, when he is not taking his medication). So lighten up and enjoy. I am the screamer in LaTM...HAIRBALL ( vocals, rhythm guitar on Acoustic Dreams) will confirm this...he is the one who poked one of Portnoy's drumsticks in my ear...I was screaming in pain. Warren in Oregon Warren in Oregon with the Fan Club shaft buried deep where the sun don't shine. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 18 Nov 1995 11:12:58 -0500 From: email_address_removed To: email_address_removed Subject: 'Jam 1140 Message-ID: I have seen good 'jam's and not so good 'jam's, but this one is by far the worst. When I read these, I like to see the talk about Dream Theater and Rush. I don't mind hearing the progress reports on Acoustic Dreams or WDATU. I even like hearing about the people that have recently received their own copy of AD, (I am still waiting on mine. #'s 352 and 353). But what I don't want to see is another DT/NIN like banter amongst us talking about God. I go to church on Sunday (the good Catholic that I am). I get my dose of religion while I am there. Then I go home and read the latest 'jam that came in. Lately I have been reading about people that are trying to push God on me in the 'jam. Listen people, if you are christian, that's great. Stop selling me religion! I'd rather buy a hat with a 'jam logo on it. On a lighter note, I have the new subwoofers in the Neon. I did see a response from Bafu Vai (required content) about the cones joining me in the front seat. I send him an e-mail privately, but he either doesn't read them, or doesn't care to talk privately. Hey, Bafu, how does it feel to be Howard Hughes? Too big to be a common man and too small to talk to the commom man..... Talk to all of you soon, George. Start flame now............ ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 18 Nov 1995 17:06:36 -0500 From: email_address_removed To: email_address_removed Cc: email_address_removed Subject: stuff Message-ID: this goes to "soup." I'M SO SORRY, BUT YOU ARE WRONG!!! the answer was b, geroge washington. apparently, you missed some other person who posted a rather curious post about the "rare" acos, and was surprsied that "kevin moore wasn't in the current lineup." my intentions in my "theatre" post were to poke some fun. obviously, i wouldn't charge for the "rare" images and words, now would i? hee hee hee. you, my friend have fallen into the trap of thinking i couldn't spell. i was fully aware of the proper spellings of theater and ytsejam. so no, you don't have to correct everyone. thanks for your concerns, nonetheless. trey, i was going to send you a personal email about people who are going to the shows, but being that i just got back from a long and tiring rehearsal, i'm too lazy. so i'm going to the ct and ny shows. i think i hit matt (siriois ??) also, but just in case..... to the fellow wanting to know where to start with elp: PLEASE, PLEASE PLEASE LISTEN!! start with one of these a) brain salad surgery b) tarkus c) trilogy d) pictures at an exhibition and if you really like it, get the box set. it is fantastic!! anything up to more or less bss is incredible, and then when they hit the mid 70s, they start cheesing out. and although i absolutely love the new "pictures" they did, most of their new stuff is poor. alas. to rob quezada- mucha gracias para la informacion. i just got flooded with jams. thank you, that is all for now. peace david, the magical, not related to kaoru, and bulbous kobayashi ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 18 Nov 1995 22:39:24 GMT From: borlangw To: email_address_removed Subject: Re: Satch tour Message-ID: Dave wrote: > graham and patricia. thank you!!!!!! wow!!!! stu hamm and jonny mover (and > john campitelli). i heard hamm blew last time he played with satch- i hope > that ain't true this time. but that band rocks hard!!! I have a tape of Stu Hamm playing bass for Satch, last time they visited Glasgow, and he played a fucking awesome bass solo! My jaw literally hit the ground . . . I didn't know that kind of thing was possible! Graham B. ______________________________ ______________________________________ |o o| |o o| | Graham Borland |:: | email_address_removed.ac.uk |:: | Dept. of Computing Science |:: | http://www.dcs.gla.ac.uk/~borlangw |:: | Glasgow University |:: | +44 (0)141 357 4033 |:: |______________________________|:: |______________________________________|:: :::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::: :::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::: ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 18 Nov 1995 19:59:50 -0500 (EST) From: Dave Silva To: email_address_removed Subject: Re: 2112 band info and lotsa DT stuff Message-ID: > Hi fellow Jammers and especially Bafu Vai, > (I'm upholding the mention-Bafu-Vai-in-your-Ytsemail tradition). Just wanted > to make it known to you fellow Jammers who are also Rushheads that 2112 will > be playing in Brew-Town (Milwaukee) at TA Verns on the 24 of this month! > Yeah! I'm going - no doubt about that and I hope some of you guys and gals > will be there as well. I'll probably wear my Rush jean jacket and my Ytsejam > (thanx Jason G) T-shirt. I saw 2112 here in State College. They were actually very good. Pretty much played all of Rush to a tee. They only played older stuff, Subdivisions being the latest song they played. However, I'll have to say that their singer sings the old stuff better than Geddy does now. This is NOT blasphemy. We all know that Geddy is getting older and he just can't hit that high stuff as well as he used to. At any rate, check these guys out. Dave ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 18 Nov 1995 15:56:27 -0800 (PST) From: "Paul W. Cashman" To: email_address_removed Subject: Bestselling album Message-ID: I think we might be barking up the wrong tree here.... As I recall, the bestselling album of all times is a Christmas album. (Am I close, whoever posted the original question? I'm thinking it was "White Christmas" by Bing Crosby.) -- Paul W. Cashman | Before the leaves have fallen email_address_removed | Before we lock the doors Dream Theater -------> | There must be the third and last dance "Metropolis Pt 1" | ...This one will last forever... ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 18 Nov 95 19:12:30 EST From: Pat Sullivan To: email_address_removed Subject: Metallimembers (NDTC) Message-ID: > Who were the four original members of Metallica? Umm...guessing here. Hetfield, Ulrich, Dave Mustaine and Ron McGovney? (or something like that). _________________________________________________________________________ /_________________Pat email_address_removed ||She turned for one last look []Poison, power. Driven by fury. || ||She looked me in the eye []Digital dictator, blackened expropriator. || ||I said "I love you.... []Deliver us from evil, save the people. || ||...goodbye." []Contagion of hatred must be eliminated. || ||-DT / "A Change of Seasons" []-Vicious Rumors / "Savior From Anger" || \_____________________________[]__________________________________________/ ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 18 Nov 95 19:17:37 EST From: Pat Sullivan To: email_address_removed Subject: poll results Message-ID: What?!? Only 1 saxophone player? Hey, cool. I'm UNIQUE! :) I *AM* the saxman. _________________________________________________________________________ /_________________Pat email_address_removed ||She turned for one last look []Poison, power. Driven by fury. || ||She looked me in the eye []Digital dictator, blackened expropriator. || ||I said "I love you.... []Deliver us from evil, save the people. || ||...goodbye." []Contagion of hatred must be eliminated. || ||-DT / "A Change of Seasons" []-Vicious Rumors / "Savior From Anger" || \_____________________________[]__________________________________________/ ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 18 Nov 1995 19:31:06 -0500 From: email_address_removed To: email_address_removed Subject: re: ytsejams Message-ID: In ytsejam1138, someone wrote: >>You forgot that Cliff (god) Burton died in a bus accident in 1986 on the >>Master of Puppets tour. Then they got Jason Newsted. I think Queensryche is >>right, but somebody said no. Anybody know why? Queensryche is correct. They have the same five members since the EP back in 1983. If they had different members before then, I don't know. But the survey only counts for album releases, and queensryche has had the same lineup for all recordings. In ytsejam1139, Ben Laussade asks: >>Who were the four original members of Metallica? If you mean from Kill 'Em All, then it's Hetfield, Ulrich, Hammet, and Cliff Burton. But have a compilation LP from 1982 called "Metal Massacre" that has Metallica doing "Hit the Lights." The line up is: James Hetfield - Vocals Dave Mustaine - Guitar Ron McGouney - Bass Lars Ulrich - Drums Lloyd Grant - Guitar I copied this directly from the LP jacket. I don't know if this is original or not. But it's the earliest "official" release of a Metallica song that I own. ------------------------------ End of YTSEJAM Digest 1141 **************************