YTSEJAM Digest 1118 Today's Topics: 1) Re: HEIR APPARENT-SAVATAGE by email_address_removed (Dr. Mosh) 2) Virtual Music Quiz by Jeremy Lakatos 3) IRC by w de boer 4) More Visual Music by Steve Borzilleri 5) Re: Scarred (or the lack of it) by email_address_removed (Chris White) 6) RE: Graham's CD idea - NOT by email_address_removed.co.uk 7) Oh, just ignore this... by The Digital Man 8) Re: BABS's post by borlangw 9) LatM by Karri K Kiviluoma 10) I need help!!!! by email_address_removed (augie) 11) Helloween home page - NO DT coment by Jose Marcel Berto de Souza 12) Best Ytsejam Pun ?? by "mmetzger" 13) RE: YTSEJAM digest 1115 by "Devine, Christopher" 14) Re: YTSEJAM CONVENTION @ THE SHOWS by NuGgeTMaN 15) by Frank Marotta 16) Re: DT trivia-can you figure it out?? by NuGgeTMaN 17) Ace Frehely, Peter Criss concert review by email_address_removed 18) Progressive?? by "Devine, Christopher" 19) Re: DT Trivia by Corporate Community Relations 20) unsubcribe Johannes Hofman by email_address_removed.nl (Johannes Hofman) 21) Re: Visual Music by An Angel's Kiss... 22) IRC by BURGER KING EMPLOYEE OF THE MONTH 23) Re: YTSEJAM digest 1116 by David Papineau 24) Eudora by Jeff Chew 25) RE: Helmet and Dream Theater by email_address_removed.co.uk 26) Re: YTSEJAM digest 1114 by "Richard A. Rivera" ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Thu, 9 Nov 1995 01:10:09 PST From: email_address_removed (Dr. Mosh) To: email_address_removed Subject: Re: HEIR APPARENT-SAVATAGE Message-ID: Heh, You just try getting the Heir Apparent CD here in the US... it's next to impossible... -The Doc -- #$%*#$*@ REAL: email_address_removed + VIRTUAL: email_address_removed *@#$*@#$ *$%&%#$* The Dream Theater Archives: ftp.netcom.com: /pub/dr/drkhoe/dt &*@#$*@$ **%^$#$% WWW: "ftp://ftp.netcom.com/pub/dr/drkhoe/www/dthome.html" #$**@#*$ *$*$*$*# Reality Enhancement Software - Engineering Reality *$&#*#@$ ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 8 Nov 1995 20:59:57 -0500 (EST) From: Jeremy Lakatos To: email_address_removed Subject: Virtual Music Quiz Message-ID: Okay, here's one. Hint: It's not Dream Theater (you don't like it??? Go bugger a hedgehog, okay. Smeghead. (: ) but it is prog. bip bip bip bip bip boop boop boop boop boop boop bzzt! -- If you can tolerate amateur poetry enough to do a SUCK/NOT SUCK poll, PLEASE check out http://grove.ufl.edu/~jeremy. (email_address_removed) ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 9 Nov 95 13:08:51 +0100 From: w de boer To: email_address_removed Subject: IRC Message-ID: Hi Why is no one ever on #ytsejam? Wietze. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 9 Nov 1995 04:46:04 -0800 (PST) From: Steve Borzilleri To: Dream Thespians Subject: More Visual Music Message-ID: > From: email_address_removed (Ktulu) > Subject: Visual Music > > BTW... What's this? > > Pow Pow Pow Pow Pow Pow > boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom That would be the drum break in "Caught In A Web" at 2:34. You know, the one just before the Chromatic Maelstrom. Bafu Vai ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 9 Nov 95 08:01:54 EST From: email_address_removed (Chris White) To: email_address_removed Subject: Re: Scarred (or the lack of it) Message-ID: I'm sure this has been covered before, but I'll post it again since I keep seeing these messages saying "Scarred isn't on the tape.". The reason that Scarred was not put on the tape is because (at least this is what the band says) it would've been too long, and the integrity of the tape could've been compamised (sp? It's 7am, leave me alone :). So to make sure the quality of the tape could be good, they left Scarred off. Chris ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 9 Nov 1995 13:34:31 +0000 From: email_address_removed.co.uk To: email_address_removed Subject: RE: Graham's CD idea - NOT Message-ID: <"3936*/I=P/S=McLoughlin/OU=bra0108/O=icl/PRMD=icl/ADMD=gold 400/C=GB/"@MHS> It was new last Christmas Graham, and I already had the man from Phillips in but all he did was clean the laser and say he'd have to take it back for testing, but I could not do without it - well could YOU ? However Ed has come up with a good idea that the disc is not actually spinning up to speed, which to my computer engineer collegues seems possible. Thanks Ed. Patricia ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 9 Nov 1995 04:32:27 -0500 (EST) From: The Digital Man To: email_address_removed Subject: Oh, just ignore this... Message-ID: It's 4:30 in the morning, and I have nothing better to do than reply to Jam 1115. So, here goes. > Date: Wed, 8 Nov 1995 09:29:59 -0500 (EST) > From: An Angel's Kiss... > To: email_address_removed > Subject: Re: Drumbeat quiz, Ytsemorons > Message-ID: > > Geez, give the guy a break - he's from Joisey, as I am, we're > expected to tawk and act like dis.........got an f'in' problem > wit dat????? > > > (jersey people are the most interesting group of people either > to talk with or overhear..... :):):):) Well, I'm from New Yawk, ovah heah. So sorry to heah you's from Joisey. Guess I'll type more s l o w l y > ------------------------------ > > > From: "mmetzger" > Subject: Bootleg Update - NspecificDTC > > Well, as it was told to me, authorities are cracking down on bootlegs en masse > on all sides of all ponds. Their manufacture is now finally illegal in Italy Ak! What does that mean for Mike B.?!? ------ Three of these on one 'Jam! Gadzooks! > From: email_address_removed (Jason Marley) > Subject: asdf > > To whom it may concern, > Please enter my name on the mailing list for the Ytse Jam. I would > be delighted to receive the newsletter, and I apologize for any confusion > over my rather unclear first posting. I would very much indeed like to > subscribe to the Ytse Jam. Thank you. Kiss ass. :) > Date: Wed, 8 Nov 1995 09:24:44 -0500 (EST) > From: adam beder > > I'm sorry to inconvineance you, but I do not understand your format for > the DT fan club mail. Can you please take me off your regular mailing [snip] Read the directions! > From: duck > Subject: "asdf" Linda DeLucie > > Join List That last one isn't even close! Tell your friends that my DT page includes a no-brainer mailto: link for joining, so we can avoid this crap. > ------------------------------ > > From: nga@software-ag.de (Neil Gallop) > > Can anybody honestly expect us to limit ourselves to just [DT]? What > sort of threads would we have: > - what underpants was Mike Portnoy wearing when he did the overdubs for ACoS? > - what does John Petrucci's cat like to eat for lunch? > - my 5 favourite ways of spelling Myung? > - how to imitate DT's light show with a candle, a mirror and a piece of > coloured glass? Well, inquiring minds want to know! (I'm guessing boxers, by the way) -the walking experiment in sleep deprivation *************************************************************** * Christopher R. Merlo |8^)= * * The University of Vermont, 211 Jeanne Mance Hall * * Burlington, VT 05405 U.S.A. * * email_address_removed http://www.uvm.edu/~cmerlo * * * * * This space for rent * * *************************************************************** ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 9 Nov 1995 10:23:37 GMT From: borlangw To: email_address_removed Subject: Re: BABS's post Message-ID: BABS wrote: > Graham Borland - I appreciate your sense of humor :) Hey, I was being serious . . . :-) > BTW, my mother's family is Scots-German and they were at one time kicked > out of Scotland and landed in Canada - just what goes on over there? Oh, it happens all the time - instead of having to pay a fine if you're caught speeding, you just get sent to Canada instead. Then, after trying to drive on the wrong side of the road for a while, you realise how bad a driver you really are, and you swear blind never ever to drive faster than 10mph again. Graham B. ______________________________ ______________________________________ |o o| |o o| | Graham Borland |:: | email_address_removed.ac.uk |:: | Dept. of Computing Science |:: | http://www.dcs.gla.ac.uk/~borlangw |:: | Glasgow University |:: | +44 (0)141 357 4033 |:: |______________________________|:: |______________________________________|:: :::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::: :::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::: ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 9 Nov 1995 14:13:43 +0200 (EET) From: Karri K Kiviluoma To: email_address_removed Cc: Multiple recipients of list Subject: LatM Message-ID: > > Two quick questions and I'm outta here. #1 - Does anyone else laugh > hysterically everytime they listen to Bombay Vindaloo off LatM and hear that > guy in the crowd screaming his head off for no reason at all? It's probably > not that funny to anyone, but usually if someone in the crowd yells > something, it's something like "DT rules!" or "Play Stairway!", not just an > incoherent scream. OK, nevermind. Yes! I do laugh at it . So rest assured that YOU AARE NOT ALONE =) Now the real question is if he was/is such a screaming fan it'd be good chance that he's on this list. So lets have it folks, for Mr. Scream. Come forward. We're all friends here =) Anyways. does anyone know what happened to JP in the beginning of PMU. HE MISSED A CHORD!!! Only after several years have I learned to live with that. Was he startled? Did the screaming dude moon him? Did it have to do with his cat? Does he have a cat? Did James moon him? Did anyone moon him? WHAT? Later Karri email_address_removed.fi ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 9 Nov 1995 00:56:34 -0400 From: email_address_removed (augie) To: email_address_removed Subject: I need help!!!! Message-ID: fellow ytsejammers, I've posted this message a few times here. A few people have helped me, but I need more help. I really want to find that IRC chat room for Ytsejam. I downloaded the wrong type of IRC. I need EFnet, but I can't seem to find it anywhere. If anyone can give me an address so I can download it, I would greatly appreciate it. If this helps or hurts anyone, I'm using a Macintosh computer. Thanks again for anyone who helped me already, but I do need more help! Heath Augustover P.S. If you do know how I can access it, please tell me what password, name, or anything else that I will have to do in order to get into it. Thanks! ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 9 Nov 1995 10:45:32 -0200 From: Jose Marcel Berto de Souza To: email_address_removed Subject: Helloween home page - NO DT coment Message-ID: Please, all of you who likes Helloween, visit my home page (http://www.fee.unicamp.br/%7Emaster), because i want to make the first Helloween home page, and i need some ideas. So, please!!!!! (http://www.fee.unicamp.br/%7Emaster) THANK YOU, and sorry about no DT coment. Marcel ------------------------------ Date: 9 Nov 1995 08:40:50 -0500 From: "mmetzger" To: "YTSEJAM" Subject: Best Ytsejam Pun ?? Message-ID: >>> J. Ambrose wrote "Helmet is a good band, but they are old hat...". >>> This gets my vote for the best pun (intentional or otherwise) that >>> I've seen on the Jam so far. Well, how about this from "upstate" , er "western", er "southern tier" New York in ytsejam 1115: > Now as for having a line of condoms hmm? > That may be pushing it a little to far. Gets my vote. Intentional BABS ?????? :-) Mark Metzger email_address_removed "Men without vices rarely have virtues" - Abe Lincoln ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 09 Nov 95 08:55:00 PST From: "Devine, Christopher" To: ytsejam Subject: RE: YTSEJAM digest 1115 Message-ID: > > The second category is actually a broader case of Category #1. This > > is the group of people who claims that they're superior to Progresive Rock > ^^^ ^^^^^^^ > Nice grammar. Learn to spell. > > > fans, because they listen to such a broad range of music. For example, the > > big Dave Matthews thread here from a couple of weeks ago. Dave Matthews > > sucks. Jazz sucks. Rap sucks. If you listen to this crap, you aren't > > cooler than us DT/Rush/Yes fans; you just have worse musical taste. > > > > Flame away! > > > > email_address_removed > > As far as "progressive rock" goes, the constant infusion of new influences broadens our musical styles and tastes. What would have happened if Rush decided not to accept new technologies, such as keyboards, sequencers, etc.. because they were a rock band, Neil Peart says one of his earliest influences was King Crimson, now there was a band on the fringe for the times.(early 70's) What I'm trying to get at is, how can someone who listens to "progresive" music and not like the sources of their influences, or at least respect them, I've seen so many musicans that said that they were fanatics about Rush and Yes, but hate classical and Jazz, Imagine that Alex Lifeson did not look into studying classical guitar, can you imagine the song "closer to the heart" without it's wonderful introduction, or how about "The Trees" need I say more? All in all, we spend too much time cutting down other styles of music (usually the ones we don't listen to) and not enough time expanding our musical horizons to find new music that will give us that same thrill that we felt the first time we heard "Siberean Katru"or "Close to the Edge" ,"Xanadu" or yes (YES?) even "A Change Of Seasons" Radio and MTV have been feeding us crap since 1981, don't complain that Janet Jackson and Green Day suck, they are doing something that( as musicians) hopefully makes them happy, it's the programmers and CEO's that are responsible for the mass produced sludge and thinks of the record buying public as morons. Bottom line: Listen to what you like, and try and expand your mind, but don't waste your time bitching that evreything else sucks, life is too short. Christopher Devine email_address_removed ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 9 Nov 1995 09:21:47 -0500 (EST) From: NuGgeTMaN To: email_address_removed Cc: Multiple recipients of list Subject: Re: YTSEJAM CONVENTION @ THE SHOWS Message-ID: Heheh D00d it was BabZ who pulled the last one together...haven't heard from her ina while...so maybe she ditched us or somethin....Babs hon...ya out there in DT land so you can help some Seriously poor jammerZ get to see DT and stuff??? :) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- According to the circle of fifths, and the order of sharps and flats: If the alphabet continued as notes progressed (Using Major Key Sigs) (i.e. A, B, C, D, E, F, G, H, I, etc.) eventually the key of Z Major would have 4 sharps. StatisticZ show that if a person is born with Perfect Pitch, chances are they will grow up to be a famous...Baseball Player!!! :) "Just Lighten up and listen to the Music" -Kevin Moore (inside joke) email_address_removed Eric Moegling: email_address_removed email_address_removed NEW HOMEPAGE!!!! http://www.wezl.org/NuGgeTMaN fOr MoRE nFo AboUT mE fIngEr: email_address_removed ---------------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 9 Nov 1995 11:10:52 -0500 (EST) From: Frank Marotta To: email_address_removed Message-ID: asdf set ytsejam mail digest ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 9 Nov 1995 09:13:12 -0500 (EST) From: NuGgeTMaN To: email_address_removed Cc: Multiple recipients of list Subject: Re: DT trivia-can you figure it out?? Message-ID: Just off the top of my head, and not Seriously trying...Another day MIGHT fit...but I'm not sure if it'Z in a Minor key or not...I could go grab some paper and shit and whip up the entire song if needZ be...hehe...but I don't have that kinda time...this is just from memory, and could be WAY off. C-ya (I'm thinkin' the third note by the Key'Z is the 5th...so that'Z where I might be wrong). ---------------------------------------------------------------------- According to the circle of fifths, and the order of sharps and flats: If the alphabet continued as notes progressed (Using Major Key Sigs) (i.e. A, B, C, D, E, F, G, H, I, etc.) eventually the key of Z Major would have 4 sharps. StatisticZ show that if a person is born with Perfect Pitch, chances are they will grow up to be a famous...Baseball Player!!! :) "Just Lighten up and listen to the Music" -Kevin Moore (inside joke) email_address_removed Eric Moegling: email_address_removed email_address_removed NEW HOMEPAGE!!!! http://www.wezl.org/NuGgeTMaN fOr MoRE nFo AboUT mE fIngEr: email_address_removed ---------------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 09 Nov 95 09:19:48 EST From: email_address_removed To: email_address_removed, email_address_removed Subject: Ace Frehely, Peter Criss concert review Message-ID: Some have listed Kiss as one of their favorite bands and may potentially want to check out this show. I was one of those people, if you were interested too, read this: First, it IS NOT a KISS reunion like the MTV special. Second, it is not Ace and Peter with two other guys playing old KISS songs. Rather it IS Peter Criss' band opening for Ace's band. Which was not how the ads in the Balt/Washington area led you to expect. Peter sings with Ace's band for some KISS songs such as "Strange Ways" and that was killer! But for the most part the show was disheartening. The review is from the show at Hammerjacks in Baltimore, MD 11/8/95 Peter Criss played mostly weak unmotivating solo material. They played a few KISS songs, 100,000 Years, Strutter and Black Diamond. The band encored with an acoustic set that featured "Hard Luck Woman" and "Beth". (this pains me to write the following about one of my drum idols) Whatever drumming ability Criss had back in the KISS days, is LONG GONE now! His meter fluctuated (even on songs he didn't sing backup). He had many mis-hits, played fills ending off time, fumbled his sticks and generally sucked! If you have fond memories of this drummer, DO NOT see him on this tour; you ideas will change quickly. Ace's band blew the roof off the concert hall. They nailed many KISS classics, "Shock Me", "Watchin' You" and "Cold Gin" and were joined by Criss for faves "Nothin' To Lose" "Rock And Roll All Nite" and "Strange Ways" (again, awesome). His band was inspiring and well seasoned featuring the same lineup as last year's tour. But this time Ace was SOBER. Ace played his solo material as well, "New York Groove", "Rock Solders" from the past and a new song "Sister" from a forthcoming release. Keeping this in mind, watch for a tour date near you. I would suggest saving the ticket money and pulling out those scratched LPs (or updated CDs) and savoring the memories.... ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 09 Nov 95 09:27:00 PST From: "Devine, Christopher" To: ytsejam Subject: Progressive?? Message-ID: ---------- From: Devine, Christopher To: ytsejam Subject: RE: YTSEJAM digest 1115 Date: Thursday, November 09, 1995 8:55AM Priority: High > > The second category is actually a broader case of Category #1. This > > is the group of people who claims that they're superior to Progresive Rock > ^^^ ^^^^^^^ > Nice grammar. Learn to spell. > > > fans, because they listen to such a broad range of music. For example, the > > big Dave Matthews thread here from a couple of weeks ago. Dave Matthews > > sucks. Jazz sucks. Rap sucks. If you listen to this crap, you aren't > > cooler than us DT/Rush/Yes fans; you just have worse musical taste. > > > > Flame away! > > > > email_address_removed > > As far as "progressive rock" goes, the constant infusion of new influences broadens our musical styles and tastes. What would have happened if Rush decided not to accept new technologies, such as keyboards, sequencers, etc.. because they were a rock band, Neil Peart says one of his earliest influences was King Crimson, now there was a band on the fringe for the times.(early 70's) What I'm trying to get at is, how can someone who listens to "progresive" music and not like the sources of their influences, or at least respect them, I've seen so many musicans that said that they were fanatics about Rush and Yes, but hate classical and Jazz, Imagine that Alex Lifeson did not look into studying classical guitar, can you imagine the song "closer to the heart" without it's wonderful introduction, or how about "The Trees" need I say more? All in all, we spend too much time cutting down other styles of music (usually the ones we don't listen to) and not enough time expanding our musical horizons to find new music that will give us that same thrill that we felt the first time we heard "Siberean Katru"or "Close to the Edge" ,"Xanadu" or yes (YES?) even "A Change Of Seasons" Radio and MTV have been feeding us crap since 1981, don't complain that Janet Jackson and Green Day suck, they are doing something that( as musicians) hopefully makes them happy, it's the programmers and CEO's that are responsible for the mass produced sludge and thinks of the record buying public as morons. Bottom line: Listen to what you like, and try and expand your mind, but don't waste your time bitching that evreything else sucks, life is too short. Christopher Devine email_address_removed ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 9 Nov 95 09:27:49 EST From: Corporate Community Relations To: email_address_removed Subject: Re: DT Trivia Message-ID: email_address_removed (Trey Allen) wrote: >In the intro to this DT song: > >- The time signature is 4/4 > >- the 6th note in the song that is played by the guitar is a flat 2. > >- the second note is played in unison by the keys and the guitar. > >- the third note played by the keyboard is the 7th of the key signature. > >- the key of the song is minor > > WHAT IS THE SONG I AM DESCRIBING???????? Off the top of my head, I'd have to guess UNDER A GLASS MOON. Happy rails, .... Buck .++++++++.\ -- .+++. .+++++++++++++++.\ ... .+++++++. .+++++++++++++++++++++.\ .+++++. .+++++++++++. .+++++++++++++++++++++++++++. .+++++++++. .++++++ William J. Buckley, Jr. +++++++++++++++++++. .+++++++++++++...++++++++ email_address_removed ++++++++++++++++++++++. ----------------------------- email_address_removed --------------------------- ----- Support an American Tradition ... RIDE MORE ROLLER COASTERS !!!!! ----- ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 9 Nov 1995 16:03:32 +0100 From: email_address_removed.nl (Johannes Hofman) To: email_address_removed Subject: unsubcribe Johannes Hofman Message-ID: <=- Macintosh... more than the features of Windoze 95, since 1984 -=> ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 9 Nov 1995 10:11:35 -0500 (EST) From: An Angel's Kiss... To: email_address_removed Subject: Re: Visual Music Message-ID: > > Pow Pow Pow Pow Pow Pow > boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom > This is the part right after the acoustic intro. to ACoS, when the electric guitar comes in......... whoohoo!!!!!!!! Al Balkiewicz vocals, Half Naked "a smile from lips that have never seen joy - emotional apocalypse" > Seeya. > Ben Laussade > > "This is not reality" > > > ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 09 Nov 1995 09:44:00 CST From: BURGER KING EMPLOYEE OF THE MONTH To: email_address_removed Subject: IRC Message-ID: Could someone please tell me which IRC server that the #ytsejam is usually found on? I really want to know, Chris ******************************************************************************** * Chris Crowder * Dream Theater, Rush, Alice in Chains, * * HU Box #596 * Queensyrche, Genesis, Metallica, * * Searcy, AR 72149-0001 * Silverchair, Clint Black, Blues Traveler * * * *** and the list goes on *** * * * * ******************************************************************************** ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 9 Nov 1995 08:44:03 -0700 (MST) From: David Papineau To: email_address_removed Cc: Multiple recipients of list Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 1116 Message-ID: ***************** IGNORE THIS MESSAGE!!! **************** Now that I've got your attention... Anyone ever noticed that JP can't ever get the tone right on the opening tunes to PMU live? My friends and I have caught this a few times and I was wondering if it was just us. Also, has anyone out there read "Metamorphosis" recently? ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 9 Nov 1995 12:50:15 -0500 (EST) From: Jeff Chew To: Ytsejam Subject: Eudora Message-ID: > PS In case anyone is wondering, Eudora is a software package for managing > email :) I have Eudora, it's a neat little thing, but I stopped using it after a few days. Yours, Jeff =) <<<==============---------------<<<<<<<>>>>>>>---------------==============>>> "I still taste your kisses Jeff Chew is: Your voice sings in my ear email_address_removed You can betray http://www.columbia.edu/~jc309 what we were yesterday But you'll come back tonight (212) 853-6952 for him" <--- Kim from Miss Saigon <<<==============---------------<<<<<<<>>>>>>>---------------==============>>> ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 9 Nov 1995 18:00:18 +0000 From: email_address_removed.co.uk To: email_address_removed Subject: RE: Helmet and Dream Theater Message-ID: <"3944*/I=P/S=McLoughlin/OU=bra0108/O=icl/PRMD=icl/ADMD=gold 400/C=GB/"@MHS> I have on tape an interview which Mike Portnoy gave on MTV in Munich, saying that the music of Helmet influenced him on AWAKE. Patricia ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 9 Nov 1995 15:33:54 -0500 (EST) From: "Richard A. Rivera" To: email_address_removed Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 1114 Message-ID: > You wrote: > > Hey Richie -- What Toad the Wet Sprocket Tune was it that you > took time from your AD listening to listen to? (damn, that's a shitty > sounding sentence!) Just curious. > +++It was "Is It For Me" on the "Fear" album. I had just bought it the day before. Probably my favorite song on the album. I steal need to get "In Light Syrup," "Bread and Circus" and "Pale." Richie P.S. And in regards to that whole Bad 4 Good discussion, they were a band that had either really good songs or really bad songs. No middle ground. Now they're called Lucy's Milk and have a different guitar player. Somehow I couldn't handle Sam from Different Strokes saying, "C'mon queeny, rock my body." ------------------------------ End of YTSEJAM Digest 1118 **************************