YTSEJAM Digest 1073 Today's Topics: 1) hey there by Michael Bahr 2) JP Clinic's by email_address_removed 3) Re: YTSEJAM digest 1069 by borlangw 4) by "Richard Karsmakers" 5) Some more similar band songs... by "Richard Karsmakers" 6) RE: The Revolution by email_address_removed.co.uk 7) Dream Theater, what else? by Mike 8) Tour Dates by email_address_removed 9) I'm gone, you bunch o' freaks! by "cam (c.s.) wilson" 10) re: It's Long, Ugly, & Offensive. Be Warned. (NDTC) by "cam (c.s.) wilson" 11) YES IT WAS JP WHO POSTED ON #1068 by JIMMY 12) Bass Player mag poll/Elliott Kim's thread by email_address_removed 13) RE: Graham: I'm counting the days to 14th December. by email_address_removed.co.uk 14) Re: YTSEJAM digest 1068 by Michael Van Opstall 15) Re: YTSEJAM digest 1070 by Michael Van Opstall 16) Birch Hill troubles by Rohit Modak 17) NJ Show by Jon Moury 18) Re: Mega-huge update time by email_address_removed (Chris White) 19) by William Kriski 20) YTSEJAM 1068 final message by email_address_removed.ac.uk (E. Ballinger) 21) Poll results in 1050 by email_address_removed.CA (Nicolas Drouin) 22) NuGGEtMan by email_address_removed 23) Shadow Gallery, Portnoy's fill by email_address_removed.fi (Antti Nyrhinen) 24) Re: dt & drugs by email_address_removed (Ken Bibb) 25) some things are gender issues by email_address_removed (Ken Bibb) 26) Sources for Prog Albums (esp Imports) by Michael Backof 27) DT TRIP by email_address_removed 28) Closed Minds and Lives by Todd Hartmann ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Tue, 24 Oct 1995 01:50:31 -0700 (MST) From: Michael Bahr To: email_address_removed Subject: hey there Message-ID: A few things... To the guy who said Al Balkiewicz is Public Ripoff #2... I'd ease off just a bit, if I'm not mistaken Al has spent the last six months or so in a hospital bed Learning To Live all over again after being in a major spill of some sort (car wreck)? Granted, he should've sent your videos before then, but once it happened, there really wasn't much that could be done. No sense crying over spilt milk. I believe he said he's trying to re-contact those whom he still owes tapes, so as to finally complete the trades. Women "shredders"... I call 'em as I see 'em, and I don't see NEARLY enough of 'em. I'd _love_ to have a woman in my band. Not even as an image/sex appeal/etc thing... women have their own nuances of musicianship and songwriting that are lost to the minds of men, and vice versa (I'd suspect). Tori Amos, Lisa Loeb, and their counterparts in the world of female musicians write some things I never would have thought up, and many have excellent vocals (or chops, in the case of the above two, on piano and guitar respectively). So while I'd say that aggressive, motivated, talented female rockers are a thing to be wanted, I'd also say you're blind if you don't see that they're in woefully short supply. Don't like it? Good. Buy your daughter a bass or an axe and become part of the solution. :) And Hole dosen't count. As soon as she manages to hit a true note, I'll acknowledge C.Love as a musician. Hole goes where only Pearl Jam (with the out-of-tune Tremor Christ) has gone before... gratingly obscene. In case anyone missed the BIG ASS UPDATE in the Jam from tonight, I'll post it again in 2 days to keep everyone current. So the next big update you see will be a re-run, so you can ignore it if you got the first one. It's been updated to 10/23/95, even though in my shortsightedness I forgot to change the effective date on it. What's everyone going as for Halloween parties'n'beer night? I'll be sporting a thick afro, gold chains, belbottoms, and wide collar as Jules from Pulp Fiction. It seemed the thing to do at the time. I imagine I could just put on an overall and I'd then be Mike Portnoy! :) Lost in translation: this sign from a Leipzig hotel lobby. "The elevator is being fixed for the next day. During that time we regret that you will be unbearable." Just a quick note... don't want to tune down to B for playing Lie or Caught in a Web? The songs aren't thrown off TOO much if you translate up to dropped D tuning on bass or guitar and play the tab as drop B (like it said for CIAW in Guitar). (DADGBE and DADG) You'll need a GOOD singer though, since you'll need to translate James upward as well. This works better with less downtuned songs, like Kickstart My Heart or Paranoid. Dream Theater should have a grinning skull on the cover of the next album. I've just always liked that motif, seeing it as a way of throwing blatant spite at propriety (when necessary). They could get one of the Magic artists, like Quinton Hoover, Dan Frazier, or Melissa Benson to draw the cover. Yeah, a grinning skull (accompanied by a thematically matching picture... say... a scene from Hell) would work out great. I like the mystical, interesting covers they've already had, but I think the grinning skull is worth a try. Actual Mesa Tribune newspaper headline... nice double-meaning... "ORGAN FESTIVAL ENDS IN SMASHING CLIMAX" Mike Bahr, email_address_removed ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 24 Oct 1995 05:56:04 -0400 (EDT) From: email_address_removed To: email_address_removed Subject: JP Clinic's Message-ID: I believe someone out there is really wondering why I e-mailed them and not the whole list....mistaken address. Sorry! Anyway, I was wondering if any of you possibly taped any of JP's guitar clinics? I missed the one in Charlotte by two days. I am very interested in seeing this and will either trade a boot for a boot or I will pay cash for a copy. If you read the message I left earlier (Ronnie Scott Show) two jams earlier this is the list that I was referring to: Dance of Eternity 2cd Majestic Harmonies 1cd Lie single cd Silent Man single cd Caught In a Web tape (1st leg of 94 tour) Comedy cd Live @ the Marquee cd When Dream and Day Unite Live in Tokyo Video (not an import) If you have the JP clinic or the Ronnie Scott "bonus tracks" and you see something your interested in, or you have them or access to them please e-mail me. (The Portnoy clinic would be great as well!) Thanks, Brandon ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 24 Oct 1995 11:28:35 +0100 From: borlangw To: email_address_removed Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 1069 Message-ID: Edd wrote: > I'm going to the Satch gig at the SECC in Glasgow on 14th Dec. Do any > jammers who are going want to meet up? OK, if you buy me a pint. Graham B. ______________________________ ______________________________________ |o o| |o o| | Graham Borland |:: | email_address_removed.ac.uk |:: | Dept. of Computing Science |:: | http://www.dcs.gla.ac.uk/~borlangw |:: | Glasgow University |:: | +44 (0)141 357 4033 |:: |______________________________|:: |______________________________________|:: :::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::: :::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::: ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 24 Oct 1995 11:42:29 -0600 (CST) From: "Richard Karsmakers" To: email_address_removed Message-ID: To Joe Kruger: Coming Home Bryan Adams, Scorpions, Saigon Kick, Cinderella, *Mark Knopfler* Crash and Burn Don Dokken, April Wine, *Yngwie Malmsteen* Eye to Eye Asia, Slaughter, *Fates Warning* Fire and Ice Cinderella, Pat Benatar, *Yngwie Malmsteen* Into the Fire Dokken, Bryan Adams, *Deep Purple* Lady Luck Journey, David Lee Roth, *Deep Purple* Lay Your Love on Me Bad Company, Aldo Nova, *Racey* Little Wing Paul Rodgers, Eric Johnson, *SRV*, *Jimi Hendrix* Purple Haze Paul Rodgers, Winger, *Jimi Hendrix* Savage Helloween, Judas Priest, *Cacophony* Stargazer Y & T, Kingdom Come, *Rainbow* Surrender Y & T, Sammy Hagar, Trixter, *Rainbow* Time April Wine, Anthrax, Mcqueen Street, MSG, Bland Lemon, *Mercyful Fate* Tonight Def Leppard, Ozzy Osbourne, Bryan Adams, *NKOTB* And what about: Hall of the Mountain King Rainbow, Savatage To the guy with the Gate of Ivory Dreams .sig: Er...my email time is for free, but some people have to pay per kilobyte. I assume they like your artful .sig rather less. And Digital Man, well, this goes for you too. To the person who mentioned Jordan Rudess as his fave keyboardist: When DT were in Utrecht, the Netherlands, last February, I talked with Mike Portnoy a bit. When I asked him how come Jordan Rudess wasn't in the band, he said that Jordan had been playing the music off sheet music. They played one gig together, apparently, and he was then, er, dismissed. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 24 Oct 1995 11:43:18 -0600 (CST) From: "Richard Karsmakers" To: email_address_removed Subject: Some more similar band songs... Message-ID: And what about: Sick of You - Gwar and Lou Reed ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 24 Oct 1995 11:37:59 +0000 From: email_address_removed.co.uk To: email_address_removed Subject: RE: The Revolution Message-ID: <"3764*/I=P/S=McLoughlin/OU=bra0108/O=icl/PRMD=icl/ADMD=gold 400/C=GB/"@MHS> We are fortunate to have HBB on MTV in Europe. I suggest you need a larger army for the American Revolution. You need to contact the newsgroups and 'jams' for other HM groups to get them to join you . Patricia (Agitator) ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 24 Oct 1995 08:50:41 -0400 (EDT) From: Mike To: email_address_removed Subject: Dream Theater, what else? Message-ID: Hi. I'm Mike, and...and...i'm a DREAM THEATER LISTENER!!! ok. now with that all of the way, and this being my first post to the Ytsejam /serv, it's rather natural to tell people of my first listening to DT. During my freshman year in college, a friend of mine had "Images And Words", and i had heard bits and pices (sp) of it, and i had no real feeling of it. I had another friend, who is/was the lead singer of the band "Rex Hunter", who had ORDERED me to go get this album. I didn't. When "Awake" was released (on the same night as the Mighty Mighty Bosstones's new album came out), i bought it, just because I had heard such good reports. Neadless to say, I wasn't let down. Awake (as you all probably know by now), kicks much ass. Since then, I've gotten I&W, WD&DU, Live at The Marquee, ACOS, Lie and Silent Man singles, two boots: "Live Out Loud", and "A Kick Into A Dream", as well as a copy of "Subconscious", which kicks ass. I think Moore's playing is excellent (In fact, i'm learning "Wait For Sleep" curently), and i see him as the "foundation" in the band...then he left. (shrug). The drummer rocks, as does the guitar. I'm a huge prog fan, and i see DT as the start of the next "generation" of prog. (claps wildly) Now, all i'd like to do is see these guys in concert. Any news of a show near the Philadelphia region? Anyone? Ok. Thanks for your time. Catch ya 'round. m. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 24 Oct 1995 08:50:51 EST From: email_address_removed To: email_address_removed Subject: Tour Dates Message-ID: For those of you who live in the Northeast and still haven't gotten tickets to one of the upcoming DT shows, you should really reconsider. Do you understand? These 3 shows are the ONLY shows until probably the end of next summer. We have been blessed with these upcoming shows. I'm not trying to brag about these shows for people who live out West that can't make it. Anyway, hopefully we'll see a sell-out and some big-time support for DT. Anyone know what company is booting the show? JonBoy ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 24 Oct 1995 07:59:00 -0400 From: "cam (c.s.) wilson" To: email_address_removed Subject: I'm gone, you bunch o' freaks! Message-ID: <"3329 Tue Oct 24 08:36:35 1995"@bnr.ca> well, this is ridiculous...i receive a few Jams a day, and am forced to wade through the 99% content concerning not DT, but BM. idiots! i'm flabbergasted to think that the most dedicated DT fans (not all, but the vast majority) - who would support the Jam - are such completely mindless humans (?). it's absolute crap that these people believe in, if they have any beliefs at all, and i want no more part of it. you can have your precious Blind Melon Jam, and all that goes with it. enjoy ranting and raving about the most mundane topics on earth...i'll catch up on DT thru their newsgroup - the Jam hasn't been worth the bother. adios... ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 24 Oct 1995 07:49:00 -0400 From: "cam (c.s.) wilson" To: email_address_removed Subject: re: It's Long, Ugly, & Offensive. Be Warned. (NDTC) Message-ID: <"2774 Tue Oct 24 08:33:51 1995"@bnr.ca> my dearest Hairball, i wouldn't be _bragging_ about sharing the same opinions with Ted Nugent. sure, i like his earlier guitar maniac rock music, but to listen to the guy talk is like listening to a Charles Manson cartoon. the guy's lost a few too many marbles and simply cannot serve as a role model to anybody in this world. i didn't mourn for Cobain either, but you tend _not_ to make many friends when you publicly state that someone's death is a good thing. get a clue, etc... ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 24 Oct 1995 11:04:11 -0400 (EDT) From: JIMMY To: email_address_removed Cc: Multiple recipients of list Subject: YES IT WAS JP WHO POSTED ON #1068 Message-ID: Yep, it was JP who had the greatest two line post I've ever seen on this mailing list. If you know how to use your systems features, you can type in the address the message was sent from. I did this and it displayed everything but his social security number!! --JIMMY-- ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 24 Oct 1995 11:12:53 EST From: email_address_removed To: email_address_removed Subject: Bass Player mag poll/Elliott Kim's thread Message-ID: First off, Bass Player magazine just published the results to their annual readers poll. John Myung finished 7th. Marcus Miller got the number one spot. Favorite person who doesn't play bass was Neil Peart (sp?). I think 7 is pretty respectable for a new guy that hasn't gotten a lot of publicity. Next year all of us bassists must band together and get Myung into the top five. Second, what a great thread!! Elliott Kim's idea is great. I don't enjoy thinking about anyone in DT being sick, but I found myself intrigued by the idea of replacing these chop-monsters. Guitar: Steve Morse or Trevor Rabin. Steve Morse is an obvious choice. You can hear his influence on Petrucci after just one listen. Rabin is great at the odd time things and has tremendous chops. His tones are pretty different from Petrucci's though, so he'd have to work on that. Besides, I'd love to hear Trevor add some great harmonies to James. The though gives me chills. Bass: Billy Sheehan. I'd say Geddy or Steve Harris, but to be honest, I don't think either of them have the necessary chops. Billy is more of a straight-ahead guy normally, but I know he could play Myung's parts. Of course, Sheehan has never used a six string to my knowledge. This is difficult. Drums: Neil, Mark Zonder (FW), or (I don't want to say it) Vinny Paul Neil would be great, but I don't know if he has Portnoy's double bass ability. Mark Zonder would probably work really well, and I think Paul could probably pull it off, too. I just can't see him play Innocence Faded or Surrounded. That's funny. Vocals: ???? The only person that comes to mind with James quality is Geoff Tate, but he sounds nothing like James. Keys: oh, that one guy, you know--KEVIN MOORE!! Sorry for the long post, but i think this is a cool topic. Sean Haider bassist, INTROSPECTION ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 24 Oct 1995 12:40:19 +0000 From: email_address_removed.co.uk To: email_address_removed Subject: RE: Graham: I'm counting the days to 14th December. Message-ID: <"3765*/I=P/S=McLoughlin/OU=bra0108/O=icl/PRMD=icl/ADMD=gold 400/C=GB/"@MHS> > I'm counting the days to 14th December. (Joe Satriani ?) How far are you from Sheffield ? I've decided to make the trip there on Dec 11th to see Joe as it is a small venue, it has not been promoted locally so there are good tickets. That means I will see Joe Dec 7, 10 and 11 !!! - I hope it does not snow by then ! Patricia ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 24 Oct 1995 10:13:16 -0400 (EDT) From: Michael Van Opstall To: email_address_removed Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 1068 Message-ID: DIE CHAIN-MAIL SCUM!!!!! Michael A. Van Opstall -- email_address_removed For Don Digest Info - e-mail me with subject TDD Remember the Alamo because no one that was there does homework in the middle of the night anymore ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 24 Oct 1995 10:29:38 -0400 (EDT) From: Michael Van Opstall To: email_address_removed Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 1070 Message-ID: Hey, Guys and Girls - I can't help but be a little bitter concerning the recent state of the ytsejam. It makes me sad to see something that was so cool (700-800s) become such a cesspool of disrespect and anger. What used to be a virtually flame-free mailing list (except for those Franks and SloppieJoes) is now a hellish inferno. No information about Dream Theater is being presented. People are posting favorite band lists, favorite this and that lists, and bootleg lists. Anyone attempting to post a bootleg list in the past was toasted and his best chance of survival was to say it was a mistake. Here are the facts that have been presented recently: 1) Shannon Hood is dead 2) Malmsteen's not so bad, 3) There aren't a lot of speedy femal guitarists, 4) Everyone on the list is angry, and 5) DT is doing a few concerts. On that note, let's hear more about DTs "tour." Is it a tour? Is it just a few shows before they head back to the studio? How's the transcription of ACOS going? Next thing you know someone will be sending chain mail to the jam :). Lets see a little respect and intelligence. Not to mention DT content. And if you're sick of all the bitterness, e-mail me to get on the list for the Don Digest, it comes with a complete no-flame guarantee. Michael A. Van Opstall -- email_address_removed For Don Digest Info - e-mail me with subject TDD Remember the Alamo because no one that was there does homework in the middle of the night anymore ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 24 Oct 1995 10:52:42 -0400 (EDT) From: Rohit Modak To: email_address_removed Cc: Multiple recipients of list Subject: Birch Hill troubles Message-ID: Someone asked last jam about getting into the New Jersey show if you're under 18. It ain't gonna happen. Me and some friends went to the summer show there, and were rejected at the door, because one my friends had no ID (even though he was 20, and looked 25). A fake ID might be your only option, if you really want to see the show. I remember they wouldn't even let some guy in who had ID, because they thought it was his brother's ID. Good luck! __________________________________________________________________________ Rohit Modak email_address_removed ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 24 Oct 1995 11:13:23 -0400 (EDT) From: Jon Moury To: email_address_removed Cc: Multiple recipients of list Subject: NJ Show Message-ID: Well now...I was sitting here watching all these posts about the CT show, and the NY show and how all these people are going and how they are all getting together and all that good stuff, and i'm wondering to myself, "Is *anyone* going to the NJ show????" So I decide to post something today to that effect when low and behold in Jam #1070, not one but *two* people post regarding the Jersey show AND they are coming up from Baltimore where I am coming from! So...count me in on whatever get-together planning starts up, I'm 23 so I can go anywhere...well almost anywhere. My top five....oh forget it. :-) Jon. # # RushPinkFloydIronMaidenMetallicaDreamTheaterQueensrycheMegadeth # # I'm calm. I'm directed. I'm..Jon Moury (email_address_removed) ### ### Higher conciousness through harder contact ### ### Life isn't just cheap: it's in the way! #### #### There are forty people in this .sig. None of them can be seen. # # # Vivat Grendel. # # # # ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 24 Oct 95 11:26:30 EDT From: email_address_removed (Chris White) To: email_address_removed Subject: Re: Mega-huge update time Message-ID: Hey there again. I mailed you over the we4ekend about AD, and still havn't heard back, so I'm ot sure if you lost the mail or just havnt logged on recently or what. SO, I decided to mail you again :) I'm curious if you have any more AD CD's, and if so, how much are they again? (I think it's $23, but I can't remember) Let me know, cos I'm ready to order now. :) ($$$ :) Chris ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 24 Oct 1995 09:59:57 -0600 (MDT) From: William Kriski To: email_address_removed Message-ID: 'jammers, I think every few months we should post info regarding the ytsejam for new subscribers. To you new people: That was NOT John Petrucci who posted, so take it easy. This is a joke that's been done before. I think some people need to lighten up. I agree that distasteful comments about BM shouldn't be posted, but it's hard for a lot of people to feel bad about someone dying that they don't know, and I don't think there are evil for posting jokes. Some people deal with things that way. How many of us have joked about Elvis or Liberace? Fred: I think you asked about DT's CD's. Definitely pick up Live at the Marquee. It's great quality. I'd pick up WDADU although I hardly listen to it, but it made me appreciate James LaBrie when I heard him sing The Killing Hand. If you're low on money go for LatM. Also, I'd pick up Fates Warning Parallels as a first try. I still haven't got the new Fates but it's just a collection of older stuff in general. Will ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 24 Oct 1995 16:09:27 +0000 From: email_address_removed.ac.uk (E. Ballinger) To: email_address_removed Subject: YTSEJAM 1068 final message Message-ID: Er, just read the message from a certain John Petrucci... Is this the real John Petrucci? Going by the address, I presume it's his wife's address. Anyway, as to what he said, well it certainly says something to all the 'Jammers who've been quite sick in their responses about the subject. Even JP (who was after all, the target, along with the rest of DT, of the Blind Melon comments) has the humanity to post a message of respect like that. It shows that this Blind Melon thing was blown out of all preportion by the Jam, and SH's untimely death showed from the messages posted, who on the 'Jam was taking it far too seriously. The joking should have stopped with SH's death. Hopefully, now it has. Edd. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 24 Oct 1995 12:13:01 -0400 From: email_address_removed.CA (Nicolas Drouin) To: email_address_removed Subject: Poll results in 1050 Message-ID: Thanks to all you 15 peoples who sent me an E-mail for the ultimate lineup poll in 1050 Here are the results in order of preference: On drums guitars bass keyboards singer Neil Peart J.Petrucci G.Lee R.Wakeman J.Anderson Mike Portnoy E.Van Halen C.Squire T.Banks J.Labrie S.Howe Honorable mentions to Alan White S.Vai S.Harris K.Emerson P.Gabriel Bill Bruford J.Myung G.Lee *************************************************************** * * *THE NEXT POLL QUESTION IS "what are your'e best epic songs" * *for example ACOS,2112,supper's ready,gates of delirium,etc.. * *************************************************************** Ok let's vote!!!!!!!! ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 24 Oct 1995 11:25:46 -0500 (CDT) From: email_address_removed To: email_address_removed Subject: NuGGEtMan Message-ID: Hey man we'll destroy him when he comes back.. Freeza ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 24 Oct 1995 18:46:27 +0200 From: email_address_removed.fi (Antti Nyrhinen) To: email_address_removed Subject: Shadow Gallery, Portnoy's fill Message-ID: Hi everyone, those of you familiar with Shadow Gallery, could you please e-mail me and tell me what their earlier album is like? See, I bought the "Carved in Stone" CD for a friend today and it sounded ok.. But at the shop they also had one CD from 1992, I can't remember the name though. The shopkeeper told me the newer one is heavier, but when I listened to it, it didn't seem that heavy.. Lots of piano stuff. How is the older one, compared to "Carved in Stone"? Thanks in advance for any comments.. As for DT content, has everyone noticed that Portnoy uses this same interesting fill twice during ACOS.. Being a total idiot when it comes to musical theory, I can't describe it intelligently. The kick drum sort of carries the fill, but a cymbal and the snare are used as well. I think the first time is around Another World, and that time it's quite slow.. But it is repeated during The Inevitable Summer, faster. Ok. That was boring news. I just thought I have to come up with DT content since everyone is so grumpy nowadays about what people post on the list :-) Stay happy, Antti Nyrhinen -- Antti Nyrhinen --- "Gather Ye rosebuds while you may" Turku, Finland --- email_address_removed.fi DreamTheaterPanteraSentencedEtc. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 24 Oct 1995 10:04:55 +0800 From: email_address_removed (Ken Bibb) To: ytsejam Subject: Re: dt & drugs Message-ID: > If they did drugs when they write any of their songs, I would lose > what respect I have for them as musicians and for their work. 1. If you already like a song what difference does it make whether the song was written under the influence of something? If Kevin Moore was ill and took some codeine while writing Metropolis, does that mean that it is no longer an incredible song? 2. I suspect that someone in DT drank a cup of coffee while writing their songs. Coffee contains caffeine which is a drug. Does that mean you now no longer have any respect for them? 3. A person should be allowed to do whatever that person wants to do as long as they are not hurting anyone else. Just because their code of morality is different from yours does not mean that they should be condemned. As an example, Marijuana is legal in many countries and is part of their cultural heritage. Does that mean that their culture is reprehensible? Some cultures consider caffeine to be at least as evil as marijuana--should all caffeine drinkers be condemned? This whole attitude of condemning people whether they are musicians, drug users, or short-hairs is the source of much strife. Try to get along :) -- Ken Bibb "If the boundary breaks I'm no longer alone email_address_removed Don't discourage me email_address_removed Bring out the stars/On the first day" David Sylvian--"The First Day" ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 24 Oct 1995 10:28:05 +0800 From: email_address_removed (Ken Bibb) To: ytsejam Subject: some things are gender issues Message-ID: Bucketbot said: > Now, regarding making something a gender issue... you were full of shit > big time there Just for the record, neuroscience has shown that there *are* differences in brain structure between the sexes (Kandel/Schwarz 1985:771-783). These are caused by the introduction of testosterone during a critical period. So some things really *are* related to gender differences. On the other hand, just because the structures are different does not mean that one is "better" than the other. Studies have shown that aggressive behavior appear to be tied to sex (in rats), but I personally feel that nurture has as much influence as nature in this situation. Kandel, Eric and Schwarz, James. "Principles of Neural Science Second Edition". New York, NY: 1985. -- Ken Bibb "If the boundary breaks I'm no longer alone email_address_removed Don't discourage me email_address_removed Bring out the stars/On the first day" David Sylvian--"The First Day" ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 24 Oct 1995 12:13:41 -0400 (EDT) From: Michael Backof To: email_address_removed Subject: Sources for Prog Albums (esp Imports) Message-ID: Hello Jammers, Someone asked about getting the Ivanhoe release Symbols of Time. You can e-mail the following to people, they should have it in stock, or can get it. email_address_removed The Laser's Edge run by Ken Golden email_address_removed Sights and Sounds I forget who runs this shop There is also a FAQL that is part of the rec.music.progressive FAQL that has a list of dealers in progressive and import music. Please note that these people do not sell bootlegs, just legitimate import releases. They are a much cheaper and more reliable way to get import music than to trust CDEurope. Eventually this document will be on my WWW page. Later, Mike Backof email_address_removed http://www.gl.umbc.edu/~mbacko1 ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 24 Oct 1995 11:33:06 -0500 (CDT) From: email_address_removed To: email_address_removed Subject: DT TRIP Message-ID: hello Kylania and other kids. I want in on that trip also....anybody else here in the south wanna go? I'm in Memphis and I also have never seen DT live..... never...... help me.......... Joe ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 24 Oct 1995 11:42:48 -0500 (CDT) From: Todd Hartmann To: email_address_removed Subject: Closed Minds and Lives Message-ID: Hey Jammers, Someone [who? I dunno] said: > have powerful urges to send dt a big fat message saying that if they ever > use drugs i'm going to kick their ass. not that i'm that pompous, it's just > that i think it would pain me much to hear that the music that moves me so > was created through or even by someone using some substance i don't > appreciate/understand/condone. not to mention that drugs would most likely > lead to the end or upset of dt. maybe i'm just a prude. > > anyone else feel this way also? I wonder what effect they drugs have had on Kevin Moore and his decision to leave Dream Theater -- the stuff on his demo "get that sh*t outta my face it only makes me happy anyway" (somebody >please< correct me if I've misquoted Moore I don't have the lyrics around) leads me to believe he has some acquaintance with mind-altering substances. "Find all you need in your mind" -- >thought itself< is a mind-altering thing. Many is the time when we have an idea and it makes us "change our minds." "Robert Quezada" replied to Someone's post like this: > In a way, I do. I'd never tell DT that I'd kick their ass, though. > They'd probably kick mine if I tried it. > > If they did drugs when they write any of their songs, I would lose > what respect I have for them as musicians and for their work. Now I must attempt some mind-alteration by communicating thoughts, because that has to be the most narrow-minded thing I've heard in a few days (and I watched Fidel on CSPAN last night). Just to get personal here, I find sports repugnant. We are two centuries in to the Industrial Revolution (it isn't over yet) and physical competition is still an important part of too many people's lives! I found out here on Ytsejam that Mike Portnoy is a boxing fan, even to the point of wearing a "Free Mike Tyson" shirt. Big deal. I want to hear him play drums excellently. That he spends >his< time watching brain-damaged gladiators pummel each other is not much of an issue to me. I personally would rather him read Heinlein (who occasionally watched televised football! The horrors!) or Niven than watch boxing, but it's >his< time. If watching boxing while playing drums helps him play, the more the better! Don't even get me started on Jon Anderson's ecostupidity, or Paul McCartney's vegetarianism, or Don Henly's socialist politics. I still enjoy their music (lyrics, in Henly's case). The only musicians the p*ss me off with their views/hobbies/whatever are the ones who die from them - Hendrix, Mercury, etc., and that's because I'm selfish and wanted to hear more of their music but in the end it's all >their< lives anyway. Sorry for bogarting the bandwidth. Just give me weed, whites, and wine! -Todd ps: "whites" refers to "white cross" (ephedrine), those are Little Feat lyrics not a David Duke speech. /* email_address_removed http://www.bga.com/~toddh/toddh.html */ ------------------------------ End of YTSEJAM Digest 1073 **************************