YTSEJAM Digest 1129 Today's Topics: 1) Guess this by your mama 2) Argh by Michael Bahr 3) Bafu Stern by Damon M. Fibraio 4) Kansas - NDTC, but read it anyway. by email_address_removed 5) Re: Metropolis Watch by email_address_removed 6) RE: Thomas McRocklin (no relation) by email_address_removed.co.uk 7) similar sounding bands and thank God for Dream Theater by email_address_removed (Aaron Rom) 8) El-N-Gee by Matthew Sirois 9) RE: LATM Screamer by email_address_removed.co.uk 10) Mike Portnoy's first band by aurora@wirehub.nl (Jan van Huizen) 11) DT Screwups by email_address_removed (Adam H. Marshall) 12) Re: Kansas tour dates by email_address_removed 13) Bafu and Ben - the hoax is up! by email_address_removed 14) Jokes suggestion by email_address_removed 15) if you don't like it, skip it. by Kyle Mallett 16) re:ytsejam1127 (new quiz) by email_address_removed 17) favorite drink by Jaime Kimpton 18) comment on ytse and jam explanation by email_address_removed (Ryan Inverso) 19) Pffft! by Johnny Mastin 20) Re: YTSEJAM digest 1128 by email_address_removed (Zack Gemmill) 21) Trivia question, fav drink by email_address_removed (James Garrett) 22) re:ytsejam1127 (new quiz) by Damon M. Fibraio 23) Re: clearup by Damon M. Fibraio 24) Re: fav drinks! by Victor Jason 25) WARNING DO NOT TRADE WITH SUSAN MOSCARDINI! by email_address_removed 26) Re: DT and Covers? Well Let Me Tell You by email_address_removed (Michael Coghlan ) 27) mistakes! by "Abu Shams M. Ahmed" 28) CD update! WDATU #s included! by Michael Bahr ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 13 Nov 95 17:40:45 EST From: your mama To: email_address_removed Subject: Guess this Message-ID: duh da duh da duh da Inspector Gadget duh da duh duh da oo oo! ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 13 Nov 1995 15:45:43 -0700 (MST) From: Michael Bahr To: email_address_removed Subject: Argh Message-ID: DENIED! I can't come to Los Angeles for Drum Day. (Steve, I'll pay ya back for the ticket anyways...) I'm sorry I won't be able to meet all of you coastal Jammers. All sorts of shit just came up this week. Those of you with international orders less than #350 that had not arrived yet: I had some of them get sent back through customs because I forgot to write the value on the slip. D'oh! What an error. I've since corrected it and re-sent them. Sorry for the delay. Oh yes, this was for Acoustic Dreams. I will likely post an AD/WDATU update tonight, watch for it! :) Full numberings and everything. How about those Niners!! In your FACE, Dallas fans! :)= Mike Bahr, email_address_removed ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 13 Nov 95 17:36:18 EST From: Damon M. Fibraio To: email_address_removed Subject: Bafu Stern Message-ID: Bafu. You are a fucking nut. If you come up to New jersey, I want to put you on my radio show. I can see it now. Let me introduce Bafu Stern. Oh, I'd definitely get fired again for that. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 13 Nov 1995 17:15:49 -0500 From: email_address_removed To: email_address_removed Subject: Kansas - NDTC, but read it anyway. Message-ID: About Fates Warning: Get Parallels. Great album. >But I'll agree - DT lovers will not necessarily like this album. >Kansas is NOT heavy enough for many of the people on this list. I think the bottom line here is this: Kansas's music, whether it's heavy or not, is incredible. Period. If you're of the mentality that "If it's not heavy, it sucks," you're definitely missing out on some brilliantly composed and arranged music. And that's just plain close-minded & stupid. Shit - Think about THIS: Yngwie Malmsteen actually praised Kansas for their "orchestration" (arrangement) skills. When's the last time you heard Yngwie say ANYTHING nice about ANYONE...except himself, Hendrix, Blackmore, Bach, Mozart, or Paganini, of course... I just think that Kansas, as it stands now, leaves a lot to be desired. I mean, sure, David Ragsdale is a very technically good player, but, his tone sounds SO PLASTIC, and so rigid. Rob Steinhardt, on the other hand, was accurate, AND played with FIRE! =) His violin playing just kicks ass. >[Monolith], however, contains a lot of the musical sounds and >"nuggets" that fill all the other albums. Anyway, those two albums are probably the least Kansas-y albums...but, I love 'em as well. I don't think there's a Kansas CD released before 1990 that I don't like. Everything past that, you can have. ;) (except the box set) >The arrangement of "Mysteries and Mayhem" makes it into a fun >metal song. Until you see the video tape of it. That whole long violin sustained section is just an excuse for Ragsdale to switch over to the guitar... in all actuality, what REALLY happened is that Dave took a violin solo, then a guitar solo, and THEN the song picks back up. And the way they edited it on the CD just doesn't do it for me. The solo, BTW, wasn't all that & a bag of chips either. =) >You get "Down the Road" and "Lonely Street" and both are a lot >of fun live. #1 - I just miss Robbie Singing DTR. :( #2 - Lonely Street demonstrates what Walsh's voice sounded like back in, what, 1975? Sheesh! =) OH, and incidentally - if you're in the Philly/NJ area, and you listen to WPST, they're letting me talk on the air now. I took the name "Zack," simply because I like that name. =) If you hear someone say, "97.5, 'PST, I'm Zack..." It's me. -Hairball, the LONG WINDED...and I just found out I've been on the 'Jam since #583...wow, has it been that long?! =) ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 13 Nov 1995 17:17:30 -0500 From: email_address_removed To: email_address_removed Subject: Re: Metropolis Watch Message-ID: >For any of you who care... Uh-oh... -- >this current issue has a couple of ACoS reviews >(including one from the illustrious Hairball, who actually >managed to be *concise* for once! Hey! I resent that! :P "Illustrious?" Am I? Jaime, do you think anyone REALLY gives a rat's behind that I wrote something for the 'zine? =) Shit, people don't read what I post HERE, and now you think they're going to PAY to read more of my bullshit? hehe... Besides, I would've rambled more, but, I had only 10 minutes to compose & send off the damn thing. I swear, Jaime threatened to slap me upside the head! ;) (inside joke...) -- But, seriously - send Jaime the lousy pocket change and get a copy of it...and not because of my half-assed, sorry excuse of an album review. - Hairball ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 13 Nov 1995 22:24:02 +0000 From: email_address_removed.co.uk To: email_address_removed Subject: RE: Thomas McRocklin (no relation) Message-ID: <"3954*/I=P/S=McLoughlin/OU=bra0108/O=icl/PRMD=icl/ADMD=gold 400/C=GB/"@MHS> Thomas did release an album a few months ago, covering ALL the years he has been recording, he's still only about 16. Apparently he was doing Van Halen covers in his father's band when he was 6 years old. Patricia ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 13 Nov 1995 18:01:37 -0500 From: email_address_removed (Aaron Rom) To: email_address_removed Subject: similar sounding bands and thank God for Dream Theater Message-ID: Has anyone noticed a rather interesting trend lately? The trend I'm referring to is this trend of bands sounding a lot like each other. For instanc , Bush sounding exactly like Nirvana, only with English accents; Silverchair sounding like Pearl Jam, only less relevant; and Toad the Wet Sprocket sounding like Gin Blossoms sounding like Counting Crows sounding like Deep Blue Something . My roomate, God save his soul, bought the Deep Blue Something CD yesterday, and they sound like Junior Gin Blossoms, they even look alike. He bought it for the ultra-trendy, new Gen-X slacker song "Breakfast at Tiffany's." These bands all sound the same. They seem to have this formula; a weird name that hints at a deep cosmic truth, even stranger song titles with typically irrele- vant lyrics that somehow aptly describe anything and everything in a tightly- wrapped, flannel-laden, three and a half minute package, and airplay from MTV. Why is this happening? Does anybody know? These alternateen bands are all the same. That's why I have become such an avid Dream Theater fan. There music is so original, both in images and words. While these alternateen bands offer an irrelevant and mindless product, it seems like Dream Theater actually cares enough about their craft to put out such great material. Any thoughts about these genetically-engineered clone bands made from the Bisquick alternateen mix? Aaron Rom ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 13 Nov 1995 16:44:22 -0500 (EST) From: Matthew Sirois To: email_address_removed Subject: El-N-Gee Message-ID: Hello Ytsejam people. Three DT shows at the end of the year. A good thing. All this talk about meeting before and after and between shows sounds very exciting, but pretty unorganized. So here it is: if you're going to the show in CT on the 27, send me your address. I'll collect them all and inform everyone about all the details - how many people are going, where to meet, and when. Some of you may have been in contact with Mike (email_address_removed). I've been in contact with him and we tossed around some ideas about meeting before the show. First things first, though. We need a list of everyone to expect. So e-mail me and let me know you're going. cool. long live the revolution. -matt ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 13 Nov 1995 22:38:11 +0000 From: email_address_removed.co.uk To: email_address_removed Subject: RE: LATM Screamer Message-ID: <"3956*/I=P/S=McLoughlin/OU=bra0108/O=icl/PRMD=icl/ADMD=gold 400/C=GB/"@MHS> I always thought it was James warming up !! ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 13 Nov 1995 23:39:34 GMT From: aurora@wirehub.nl (Jan van Huizen) To: email_address_removed Subject: Mike Portnoy's first band Message-ID: Hi, In a music shop here in Holland I noticed a CD from a band called 'Rising Power'. I don't know if any of you know this, but this is the band Mike Portnoy used to play in before he joined Dream Theater. I didn't buy the CD, because I didn't have any money with me (just another poor student). If you're interested in the CD (why shouldn't you ?) just tell me, and I'll check it out. See ya, Aurora =+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+= " Likely or not, it's a dream that we keep and at odds with our senses we'll climb But if faith is the answer, we're already reached it and if spirit's a sign, then it's only a matter of time " Kevin Moore, 1989 ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 14 Nov 1995 18:07:33 -0500 From: email_address_removed (Adam H. Marshall) To: email_address_removed Subject: DT Screwups Message-ID: Hey all, What a fun thread. I remember this mistake when I saw DT play San Antonio last November, and now I have it faithfully preserved thanks to Brian Cox and his ever-present DAT recorder. Last song of the set: TSM. James comes to "pray they won't ask..." but accidentally sings "desperate to fall" again from the first verse. Not realizing his mistake, he continues with "behind the great ..." and he trails off as it hits him. So he finishes with "there's always one more mask". Then he looks at JP and laughs (this chuckle is quite audible on the tape), before going into the chorus. Just wanted to share. I thought it was pretty funny at the time. Later, Adam ________________________________________________________________ Adam H. Marshall Trinity University email_address_removed San Antonio, TX "In science, there is only physics; all the rest is stamp collecting." --Ernest Rutherford ________________________________________________________________ ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 13 Nov 1995 19:12:42 +0000 From: email_address_removed To: email_address_removed Subject: Re: Kansas tour dates Message-ID: > I've heard people mention seeing concerts by Iron Maiden and Kansas recently > and I'd love to see both these bands. Could someone post U.S. tour dates if > anyone has any? Kansas tour dates are easy to come by. Simply send an email message to email_address_removed and request tour date information. That's what the mailing address is for, so don't be shy. Mike Stover email_address_removed http://home.eznet.net/~spider/spider.htm "He who can copy, can do" - Leonardo Da Vinci ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 13 Nov 1995 20:33:19 +0000 From: email_address_removed To: email_address_removed Subject: Bafu and Ben - the hoax is up! Message-ID: > Seeing as how I have resigned from the Visual Music contests due to their > lack of competition and incredible ease, I will approach this new thread > with great drama. In fact, those Visual Music posts were so easy, I WAS > OFFENDED!! Yes, that's the real reason I stopped answering them. They > insulted my existence. Yes, the visual music tests from Ben Laussade were easy for you, but that's because BAFU AND BEN ARE ONE AND THE SAME PERSON!!!! Yes, I've figured you out you cunning "fucking idiot". I shall show you proof: Ben writes : boom, be-boop, dada, goo-goo. What's that? Bafu writes: That's easy, that's JP's hurt murmur at 3.47 into "Surrounded". Ben writes: You're right! Amazing! Ben writes short stories and posts them to the jam. Bafu writes dialogues and posts them to the jam. Both begin with the letter "B". The real identities of Jam and Ytse are Bafu and Ben, respectively. Mike Stover email_address_removed http://home.eznet.net/~spider/spider.htm "He who can copy, can do" - Leonardo Da Vinci ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 13 Nov 1995 21:17:42 +0000 From: email_address_removed To: email_address_removed Subject: Jokes suggestion Message-ID: Here's an idea. When telling an ethnic joke, use "player 4" instead of the ethnic group in the joke. Example: What's the difference between a player 4 and a cucumber? About 4 IQ points. A player 4 and an Earthling jump out of an airplane with parachutes. They fall a while and then the earthling pulls his string and opens his parachute. The Player 4, however, keeps falling. The Earthling says to the player 4, "When you gonna pull your parachute?" Player four looks down and says, "Gonna wait a little bit" When the player 4 is about 1000 feet high, the earthling yells "You gonna pull it yet?" The player 4 responds "a little longer". 500 feet up, the earthling says "ya gotta pull your string" The player 4 says, "Not yet". When the player 4 is 5 feet off the ground, the earthling screams at him, "Aren't you gonna pull it now?!" The player four looks down and says, "Nah, I think I'll jump from here". How many player 4's does it take to screw in a light bulb? None, they just SIT there, they don't DO anything! Mike Stover email_address_removed http://home.eznet.net/~spider/spider.htm "He who can copy, can do" - Leonardo Da Vinci ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 13 Nov 1995 19:42:41 -0600 (CST) From: Kyle Mallett To: email_address_removed Subject: if you don't like it, skip it. Message-ID: I don't understand why so many people are complaining about the Ytse & Jam stories. They're not my type of thing either, so I just skip them. It takes less time and causes less grief than posting useless complaints. You can't reasonably expect to be interested in every post. kyle ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 13 Nov 1995 20:55:49 -0500 From: email_address_removed To: email_address_removed Subject: re:ytsejam1127 (new quiz) Message-ID: In ytse jam 1127. Damon wrote: >>you forgot rush. While Rush has had the same line up for over 20 years, Neil Peart isn't their original drummer. the first Rush album had John Rutsey on drums. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 13 Nov 95 21:52:52 GMT+0000 From: Jaime Kimpton To: email_address_removed Subject: favorite drink Message-ID: Since I despise the taste of alcohol, I'll only drink stuff that has a really strong "other" flavor - Bailey's Irish Cream, screwdrivers (with mucho juice), but my personal favorite is Italian peach vodka - my mother smuggled it in with the Christmas tree when she moved back from Naples a couple years ago. YUM! Jaime the atypical college student who stays SOBER at all parties, frat included, because she's seen a lot of serious shit go down when people are drunk - and besides, she gets a kick out of watching people make complete asses out of themselves. :) ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 13 Nov 95 12:09:15 EST From: email_address_removed (Ryan Inverso) To: email_address_removed Subject: comment on ytse and jam explanation Message-ID: Hello jammers, Did anyone else find it ironic that immediately after Bafu's explanation of ytse and jam there were like 5 posts of people unsubscribing because of it. Just thought it was kinda funny. Later, Ryan Inverso ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 13 Nov 1995 23:41:44 -0500 From: Johnny Mastin To: email_address_removed Subject: Pffft! Message-ID: Pffft....pfffft...pffft...is this this on? :D Hey everybody! Just wanted to drop you a line to let you know that I'm back on the list. (As if you care?! :D ) I've been lurking for about a week now catching up on some past Jams... Couple of things: Mike Bahr : You have outdone yourself with AD. I got my copy and it is awesome! I dubbed it to tape right away for the ride down to my new job (In Va.- on temporary assignment, Hey Jaime, not too too far from you!) Susan from Connecticut: Are you still on the list? Drop me a line! Hairball: I've heard that WYSP changed their format. Maybe now we can get some DT played in Philly! BTW, I heard the keyboard intro to Erotomania as a bed to a commercial on DC-101 here is Va.... WildKoba wrote: > ladies, gentlemen and fucking idiots: i have returned from home. i had fun. > especially at giants stadium friday watching marching bands in 30 degree > weather. that was fun. > I must fall under the f*cking idiots classification. I, too, was at Giants stadium this past weekend (Saturday though) watching marching bands in the rain and high winds. It was brutal! Well enough of my ramblings, on with the Jam! Johnny email_address_removed used to be email_address_removed still a member of YJLHB - They haven't made me cut it yet! :D ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 13 Nov 95 23:00:29 PST From: email_address_removed (Zack Gemmill) To: email_address_removed Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 1128 Message-ID: Heh, I knew no subject would piss some people off !>)> Ah, good to be back after four days in So-Cal. I can't wait until the listserver switches me back to Bill the Cat mode. Anyway: From: email_address_removed (Trey Allen) 2) Does anyone else like the demo version of TTT like way better? I just love the vocal overdubs!!! Opinions??? Definitely! With minimum tweaking, I think it would be album-worthy. I'd be interested in hearing the other IAW demos of this quality. From: email_address_removed This is just a short letter to everyone who is considering buying bootlegs from Mike Bahr. *AHEM* Mike Bahr does _not_ make "bootlegs." These are legitimate recordings of bands covering these songs. (just in case They are monitoring !>)> From: An Angel's Kiss... No one post any more flames about anything to anyone, Awwww, how boring! Why? Do they hit a little close to home sometimes Al? From: Damon M. Fibraio Hey, Jodi, at least you're honest. How many other jammers will admit that they still listen to Journey or Boston or even Prince or LIsa Lisa and the Cult Jam or whatever? Hell, I heard the Danger Zone on the radio the other day, the song from Top Gun, and found myself getting into it. Hell, it's better than some of the shit you hear on mainstream radio. Here's one! I still listen to a lot of that stuff. 80s music fans unite! I listened to "Purple Rain" the other day, (as my roommate left the disc out one day) and the solo at the end is really beautiful. Prince is a great guitarist, too bad he's mental. The TG soundtrack is awesome. Recent soundtracks that are worthy are _Mortal Kombat_ and _Desparado_. TAF, Zach ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 13 Nov 1995 23:53:11 -0800 From: email_address_removed (James Garrett) To: email_address_removed Subject: Trivia question, fav drink Message-ID: > >Subject: Re: New Trivia Quiz >Message-ID: > > You forgot rush. > > >------------------------------ I don't think Rush qualifies; Niel Peart is not an original member. Fave drink would have to be Celebrator Dopplebock. The best "beer" that I have ever tasted. Offensive joke of the day: One day in suburbia, a wife was screwing another man when her husband came home. "Quick, into the closet," she said. "Before my husband catches us!" The guy grabs his pants and runs into the closet. After closing the door, he hears a voice say, "Boy its dark in here." "Who's there?" asks the man. "I'm Billy," said a little boy sitting there in the dark. "Do you want to buy my great Dream Theater CD? Only $50." "Why would I want to do that?" "If you don't, I'll tell my dad about you and my mom, and he'll kill you." Seeing that he had no other choice, the man gave billy the money. The next day, the mom and the man were going at it again when her husband, once again, came home early. "Quick, into the closet!" Once in the closet, "Boy it's dark in here!" "So, Billy, which CD are you selling today?" "Another Dream Theater. This one's even better. $100!" Billy was so happy that he now had alot of money that he spread it all out on his floor and was running his hands through it. Just then, his dad walked in and said,"Billy. I don't know how you got that money, but I'm sure that it wasn't honest. So, tomorrow I want you to go down to the church to confess." So the next day, Billy walks down to the church to confess. After entering the confessional and closing the door he said, "Boy it's dark in here." To which the priest said, "Are you going to start that shit again?" James Garrett ________________________________ email_address_removed This album contains material which a truly free society would neither fear nor suppress. Frank Zappa ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 14 Nov 95 3:17:11 EST From: Damon M. Fibraio To: email_address_removed Subject: re:ytsejam1127 (new quiz) Message-ID: Oh. Oh. Shit. Oh. I forgot about John Rusty. Sorry. sorry. what kind of Rush fan am I? ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 14 Nov 95 3:21:42 EST From: Damon M. Fibraio To: email_address_removed Subject: Re: clearup Message-ID: Just to clear some stuff up. I don't just listen to 80s music. I listen to everything that holds some musical value to me, something that demonstrates musical ability and creativity. I like Pearl Jam. I like prog rock, I like 80s, I like 70s, I like oldies. I like some grunge and alternative. I am not implying that I just listent o prog rock and 80s music, because that's wrong. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 14 Nov 95 13:08:33 EET From: Victor Jason To: email_address_removed Cc: email_address_removed Subject: Re: fav drinks! Message-ID: Hi Jammers!!! I saw the drink deal and I thought that I'd drop a line in! My absolute favourite drink is ROOTBEER! it is the most cool stuff around! Preferably Barqs, not A&W. Coke is really good too, but you can't get Root- beer in finland. :( Bear -- Gather ye rose-buds while ye may, Old time is still a-flying: And this same flower that smiles to-day, To-morrow will be dying. -Robert Herrick ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 13 Nov 1995 23:19:17 -0500 From: email_address_removed To: email_address_removed Subject: WARNING DO NOT TRADE WITH SUSAN MOSCARDINI! Message-ID: PLEASE BEWARE OF THE PEOPLE YOU INTEND TO TRADE WITH. A WORD OF ADVISE GET THEIR PHONE NUMBERS BEFORE ANY AGREEMENTS ARE MADE. SOME OF US HAVE TO PAY THE PRICE FOR BEING HONEST PEOPLE. A PERSON TO BE AWRE OF IS SUSAN MOSCARDINI (email_address_removed) SHE FALSELY PROVIDED INFORMATION ABOUT HER VIDEO AUDIO COLLECTION IN ORDER TO BUILD IT UP. IN MY SITUATION SHE TOOK TO VIDEOS ($$$) AND SENT ME NOTHING IN RETURN. FOR A MONTH NOW I'VE BEEN WAITING FOR THESE VIDEOS-----BE WARNED OF PEOPLE LIKE THIS! NO ONE LIKES TO BE TAKEN ADVANTAGE SO DO WHAT YOU HAVE TO DO TO STOP THESE TYPE OF THINGS FROM HAPPENING!!!!!!!!!!!!!! GMSking ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 13 Nov 1995 21:37:29 -0800 From: email_address_removed (Michael Coghlan ) To: email_address_removed Subject: Re: DT and Covers? Well Let Me Tell You Message-ID: Let Me Tell You!: Here are two tunes I would love DT to cover: 1. the theme from Perry Mason 2. the (long standing) theme from the James Bond movies Well they did cover Mission Impossible. Please give this post to the band, these guys would tear these tunes up!. Whadda ya guys/girls think? Michael C. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 14 Nov 1995 09:50:50 -0500 (EST) From: "Abu Shams M. Ahmed" To: email_address_removed Subject: mistakes! Message-ID: hi all, this is not a dt story...in `92 just before I came to the states we "our band" did a charity concetr. we were a small time cover band who used to do all kinds of songs from the doors to savatage. anyway we were opening with the enter sandman and that was the first time that song was played by a band back home ( now every body does it) right after I kick in the distortion padel I lookup and after couple of notes I realize there's no sound from my guitar. then I realize there are couple of people from the audiance on the stage in front of us jumping like ping pong balls!.....and then I find out one of our "fans" kicked the padel and it was lying on the other side of the stage with my side of the jack dangling loose. so what do I do??? just imagine in the middle of the stage couple of people jumping around and a guy with a guitar kneeling and trying to find something:) man it was one of the scariest (then) and the funniest(now) moment of my life. thank God my partners played on and I think half the audience did not understand what was happening because of the ping pong balls in front of me ;) for dt mistake....I think at the biginning of pmu on the latm when john is doingthe acustic thing he hits two strings at the same time instead of one once. another thing ...after I heard james singing songs from the first album though I like james' voice but I think I disliked the other vocalists (sorry can't remember his name is it chris ?) because of the production/ sound quality of the first album. any thoughts ??? sorry for the long post have a good one Minhaz ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 13 Nov 1995 23:44:13 -0700 (MST) From: Michael Bahr To: email_address_removed Cc: email_address_removed Subject: CD update! WDATU #s included! Message-ID: LIMITED EDITION COMPACT DISCS Information and Update Current to 11/13/1995 Currently available: Rush "Cygnus" Currently open to pre-ordering: Dream Theater "When Dream and Today Unite" SOLD OUT: Dream Theater "Subconscious" Dream Theater "Acoustic Dreams" Coming soon: Dream Theater "Antiquities" Rush "Legends" Dream Theater "Scenes From a Memory" Public Affection (+Live+) "Death of a Dictionary" NOTE: INTERNET EMAIL ADDRESS CHANGE: I am now email_address_removed NEWS: I have changed packaging mailers at the request of some Jammers who received crushed packages of Acoustic Dreams. I hope the new padded bubble mailers work better. :) ============================================================================ DISCLAIMER: These recordings fall into a grey area of law as an uncopyrighted recording produced in such a manner that at least one facet of the production occurs in a country (namely Italy) in which it is legal to do so. In the USA, it is permissible to sell used import CDs only if they are labeled as such. This is such a CD. Be aware that the various powers-that-be are collecting nothing for this. ============================================================================ Of course, that's all cover-my-butt lawyerspeak. I hope you all will want to be a part of this. I make roughly minimum wage doing it, so you know I'm not out to scam you. In all humility, I appeal to anyone who might not think too kindly of my endeavor, and ask that they might give me the benefit of the doubt on this one. Friends? :) 1. What is Cygnus? 2. What is When Dream And Today Unite? 3. What is Antiquities? 4. What is the release schedule? 5. How can I get my own copy of one of these CDs? 6. Orders received for Acoustic Dreams and When Dream and Today Unite. ============================================================================ 1. What is Cygnus? Hi all! Allow me to introduce myself, if you aren't familiar with me yet. I'm Mike Bahr, humble maker of special-edition CDs. I noticed a lot of the mass-manufactured bootleg offerings were spiralling quite high in price and yet offered little for the die-hard fan, and I concocted a scheme by which I could make around minimum wage by producing CDs on my own, CDs that would fill the demand for REAL rarities and special songs, unreleased items, live shows, and the like. Basically, since no CD plant will print them for me, I have to rent studio and equipment time and do it myself. So far, it's working. :) Fortunately, and for this I am very relieved, my Subconscious CD has been incredibly well-received by the net community, especially the Ytsejam mailing list. I just do what I can do and leave the rest up to God, and I guess the Almighty isn't disappointing you folks. People from all walks of life, all countries of the world, both sexes, all races, and all religions have joined in on the limited edition CD projects, and I am very happy to have you all along for the ride. I'll keep making CDs as long as you folks are willing to keep buying them. Thanks so _very_ much... :) And now, I do have copies of Rush "Cygnus" CD remaining. There are not many. I implore you to get one now before they're gone, if you're a Rush fan and want this collector's item CD. It is a Rush recording from the mystical Hemispheres tour of 1978. I still have some copies available. It was recorded from a soundboard reel and the quality is comparable to that of Electric Ladyland '74. It's full stereo and the bass and vocals are very clear, the effects very defined, but the drum sound has heard better days. It's still better than 99% of all the Rush shows on tape, I can attest to that specifically. :) Track listing: 1. Anthem 2. A Passage to Bangkok 3. By-Tor and the Snow Dog -> i. At the Tobes of Hades ii. Across the Styx iii. Of the Battle 4. Xanadu 5. Something For Nothing (glitch at end, missing nearly nothing) 6. The Trees 7. Cygnus X-1 (dropout at end, missing last 16 secs before bells) 8. Cygnus X-1 Book II: Hemispheres i. Prelude ii. Apollo iii. Dionysus iv. Armageddon (dropout at end, missing ~40 secs of closing) v. Cygnus vi. The Sphere 9. Circumstances 10. A Farewell to Kings The dropouts aren't a big deal really, but in the interest of honesty I am pointing them out. They were on the master reel. Also, like Subconscious and Acoustic Dreams, this CD does not bear the name "Rush". It says "Cygnus" on the label and lists cover credits. Don't be fooled; it's Rush, just like the others are DT. It's for legal reasons. Before Italy started making boots in 1991, all US vinyl boots were the same way. 2. What is When Dream and Today Unite? This work, still in production, contains all the songs from When Dream and Day Unite, only performed live with James LaBrie at the helm. It should be released around Christmas. Here's the tracklisting: 1. A Fortune In Lies 2. Status Seeker 3. Ytsejam 4. Another Hand/The Killing Hand 5. Light Fuse and Get Away 6. Mission Impossible 7. Afterlife 8. The Ones Who Help to Set the Sun 9. Only A Matter Of Time 10. March of the Tyrant 11. To Live Forever 12. Moon Bubbles I've already begun accepting early orders for this, if you don't mind the wait. The details on ordering are below. All the performances from this, as many as could be, are from original performances not common on bootlegs. I did not use Live at the Marquee, Dance of Eternity, Lost in the Sky, or others like them, except that Status Seeker was only available in good quality on Dream Out Loud. I'm currently in the process of creating the CDs themselves. They will get sent for printing, emulsion inks, packaging, and liner printing at the end of November, setting me up for a Christmas release. The CD printing plants are a bit overbooked just now because of the spring release schedules, so this might take a little longer... but I expect no undue problems. After all, somehow, Acoustic Dreams made it out on schedule, hard as it was. 3. What is Antiquities? This one is just now taking shape from being a primordial ooze of proteins and algae into a finished, gleaming, streamlined CD. I'll have more details on it here as it gets developed. The master tapes are already being prepared to be made into a single master, and I've got an artist hard at work on the cover, as well as contracting for CD plant pressing time. Man, it sucks to have to do stuff this far in advance to get a CD out on time! :) So far, loosely slated for inclusion are: . A Change of Seasons with Chris Cintron on vocals, demo . The remaining (not already released by me) vocalist auditions . The outtakes from Live at the Marquee (Glass Moon, Ytsejam) . A handful of errata, extra stuff, weird edits, and the like. 4. What is the release schedule? Here is the current schedule of releases as I see it (all dates estimated): NOW - Rush: "Cygnus" released/shipping NOW - Dream Theater: "When Dream and Today Unite" ordering begins 12/15/1995 - Dream Theater: "Antiquities" ordering begins (TENTATIVE) 12/25/1995 - Dream Theater: "When Dream and Today Unite" released/shipping 01/15/1996 - Rush: "Legends" ordering begins 02/01/1996 - Dream Theater: "Scenes From a Memory" ordering begins 02/15/1996 - Public Affection: "Death of a Dictionary" ordering begins 02/15/1996 - Dream Theater: "Antiquities" released/shipping 02/30/1996 - Rush: "Legends" released/shipping 03/17/1996 - Dream Theater: "Scenes From a Memory" released/shipping 03/30/1996 - Public Affection: "Death of a Dictionary" released/shipping 04/--/1996 - Live or Type O-Negative: To be announced 05/--/1996 - Dream Theater: To be announced Here are a few descriptions to keep your curiosity satiated :) Dream Theater "Subconscious" Released 04/03/1995 - Limited Edition - 500 copies - sold out Contained Dream Theater rarities including A Change of Seasons. All copies were hand initialed/numbered in gold for authenticity. Rush "Cygnus" Released 08/14/1995 - Limited Edition - 1000 copies - still available Contains a rare soundboard show from the Hemispheres tour. Dream Theater "Acoustic Dreams" Released 09/30/1995 - Limited Edition of 500 copies - sold out Each copy is hand signed/numbered in silver for authenticity. Contains beautiful unplugged performances. Dream Theater "When Dream and Today Unite" To be released 12/25/1995 - Limited print of either 500 or 1000. Contains the songs from Dream and Day only with James LaBrie on vocals. Collected from MANY sources and optimized for quality. Dream Theater "Antiquities" To be released 02/15/1996 - Limited print of either 500 or 1000. Each copy will be hand signed/numbered for authenticity. Will contain vocalist auditions, demos, errata, outtakes, unfinished works, unreleased tracks, and the like. Rush "Legends" Details TBA - Limited print of 500 copies, MIGHT be 2CD set. Each copy will probably be authenticated. Contains a SOUNDBOARD SHOW FROM THE COUNTERPARTS TOUR! YEAH! Dream Theater "Scenes From a Memory" Details TBA - Limited print of 500 copies. Each copy will be hand signed/numbered for authenticity. This could wind up being any of four or five different shows or song collections, as there are a few soundboard tapes I'm working on to try and get a good sound out of them. Public Affection "The Death of a Dictionary" Details TBA - Unlimited print Is actually +Live+'s little-known first album, released in 1989, two years before their 1991 breakthrough Mental Jewelry. Demand for this one is skyrocketing, and the Jam gets first shot at it. The only thing stopping it right at the moment is the overwhelming demand for the DT discs and the lack of manpower on my end. This *will* be released before too much longer. The following are all "Work in Progress" releases... Rush "A Symptom of Life" - from 12/20/81 2nd gen soundboard Contains a LOT of neat stuff. a LOT. But very long... 2 CD set? Rush "Concordant Crossroads" - from 3/24/81 audience MASTER in stereo This one has unbelievable good sound quality. It's a tossup whether to take this or Symptom, since both are so good but so similar. Rush "The Age of Wonders" - from a remastered 6/25/75 Toronto This tour has been very underrepresented in available material, so who knows, if S.H.'s cleanup efforts turn out good... +Live+ "Disenchanting Discourse" - from a 10/25/94 audience MASTER in stereo It might be released, it might not, depending on many things. If you would like to see it released, please let me know and let as many people know as you can. I tend to find ways to release things when I find an overwhelming demand for them. :) I also have an audience DAT from 8/8/95, which is pretty damn good. I may synthesize the two shows to get all the "Rare" songs onto the CD. (Freaks, Supernatural, Breakin' Up, Jewelry songs, etc.) Type O-Negative "Deathgrip" - from a 5/30/94 audience MASTER in stereo A great setlist and decent sound. Only my worries about how many copies I can sell prevent this. I can't undertake anything less than a potential sellout project or I risk going under. Again, if this is a title you'd like to see, you can make it happen. All I need is a lot of interest, and away we go! So far I've had a few positive replies... much much more are needed though. Dream Theater... oh who knows, there's so much good stuff. 5. How can I order a copy of one of these CDs? As stated before, I'm already shipping the CDs by and by. I ship orders in the order I received your checks, so those of you who sent your mail around when ordering began, those will be the first CDs out the door. I usually get a couple dozen a day into the mail. Be sure to correct this against the release schedule... e.g. I'm caught up on Cygnus so those will turn around fast. Acoustic Dreams is still in a queue and I'm crankin those out as fast as possible. WDATU is still in pre-order and won't ship until the end of December anyhow. Feel free to e-mail me to reserve a copy for you, so that your mail will have a copy allocated to it already (and not be a victim of "no-more- disc-syndrome"). The numbering, excepting special requests when possible, will fill in the order I receive the mail orders. It's only fair after all. I'll reserve a copy for someone over e-mail, but if thirty people get their orders in before he or she does, it's not fair for me to still hold copy #014 or whatever. You all get the idea... these decisions are just in the effort to make it fair for all. Note: Cygnus was not numbered, nor will Public Affection be. All others so far are numbered for authenticity. Please, I stress to all of you, don't miss these if you missed Subconscious and Acoustic Dreams. It really does pain me to have to tell a fellow DT fan that there simply aren't any more Sub discs to be had, especially because I would be MORE than glad to sell one if I had it. The pricing for all the CDs so far is as follows ($2 discount for Cygnus if you're on the Jam.) Base cost: $25.00 US Additional postage USA free Additional postage Canada / Mex $1.00 US Additional postage Scandinavia $3.00 US * Additional postage Europe / UK $4.00 US Additional postage Japan $5.00 US Additional postage Aus/NZ/etc. $5.00 US * Scandinavia includes Norway, Sweden, Finland, Denmark. For some reason postal rates are lower than for mainland Europe or the UK. Postal rates were changed, but the postage cost MUST ONLY BE PAID ONCE. If you live in Europe and you order 4 discs, the cost is $104.00 US ($25.00 x 4, plus $4.00 postage) and not $116.00 US. Thus, if you have friends who want copies, I am more than willing to help you out. :) So no matter how many CDs you want, only add the postage cost Once. Things are pretty simple from here. Send along a money order for $25 bucks to my address, being sure to include a note with your name, the address to ship to, your email address, and WHICH CDs you're ordering so I know which ones to send you...... and HOW MANY you're ordering. As before, international customers may use whatever means of payment is most convenient for them, though I stress that sending cash is risky and should not be a first option, but a backup plan. :) CHECKS: I don't really mind them, but in the effort to be seen as a serious and responsible net merchant, I always recommend the traceable-both-ways Money Order as a preferred form of payment. So while checks are perfectly OK, they may or may not be the option you choose to take. Please make out checks and money orders to me, Michael Bahr. The address and so on is me at: Mike Bahr - Cygnus (or WDATU) 3175 N. Price Rd. #1066 Chandler, AZ 85224 My home telephone number, available as a courtesy to you, is 1-602-777-0501. I am usually not home on weekends (band practice) so try during the week, between 6pm and 11pm pacific time, for best results. Also, please use discretion when handling this number, as it is, after all, my own home phone, and I will be very confused if a stranger calls at 3:00 AM. :) I trust you Jammers to be cool about it, as you always have in the past. Also... watch your time zones! I had one fellow calling at 6:00 AM. Owch! 6. Orders received. READ THE PARAGRAPH BELOW. A LOT OF YOU DID NOT READ IT AND MAILED ME WITHOUT UNDERSTANDING IT. READ IT. This is NOT "reservations"... it's paid-for orders. If you have a reservation, it's still valid, trust me. :) These are just the numbers that are filled. Also there are a handful of "saved numbers" in there. Acoustic Dreams 001 Master 002 Press Master A 003 Press Master B 004 Mike Bahr 005 Justin Poulter 006 Steve McMaster 007 David Fox 008 Robert Dalton 009 John Kotzian 010 Michael Burstin 011 Brian Cox 012 Scott Hansen 013 Mike Portnoy 014 Mike Portnoy 015 Mike Portnoy 016 Bracken MacLeod 017 John Nguyen 018 Nathan Bradley 019 Jeremy Smith 020 Todd Masek 021 Graham Borland 022 Mark Tedhams 023 Brian Fieg 024 Adam Japhet 025 Steve Chew 026 Kristian Reyes 027 Alan Wilds 028 Jeff Stewart 029 Matt McIntosh 030 Brian Polka 031 Stephan Dobay 032 Dale Newberry 033 Scott Hansen 034 Sanjeev Ghai 035 Sanjeev Ghai 036 Mike Robinson 037 Paul Poehler 038 Lisa Gaunt 039 Tracy Mangum 040 Jeff Forte 041 Robert Castilone 042 Bracken Odiorne 043 Jean-Francois Cote' 044 Uffe Moller 045 Steve Esterle 046 Chad Smith 047 Scott McCammon 048 David Edwards 049 Craig Newmeyer 050 Partha Mukhopadhyay 051 Dave Silva 052 Dave Silva 053 Dave Silva 054 Dave Silva 055 Robert MacAusland 056 Jason Breitweg 057 Demetris Papallis 058 Adam Marshall 059 Paul Goracke 060 Andrew Garinger 061 Alex Fraser 062 Uffe Moller 063 Fred Ward 064 Matt Masi 065 Iwahori Tomonori 066 Iwahori Tomonori 067 Michael Backof 068 Brian Ross 069 Anna Davidson 070 Kjetil Nordahl 071 Kjetil Nordahl 072 Kjetil Nordahl 073 Bill Wrightson 074 S. Johnson 075 Jaison John 076 Jaison John 077 Craig Newmeyer 078 Paul Humm 079 Jay Miller 080 Astrid De Ronde 081 Jason MacDonald 082 Scott Kuennen 083 Scott Kuennen 084 Rick Beem 085 Mike Ringelstetter 086 Conrad Chi 087 Brian Kirk 088 Brian Adams 089 Chris Freel 090 Chris Freel 091 Patrick Davis 092 Dave Fausel 093 Chris Derobertis 094 Sean Brady 095 S. Craig Caldwell 096 Andrew Stiles 097 Gregory Bunker 098 Eddie Webb 099 Edwin Million 100 Jenn Albert 101 Jenn Albert 102 Jeff Hill 103 Mike Olekshy 104 David Delmont 105 Derek Bober 106 Adam Japhet 107 Jamie Burks 108 George Fan 109 Tony Maglia 110 Stephen Soukup 111 Sookapat Niyomthai 112 David DeSalvo 113 Randy Haskin 114 Jennifer Sharward 115 Bryan Hunter 116 Bryan Hunter 117 Todd Dakin 118 J. R. McCullough 119 Jeff Chew 120 Patrick Sullivan 121 Patrick Sullivan 122 Pete Dziadzka 123 Ken Bibb 124 Jason Russell 125 Gary Ake 126 Bernd Basmer 127 Stefan Sutter 128 Chad Cook 129 Jason Danio 130 Brandon Elhai 131 Mathew Yee 132 Eric Gauthier 133 Eric Gauthier 134 Wilco Barg 135 Joe Kruger 136 Rob Pociluk 137 Brenden Thomson 138 Marton Stromgald 139 Asif Khan 140 Jarrod Ramsey-Lewis 141 Jon Kretschmer 142 Jon Kretschmer 143 Michael Pomerleau 144 Ronald Tijhuis 145 Bill Nottingham 146 James Garrett 147 Reenoitnevnoc 148 Stephane Auzilleau 149 Stephane Auzilleau 150 Stephane Auzilleau 151 Stephane Auzilleau 152 Bear Jason 153 Ken Hugo Hoili 154 Paul Cashman 155 Shigeru Yamashita 156 Brian Ross 157 Takumi Akiyama 158 John Sievers 159 David Russum 160 David Russum 161 David Russum 162 Stefan Rau 163 Stefan Rau 164 Martin Hayter 165 Martin Hayter 166 Eugene Szucs 167 Warren Williams 168 Tilman Kuendgen 169 Tilman Kuendgen 170 Tilman Kuendgen 171 Chad Preston 172 Gregory Cole 173 Heath Augustover 174 Chris Fyhr 175 Chris Fyhr 176 Chris Fyhr 177 Bill Huston 178 Tim Jensen 179 James Abraham 180 Jeffrey Smith 181 Michael Coghlan 182 Brett Owens 183 David Kobayashi 184 Elliott Kim 185 Ed Polzin 186 Sean Gill 187 Tim Altman 188 Alexis Ramos 189 James Daugherty 190 Jon Heller 191 George Bast 192 Paul Cashman 193 Ramin Miraftabi 194 Stacie Rosenzweig 195 Ryan Whitaker 196 Brian Vivier 197 Kevin Villines 198 Mike Rapazzo 199 Koby Fuessler 200 Merieke Ri Berit 201 Chris Pokladnik 202 Ties Gobel 203 Ties Gobel 204 Chuck Hanley 205 Yuji Miyazaki 206 Chad David 207 Chad David 208 Chad David 209 Bill Polymenakos 210 Greg Sands 211 Greg Sands 212 Ryan Park 213 Evelyn Lauer 214 James Abraham 215 Jun-Dai Bates 216 Carmen Pezzone 217 Carmen Pezzone 218 Tom Tubbiola 219 Ryan Skadberg 220 Ryan Skadberg 221 Patricia McLoughlin 222 Jacob Caminati 223 Rob Schenk 224 Carmen Pezzone 225 Jason Russell 226 Kevin Czarnecki 227 Randall Braun 228 Eric Marlett 229 Richie Rivera 230 David Hafke 231 Greg Pickesimer 232 Itchak Schwarzbard 233 Brian Anderson 234 Brian Anderson 235 David Carver 236 Matthew Berger 237 James Delaney 238 Matt Palzewicz 239 Mark Metzger 240 Chris Mahaffey 241 John Jens 242 John Jens 243 Jan-Michael Souter 244 Andreas Kasper 245 Stuart Booth 246 Jan Melander 247 Brian Diefenderfer 248 Jon Gibbens 249 Tim Villa 250 Brian Vivier 251 Rick Atkinson 252 Steve Chenevey 253 Evan Thomson 254 Evan Thomson 255 Evan Thomson 256 Mike Stoner 257 Brandon Vaughn 258 Dobronte Gabor 259 Dobronte Gabor 260 David Thornton 261 Dan Licon 262 Ken Maupin 263 Eiji Hirai 264 Jun-Dai Bates 265 Jeff Windle 266 Jeff Windle 267 Jeff Windle 268 Jun-Dai Bates 269 Steve Balderrama 270 Wade Craig 271 Nick Pitfield 272 Dave Plotkin 273 Howard Wiener 274 Scott Cook 275 Mark Stahl 276 Siegfried Hanisch 277 Siegfried Hanisch 278 Siegfried Hanisch 279 Jeremy Murray 280 Jonathan Larkowski 281 Sylvain Jacques 282 Sylvain Jacques 283 Sylvain Jacques 284 Sylvain Jacques 285 Damian Allis 286 Mark Ruenes 287 Andrew Schiller 288 Joe Jurczyk 289 William Barry 290 Matt Mommaerts 291 Mark Stahl 292 Mark Contrady 293 Steffen Barabasch 294 Steffen Barabasch 295 Olaf Bode 296 Marcel Berkhout 297 Marcel Berkhout 298 Raquel Darrian 299 James Runde 300 James Runde 301 Ryan Redfern 302 Ke Xu 303 John Mastin 304 John Mastin 305 Mike Bradley 306 Christopher Onjian 307 Scott Jensen 308 Colin Housing 309 Chris Crowder 310 Craig Erskine 311 Curt Harman 312 Meghan Middleton 313 Evelyn Lauer 314 Richard Fraser 315 Mike Costic 316 Fernando Ma 317 Fernando Ma 318 John D'Alessandro 319 Mark D'Alessandro 320 Sean Haider 321 Adam Bertapelle 322 Bafu Vai 323 William Rollo 324 Kevin Johnson 325 Marko Ollila 326 Bill Engels 327 George Paradis 328 David Olson 329 Anton Max 330 Philip Jason 331 Jim Dove 332 Andrew Martin 333 Jacob Caminati 334 Dan Carlisle 335 Mike Stover 336 Richard Bradley 337 Pierre Dupree 338 Doug Merrell 339 Oliver Smith 340 Dana Boisvert 341 Bafu Vai 342 David Klem 343 Christopher Hailey 344 Jason Crowgey 345 Steve Mandamadiotis 346 James Grace 347 Andrew Miller 348 Robert Quezada 349 Chris Oates 350 Keith Aspinall 351 Paul Fini 352 George Szumski 353 George Szumski 354 Christopher Merlo 355 Bill Buckley 356 Bill Buckley 357 Eric Mauger 358 Brandon Padgett 359 Jimmy Hall 360 Andrew Keegan 361 Mario de Riso 362 Jonah Lin 363 Matt Kuehn 364 Jodi Lind 365 Shamus McConney 366 Darrell Bishop 367 Adam Forsyth 368 Adam Forsyth 369 Chris Sandridge 370 Kaoru Kobayashi 371 Kaoru Kobayashi 372 Kaoru Kobayashi 373 Kaoru Kobayashi 374 Kaoru Kobayashi 375 Kaoru Kobayashi 376 Kaoru Kobayashi 377 Kaoru Kobayashi 378 Kaoru Kobayashi 379 Kaoru Kobayashi 380 Kaoru Kobayashi 381 Kaoru Kobayashi 382 Kaoru Kobayashi 383 Kaoru Kobayashi 384 Kaoru Kobayashi 385 Kaoru Kobayashi 386 Kaoru Kobayashi 387 Kaoru Kobayashi 388 Kaoru Kobayashi 389 Kaoru Kobayashi 390 Kaoru Kobayashi 391 Charlie Farrell 392 Mats Rydstrom 393 David Neff 394 Bernd Schweizer 395 Jim Beavens 396 Aaron Castillo 397 Aaron Castillo 398 Chris Purdy 399 Michael Ibach 400 Matt Pastor 401 Hairball 402 David Papineau 403 Al Balkiewicz 404 Al Balkiewicz 405 Philip Jason 406 Joe Lukas 407 Richard James 408 Michael Van Opstall 409 Greg Severine 410 Antoni Krasinski 411 Edwin Reed 412 Keith Aspinall 413 Ed Weiland 414 G. Jack Thetygi 415 Andy Tillotson 416 Scott Baird 417 Aaron Smith 418 Jeffrey Furry 419 David Rogers 420 Darren Brown 421 Darren Brown 422 Everett Painter 423 Kris Claerhout 424 David Swanston 425 L. Morris 426 Stefan Sutter 427 Ryan Brown 428 Matthias Murra 429 Matthias Murra 430 Matthias Murra 431 Johan Ringman 432 Johan Ringman 433 Johan Ringman 434 Johan Ringman 435 Johan Ringman 436 Johan Ringman 437 Adam Ensinger 438 Neil Evans 439 Dave Wruck 440 Jim Golding 441 Christopher Merlo 442 John Hough 443 David Zagar 444 Jacob Caminati 445 Paul Fini 446 Trey Allen 447 James Utz 448 James Utz 449 Steve Jacobsen 450 Richard Karsmakers 451 Richard Karsmakers 452 Jason Skewes 453 Till Wagner 454 Till Wagner 455 Till Wagner 456 Till Wagner 461 Stephane Auzilleau 462 Stephane Auzilleau 463 Stephane Auzilleau 464 Stephane Auzilleau 465 Stephane Auzilleau 466 Stephane Auzilleau 467 Stephane Auzilleau 468 Stephane Auzilleau 469 Stephane Auzilleau 470 Stephane Auzilleau 475 Joe Losby 481 Stephane Auzilleau 482 Stephane Auzilleau 483 Stephane Auzilleau 484 Stephane Auzilleau 485 Stephane Auzilleau 486 Stephane Auzilleau 487 Stephane Auzilleau 488 Stephane Auzilleau 489 Stephane Auzilleau 490 Stephane Auzilleau 495 Stephane Auzilleau 496 Zach Gemmill 497 Zach Gemmill 498 Zach Gemmill 499 Zach Gemmill 500 Melissa Bentheusen Prototypes: Sean Brady, Neil Elliott, [please mail me if you have a special prototype copy. You'll know if you do.] Information: The orders for Kaoru and Stephane are being bought as a group order for others in their home country, not a huge order to keep for later. So those of you who may have missed out, don't misunderstand and think that I was letting people buy out all the copies and keep them from the rest of the fans... quite the opposite: Kaoru and Stephane got copies to people who didn't have a chance to order it themselves, or when it was too costly. When Dream and Today Unite orders received: (I'm still trying to get this right. Mention it to me if I biffed.) * reserved but not paid. All others are paid. 001 Master 002 Press Master A 003 Press Master B 004 Mike Bahr 005 Justin Poulter 006 Steve McMaster 007 David Fox 008 Robert Dalton 009 John Kotzian 010 Michael Burstin 011 Brian Cox 012 Scott Hansen 013 Mike Portnoy 014 Mike Portnoy 015 Mike Portnoy 016 Johan Moore 017 Brandon Beach 018 Mike Engelhardt 019 Taz 020 Chris Crowder 021 Ken Hoili 022 Dave Delmont 023 David Thornton 024 Steve Soukup 025 Jason Breitweg 026 Dan Temmesfeld 027 Chris White 028 Stephan Dobay 029 Andrew Garinger 030 Edwin Million 031 Patrick Davis 032 Scott Luttringer 033 Joe Cristina 034 Jeff Stewart 035 Mark Stahl 036 Rebecca Floyd 037 Wild Dave Kobayashi 038 Stefan Rau 039 Michael Backof 040 Richard Bradley 041 Jeffrey Smith 042 Bill Wrightson 043 Jeff Seifert 044 Stefan Sutter 045 Paul Fini 046 Jason Skewes 047 Jennifer Sharward 048 Rick Beem 049 Wilco Barg 050 Paul Humm 051 Elliott Kim 052 Scott Cook 053 Ed Polzin 054 Uffe Moller 055 Uffe Moller 056 Brian Anderson 057 Brian Anderson 058 Eiji Hirai 059 Bill Buckley 060 Bill Buckley 061 George Bast 062 Mark Contrady 063 Scott Kuennen 064 Rachel Goldenberg 065 Partha Mukhopadhyay 066 Bill Huston 067 Joe Jurczyk 068 Rich Palladino 069 Jenn Albert 070 Greg Bunker 071 Greg Bunker 072 Sean Haider 076 David Swanston 201 *Stephane Auzilleau 202 *Stephane Auzilleau 203 *Stephane Auzilleau 204 *Stephane Auzilleau 205 *Stephane Auzilleau 206 *Stephane Auzilleau 207 *Stephane Auzilleau 208 *Stephane Auzilleau 209 *Stephane Auzilleau 210 *Stephane Auzilleau 211 *Stephane Auzilleau 212 *Stephane Auzilleau 213 *Stephane Auzilleau 214 *Stephane Auzilleau 215 *Stephane Auzilleau 216 *Stephane Auzilleau 217 *Stephane Auzilleau 218 *Stephane Auzilleau 219 *Stephane Auzilleau 220 *Stephane Auzilleau 221 *Kaoru Kobayashi 222 *Kaoru Kobayashi 223 *Kaoru Kobayashi 224 *Kaoru Kobayashi 225 *Kaoru Kobayashi 226 *Kaoru Kobayashi 227 *Kaoru Kobayashi 228 *Kaoru Kobayashi 229 *Kaoru Kobayashi 230 *Kaoru Kobayashi 231 *Kaoru Kobayashi 232 *Kaoru Kobayashi 233 *Kaoru Kobayashi 234 *Kaoru Kobayashi 235 *Kaoru Kobayashi 236 *Kaoru Kobayashi 237 *Kaoru Kobayashi 238 *Kaoru Kobayashi 239 *Kaoru Kobayashi 240 *Kaoru Kobayashi 303 John Mastin 304 John Mastin 420 Darren Brown 421 Darren Brown 427 Ryan Brown 496 Zach Gemmill 497 Zach Gemmill 498 Zach Gemmill 499 Zach Gemmill 500 Riana Karel 666 Mark Metzger If you see something that just isn't true, please let me know. :) -Mike Bahr, email_address_removed Magic: The Gathering - Bolt a Blinking Spirit... again, dammit! "Boy you'd love to turn that little blue girl upside down..." - Tori Amos ------------------------------ End of YTSEJAM Digest 1129 **************************