YTSEJAM Digest 1122 Today's Topics: 1) Re: Kansas by email_address_removed 2) Re: Virtual Music Quiz by email_address_removed 3) Re: Kansas by email_address_removed (drogers) 4) Japanese PPV video by "Roy Marquez" 5) Psycho Flange. Er... ACoS & Covers by Mad dog 6) Scarred (again) by Brian Wherry 7) Ben's Visual Music... by Brian Wherry 8) Lighten up! by "Dan R. Licon" 9) Re: More Savatage (more NDTC) by Andrew Keegan 10) Re: YJ #1117 (epilogue) by Damon M. Fibraio 11) time to vent! (well, maybe just a little) by email_address_removed 12) Random Stuff ..... by "Ryan P. Skadberg" 13) ATTN: WISCONSIN JAMMERS! by Andrew Howard Martin 14) Re: Ytse and Jam explained by email_address_removed (Adam H. Marshall) 15) Re: Kansas by Chad Benjamin Preston 16) Legalities surrounding band names (ndtc) by The Digital Man 17) Japanese version of Awake by Jaime Kimpton 18) Re: YTSEJAM digest 1119 by David Papineau 19) AD dubsite by email_address_removed.CA 20) Re: YTSEJAM digest 1120 by David Papineau 21) Vocals & Visual Music by Steve Borzilleri 22) Re: DT symbol by email_address_removed ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Fri, 10 Nov 1995 14:50:50 +0000 From: email_address_removed To: email_address_removed Subject: Re: Kansas Message-ID: > I realize most of you already have heard Kansas, but I have to say it. > They are a lot like Dream theater except less heavy. Really, they are just > about the only light music I can stand. I own Monolith which I really like. > Can anyone suggest some other great albums they've produced? Based on this > one album they are in my top 5 band ever. > > David Olson > email_address_removed If you want heavier stuff, try their live albums. "Live at the Whiskey" might be hard to find, but you'll love it. Leftoverture is generally considered their best album, and I won't argue that point. Song for America is great - extremely progressive stuff, along with some bluesy/jazzy songs. Their latest album, "Freaks of Nature" is pretty good too, and has some rockin' songs. Truly, if you like Monolith, you'll like all of their stuff. Mike Stover email_address_removed http://home.eznet.net/~spider/spider.htm "He who can copy, can do" - Leonardo Da Vinci ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 10 Nov 1995 14:50:50 +0000 From: email_address_removed To: email_address_removed Subject: Re: Virtual Music Quiz Message-ID: > Okay, here's one. Hint: It's not Dream Theater (you don't like it??? > Go bugger a hedgehog, okay. Smeghead. (: ) but it is prog. > > bip bip bip bip bip > > boop boop boop boop boop boop bzzt! I'll take a crack at this one: The Ms. Packman arcade game? Right after you've eaten the banana on the fifth board, and then get tagged by the bad guys. Seriously guys, this thread is bizarre! Mike Stover email_address_removed http://home.eznet.net/~spider/spider.htm "He who can copy, can do" - Leonardo Da Vinci ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 10 Nov 1995 13:12:54 -0600 From: email_address_removed (drogers) To: email_address_removed Subject: Re: Kansas Message-ID: >Date: Fri, 10 Nov 1995 00:28:00 -0500 (CDT) >Subject: Kansas > I realize most of you already have heard Kansas, but I have to say it. >They are a lot like Dream theater except less heavy. >Can anyone suggest some other great albums they've produced? > > David Olson > email_address_removed David, Leftoverture is a good album. It is well produced and fairly progressive. It has the song "Carry On Wayward Son" that is part of "The Big Medley" on ACOS. There are some better songs than that on the cd. cordially, David Rogers As breathing is my life, I dare not dare to stop.--John Lennon ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 10 Nov 1995 11:23:35 +0000 From: "Roy Marquez" To: email_address_removed Subject: Japanese PPV video Message-ID: <9511101921.AA60447@lausd.k12.ca.us> Hi. My friend and I are looking for a dub of this video. Would anyone be nice enough to help out two DT-material-poor fans? Thanks! Roy and Jose ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 10 Nov 1995 13:13:07 -0700 (MST) From: Mad dog To: ytsejam Subject: Psycho Flange. Er... ACoS & Covers Message-ID: in 'Jam 1120, that killing hand guy wrote: >Anyway, the other thing I discovered is that it seems that James redid >the vocals for Turn It On Again. The ACOS version doesn't really >match with the actual performance. I haven't really sat down and >listen to the whole tape, comparing it to all of the ACOS versions >but I wouldn't be surprised if they did it on other spots on ACOS. Sorry, but I don't believe this. I cannot fathom why anybody would want the vocals done on that song to be heard ever again, let alone released on CD, unless thats the real thing. I mean, if they were gonna replace the vocals, then James could sing with some emotion, with some energy, I mean seriously. I was gonna rant and stuff about the vocals on the rest of the covers, and about how if/when I have the power, I will make it either highly illegal for covers to be recorded. They are wrong. Evil. They're like CDs and bad acid, not for production or consumption. Oh yeah. But I wont rant about that. Of all the people who have recently been claiming_to_be/ asking_if_they_were unique in liking/not_liking a song, knowing about a band, ect, I probably have something none of you can touch. I have listened to ACoS like once in the last 3 or 4 weeks. Top that. The problem is that I don't like the covers, and while the title song is amazing, I neither like it as much as previous versions nor have a great urge to listen to it recently. When I do listen to it, it is great, save a few parts that really bug me. However, it seems to be missing that something that will make me pick that CD over someother one... A "Mad dog shaven head bottle boy Freak" aka John Haveman --------------------------------------------------------------- prayed the rain to keep up, but it kept coming down... _the rain kept falling in love_ - The Seventy Sevens ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 10 Nov 1995 15:40:55 -0500 (EST) From: Brian Wherry To: DT List Subject: Scarred (again) Message-ID: Have any of you musician/band-member ytsejammers attempted to play Scarred with your bands? I think I may just have to do something about this "Scarred has never been played live" thing..... Allright, I've got it!! Instead of having a little get-together before one (or all) of the December shows, we (the ytsejammer musicians) will simply have to open for DT, and play Scarred, Innocence Faded, and all of WDADU!!!! (I'm sure Buck is behind me on this one...) Later! Brian ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 10 Nov 1995 15:56:28 -0500 (EST) From: Brian Wherry To: DT List Subject: Ben's Visual Music... Message-ID: That last one-- I've seen that in a few different places 1. In CiaW right before where Mike usually goes into the drum solo live. 2. In The Ytsejam, at the end of the little drum solo part. 3. In ACoS, at 1:44:50 (one minute, 44 and a half seconds into the friggin' thing) -- except only the last two sextuplets of those you mentioned. 4. In The Ytsejam, a little before the first key solo, except that one isn't a descending tom thing and it's straight sixteenth notes, done kinda polyrhythmically, if you know what I mean (he alternates between the snare and a tom for each set of four, and then two on the feet). There are probably many more.... Later! Brian ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 10 Nov 1995 13:59:11 -0800 (PST) From: "Dan R. Licon" To: email_address_removed Subject: Lighten up! Message-ID: New AIC is cool as hell, but here is something cooler. > Jesus and Moses were up in heaven observing the plight of mankind. > Moses said to Jesus, " I think we better go down there and make an > appearance to give the people some hope." > So as they were traveling to earth, Jesus said, "remember the good > old days when we used to do things of Biblical proportions and they > wrote about us." > Moses said, " Yeah! In fact we should do something just for old > times sake." > They proceeded to the Red Sea, and Moses raised his arms and parted > the waters of the sea. He then lowered his arms and the sea came > together. " God that felt good" he replied. > Jesus then said, "I feel like doing something. I think I shall walk > across the water." > As he was walking across the water, he started sinking deeper and > deeper with every step. He turned to look at Moses with a confused > look, then Moses replied, "Remember Jesus, the last time you did > that, you didn't have those holes in your feet." Lighten up, it's only life! /----------------------------------------------------------------------------/ \ Dan Licon- email_address_removed \ /****************************************************************************/ \ "Everything you need is around you, the only danger is in your mind" \ / -Dream Theather, THE MIRROR / \ \ / "I know nothing of god.... or the devil" / \ -Armand, Interview with the Vampire \ /----------------------------------------------------------------------------/ ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 10 Nov 1995 19:01:26 -0500 (EST) From: Andrew Keegan To: email_address_removed Cc: Multiple recipients of list Subject: Re: More Savatage (more NDTC) Message-ID: On Fri, 10 Nov 1995 email_address_removed wrote: > > Yes, and just to confuse us even further: one of the two new guitarists > is actually an old guitarist. Christopher Caffery was a member of > Savatage during the Gutter Ballet days. I didn't notice a 2nd guitarist. I only noticed Al Pitrelli, but none of the 4 people in the picture looks like him. > > And Jon Oliva is now back in the band after a two-album leave of absence > (even though he continued to write and produce and even play some stuff), > but he's not pictured with the band or directly listed with the rest of > the band members inside the DWD CD jacket...but he IS pictured in the > Japanese release. Why is that? I thought Jon and Paul O'Neil wrote *most* of the last 2 albums? I've only recently discovered Savatage, and I wonder why Jon Oliva wasn't part of the band anymore while still maintaining quite a bit of creative control. > No. It's all new. It's a rock opera that vocalist Zachary Stevens wrote > about the war in Bosnia. Again, I thought Oliva and O'Neil wrote ALL of Dead Winter Dead. I lent the CD out, so I can't check. > > And now that we have finally gotten this all straightened out: go out and > buy the album! It's great! (I still don't think it surpasses Mindcrime > in any way, though--sorry, Howard) Yes- go out and buy the album! Andy ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 10 Nov 95 20:30:27 EST From: Damon M. Fibraio To: email_address_removed Subject: Re: YJ #1117 (epilogue) Message-ID: Am I the only one who understood the Grue joke in Bafu's post? And secondly, where in the hell did you get that name Bafu Vai? You fucking idiot. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 10 Nov 95 20:55:28 CST From: email_address_removed To: email_address_removed Subject: time to vent! (well, maybe just a little) Message-ID: OK, time to vent. Why is it that people can't figure out how to unsubscribe? I'm tired of seeing all the dumb*ss emails from whining jerks requesting that they be removed from the list. For starters, if you want to unsubscribe, do so; and do it as instructed in the email you recieved when you first subscribed to the list. I don't know about the rest of you, but I could care less about someone's reasons for leaving the list; what's the point in posting them? Also, I want to give a big thumbs up to Bafu Vai for the YTSE & JAM chronicles. Pardon the harsh obscenity, but FUCK the people that whined about this. They're the ones that need to take a closer look at what was being said. I personally found the whole thing hilarious and well worth the time spent reading it. Ok, I DO have some DT content in this email. Does anyone know if there are any keyboard transcriptions to anything off of Images and Words? Preferably Metropolis? I would be eternally grateful. (Hopefully this question hasn't been asked before, I've only been on the list for a month). Please email me privately. Thanks for the time. Andy Miller "Followed by death life is but a blink in the eye of the beholder which leaves one with the thought what fragment of life is missed when for an instant we are blind?" -Me (heck, everyone quotes DT) ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 11 Nov 1995 00:03:06 -0500 (EST) From: "Ryan P. Skadberg" To: email_address_removed Subject: Random Stuff ..... Message-ID: Hey all ... Well, been real busy and haven't had time to post, but I am actually caught up on jams for once. First, big thanks go to Mike Bahr, Mike Burstin, and Jason Giles. I had a wonderful chock full o'dt week and half because of you guys. Got my copy of AD, Kev's demos (finally) and my Ytsejam shirt. They all just rock. I LOVE Acoustic Dreams. It's just amazing. Nothing more to say. No long review :) As for Kev's demos, I really like em. I think its a real interesting direction and I can't wait to hear the new demos as soon as we can get dubs :) The Ytsejam Tshirts are very cool too. I love how they look and the Glow in the Dark "Let the light surround you" is cool. Oh, question on Kev's demos. I know this has prolly been asked 1,000 times before, but what album is Song for Eric originally on? New CDs. Well, I have bought way too many CDs in the last week. I've gotten the New Alice in Chains, Tori - Little Earthquakes, Iron Maiden - X Factor, Korn, both Life of Agony Cds, the new Anthrax, Acoustic Dreams, Kev's demos, and the new Machines of Loving Grace. Quick Reviews: AiC - good so far. Haven't given it a real listen yet. Tori - very cool. Maiden - Ummm, It's Maiden, not good ole Maiden, but Maiden. Korn - Heavy, Emotional, very cool. Anthrax - pretty good, so far Life of Agony - Ugly is not as Heavy as River runs Red, but both are very cool. You gotta hear these guys do "Don't you forget about me" It kicks ass. Acoutic Dreams - AMAZING AMAZING. Kev's Demos - I think I reviewed these already Machines of Loving Grace - not as Industrial as their last one, but still pretty good. Stuff on the Jam. Jam seems like a kinder , gentler jam lately, I'm really liking it (especially since I am keeping up) Mike Bahr a bigot? Nahhhhh ... I don't think someone who has been so giving and helpful to all of us should even be accused of this shit. Ytse & Jam ruled. I'm gonna put it on my new and improved web page which I may actually have time to work on this weekend :):) Anyone wanna do some sort of cartoon characters for em??? I think that would rule. It's ytsejam's own version of Ren and Stimpy or Beavis and Butthead. Like cool, dude. Hmmmmmmm ..... Guess that's it for now. Later Skadz -- _-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_- | | | | Ryan P. Skadberg | Web Sites I have created: | | email_address_removed | http://www.dreamt.org/ | | System Admin/Web Developer | http://www.stream.com/ | | Blue Sky, Inc. | http://www.ma.cancer.org/ | | http://www.bluesky.net/ | http://www.frontier.com/ | | | | -------------------------------------------------------------------------- | "We can hold for the future, but there may not be one" - Dream Theater | -_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_ ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 10 Nov 1995 16:52:06 -0600 (CST) From: Andrew Howard Martin To: email_address_removed Subject: ATTN: WISCONSIN JAMMERS! Message-ID: Hey fellow Wisconsin Theaterheads! A fellow jammer and I are wroking on getting a road trip going to the East Coast for one (or all?) of the DT shows. Is ther ANYONE out there interested in joining us? We'd love to have you come along. NOTE: This is not 100% yet, but we're working on it. Again, if you're interested, of if you can halp in ANY way imaginable, please let me know. Thanks! Andrew H. Martin email_address_removed ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 11 Nov 1995 05:05:42 -0500 From: email_address_removed (Adam H. Marshall) To: email_address_removed Subject: Re: Ytse and Jam explained Message-ID: Hey all, In light of Bafu's recent explanation of the "ytse" and "jam" personalities, I propose a new term. I will now refer to all close-minded, arrogant, and flame-filled posts as "jammy-jams" and all authors of such as "jammy-jammers". For example: "Hey, did you read that jammy-jam about ... " "Jammy-jammers suck!!!" etc. Hope everyone picks up on this one... :) Later, Adam BVAS member since 1995 ________________________________________________________________ Adam H. Marshall Trinity University email_address_removed San Antonio, TX "In science, there is only physics; all the rest is stamp collecting." --Ernest Rutherford ________________________________________________________________ ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 10 Nov 1995 17:58:53 -0500 (EST) From: Chad Benjamin Preston To: email_address_removed Subject: Re: Kansas Message-ID: If all you have is _Monolith_ and you love it, then you're in for a treat, because they have a lot of stuff that's better. It's almost universally agreed that _Leftoverture_ is their best work. However, if you like longer, progressive epic-type songs, go for their earlier stuff like _Song For America_. If you like Steve Morse, get the two albums for which he was in the band- _Power_ and _In the Spirit of Things_. If you like loud, fast, and heavy, get the new album, _Freaks of Nature_. Anyone who likes DT should LOVE this album!! If you're just not sure, I recommend the KANSAS boxed set-it's a great deal-2 75 min. CDs, usually for less than $30. That way you can see what you like the best. Chad ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 10 Nov 1995 18:06:35 -0500 (EST) From: The Digital Man To: Ytse Jam Subject: Legalities surrounding band names (ndtc) Message-ID: HELP!!!! I just found out that another NYC-area band is using the name "Pawn Shop." (btw, my band is pawnShop.) They're signed to some small-potatoes indie label and have released a 2-song demo. My band has been gigging since '92 with the name pawnShop, and released (independently) 2 demos, one in June '94 and one in August '95. Does anyone out there know what we can do to keep our name? Please, please, PLEASE tell me if there's anything we can do! Thanks, Chris *************************************************************** * Christopher R. Merlo |8^)= * * The University of Vermont, 211 Jeanne Mance Hall * * Burlington, VT 05405 U.S.A. * * email_address_removed http://www.uvm.edu/~cmerlo * * * * * This space for rent * * *************************************************************** ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 10 Nov 95 18:09:31 GMT+0000 From: Jaime Kimpton To: email_address_removed Subject: Japanese version of Awake Message-ID: << The bonus CD is a 3" mini CD for which you need an adaptor ring to play in any standard American (I know none of them are American, but in the U.S. standard is 5" CD) CD player >> The mini CD works just fine without an adaptor in my own CD player, which is a [relatively] cheap JVC component system - sorry, I'm not a technology freak like some people, I can't afford separate receivers and 5-CD changers and stuff like that. Jaime, who will eventually find her way into #ytsejam (if the dang server here will cooperate) ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 10 Nov 1995 16:23:31 -0700 (MST) From: David Papineau To: email_address_removed Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 1119 Message-ID: To start off, I must say that Jam 1119 was classic! I think everyone should keep a copy of this one! Anyway, I've got some comments > better follow my own advice. Mine was #309, delivered on Nov. 9, 1995!!! Hey Mike B....BTW, what number are you up to in mailing? > about other bands and their works and some guys getting anal retentive and > thinking that we should stick to *only DT*. Well, screw that! I was looking I agreeeeeeee (soory...) thoughroughlhy (sp)!!!! I remember when I first read about the Jam they mentioned discussions about DT and other related music and subjects. I don't recall and **Only DT** comment in there. > And to "DAVEGOD", you contradictory sack! Ha!! I like it, nice touch!! > First of all, to clear up previous rumors, it is Alex Life sone, the ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ Jim Morrisone...Rejectione...Cajone Reply to reply to reply... > > speaking of dt, anyone hear the new alice in chains yet?? dying to hear > > it. > > Yeah, speaking of DT, anyone ever watch that show, "The New Zoo Review?" > Yeah, speaking of DT, has anyone read "Metamorphosis" lately? > Inanimate objects? Don't get me started, I know exactly what you mean. > You walk into a room, and they just sit there! I hate them, those > inanimate objects, ALL of them!! They MOCK ME with their silence!! They have self-help groups for that kind of thing. And by the way, I'm not only the President, I'm also a client! > the slavering jaws of a Grue. They don't like DT, you know. They're not > much into that "let the light surround you" business. Zork!!!! YES!!! (Beavis-like) > "Ytsemorons?" That prefix is turning out to have unlimited boundaries. > > Let's see, ytsedrummers, ytsestrummers, ytsecondoms, what else, there must > be more...ytsecon, ytseconomics, ytsefrigerator, email_address_removed, > ytseflame, ytsefudge, ytsefeefifofum, ytsebirkenstocks, ytsegermeister... > > Ytsebafu You forgot some... Ytseebago, McYtseburger, Ytselithium Crystals, Ytsephase Modulator, , Ytsemercy fuck, Ytsemite Sam... I'm sorry, but I must digress... If you haven't read it already...Oh well... Bafu, you have made my Year...Thanks :)ave the Dramidj's non-magical Kobayashi NOT-GOD of Mercy Fuck Kher Keep ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 10 Nov 95 17:04:14 -0500 From: email_address_removed.CA To: email_address_removed Subject: AD dubsite Message-ID: Hi everyone, if you want a acoustic dreams dub, just e-mail somebody on this list ....................................................................... 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Item Subject: signature ********************************************************** * Jean-Francois Cote * * INRS-Sante * * * * "55 feets of rainforest are consumed with * * every 1/4 pound fastfood burger made from * * rainforest beef...Ha, Ha, Ha...THIS AIN'T FUNNY MAN!" * * DWEEZIL ZAPPA, THE EARTH * * * ********************************************************** ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 10 Nov 1995 16:41:44 -0700 (MST) From: David Papineau To: email_address_removed Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 1120 Message-ID: To all the great people that have responded to my "Metamorphosis" question, I forgot to mention the main reason I asked... Basically (and this might be a good thread idea) I want to write a song with a Metamorphosis-type theme to it, and I thought to myself "Hey, there are a whole bunch of artisitcally-minded people on the 'Jam...maybe ..." So anyway, I'm just saying that the story set my mind roving into new realms and I want to see if there's anyone else out there. Any ideas? >>>>>>>>>>>>> Flame Away!!! Huh huh...what a flamer! :)ave ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 10 Nov 1995 17:29:47 -0800 (PST) From: Steve Borzilleri To: Dream Thespians Subject: Vocals & Visual Music Message-ID: > From: "L. Jason Hartman" > Subject: ACOS live stuff vs. Ronnie Scotts original > > Anyway, the other thing I discovered is that it seems that James redid > the vocals for Turn It On Again. The ACOS version doesn't really match > with the actual performance. I haven't really sat down and listen to > the whole tape, comparing it to all of the ACOS versions but I wouldn't > be surprised if they did it on other spots on ACOS. I pointed this out a couple weeks ago, about how the vocals on the original Ronnie Scott's "Perfect Strangers" were different from the ACOS version, and someone else posted that "all bands" re-touch tracks when they do live albums. I had no idea all bands did this, but oh well, you learn something new every day. > Man, I should stop listening to the actual tape. I'm loosing > appreciation for the ACOS versions!! ARGH!!! I can't actually HEAR much on the original Ronnie Scott's show, but I'll take your word for it that it's listenable. :) ---- > From: Dan Kidney > Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 1118 > > > Hi Why is no one ever on #ytsejam? > > Well, I was on today (Thursday) until a chap by the nickname of > NuGgeTMaN came on. I playingly asked whether he was a chicken NuGgeTMaN > or just a regular NuGgeTMaN. In response, he kicked me off the channel, > saying I must have been a 'bot because "no one is that stupid". I felt > slightly unwelcome, so I left. That's my excuse... the rest of the folks > were really cool... I hope that the climate on #ytsejam can be a little > more friendly in the future. If that really happened to you, then I wouldn't last five seconds. ---- > From: email_address_removed (Ktulu) > Subject: Visual Music > > Very good, Bafu. I'm gonna have to start making them harder.... > > These are all triplets... > > (3) (3) > da da da da (3) (3) > da da da da (3) (3) > da da da da (3) (3) psssh! > da da da da > > baba baba baba baba boom > > Can YOU guess it? Sounds like the drum fill at 3:30 of "Caught In A Web," the one immediately AFTER the chromatic maelstrom. ---- > From: Damon M. Fibraio > Subject: Re: IRC > > everyone can get together. Some people I would like to talk to on the > channel before I die. Bafu Vai, Mike Bar, (sorr for the butchered Someone will have to e-mail me instructions on how to get to this thing. I don't have an AOL account, so if that halts it right there, I will not be IRC'ing. No, I've never IRC'd. Bafu Vai is an IRC virgin, there, laugh your asses off. :) Bafu Vai ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 10 Nov 1995 18:18:26 -0500 (EST) From: email_address_removed To: email_address_removed Subject: Re: DT symbol Message-ID: > From: William Starner > Subject: The DT symbol > > Hey everyone. > I haven't written much but read all the time. Does anybody know > what the symbol on all the DT CD's means or is or whatever? This is what I heard, and I believe this statement originated from the drum-god himself, Mike Portnoy: ***WARNING*** The following description will be much easier to follow if you actually have a picture of the symbol in front of you! The symbol is made up of three overlapping mirror-images: a "D", a "T", and an "M". The circle that outlines the symbol is actually a mirror-image of a "D" (the "D"s are back-to-back). The lines across the top and bottom and the vertical line through the middle are the mirror-image of the "T" (kind of like a "T" and then another upside-down "T" overlapping it. (The line going through the middle, incidentally, is also the "spine" of the mirror-imaged "D"s) The diagonal lines are created by the mirror-image of the "M"--the "M"s are upside-down like the "T"s. And if you haven't figured out the meaning behind the actual letters, "D" and "T" obviously stand for Dream Theater, and the "M" stands for Majesty, which was the band's original name (sorry for that obvious piece of trivia, but there may be some ytsenewcomers--there's another one, Bafu!--who don't know that yet!) I hope that description made sense. It's a lot easier to show someone than to try and explain it! Jodi ------------------------------ End of YTSEJAM Digest 1122 **************************