YTSEJAM Digest 1078 Today's Topics: 1) now portnoy has stepped into the ring by email_address_removed 2) Guitar tab books by nga@software-ag.de (Neil Gallop) 3) Regarding Mike Portnoy and John Petrucci by Chris Crowder 4) RE: NAMM -If Only I Could by email_address_removed.co.uk 5) Mild DT Content.... No Melon Content by email_address_removed 6) Re: Ladies and... by email_address_removed (Stacie Rosenzweig) 7) ****IMPORTANT**** by MASTER BLASTER 8) Re: YTSEJAM digest 1077 by Jeff Chew 9) Geting backstage at the Malibu by Jeff Chew 10) *****IMPORTANT****** by email_address_removed (Paul Goracke) 11) Re: Japanese PPV by email_address_removed 12) ****IMPORTANT**** Mike's fill by email_address_removed.fi (Antti Nyrhinen) 13) Re: Ken's post by Ken Bibb 14) Mike's E-mail by Philip Jason 15) Musical Question... by "Daniel C. Webb" 16) Re: YTSEJAM digest 1063 by Andrew Keegan 17) ATTENTION MANAGEMANT OF DREAM THEATER by email_address_removed (augie) 18) Mike Bahr and cds sent by Pat Daugherty 19) Re: YTSEJAM digest 1077 by Harold L Benfield 20) Re: YTSEJAM digest by oddw@powertech.no (Odd Ween) 21) Sex is Death by Matthew Sirois 22) Re: YTSEJAM digest 1077 by "Greg \"Big Brother\" Lee" 23) Cassandra by email_address_removed (omar khan) 24) Minimal NDTC by "Jonathan D Heller" 25) Acoustic Dreams and stuff by Keith Aspinall 26) ***IMPORTANT*** by email_address_removed ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Wed, 25 Oct 1995 11:20:58 -0400 From: email_address_removed To: email_address_removed Cc: email_address_removed Subject: now portnoy has stepped into the ring Message-ID: man, this is really getting messy......portnoy's post. but was it? or not? again, very thoughtful message, yet as was mentioned by those who personally talked to him, he has no access to a computer. or did he? am i the only person who doesn't dig the japan 95 tape everyone's mentioning (1/24/95- the payperview video, right?)? i thought james was off and his voice sounded old at times. musically, they rocked. also, i think their set wasn't as good as say, the one over the summer (how many people expected to hear "uagm" at the beginning, then into "mirror" and "lie"?) david, the magical kobayashi ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 25 Oct 95 14:47:36 +0100 From: nga@software-ag.de (Neil Gallop) To: email_address_removed Cc: donews!nga Subject: Guitar tab books Message-ID: Hi all, well, it looks like I'm going to manage to write a contribution that contains mainly DT stuff and doesn't knock or flame anybody. Here goes: The latest edition of the German magazine Metal Hammer contains an ad for a music mail-order shop with the following DT guitar tab books: Images and Words DM 50.60 Awake DM 53.60 Let me know if you want any more info (address, fax number etc). I think the current exchange rate dollar/Deutschmark is somewhere around 1:1.44. This may be old stuff for some of you, but I thought I'd let you know. Made it! And I didn't even say fu..! stay safe and happy listening (whatever it is your listening to) Neil Gallop (nga@software-ag.de) What makes the desert beautiful is that somewhere it hides a well... from 'The Little Prince' by Antoine de Saint Exupery ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 25 Oct 1995 10:32:03 CDT From: Chris Crowder To: email_address_removed Subject: Regarding Mike Portnoy and John Petrucci Message-ID: Well, guys, I was just reading the last few ytsejams and I read John Petrucci's post, then later saw Mike Portnoy's post. What I see is that they (John P. and Mike P.) are apparently more willing to forgive and forget than alot of you are! I am extremely impressed and pleased to see that they are not Blind Melon bashing or yelling "Good Riddance!" like alot of you are. I think that we all can learn a large lesson from those two. May Shannon Hoon rest in peace. A fellow ytsejammer, Chris Crowder P.S. to John Petrucci and Mike Portnoy: You guys are awesome and I have the utmost respect for not only the two of you, but for the entire band. Rock on! ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 25 Oct 1995 14:33:28 +0000 From: email_address_removed.co.uk To: email_address_removed Subject: RE: NAMM -If Only I Could Message-ID: <"3787*/I=P/S=McLoughlin/OU=bra0108/O=icl/PRMD=icl/ADMD=gold 400/C=GB/"@MHS> ***** From: Brian Wherry Subject: NAMM show '96 Hi everyone! I'll be in LA from Jan. 18th to the 22nd or so for the NAMM convention, and was wondering if anyone else was going or would like to get together or something.... Later! Brian ***** How I wish I could go. I have a tape saying Marc Bonilla usually goes (on the Yamaha stand). Please, please, if he is there, could you ask him what he is doing and when his next album will be out. Thanks Patricia Have 'A Beautiful Day' (This is to replace 'Have a Nice Day' when Queen's new album comes out) Yes people are usually VERY surprised when I say I am in to Heavy Metal ! Patricia ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 25 Oct 1995 11:49:23 -0400 From: email_address_removed To: email_address_removed Subject: Mild DT Content.... No Melon Content Message-ID: Hey! Here goes! Re: jam # 1075 - Well guys, I don't know. Hmm.... was that the real John Petrucci? Or would the reak John Petrucci have spelled BERKLEE CORRECTLY!?! Whoever sent the imposter message, get your Hooked on Phonics first. Re: Chris DeGarmo - I have a Guitar for the Practicing Musician that came out just before the Promised Land album. They asked him " What were your main influences in writing this music?" He answered something like I SMOKED A LOT OF DOPE. No folks he was not joking. He made no disclaimers. I don't care if you think that smoking pot is Cool, guys... It screws your mind. Also, in case you were wondering.... Chris hit on my friend's girlfriend while he was at a record store signing party here in Chicago. He is married, and he does someting like that. Cool guy. Smoke some pot. Guitarists: If any of youare into shred, I am going to make a small mailing list where I do reviews of shred albums. I can also forward your mail to everyone else that gets on the list. I just thought that would be cool, since I have had so many requests for info on some of today's players. I get the new albums the day they come out... yesterday it was Todd Duane. Female Prog/guitar fans: Rock on! Don't let male ego crap get you down,,,, we can't help it. We're men. *******Silent Man Single********** Hey everyone, I was just wondering if anyone was looking for the Silent Man single. I picked up a used (Mint) copy of the USA disc single for $4.00. If anyone wants it, it is for sale for $30. No I'm kidding. If anyone wants it, E Mail me. I'll sell it for $4 + S&H, or maybe for a good trade. Rock on guys Chris Ptacek email_address_removed ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ ------------------------- ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 25 Oct 1995 10:49:15 +22299548 (CDT) From: email_address_removed (Stacie Rosenzweig) To: email_address_removed Subject: Re: Ladies and... Message-ID: Hmmm... I'm an occasional poster who's been with the 'jam since June of 1993. I don't get weird comments for being a female prog fan, but I do get weird comments for being a prog fan, period (I go to a small, liberal-arts college where Morrisey, the Pixies, and the like are status quo -- I have met exactly four --metal-- fans; only one of them liked DT and he was stoned all of the time) Yes, I know, we ARE a minority... Oh well...you don't suppose there's any prog affirmitive-action around there... Stacie ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 25 Oct 1995 11:58:46 -0400 From: MASTER BLASTER To: email_address_removed Subject: ****IMPORTANT**** Message-ID: I elected not to bother with that crazy girl who came and bothered me on Friday night. Perhaps I'll suffocate her faith? ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 25 Oct 1995 13:27:28 -0400 (EDT) From: Jeff Chew To: email_address_removed Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 1077 Message-ID: Dear jammers, NOOOO!!!!!! John Petrucci does NOT have internet access. John and Rena are computer illiterate, they have told me themselves. The closest that John has ever come to the ytsejam is wearing the Ytsejam shirt. THAT's IT!!!! No need to "investigate", alright? Okay, I got that off my chest. On with the jam! Yours, Jeff =) <<<==============---------------<<<<<<<>>>>>>>---------------==============>>> "You are sunlight and I, moon Jeff Chew is: joined by the gods of fortune email_address_removed midnight and high noon http://www.columbia.edu/~jc309 sharing the sky we have been blessed, you and I" <--- Kim from Miss Saigon <<<==============---------------<<<<<<<>>>>>>>---------------==============>>> ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 25 Oct 1995 13:43:14 -0400 (EDT) From: Jeff Chew To: Ytsejam Subject: Geting backstage at the Malibu Message-ID: Dear jammers, There' a VERY good chance that all of us Ytsejammers can get into the VIP lounge/aftershow! I mean, if we line up in the front row with our shirts, wouldn't that impress the band? Also, the guys are REALLY cool about letting people into the VIP room. I was able to get all of my friends in the VIP room the last time I went to the Malibu. So, maybe this could be the post-concert Ytsejam party! Cool! Yours, Jeff =) <<<==============---------------<<<<<<<>>>>>>>---------------==============>>> "You are sunlight and I, moon Jeff Chew is: joined by the gods of fortune email_address_removed midnight and high noon http://www.columbia.edu/~jc309 sharing the sky we have been blessed, you and I" <--- Kim from Miss Saigon <<<==============---------------<<<<<<<>>>>>>>---------------==============>>> ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 25 Oct 1995 10:46:59 -0700 From: email_address_removed (Paul Goracke) To: email_address_removed Subject: *****IMPORTANT****** Message-ID: With all the recent "bandwidth waste" on non-DT subjects, and the bigger waste of whingeing about it, I've decided to introduce a new service: YTSE-FILTER! Do you want: o only *directly* DT-related info? o everything _but_: o talk of other bands? o politics? o top 5 lists? o only posts of less than lines? o posts without sigs? o what the heck, want _only_ Blind Melon info? Then act now and subscribe now to Ytse-filter! For the low, low introductory price of US$10/month, I will personally filter to your tastes. A personalized weekly Ytsejam will be sent direct to your e-mail box in an unassuming brown paper wrapper. Just e-mail me at email_address_removed for more info, such as where to send the dough. (sorry, spelling/grammar correction and line-wrap fixing are an add'l $40/month) If you don't think it's worth $10/month to find out about one-off shows and new releases before the ticket vendors and record store drones, you'll just have to wade through the posts yourself in the free version. pg hell, I'm wading through these posts without complaint, why not get paid for it? ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 25 Oct 95 11:16:56 PST From: email_address_removed To: email_address_removed Subject: Re: Japanese PPV Message-ID: >I just got a copy of the Dream Theater pay per view show from >Japan. All I have to say about it is WOW! OK, enough already... I am drooling all over my keyboard! 8^) So how does one go about getting a copy of this? Is it an "Official" import from Japan or did someone dub it for you.... I have heard from several people that this is an amazing video... Thanks, -Mike /~~~~~~~ Michael Kizer -- Computer Sciences Corporation (Tucson, AZ) ~~~~~~~\ \ Email: email_address_removed (preferred) -or- email_address_removed / / WWW: http://www.indirect.com/www/mkizer/index.htm \ \ ^---> Check here for the Dream Theater Song Book... / / \ \ "Plus ca change, plus c'est la meme chose." - Rush (The Band!) / / \ \______________________________________________________________________________/ ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 25 Oct 1995 20:22:39 +0200 From: email_address_removed.fi (Antti Nyrhinen) To: email_address_removed Subject: ****IMPORTANT**** Mike's fill Message-ID: In a recent ytsejam, Ben Laussade spake thus: >>has everyone noticed that Portnoy uses this same interesting fill >>twice during ACOS.. Being a total idiot when it comes to musical theory, >>I can't describe it intelligently. The kick drum sort of carries the >>fill, but a cymbal and the snare are used as well. >Well, THAT narrows it down. Mike Portnoy NEVER does fills with the snare, >kick and cybmbal :) If you give me a time, I'll tell you what he's doing >there. If you're interested, that is. Hey, cut it with the sarcasm! *ouch* As I said, I didn't figure out a smart way to describe it.. And I would've given you the times but I was too lazy to take my brand new Life of Agony album ("Ugly") out of the CD player and replace it with ACOS.. (yes, yes, I have to admit it, I have been listening to other CDs as well. Crucify me.) And now, the times.. first at 13:20 or thereabouts then, again, at 15:57 he goes ahead and repeats the damn thing ...oh come let us adore him.... Aww shites, I can't find any more of that fill.. I thought it was there one more time, played faster. I feel my point is ruined. I feel like aborting this message.. But that I won't do, since this message has nothing to do with a certain band with the initials BM and I'm a tad proud of that fact. :-) Now that I'm at it (blabbering away about the details of Portnoy's playing) I might also say, that the cymbal sound at the end of ACOS (20:15-20:36) gets on my nerves, but on the other hand the cymbal sound at the end of Scarred (you all know what I mean) is just simply divine. And by the way, I think Mike's drum track is one of the things that actually improved in the newer ACOS version.. I liked the older one better in many ways (speed, both "don't go"'s, and a few other things like the early climax after The Inevitable Summer). Ok, back to the fill.. you promised to tell me what he's doing there. Please do. I expect a two-page analysis complete with an appendix about historical background and a bibliography (you can ask Ken about that part.. he's good at it :)) I'm off my soapbox. I guess I ought to be sorry for the unnecessary length of this message. But considering what the list has been like lately, I'm not. -- Antti Nyrhinen --- "Gather Ye rosebuds while you may" Turku, Finland --- email_address_removed.fi DreamTheaterPanteraSentencedEtc. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 25 Oct 1995 11:29:17 -0700 From: Ken Bibb To: email_address_removed Subject: Re: Ken's post Message-ID: > From: The Digital Man > To: Ytse Jam > Subject: Ken's post > > You know, I think that Ken's recent post on the gender issue was the > first time I've seen anyone include a bibliography. Damn, Ken! Nobody > can argue with you now! Well done. > -Chris And I would like to re-emphasize that biological proof of sexual differentiation of the brain does not mean that one sex must be better than the other--it just means that there are differences. Just about any book on Developmental Neuroanatomy should discuss this topic, for anyone interested. Kandel and Schwarz is one of the more famous overviews and includes a "Related Reading" section for each topic, which is why I recommend it as a first place to look. For a discussion of the topic that is oriented towards the layperson (and not people in neuro fields) I suggest Patricia Churchland's landmark "Neurophilosophy". She had some amusing comments on sexual differentiation :) -- Ken Bibb "Through the fire backwards email_address_removed Again and Again email_address_removed Return to base." Peter Hammill--"A Headlong Stretch" ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 25 Oct 1995 14:39:43 -0400 From: Philip Jason To: email_address_removed, Subject: Mike's E-mail Message-ID: >Date: Tue, 24 Oct 95 15:51:23 -0700 >From: Mike Portnoy >To: email_address_removed >Subject: To the Ytse-jammers >Message-ID: Now this might be a stupid question, but why is Mike's e-mail from compuserve routed through Columbia University's mail server? Tending to Doubt this was from Mike, Phil p.s. If there is a reason for it and this was really from Mike, boy will I really feel stupid. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 25 Oct 1995 14:57:22 -0400 (EDT) From: "Daniel C. Webb" To: email_address_removed Subject: Musical Question... Message-ID: I just played part of the AWAKE cd for my music professor here at college. He was pretty impressed by the complexity and talent of the music. He is very interested in the use of different modes of musical scales as applied to current music. Does anybody know what kind of modes Dream Theater uses in their songs. I have to believe they use something more than the standard scales. Any help would be appreciated. Along with specific examples. My ear isn't very good for hearing those things. Especially from you guitar players out there. ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Daniel C. Webb | Biology Major Heidelberg College | 'For the first time in a long time Tiffin, Ohio USA | everything was right in my life, E-mail: email_address_removed | and then I woke up' ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 25 Oct 1995 14:59:37 -0400 (EDT) From: Andrew Keegan To: email_address_removed Cc: Multiple recipients of list Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 1063 Message-ID: On Wed, 25 Oct 1995, Michael Coghlan wrote: > > Al: > I suppose you didn't read the interview with J. Labrie on the subject > of profanity. Send me a copy. I'd like to hear James 'fuckit' LaBrie has to say about profanity. Does he say it's okay to curse after every song, but not in the song itself? > I guess that makes you ignorant to what has been said on > this subject based on what I just read from you. I'll send it to you > if you would like. Contact me directly. I am sick of hearing > potty-mouths on the Y-jam like yourself and I try to overlook it most > of the time. You better stay away from those DT live shows. Andy ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 25 Oct 1995 12:55:02 -0400 From: email_address_removed (augie) To: email_address_removed Subject: ATTENTION MANAGEMANT OF DREAM THEATER Message-ID: I'm thankfully going to be 18 for the show coming in December to the Malibu Bach Club. But I'm sure there are many other people out there who aren't 18 yet. I find it totally wrong that true Dream Theater fans get denied from attending Dream Theater concerts because of their age. You guys did it to me in the Spring and I find it totally wrong. I think someone should reconsider the age to go to the concert. Why aren't minors allowed in there any way? I think this policy is wrong! YOu guys can lose fans instead of gaining them by this policy. Are there any NY/Long Island teenage jammers out there? Heath Augustover ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 25 Oct 1995 13:01:01 -0400 (EDT) From: Pat Daugherty To: Dream Theater Subject: Mike Bahr and cds sent Message-ID: To Mike Bahr, When you do your updates can you also post the latest cd number that you have sent out? Many of us are dying to find out where we stand and don't want to bother you via email. Still waiting for AD..... **** Pat Daugherty email_address_removed GO REDSKINS! **** **** "Every breath leaves me one less to my last" --Dream Theater **** **** GO CAPITALS!!!! "That is not an option, Mr. Mulder" --X-Files **** **** Dream Theater - A Change of Seasons -Buy it now!! **** ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 25 Oct 1995 13:26:51 -0400 From: Harold L Benfield To: email_address_removed Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 1077 Message-ID: After viewing materials sent, I have decided to discontinue the correspondence of these messages, please at your most conveniance discontinue your letters, Sincerely, Harold Benfield ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 25 Oct 1995 18:57:17 +0100 From: oddw@powertech.no (Odd Ween) To: email_address_removed Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest Message-ID: >>UNSUBCRIBE YTSEJAM ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 25 Oct 1995 15:07:46 -0400 (EDT) From: Matthew Sirois To: email_address_removed Subject: Sex is Death Message-ID: In response to Michael Coghlan's post (sorry if I spelled that wrong): I'm not sure if I follow your thinking in regards to considering Take the Time a "new age thinking" song. You wrote that Christians look towards God/Jesus to find a greater strength, as opposed to the "find all you need in your mind" idea. Somehow, it seems to me that one could translate this song to fit both ideas. TTT could be interpreted as carrying a message of finding all that you need to discover God/Jesus/Divinity/whatever within yourself, rather than relying one others for spiritual enlightenment. That is, divinity can (and perhaps must) be discovered from within, as opposed to being a product of taught beliefs. Am I making sense here? I too find many Christian hints in DT lyrics (sex is death, death is sex, says it right here on my Crucifix, Judas on the ceiling, the devil in my bed, i guess Easter's never coming, with wings up in heaven, ect) I can think of many more. I've never considered any of these instances to be ANTI Christian, rather they seemed more to be questioning/considering the ideas of that faith. I think it would be easy to embrace both the philosophies that DT portray and the ideas of Christianity at the same time. This seems like an interesting thread (intelligent too, imagine that!). I hope it continues. Hopefully no one is going to become offended by a discussion involving religious themes within DT lyrics. It's not like anything that could be said would be that threatening to anyone's personal faith anyway. Regardless... Now that we've ended the BM posts, we need to end the "end the BM posts" posts. :) MIKE Bahr.... what's going on, man? I hear all these great reviews of AD, I read there's some copies left... but everytime I e-mail you I never get a response... What's the deal? I'd like to order a copy, but I don't seem to be reaching you... HARUMPH. finally... I recently posted about dt and drugs, the message that read something like "bm and the incident with Steve Morse." This was an error! I meant to type Steve Walsh, I don't know, the Kansas connection got me mixed up. Again, this was a mistake. There was no Morse drug incident... Sorry about any confusion there... BTW, buy Bring 'em Back Alive. You won't regret it. Long live the Revolution! -Matt ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 25 Oct 1995 15:19:10 -0400 (EDT) From: "Greg \"Big Brother\" Lee" To: email_address_removed Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 1077 Message-ID: On Wed, 25 Oct 1995, Jeff Chew wrote: > NOOOO!!!!!! John Petrucci does NOT have internet access. John and Rena > are computer illiterate, they have told me themselves. The closest that > John has ever come to the ytsejam is wearing the Ytsejam shirt. THAT's > IT!!!! No need to "investigate", alright? Okay, I got that off my > chest. On with the jam! There are a lot of people requiring Internet for Dummies for starters, second...if you have the capacity for it, the O'Reilly sendmail bible...there are a lot of gullable people out there! Are you that desparate to hear from the Great Ones on the 'Jam? Greg. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 25 Oct 1995 15:06:03 -0400 (EDT) From: email_address_removed (omar khan) To: email_address_removed Subject: Cassandra Message-ID: I think we have all read about the posts about Cassandra being a seeress in ancient Troy. I just thought I might point out a book by Christa Wolf, an East- German author, called-- you guessed it--- "Cassandra." It is a sort of revisionist tilt on the Trojan War and is told, apparently, from the viewpoint of Cassandra, as the seeress daughter of Priam. Obviously, it is only so accurate, as it was written in the 20th century (1980's). Just another reference to Cassandra for all ye who are interested. I would also have to agree that Dream Theater are not a Christian band. I understand that they _might_ be Christians, but there really is nothing in their lyrics to suggest so. As has been pointed out, Christianity is not a semi- condition: you either believe and feel it or you dont. And specific songs that dont apply or are specfically not Christian can be found within the entire albums. As to their personal convictions, it's impossible to say. But "close your eyes, you'll find all you need in your mind" has been much quoted in relation to Christianity, and for good reason. That is not a Christian viewpoint. Interesting anecdote. I was talking to my mother, who was born and raised in Ireland, and we were talking about Dublin. She said that is was "a den of inequity." She knows nothing of ACOS and I asked her where that came from. Apparently, the rural people of Ireland dislike the corruption of Dublin-- you know, the typical complaints of city violence, prostitution, and theft. Since so many of Ireland's phrases come from Biblical references (Catholicism being still pervasive there in 99% of the people), I was wondering if that is anywhere in the Bible. Anyone? I was thinking about Babel, or some other licentious city. Sodom and Gomorrah (spelling?)? Although "inequity" seems more to be a function of the haves and have- nots than baltant sinfulness. Oh well.... I was driving when my mother said that, I just about missed my left hand turn home, a drive I have made a thousand times in my life, because of shock in that phrase. So "inequity" may not be a word in Webster's, but it sure is a colloquial expressionm, at least in Ireland. My mom was surprised I had never heard the phrase "den of inequity." :) One last stab in my post: obscenity. Truthfully, the only reason we still find words offensive is because people are apalled or disgusted. If everyone thought nothing of the "4- letter" words, then we certainly wouldnt find them offensive. If people didnt make such a big deal about them, they would be considered "normal." I always find it interseting to see what words are considered most disdainful in various societies. America, in general, is simply a lot less comfortable with sexuality than many other cultures (and I wouldnt say ALL)-- hence the disdain for the word f***. In Spanish, the most vulgar expressions are those concerning religion; in Spain to say "Jesus Christ" is the most horrendous of swears, while the literal translation of f*** is heard on sitcoms similar to the Cosby Show or other wholesome TV shows. Whereas in America, you hear the blasphemous "Goddamn" on our sitcoms, but any reference to f*** is carefully and playfully skirted about. Indeed, we find sex almost beguilingly humorous, in order to hide discomfort. The laughter is almost nervous and infantile: all statements or jokes are funnier with the tag "in bed" on the end of them. I guess I'm getting on a tangent here. Obscene words often are able to express more emotion, but often simply because they are so taboo. If something really awful happens, the constrictions of society wear thin and harsh and sometimes awful words and comments effuse from our lips. This is human nature. If soceity didnt view such behaviour as freakish, then the words would not be seen as unseemly. Oh well-- this post is already far too long. -Omar Khan any classical musicians should buy Gorecki's Third Symphony with Dawn Upshaw, and the Shostakovich violin concerto no. 1. amazing shtuff. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 25 Oct 1995 15:44:53 -0400 (EDT) From: "Jonathan D Heller" To: email_address_removed Subject: Minimal NDTC Message-ID: 1 11 21 1211 111221 312211 13112221 1113213211 31131211121221 ect.. will there ever be a 4?? ======================================================================== | Jon Heller | | | email_address_removed | "We're Waiting for this Fuck; | | ZBT BE | Everybody say, Larry your a | | Computer Science/EE | Bastard." | | 404 Michigan Ave MI 48823 | -Les Claypool | ======================================================================== ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 25 Oct 1995 12:59:44 -0700 (MST) From: Keith Aspinall To: email_address_removed Subject: Acoustic Dreams and stuff Message-ID: My initial reactions on hearing each album for the first time: 1. IAW: so why do i have this? 2. Awake: this is nowhere near as good as IAW 3. WDADU: this is just pathetic 4. LatM: what the hell is James doing? 5. Subconscious: so what's the big deal? 6. ACos: i cant believe they ruined the song 7. AD: i dont think i'll actually listen to it that much, but it completes the collection. So this obviously means it kicks ass. I don't know what it is, but the less impressed i am with dt the first time i hear it, the more i will eventually like it. kinda weird. i was reading the faq recently, and it reminded me that all the guys in the band wrote one verse for TtT, and then did the chorus together. Does anyone know who did what? 3 and 6 are the choruses, 1 seems to be mike's, 2 JP's, 4 and 5 kevin's, and the last little bit, JM's. i would think james didn't write anything because the song was already written when he did his demos. has anyone else seen the ACoS cover mini posters? they are about 10x10 inches or so and show the front and inside covers. i picked one up, but gave it to mike b. hopefully i can get some more because they are pretty cool. i was going to start another thread, but it just doesn't seem to be the right time for the one i was going to start... Keith Aspinall ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 25 Oct 1995 15:27:11 -0500 (CDT) From: email_address_removed To: email_address_removed Subject: ***IMPORTANT*** Message-ID: NEWS FLASH: Ummmm.....Uhhhhh.... Oh Yeah.....Almost Forgot..... I was at work listening to DT the other day and this guy walked in and said "Who is this?" and so I said "It's Dream Theater". He said "Huh, never heard of 'em". Just thought y'all would like to know that.... Adam... P.S. raise you hand if you've ever been killed in an automobile accident... hehehehehehehehe ------------------------------ End of YTSEJAM Digest 1078 **************************