YTSEJAM Digest 1072 Today's Topics: 1) blind melon dude by "Brian V. Cox" 2) Shannon Hoon (or whatever his name was) by email_address_removed (Bracken MacLeod) 3) mailto:ytsejam@arastar.com by "IT'S BETTER TO BURN OUT, THAN FADE AWAY" 4) mailto:ytsejam@arastar.com by "IT'S BETTER TO BURN OUT, THAN FADE AWAY" 5) Moral Musings by email_address_removed (James Garrett) 6) Who are we? by The Digital Man 7) BIG ASS UPDATE - AD, WDATU, CYG by Michael Bahr 8) Losers by email_address_removed 9) *****IMPORTANT***** by email_address_removed 10) Opinions of death by "Randall W. Aquino" 11) Interesting by Michael Bahr ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Tue, 24 Oct 1995 00:31:08 -0500 (CDT) From: "Brian V. Cox" To: email_address_removed Subject: blind melon dude Message-ID: well, me and my friend jonathat drove by number's in houston on friday night, where blind melon played their last show before the singer died. we were thinking about stopping and spray painting the tour bus with a majesty symbol or something (well at least i was) :) so i hope it wasnt the negative thoughts that i threw his way. oh well. btw, the place, "numbers", that they played their last gig at is only two blocks down the street from the tower theater, featured in the live in tokyo video. really pisses me off...the tower theater is turning into a video rental store. it was one of my favorite venues, and was the place that i first saw king's x and galactic cowboys, as well as the place i saw dream theater play at 3 times. it will be missed... ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~Brian V. Cox~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ "I built a wall around my garden Rush When people started telling me what to grow, Dream Theater It's cold and callous and throws a heavy shadow, King's X Over the field I choose to call my own Queensryche I hate the wall and its selfish display echolyn My garden becoming sterile in its pretentiousness, Fates Warning My direction lost in shallow righteousness Tori Amos There's something wrong with this... DAT Taper/Trader... Suffocating the bloom...and every blossom" -echolyn ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~email_address_removed~~~~~~~http://http.tamu.edu/~bvc8995~~~~~~~~~~~ ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 23 Oct 1995 23:48:40 -0600 (MDT) From: email_address_removed (Bracken MacLeod) To: email_address_removed Subject: Shannon Hoon (or whatever his name was) Message-ID: I have only two words to describe my feelings about Shannon Hoon's "untimely" (whatever the hell THAT means) death. So what. I can describe everything I ever knew about the man and his music in one word. Banal. Let's get back to something that moves me. Dream Theater's music. By the way, I simply don't care that he's dead not because his bandmates are narrow minded cretins when it comes to opinions concerning artistic ability, but rather because I JUST DON'T CARE. His death neither amuses nor saddens me. He's no one of consequence on this list. Let's move on. My last words. Hairball, I'm behind you on the =) thing. Why should the dead get a moment of silence? Fuck the dead! Let's have a moment of muffled conversation for those who were treated and released. (George Carlin reference.) :) But seriously folks, having a little respect for the living is a more pressing issue than respecting the dead. Let's face it, SH is worm food. Let's get back to the band members that we LIKE. Slainte mhath, Bracken P.S. If I offended anyone, I guess that's the breaks. I didn't intend to, but I'm not sorry. "...Without music, life would be an error." Nietzsche -Twilight of the Idols- ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 24 Oct 1995 2:04:28 -0400 (EDT) From: "IT'S BETTER TO BURN OUT, THAN FADE AWAY" To: email_address_removed Subject: mailto:ytsejam@arastar.com Message-ID: X-URL: mailto:ytsejam@arastar.com X-Mailer: Lynx, Version 2-4 X-Personal_name: Rob Wallace X-From: email_address_removed subscribe ytsejam Rob Wallace ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 24 Oct 1995 2:05:24 -0400 (EDT) From: "IT'S BETTER TO BURN OUT, THAN FADE AWAY" To: email_address_removed Subject: mailto:ytsejam@arastar.com Message-ID: X-URL: mailto:ytsejam@arastar.com X-Mailer: Lynx, Version 2-4 X-Personal_name: Rob Wallace X-From: email_address_removed.cc.ny.us subscribe ytsejam Rob Wallace ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 23 Oct 1995 23:49:00 -0700 From: email_address_removed (James Garrett) To: email_address_removed Subject: Moral Musings Message-ID: One disgruntled jammer wrote: > i thot DT would warrant an >intellectually stimulating discussion forum, with some fun stuff thrown >in. talk a bit about their music, the band, shows and cds, meeting place, >whatever. i could never have anticipated the level that discussion has sunk >to: blind melon this and blind melon that, punk sux, kevin's got cancer, >female guitarists suck, DT's a hair band, grunge blows, the list goes on. >the best i can look forward to is the latest update on Mike Bahr's CD >mailout, and i can't even afford to check out one of those cool-sounding >CDs. > How about this for something "intellectually stimulating:" There has been a thread going around that DT uses a lot of Christian symbolism. However, they also use some very pagan symbolism also, the reference to Cassandra for example. How does the justaposition of the Pagan with the Christian make DT's music more powerful or does it detract from it? I have a comment on the symbolism of the burning heart (I'm looking at the Live at the Marquee CD). I liked the connection to the Trinity made by several jammers. However, both the heart(wooden) and the barbed wire are man made, suggesting artificiality, and implying that religions are man made and that our current religious beliefs will be transformed(fire is a symbol of transformation) into something we cannot yet imagine by the music. Rob writes: >Hello all, > I just got through Ytsejam 1065 in which several people revealed >that Shannon Hoon of Blind Melon was found dead on their tour bus. I >noted that at least three of these messages expressed some kind of >positive reaction to this. I have eight words for you people: WHAT THE >FUCK IS THE MATTER WITH YOU??? This is a HUMAN LIFE we are talking about >here! Somebody commented that he "didn't give a rat's ass about someone >who acted the way he did" and that he wished some of the other band members >would follow. Praytell, what major offensive moral infraction did >Shannon Hoon commit? Was he a ruthless dictator of a third-world >country? A serial rapist? A child molester? Oh, I'm sorry; that's >right--a couple of his bandmates made fun of your favorite band! Oh, the >humanity! If I'm correct, his death is also going to leave a child >fatherless. But that's okay, right? His band didn't like Dream Theater; >they're not worthy of life...you make me fucking sick. > >--ROb > > He was irresponsible, not immoral. I have to admit, that I used to occasionally use drugs, but now that I am married and have a child, I chose not to. Not because I think that drugs are evil, but because I know that they are dangerous and that my family depends on my being there. 1. Shannon Hoon knew the dangers of drugs (how can anybody not know with all the advertising and educating going on?) 2. Shannon Hoon knew that he had a family (at least a child according to the above report). 3. Shannon Hoon did drugs anyway. 4. Shannon Hoon's family pays the price. He put his pleasure over the wellfare of his child; that is what should make you fucking sick. He had a choice. His child did not choose to be without a daddy. I have no remorse for the guy, but I feel deeply for his child. It is ironic that his death happened when we were doing alot of Melon bashing. James Garrett ________________________________ email_address_removed This album contains material which a truly free society would neither fear nor suppress. Frank Zappa ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 24 Oct 1995 01:13:54 -0400 (EDT) From: The Digital Man To: Ytse Jam Subject: Who are we? Message-ID: Yeah, yeah, this has probably been done before, but I'm new here, so cut me some slack. I just thought it would be interesting if we all posted a little bit of biographical info about ourselves. You know, see who's out there. So, here goes: I'm a 23-y-o male. I'm from Rockville Centre, LI, NY. I'm a Master's Degree student at UVM in Computer Science. I've been playing bass for about 8 years, and acoustic guitar for about 3. Any other interesting facts we should include? Oh, yeah... I'll be at the Malibu on 12/28!!!!!!!! AMF! -Chris "On the day I die, thank God my soul will be released" - Blind Melon ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 23 Oct 1995 22:27:51 -0700 (MST) From: Michael Bahr To: email_address_removed Cc: email_address_removed Subject: BIG ASS UPDATE - AD, WDATU, CYG Message-ID: LIMITED EDITION COMPACT DISCS Information and Update Current to 10/13/1995 Currently available: Rush "Cygnus" and Dream Theater "Acoustic Dreams" Currently open to pre-ordering: Dream Theater "When Dream and Today Unite" NOTE: INTERNET EMAIL ADDRESS CHANGE: I am now email_address_removed ============================================================================ DISCLAIMER: These recordings fall into a grey area of law as an uncopyrighted recording produced in such a manner that at least one facet of the production occurs in a country (namely Italy) in which it is legal to do so. In the USA, it is permissible to sell used import CDs only if they are labeled as such. This is such a CD. Be aware that the various powers-that-be are collecting nothing for this. ============================================================================ Of course, that's all cover-my-butt lawyerspeak. I hope you all will want to be a part of this. I make roughly minimum wage doing it, so you know I'm not out to scam you. In all humility, I appeal to anyone who might not think too kindly of my endeavor, and ask that they might give me the benefit of the doubt on this one. Friends? :) 1. What is Acoustic Dreams? 2. What is Cygnus? 3. What is When Dream And Today Unite? 4. What is the release schedule? 5. How can I get my own copy of one of these CDs? 6. Orders received for Acoustic Dreams and When Dream and Today Unite. ============================================================================ 1. What is Acoustic Dreams? Hi all! Allow me to introduce myself, if you aren't familiar with me yet. I'm Mike Bahr, humble maker of special-edition CDs. I noticed a lot of the mass-manufactured bootleg offerings were spiralling quite high in price and yet offered little for the die-hard fan, and I concocted a scheme by which I could make around minimum wage by producing CDs on my own, CDs that would fill the demand for REAL rarities and special songs, unreleased items, live shows, and the like. Basically, since no CD plant will print them for me, I have to rent studio and equipment time and do it myself. So far, it's working. :) Fortunately, and for this I am very relieved, my Subconscious CD has been incredibly well-received by the net community, especially the Ytsejam mailing list. I just do what I can do and leave the rest up to God, and I guess the Almighty isn't disappointing you folks. People from all walks of life, all countries of the world, both sexes, all races, and all religions have joined in on the Subconscious and Cygnus projects, and I am very happy to have you all along for the ride. I'll keep making CDs as long as you folks are willing to keep buying them. Thanks so _very_ much... :) And now, I have Acoustic Dreams on tap. Well, this is the current CD I've made, also known as Dream Theater Unplugged. We were given a VERY high-quality soundboard tape of DT's recent Unplugged performance in Europe, and it can only be fully expressed in the form of a CD. Trust me. :) I am fervently hoping that the finished product is well-liked. Acoustic Dreams 1. Another Day 2. Lifting Shadows off a Dream 3. Wait For Sleep 4. The Silent Man 5. Lie (boogie version) 6. Tears (Rush cover) 7. O Holy Night Electric Extras 8. Perfect Strangers (with Bruce Dickinson on vocals) 9. 6:00 (performed in session with a much better mix) 10. Caught In A Web (another better performance) Bonus Tracks (acoustic) 11. Voices (just a small part of it was all there was) acoustic 12. Bad (U2 cover) acoustic I hope that once you've heard it, you will, like me, have your breath taken away by the beauty of the acoustic tracks and the clarity and sharpness of the electric mixes. Note: The CD says "Majesty" and not "Dream Theater" on it. This is for legal reasons. Majesty was DT's original name anyway. It may not be current, but it works. 2. What is Cygnus? It is a Rush recording from the mystical Hemispheres tour of 1978. I still have some copies available. It was recorded from a soundboard reel and the quality is comparable to that of Electric Ladyland '74. It's full stereo and the bass and vocals are very clear, the effects very defined, but the drum sound has heard better days. It's still better than 99% of all the Rush shows on tape, I can attest to that specifically. :) Track listing: 1. Anthem 2. A Passage to Bangkok 3. By-Tor and the Snow Dog -> i. At the Tobes of Hades ii. Across the Styx iii. Of the Battle 4. Xanadu 5. Something For Nothing (glitch at end, missing nearly nothing) 6. The Trees 7. Cygnus X-1 (dropout at end, missing last 16 secs before bells) 8. Cygnus X-1 Book II: Hemispheres i. Prelude ii. Apollo iii. Dionysus iv. Armageddon (dropout at end, missing ~40 secs of closing) v. Cygnus vi. The Sphere 9. Circumstances 10. A Farewell to Kings The dropouts aren't a big deal really, but in the interest of honesty I am pointing them out. They were on the master reel. Also, like Subconscious and Acoustic Dreams, this CD does not bear the name "Rush". It says "Cygnus" on the label and lists cover credits. Don't be fooled; it's Rush, just like the others are DT. It's for legal reasons. Before Italy started making boots in 1991, all US vinyl boots were the same way. 3. What is When Dream and Today Unite? This work, still in production, contains all the songs from When Dream and Day Unite, only performed live with James LaBrie at the helm. It should be released around Christmas. Here's the tracklisting: 1. A Fortune In Lies 2. Status Seeker 3. Ytsejam 4. Another Hand/The Killing Hand 5. Light Fuse and Get Away 6. Mission Impossible 7. Afterlife 8. The Ones Who Help to Set the Sun 9. Only A Matter Of Time 10. March of the Tyrant 11. To Live Forever 12. Moon Bubbles Most of those will be separate like that, but Mission Impossible and March of the Tyrant are short so they may not be divided. We'll see. I'll try to make it as listenable as possible... after all, who ever listens to the first part of a medley and not the second... etc. I've already begun accepting early orders for this, if you don't mind the wait. The details on ordering are below. 4. What is the release schedule? Here is the current schedule of releases as I see it (all dates estimated): NOW - Rush: "Cygnus" released/shipping NOW - Dream Theater: "Acoustic Dreams" released/shipping NOW - Dream Theater: "When Dream and Today Unite" ordering begins 12/15/1995 - Dream Theater: "Antiquities" ordering begins 12/25/1995 - Dream Theater: "When Dream and Today Unite" released/shipping 01/01/1996 - Dream Theater: "Scenes From a Memory" ordering begins 01/30/1996 - Dream Theater: "Antiquities" released/shipping 03/17/1996 - Dream Theater: "Scenes From a Memory" ordering begins 02/--/1996 - Public Affection: "Death of a Dictionary", details TBA 03/--/1996 - Rush: To be announced 04/--/1996 - Live or Type O-Negative: To be announced 05/--/1996 - Dream Theater: To be announced Here are a few descriptions to keep your curiosity satiated :) Dream Theater "Subconscious" Released 04/03/1995 - Limited Edition - 500 copies - sold out Contained Dream Theater rarities including A Change of Seasons. All copies were hand initialed/numbered in gold for authenticity. Rush "Cygnus" Released 08/14/1995 - Limited Edition - 1000 copies - still available Contains a rare soundboard show from the Hemispheres tour. Dream Theater "Acoustic Dreams" Released 09/30/1995 - Limited Edition of 500 copies - still available Each copy is hand signed/numbered in silver for authenticity. Contains beautiful unplugged performances. Dream Theater "When Dream and Today Unite" To be released 12/25/1995 - Limited print of either 500 or 1000. Contains the songs from Dream and Day only with James LaBrie on vocals. Collected from MANY sources and optimized for quality. Dream Theater "Antiquities" Details TBA - Limited print of either 500 or 1000. Each copy will be hand signed/numbered for authenticity. Will contain vocalist auditions, demos, errata, outtakes, unfinished works, unreleased tracks, and the like. Dream Theater "Scenes From a Memory" Details TBA - Limited print of 500 copies. Each copy will be hand signed/numbered for authenticity. This could wind up being any of four or five different shows or song collections, as there are a few soundboard tapes I'm working on to try and get a good sound out of them. Public Affection "The Death of a Dictionary" Details TBA - Unlimited print Is actually +Live+'s little-known first album, released in 1989, two years before their 1991 breakthrough Mental Jewelry. Demand for this one is skyrocketing, and the Jam gets first shot at it. The only thing stopping it right at the moment is the overwhelming demand for the DT discs and the lack of manpower on my end. The following are all "Work in Progress" releases... Rush other titles I'm considering (for any of the given shows): Land's Edge, Storm World, Lifeforce, Arena of the Ancients... Rush "A Symptom of Life" - from 12/20/81 2nd gen soundboard Contains a LOT of neat stuff. a LOT. But very long... 2 CD set? Rush "Concordant Crossroads" - from 3/24/81 audience MASTER in stereo This one has unbelievable good sound quality. It's a tossup whether to take this or Symptom, since both are so good but so similar. Rush "Sleight of Mind" - from a remastered 6/25/75 Toronto This tour has been very underrepresented in available material, so who knows, if S.H.'s cleanup efforts turn out good... +Live+ "Disenchanting Discourse" - from a 10/25/94 audience MASTER in stereo It might be released, it might not, depending on many things. If you would like to see it released, please let me know and let as many people know as you can. I tend to find ways to release things when I find an overwhelming demand for them. :) I also have an audience DAT from 8/8/95, which is pretty damn good. I may synthesize the two shows to get all the "Rare" songs onto the CD. (Freaks, Supernatural, Breakin' Up, Jewelry songs, etc.) Type O-Negative "Deathgrip" - from a 5/30/94 audience MASTER in stereo A great setlist and decent sound. Only my worries about how many copies I can sell prevent this. I can't undertake anything less than a potential sellout project or I risk going under. Again, if this is a title you'd like to see, you can make it happen. All I need is a lot of interest, and away we go! So far I've had a few positive replies... much much more are needed though. Dream Theater... oh who knows, there's so much good stuff. Possible shows: Osaka soundboard from late 1992 Hamburg soundboard from spring 1993 various excellent DATs recorded in Texas 5. How can I order a copy of one of these CDs? As stated before, I'm already shipping the CDs by and by. I ship orders in the order I received your checks, so those of you who sent your mail around when ordering began, those will be the first CDs out the door. I usually get a couple dozen a day into the mail. Be sure to correct this against the release schedule... e.g. I'm caught up on Cygnus so those will turn around fast. Acoustic Dreams is still in a queue and I'm crankin those out as fast as possible. WDATU is still in pre-order and won't ship until the end of December anyhow. Feel free to e-mail me to reserve a copy for you, so that your mail will have a copy allocated to it already (and not be a victim of "no-more- disc-syndrome"). I've still got more available. The numbering, excepting special requests when possible, will fill in the order I receive the mail orders. It's only fair after all. I'll reserve a copy for someone over e-mail, but if thirty people get their orders in before he or she does, it's not fair for me to still hold copy #014 or whatever. You all get the idea... these decisions are just in the effort to make it fair for all. Please, I stress to all of you, don't miss these if you missed Subconscious. It really does pain me to have to tell a fellow DT fan that there simply aren't any more Sub discs to be had, especially because I would be MORE than glad to sell one if I had it. The pricing for all the CDs so far is as follows ($2 discount for Cygnus if you're on the Jam.) Base cost: $25.00 US Additional postage USA free Additional postage Canada / Mex $1.00 US Additional postage Scandinavia $3.00 US * Additional postage Europe $4.00 US Additional postage Japan $5.00 US Additional postage Aus/NZ/etc. $5.00 US * Scandinavia includes Norway, Sweden, Finland, Denmark. For some reason postal rates are lower than for mainland Europe or the UK. Postal rates were changed, but the postage cost MUST ONLY BE PAID ONCE. If you live in Europe and you order 4 discs, the cost is $104.00 US ($25.00 x 4, plus $4.00 postage) and not $116.00 US. Thus, if you have friends who want copies, I am more than willing to help you out. :) So no matter how many CDs you want, only add the postage cost Once. Things are pretty simple from here. Send along a money order for $25 bucks to my address, being sure to include a note with your name, the address to ship to, your email address, and WHICH CDs you're ordering so I know which ones to send you...... and HOW MANY you're ordering. As before, international customers may use whatever means of payment is most convenient for them, though I stress that sending cash is risky and should not be a first option, but a backup plan. :) CHECKS: I don't really mind them, but in the effort to be seen as a serious and responsible net merchant, I always recommend the traceable-both-ways Money Order as a preferred form of payment. So while checks are perfectly OK, they may or may not be the option you choose to take. Please make out checks and money orders to me, Mike Bahr. The address and so on is me at: Mike Bahr - Acoustic Dreams (or Cygnus, or WDATU, or whatever) 3175 N. Price Rd. #1066 Chandler, AZ 85224 My home telephone number, available as a courtesy to you, is 1-602-777-0501. I am usually not home on weekends (band practice) so try during the week, between 6pm and 11pm pacific time, for best results. Also, please use discretion when handling this number, as it is, after all, my own home phone, and I will be very confused if a stranger calls at 3:00 AM. :) I trust you Jammers to be cool about it, as you always have in the past. Also... watch your time zones! I had one fellow calling at 6:00 AM. Owch! 6. Orders received. This is NOT "reservations"... it's paid-for orders. If you have a reservation, it's still valid, trust me. :) These are just the numbers that are filled. Also there are a handful of "saved numbers" in there. Acoustic Dreams 001 Master 002 Press Master A 003 Press Master B 004 Mike Bahr 005 Justin Poulter 006 Steve McMaster 007 David Fox 008 Robert Dalton 009 John Kotzian 010 Michael Burstin 011 Brian Cox 012 Scott Hansen 013 Mike Portnoy 014 Mike Portnoy 015 Mike Portnoy 016 Bracken MacLeod 017 John Nguyen 018 Nathan Bradley 019 Jeremy Smith 020 Todd Masek 021 Graham Borland 022 Mark Tedhams 023 Brian Fieg 024 Adam Japhet 025 Steve Chew 026 Kristian Reyes 027 Alan Wilds 028 Jeff Stewart 029 Matt McIntosh 030 Brian Polka 031 Stephan Dobay 032 Dale Newberry 033 Scott Hansen 034 Sanjeev Ghai 035 Sanjeev Ghai 036 Mike Robinson 037 Paul Poehler 038 Lisa Gaunt 039 Tracy Mangum 040 Jeff Forte 041 Robert Castilone 042 Bracken Odiorne 043 Jean-Francois Cote' 044 Uffe Moller 045 Steve Esterle 046 Chad Smith 047 Scott McCammon 048 David Edwards 049 Craig Newmeyer 050 Partha Mukhopadhyay 051 Dave Silva 052 Dave Silva 053 Dave Silva 054 Dave Silva 055 Robert MacAusland 056 Jason Breitweg 057 Demetris Papallis 058 Adam Marshall 059 Paul Goracke 060 Andrew Garinger 061 Alex Fraser 062 Uffe Moller 063 Fred Ward 064 Matt Masi 065 Iwahori Tomonori 066 Iwahori Tomonori 067 Michael Backof 068 Brian Ross 069 Anna Davidson 070 Kjetil Nordahl 071 Kjetil Nordahl 072 Kjetil Nordahl 073 Bill Wrightson 074 S. Johnson 075 Jaison John 076 Jaison John 077 Craig Newmeyer 078 Paul Humm 079 Jay Miller 080 Astrid De Ronde 081 Jason MacDonald 082 Scott Kuennen 083 Scott Kuennen 084 Rick Beem 085 Mike Ringelstetter 086 Conrad Chi 087 Brian Kirk 088 Brian Adams 089 Chris Freel 090 Chris Freel 091 Patrick Davis 092 Dave Fausel 093 Chris Derobertis 094 Sean Brady 095 S. Craig Caldwell 096 Andrew Stiles 097 Gregory Bunker 098 Eddie Webb 099 Edwin Million 100 Jenn Albert 101 Jenn Albert 102 Jeff Hill 103 Mike Olekshy 104 David Delmont 105 Derek Bober 106 Adam Japhet 107 Jamie Burks 108 George Fan 109 Tony Maglia 110 Stephen Soukup 111 Sookapat Niyomthai 112 David DeSalvo 113 Randy Haskin 114 Jennifer Sharward 115 Bryan Hunter 116 Bryan Hunter 117 Todd Dakin 118 J. R. McCullough 119 Jeff Chew 120 Patrick Sullivan 121 Patrick Sullivan 122 Pete Dziadzka 123 Ken Bibb 124 Jason Russell 125 Gary Ake 126 Bernd Basmer 127 Stefan Sutter 128 Chad Cook 129 Jason Danio 130 Brandon Elhai 131 Mathew Yee 132 Eric Gauthier 133 Eric Gauthier 134 Wilco Barg 135 Joe Kruger 136 Rob Pociluk 137 Brenden Thomson 138 Marton Stromgald 139 Asif Khan 140 Jarrod Ramsey-Lewis 141 Jon Kretschmer 142 Jon Kretschmer 143 Michael Pomerleau 144 Ronald Tijhuis 145 Bill Nottingham 146 James Garrett 147 Reenoitnevnoc 148 Stephane Auzilleau 149 Stephane Auzilleau 150 Stephane Auzilleau 151 Stephane Auzilleau 152 Bear Jason 153 Ken Hugo Hoili 154 Paul Cashman 155 Shigeru Yamashita 156 Brian Ross 157 Takumi Akiyama 158 John Sievers 159 David Russum 160 David Russum 161 David Russum 162 Stefan Rau 163 Stefan Rau 164 Martin Hayter 165 Martin Hayter 166 Eugene Szucs 167 Warren Williams 168 Tilman Kuendgen 169 Tilman Kuendgen 170 Tilman Kuendgen 171 Chad Preston 172 Gregory Cole 173 Heath Augustover 174 Chris Fyhr 175 Chris Fyhr 176 Chris Fyhr 177 Bill Huston 178 Tim Jensen 179 James Abraham 180 Jeffrey Smith 181 Michael Coghlan 182 Brett Owens 183 David Kobayashi 184 Elliott Kim 185 Ed Polzin 186 Sean Gill 187 Tim Altman 188 Alexis Ramos 189 James Daugherty 190 Jon Heller 191 George Bast 192 Paul Cashman 193 Ramin Miraftabi 194 Stacie Rosenzweig 195 Ryan Whitaker 196 Brian Vivier 197 Kevin Villines 198 Mike Rapazzo 199 Koby Fuessler 200 Merieke Ri Berit 201 Chris Pokladnik 202 Ties Gobel 203 Ties Gobel 204 Chuck Hanley 205 Yuji Miyazaki 206 Chad David 207 Chad David 208 Chad David 209 Bill Polymenakos 210 Greg Sands 211 Greg Sands 212 Ryan Park 213 Evelyn Lauer 214 James Abraham 215 Jun-Dai Bates 216 Carmen Pezzone 217 Carmen Pezzone 218 Tom Tubbiola 219 Ryan Skadberg 220 Ryan Skadberg 221 Patricia McLoughlin 222 Jacob Caminati 223 Rob Schenk 224 Carmen Pezzone 225 Jason Russell 226 Kevin Czarnecki 227 Randall Braun 228 Eric Marlett 229 Richie Rivera 230 David Hafke 231 Greg Pickesimer 232 Itchak Schwarzbard 233 Brian Anderson 234 Brian Anderson 235 David Carver 236 Matthew Berger 237 James Delaney 238 Matt Palzewicz 239 Mark Metzger 240 Chris Mahaffey 241 John Jens 242 John Jens 243 Jan-Michael Souter 244 Andreas Kasper 245 Stuart Booth 246 Jan Melander 247 Brian Diefenderfer 248 Jon Gibbens 249 Tim Villa 250 Brian Vivier 251 Rick Atkinson 252 Steve Chenevey 253 Evan Thomson 254 Evan Thomson 255 Evan Thomson 256 Mike Stoner 257 Brandon Vaughn 258 Dobronte Gabor 259 Dobronte Gabor 260 David Thornton 261 Dan Licon 262 Ken Maupin 263 Eiji Hirai 264 Jun-Dai Bates 265 Jeff Windle 266 Jeff Windle 267 Jeff Windle 268 Jun-Dai Bates 269 Steve Balderrama 270 Wade Craig 271 Nick Pitfield 272 Dave Plotkin 273 Howard Wiener 274 Scott Cook 275 Mark Stahl 276 Siegfried Hanisch 277 Siegfried Hanisch 278 Siegfried Hanisch 279 Jeremy Murray 280 Jonathan Larkowski 281 Sylvain Jacques 282 Sylvain Jacques 283 Sylvain Jacques 284 Sylvain Jacques 285 Damian Allis 286 Mark Ruenes 287 Andrew Schiller 288 Joe Jurczyk 289 William Barry 290 Matt Mommaerts 291 Mark Stahl 292 Mark Contrady 293 Steffen Barabasch 294 Steffen Barabasch 295 Olaf Bode 296 Marcel Berkhout 297 Marcel Berkhout 298 Raquel Darrian 299 James Runde 300 James Runde 301 Ryan Redfern 302 Ke Xu 303 John Mastin 304 John Mastin 305 Mike Bradley 306 Christopher Onjian 307 Scott Jensen 308 Colin Housing 309 Chris Crowder 310 Craig Erskine 311 Curt Harman 312 Meghan Middleton 313 Evelyn Lauer 314 Richard Fraser 315 Mike Costic 316 Fernando Ma 317 Fernando Ma 318 John D'Alessandro 319 Mark D'Alessandro 320 Sean Haider 321 Adam Bertapelle 322 Bafu Vai 323 William Rollo 324 Kevin Johnson 325 Marko Ollila 326 Bill Engels 327 George Paradis 328 David Olson 329 Anton Max 330 Philip Jason 331 Jim Dove 332 Andrew Martin 333 Jacob Caminati 334 Dan Carlisle 335 Mike Stover 336 Richard Bradley 337 Pierre Dupree 338 Doug Merrell 339 Oliver Smith 340 Dana Boisvert 341 Bafu Vai 342 David Klem 343 Christopher Hailey 344 Jason Crowgey 345 Steve Mandamadiotis 346 James Grace 347 Andrew Miller 348 Robert Quezada 349 Chris Oates 350 Keith Aspinall 351 Paul Fini 352 George Szumski 353 George Szumski 354 Christopher Merlo 355 Bill Buckley 356 Bill Buckley 357 Eric Mauger 358 Brandon Padgett 359 Jimmy Hall 360 Andrew Keegan 361 Mario de Riso 362 Jonah Lin 363 Matt Kuehn 364 Jodi Lind 365 Shamus McConney 366 Darrell Bishop 367 Adam Forsyth 391 Charlie Farrell 392 Mats Rydstrom 400 Matt Pastor 405 Philip Jason 406 Joe Lukas 412 Keith Aspinall 420 Darren Brown 421 Darren Brown 424 David Swanston 427 Ryan Brown 441 Christopher Merlo 444 Jacob Caminati 450 Richard Karsmakers 451 Richard Karsmakers 475 Joe Losby 495 Stephane Auzilleau 496 Zach Gemmill 497 Zach Gemmill 498 Zach Gemmill 499 Zach Gemmill 500 Melissa Bentheusen When Dream and Today Unite If you see something that just isn't true, please let me know. :) -Mike Bahr, email_address_removed Magic: The Gathering - Why not use Dark Ritual for the Demonic Hordes? Illiterate? Write today for free help. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 23 Oct 95 21:02:11 PDT From: email_address_removed To: email_address_removed Subject: Losers Message-ID: Hello Jammers, I have been reading, but not participating in, the Ytsejam, and this is my first post to the Jam. First, A few words. While observing the incredible childishness and lack of tolerance some of the people on this list choose to exhibit, If I were a newcomer to the Jam I would say to myself: "Wow. I thought that the Jam was to talk about Dream Theater, not urinating on instruments. What if they start bashing on a band that I really like? Maybe I don't want to be on this kind of list." This is not to say I agree or disagree with the views of Ytsejammers. We are all different, like different bands, and obviously have wide and varied tastes in music. That, my friends, is the Spice Of Life. The freedom and ability to choose what we want to listen to, when we want, and where we want makes us who we are. Yes we all have at least one thing in common. We all salivate over DT. Some of us more that others. But the point I'm trying to make is that so what if one band says something derogatory or unfounded against another band. That kind of bashing has been, (and I'm sure will continue to), go on as long as people listen to different kinds of music. I admit it myself. I can't say how many times I've slammed Rap music, just because I don't like it. But I realized that I didn't really know that much about Rap. I had never listened to it. So, fellow Jammers, I implore you. Let's stop this band bashing. Nothing productive comes of it (except for some possible personal gratification, which you can easily do on your own time). As the Jam grows, so will the types of people who join the Ytsejam. Let's not alienate these newcomers (not to mention current Jammers who are fans of both DT and BM) before they see what a great DT resource we have at our disposal. 'Nuff preaching. Mike Bahr, thanks in advance for Acoustic Dreams. As I said to you personally, you are providing a great service to Dream Theater fans who just can't seem to get enough! Thanks for your eyes. On with the Jam! -William Rollo ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 24 Oct 1995 01:38:15 -0400 From: email_address_removed To: email_address_removed Subject: *****IMPORTANT***** Message-ID: Hey everyone, I had an idea. Some of you, like me, are getting sick of the Non-DT content here. Some of you (Like me) don't give a shit about anyone who would abuse drugs (Including Chris DeGarmo....I summon thee, flames) I think what we all have in common is that each has his or her own opinion. The jams are getting filled with silly things like Blind Melon articles from 17 years ago in a guitar magazine. Uh, here's my idea.... If you have someting IMPORTANT to say, mark the subject *****IMPORTANT******. That way, when we read the contents, we can see if there is a NEED to read the jam right away, or save that little nugget for a rainy day. I don't have time to be reading 63 ytsejam digests a day. I bet many of you agree. Wanna try this? Oh, and GET OVER IT. The Melon thing has passed. Hoon deserves NO SYMPATHY (in my humble opinion) and I refuse to listen to moral bullies that want to tell me how to react when an asshole dies. In my book, a quick way to make the ASSHOLE LIST is to di drugs. That he had a family, puts him right atop the list! Thanx Chris email_address_removed Oh, and here comes that inevitable blank waste of space. I'm still waiting for a fellow aol user to help me with this one. Until one does, I guess I waste more space. Sorry. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 23 Oct 1995 22:41:56 -0700 (PDT) From: "Randall W. Aquino" To: Dream Theater Subject: Opinions of death Message-ID: First of all I would like to comment on the comments of others: Hairball- Well I wouldn't agree with your bold comments 100%, but like you said everyone doesn't agree with eachother. Wouldn't the world be a bland and boring place if everyone agreed with eachother? I find myself not weeping about the death of the BM guy. But I am not happy he is dead. I am happy that their is one less person in the world promoting the drug scene. I DON'T HATE PEOPLE I HATE THEIR LIFESTYLES! But you made the comment of dieing being a good thing, because this world is so rotten. I can't agree with this at all. I love this life-why because this is the only one we will every have here on Earth! Just because the world is screwed up it doesn't have to effect you! Live your own life and have a blast. Drugs, crime, and sin can be avoided while have fun. I believe death is a thing to be fearful of. But I don't live my life in fear, because I know what lies ahead. I think that everyone getting on your case is a load of crap. This is America and we do have freedom of speech, so continue on with your comments. No one else has the balls to express what they really feel. Matt- I agree with you-If DT were to use drugs I would be right there with you kicking their asses and helping them get their lives straight. I can't see how anyone would be stupid enough to take drugs. It amazes me how damn stupid people in this world are. Also one last comment-Let us not forget the recent death of Jerry Garcia. He fits in with Cobain and Hoon also. He was a promoter of the drug scene and was an overall negative influece on people, especially the youth. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 23 Oct 1995 22:59:08 -0700 (MST) From: Michael Bahr To: email_address_removed Subject: Interesting Message-ID: Seems even the Man (John Petrucci) offers his word on the death of the lead Melon. I guess email_address_removed, real or not, must be his wife's account. I want to retract a bit of my first statement in response to that news... I should have waited a bit before offering my final review of BM's music. Putting it in the same post as his death sort of tarnished the moment. On to other things. You should see (or have seen) soon or shortly, a full CD update, the first in a while. Sorry about the delay there folks. Those single posts will from now on update you on all available CDs. Thanks to everyone who has helped make Acoustic Dreams a runaway success the likes of which even Subconscious dosen't compare! It's sold more CDs in less time than the others by a long shot. Enough Top 5 lists, please, folks. I liked 'em too, but they're like maggots. One is interesting, but a thousand will gnaw you to the bone. I got a chance to hear, and hope one day to possess a copy or perhaps release, the demo version fo Learning to Live. I never thought this song could be done more beautifully. The guitar solo after the Whooah Oooah Ohaaaaaaa! part is overlaid with a triple vocal harmony that brings tears to the eyes and reverberates the soul. I'm surprised they didn't put it in the final song. As of recently, the songs that stir within my mind are Eleven's "Why", Tori Amos' "Upside Down", Rush's "Making Memories", and Fates Warning's "Circles". Just something to check out if you like. Saw Seven as many Jammers recommended. Shit!! I thought I would have nightmares for sure, but I got lucky. Holy shit, that was one intensely disturbing movie. Definitely a keeper when the laserdisc is released in the spring. I hope Braveheart is out by then as well! :) I couldn't believe that ending... seemed almost unreal. The thing was, I remembered having to read all those books in high school and college, and didn't remember the maniacal appeal. Ah well. I plan on visiting Disneyland and Magic Mountain when I vacation to LA for the Portnoy shows in November. Anything I should know or see? Anything to avoid? Anyone want to come along? Dream Theater: Live at the Marquee had some outtake songs that I have managed to get copies of (thanks SA) and I think i will include on Antiquities, if there's no objection. They are UAGM and Ytsejam. Rush/DT/Disney parallel... I was watching The Little Mermaid on the old laser player the other day and the haunting melody that Ariel sings (the base melody to Part Of Your World, you know... ah-ah-ahhhh ah-ah-ahhhhhhh, ah-ah-ah-, ah-ah-a-a-aaaaaahhhh) Is from either a Rush or DT song, but I'm not sure which!! I don't think it was a case of ripping off or copying in either case, but that melody was like deja vu... I _totally_ remember hearing it in synth or guitar format. Something to look for, anyway. For those who haven't seen TLM yet, quit using excuses like "but I don't have a daughter" and just SEE it. It's a kick. It's also a case of good filmmaking... something rare these days. Nostalgia isn't what it used to be. Mike Bahr, email_address_removed ------------------------------ End of YTSEJAM Digest 1072 **************************