YTSEJAM Digest 1064 Today's Topics: 1) Whoops!! by Steve Borzilleri 2) PE, Women, and Religion by Steve Borzilleri 3) various by borlangw 4) Acoustic Dreams--Review by email_address_removed 5) Superior ! by email_address_removed.de (Ties Goebel) 6) DT on promo compilation CD! by email_address_removed.de (Ties Goebel) 7) (no subject) by Martin Auclair 8) Ct. Show!!! by "Scott L. Vanek" 9) Re: Same song titles/Different Artists by "Daniel James Temmesfeld" 10) Re: a possible thread by Benjamin Brizzell 11) The Spanish Bit in TTT by email_address_removed 12) Justice Finally>>three cheers for MARK METZGER by email_address_removed 13) Re: YTSEJAM digest 1061 by James Peele 14) Re: YTSEJAM digest 1062 by James Peele 15) Re: Mega-huge update time by email_address_removed (Chris White) 16) by J Wiseman 17) Dream Theater cover: YYZ? by email_address_removed 18) DT Grows on you by email_address_removed 19) Lifting Shadows on Acoustic Dreams. by email_address_removed 20) stuff by email_address_removed (Matt Palzewicz) 21) Rush list by email_address_removed (Bracken MacLeod) 22) operation revolution by Damon M. Fibraio 23) What is "OPERATION REVOLUTION?" by Paul Tullo 24) To Steve Zebrowski (NDTC) by Brian Wherry 25) Great IDEA>>>>MTV... also ozzy........ by email_address_removed 26) DT convention at El 'n Gee by email_address_removed (Michael Bradley) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Sat, 21 Oct 1995 04:02:49 -0700 (PDT) From: Steve Borzilleri To: Dream Thespians Subject: Whoops!! Message-ID: DANGIT!! I was so busy thinking of my five favorite postal workers to post to the jam that I did something stupid and I posted a section of YJ #1061. Geez, if it's not Blind Melon, it's another top five list... Bafu Vai ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 21 Oct 1995 04:46:36 -0700 (PDT) From: Steve Borzilleri To: Dream Thespians Subject: PE, Women, and Religion Message-ID: Ah yes, Public Enemy, women, and religion. I tell you, it doesn't get any better than this. ---------- To WildKoba: That's interesting, as I was about to post "Nation of Millions" by Public Enemy as one of the most influential albums of all time. I suppose "Fear" works too, though. Neat how someone else thinks PE is influential. ---------- To Anton Max: (Re: female musicians) I don't know why this is, but I have never met a female guitar player that could handle the instrument with intense dexterity. In fact, make that guitars of any sort, electric or acoustic. Cellos, yes, many. Violins, yes, many. But for some reason the in-between-sized neck of the guitar just doesn't seem to be a favorite amongst women. I don't know why this is, and I don't claim to, but it is what I have observed in the world of music and I'm baffled. Perhaps it's a she-thing. Ladies help me out if you agree. It ain't nothin' but a she-thang. I can bring home the bacon, fried inda pan, never lettin' you forget that you're a man, fa la la la la.... Oh, sorry, just listening to the radio... Back to my master theory, it could be that testosterone leads men to prefer harder music, seeing as how we're more "savage" than women and all that, so we would naturally be the ones to play electric guitars and more Neanderthalic instruments, whereas women would gravitate towards graceful, gentle orchestra strings. Yes, that theory makes so much sense, I think I'll forward it to the guy who said Kevin Moore has testicular cancer. In fact, I heard from a very reliable demigod that Myung receives his musical inspiration by having Portnoy drum on his back with carrots. ---------- To Randy Aquino: I've thought about DT's use of Christian references, and I've thought about how often bands quote any literary work. "The Silent Man" is (as was recently discovered) an obvious work based on the literature of "Arabian Nights," but I doubt that the song is about Petrucci's adventures with Aladdin and Sinbad. What does this mean? Well, the Bible is FULL of imagery and poetic verse that one could use in analogies or descriptive writing. Many bands quote the Bible, but that doesn't necessarily mean that the songs are about Christ. As for band religion, I have a view Guesses, but no Statements Of Fact, as I've never talked to any of them: Judging by their lyrics and interviews, I would guess that Petrucci and Myung prescribe to the more Eastern denominations of religion based on enlightenment/oneness/harmony. I don't think any of the members are devout Christians, or if they are they keep it to themselves. I don't suppose anything about LaBrie, Sherinian, or Portnoy, but Moore struck me as someone with a definite religious upbringing of some sort. Look at the style of shrouded vengeance prevelant in Moore's lyrics as opposed to Petrucci and Myung's raw neutrality. As for Dominici, who knows. ---------- Now for a strange question that occurred to me just this afternoon. Has anyone else heard Madonna's new song, "You'll See?" The writing, musically and lyrically, reminds me very much of Yngwie J. Malmsteen. I'm serious. Anyone notice the overall lyrical feeling of "I will have my revenge, I will crush you," (classic Malmsteen "revenge" lyrics) followed by minor key changes and moody orchestration? Neverming that Madonna is actually doing a song in a minor key, but this song really reminded me of Yngwie. So call me crazy. I'll only say "Yes?" Bafu Vai ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 21 Oct 1995 14:52:20 +0100 From: borlangw To: email_address_removed Subject: various Message-ID: I went to see Alanis Morissette last night. ALANIS IS GOD!!!!!!! I sincerely believe that God is a woman, and her adopted 'human' name is Alanis Morissette. Patricia wrote: > Sorry Graham, yes I did realise that you were in Scotland after > I posted the message. Next time I go to Europe, if you can get > to the south of England, then you can come along for free. I did > think of trying to organise a coach to Dusseldorf but getting > tickets was a problem. Patricia Can I really? Thanks!!!! :) I'm counting the days to 14th December. "Would you like to start this, Mr. Satriani?" (quote from Brian May). I think that testicular cancer can kill. It just killed a good family friend. First time I ever saw my dad cry :-( Graham B. ______________________________ ______________________________________ |o o| |o o| | Graham Borland |:: | email_address_removed.ac.uk |:: | Dept. of Computing Science |:: | http://www.dcs.gla.ac.uk/~borlangw |:: | Glasgow University |:: | +44 (0)141 357 4033 |:: |______________________________|:: |______________________________________|:: :::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::: :::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::: ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 20 Oct 1995 14:45:46 -0500 (CDT) From: email_address_removed To: email_address_removed Subject: Acoustic Dreams--Review Message-ID: ***THANK-YOU MIKE BAHR*** I've been a DT fan since mid 1991. A friend who knew I was into FW turned me on to them. I spent about a month looking for WDADU. Upon finding it, DT shot up into my top 3 favorite bands, and has remained since. Every time DT has played in Chicago, I've been there. I was in the third row of screaming fans when DT recorded the live footage for the Pull Me Under video. Acoustic Dreams is stunning. It is obviously a labor of love. The cover art is extremely professional (better than 99% of the "real" CDs out there). The audio quality and mastering couldn't be much better. Every track is incredible, but these are the ones that really made my year: Lifting Shadows--I wouldn't have thought that this would lend itself so well to an acoustic treatment. This is wonderful. Wait for Sleep--a different slant on one of my favorite DT melodies. I think this arrangement is better than the original. This is so good, it absolutely needed to be heard. Long Island Expressway--my perfect DT concert would consist of the band trying a bunch of new ideas. Like Bombay Vindaloo, this gives me some idea of how cool it would be. This is a great jam. Perfect Strangers--Maybe it has something to do with Bruce being there, but John P. gets a little sloppy and absolutely smokes on this version! Six O'Clock--This is hot! I don't really miss the samples. :) One small quibble...nobody would have minded if, instead of the poor audience recordings, the acoustic To Live Forever had been added as a bonus track. I would have paid twice as much for this. In fact, I'd love to give a few of these as Christmas gifts. Mike...any left? -- Pete Dziadzka (email_address_removed) ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 21 Oct 1995 14:25:02 +0100 (MET) From: email_address_removed.de (Ties Goebel) To: email_address_removed Subject: Superior ! Message-ID: Hi 'jammers! I'd like to turn your attention to a great melodic progressive metal band from the German underground: Superior. You may know one of their guitarists, fellow 'jammer Bernd (email_address_removed.de). They just released their first CD "Behind" and now hope to get a record deal. And if I owned a record company, I'd sign them ASAP. ;) There are nice piano parts in the songs -they have two keyboardists- , the singer is able to sing high, low, different moods,..., there are a lot of rhythm changes, and last but not least, Bernd really can play. Cool acoustic parts... I'm sure a lot of you 'jammers would like the album. :) The Cd also features great artwork and has a clear sound. I hope to read more opinions on Superior on the list, maybe from the people who helped Bernd with the lyrics. If you're interested in the CD, email Bernd. You won't be disappointed! Ties -- Ohne Musik waere das Leben ein Irrtum. (Nietzsche) ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 21 Oct 1995 14:31:12 +0100 (MET) From: email_address_removed.de (Ties Goebel) To: email_address_removed Subject: DT on promo compilation CD! Message-ID: With the latest issue of the German Metal Hammer magazine, I received a promo sampler CD from MCA records, "Proud To Be Loud". I was quite surprised to see that "A Fortune In Lies" is on it. It also features older songs from Alice Cooper, Meat Loaf, Scorpions, Gary Moore,... and is for promotion of the new "Proud To Be Loud" series of "classics and legends of rock music" including WDADU. And if someone cares, my current playlist: Superior: Behind - Shadow Gallery: Carved In Stone The Gathering: Mandylion - Savatage: Dead Winter Dead - DT: ACoS Ties -- Ohne Musik waere das Leben ein Irrtum. (Nietzsche) ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 21 Oct 95 15:34:37 0400 From: Martin Auclair To: email_address_removed Subject: (no subject) Message-ID: Will Dream Theater ever come to Montreal, Canada? I didn't hear of them in their latest world tour. We got lot of fans of the band here! Thanks in advance for your reply. Martin Auclair email_address_removed ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 21 Oct 1995 13:21:10 -0400 (EDT) From: "Scott L. Vanek" To: email_address_removed Subject: Ct. Show!!! Message-ID: Does anyone have directions to the El-N-Gee club coming from Hartford, Ct.? I would greatly appreciate it. While Im writing, here is my top 5. 1) Dream Theater 2) Queensryche 3) Savatage 4) Def Leapord 5) Type-o-Negative ****************************************************************************** Scott L. Vanek E-Mail Address: 251 D Building, L/L Center email_address_removed University Of Vermont **** Burlington, Vermont 05405-0384 (802)-656-6266 ****************************************************************************** ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 21 Oct 1995 13:26:00 -500 (EST) From: "Daniel James Temmesfeld" To: email_address_removed Subject: Re: Same song titles/Different Artists Message-ID: (Joe Kruger originally posted this *huge* list, and I had some artists added who did the following songs...) >Song Title Artist Name >---------------------------------------------------------------- >All or Nothing Ratt, Whitesnake ..don't forget the Milli Vanilli song by that name... (no, I don't have it!!! I've just heard it a while back...a long while...) >Changes Black Sabbath, Yes Tesla >Destiny Journey, MSG Petra >Friends Led Zeppelin, Eric Johnson, Joe Satriani Michael W Smith >Inside John Norum, Van Halen Whiteheart >Lady Luck Journey, David Lee Roth I think Tesla had one by that name (on TGRC album)... >Leave Me Alone Extreme, White Lion not another group, but I think it's kinda funny that Extreme also has a song "DON'T Leave Me Alone" [emphasis mine] on their "Stop The World" import single... >Little Girl Loverboy, Journey Extreme's got "Little Girls," but I guess that's not close enough... >Paradise MSG, Aldo Nova Again, I think Tesla has a song by that name (on TGRC album... I haven't listened to that in a long time...) >Someday Valentine, Aldo Nova Michael Sweet (ex-Stryper) >Surrender Y & T, Sammy Hagar, Trixter Stryper Well, these are my only additions to that huge list... Later, Dan Temmesfeld email_address_removed ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 21 Oct 1995 13:25:42 -0400 (EDT) From: Benjamin Brizzell To: email_address_removed Cc: Multiple recipients of list Subject: Re: a possible thread Message-ID: On Fri, 20 Oct 1995, tongue my shitter wrote: > > Why don't we name some songs that various artists have done in which the > song is the same name. I'd like to hear some other ones because as of > 1:35 a.m. right now, this is all I can think of. > > > ...Brandon > > I've got some: "Tough Guy" - Beastie Boys, Anachronism "Pump it Up" - Elvis Costello, Anachronism ------------------------------------------------------------------------ | Ben Brizzell | "People started to walk the land, | | e-mail address: | Countries rose out of the sand, | | email_address_removed | Races came to separate, | | Individual Studies | And then they found the need to hate" | | Sage Junior College | - "Stardust" | | of Albany | by Anachronism | ------------------------------------------------------------------------ ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 20 Oct 1995 15:41:04 -0500 (CDT) From: email_address_removed To: email_address_removed Subject: The Spanish Bit in TTT Message-ID: Anybody there? Hey-I noticed somebody wondered what the spanish phrase meant. Well, it means (or translates to, rather) I can see much clearer now I'm blind. Killer, huh? Andy.... ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 21 Oct 1995 13:30:23 -0400 From: email_address_removed To: email_address_removed Subject: Justice Finally>>three cheers for MARK METZGER Message-ID: --PART.BOUNDARY.0.13655.emout06.mail.aol.com.814296622 Content-ID: Content-type: text/plain --PART.BOUNDARY.0.13655.emout06.mail.aol.com.814296622 Content-ID: Content-type: text/plain; name="METZGER.TXT" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Are there any YTSEJAMMERS from the New London area who can suggest any p= lace that would be better ?? If an official meeting place is established, do= you think that it would be possible to let the band know that we would be th= ere en masse (hello, BABS). Maybe they could show up. Was thinking that we co= uld get together a group phone call to poor ol' Warren from Oregon and do a short sing-along with MP, et al. You know, to kind of lift his spirits/blood pressure. Hehehehe. I know, Warren, I know. What an asshole I am =2E........ = :-) = Later, Mark Metzger email_address_removed Sleep is great, but it's no substitute for caffeine =0D *************************************************************************= *************************** Gee Mark... guess all my whining finally paid off!! Super cool of you to= organize this!! When you are sure of the time etc. ( and I can calculate the time zone differences myself... east coast is 5 1/2 hours behind west coast) let me know and I will wait = by the phone. Be sure and ask all the band members when they will be delivering me the FanClub items too. I want to = be sure I am home when they get here. Since I am a guitar player it would= sure be nice to get one of JP's lesser used guitars too (hint, hint). Warren IN Oregon Warren with a phone Warren waiting for a special used 7-string guitar Warren with a friend like Mark...not an asshole; unless this is some kind= of cruel inhuman joke being played on me...but I am a great judge of character...so I know= that's not the case:) --PART.BOUNDARY.0.13655.emout06.mail.aol.com.814296622-- ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 21 Oct 1995 14:10:47 -0400 From: James Peele To: email_address_removed Cc: Multiple recipients of list Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 1061 Message-ID: What the hell? Some old posts of mine re-appeared in ytsejam 1061! Did this happen to anyone else? Wierd... Ken Bibb? Thanks, Jay Peele For info on INFERNO, E-mail: email_address_removed ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 21 Oct 1995 14:15:21 -0400 From: James Peele To: email_address_removed Cc: Multiple recipients of list Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 1062 Message-ID: Maiden died when Adrian Smith left... I don't know why it was at this time... "Seventh Son..." was their last good album... All IMHO... Jay Peele For info on INFERNO, E-mail: email_address_removed ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 21 Oct 95 14:12:51 EDT From: email_address_removed (Chris White) To: email_address_removed Subject: Re: Mega-huge update time Message-ID: Just curious if there are any more Acoustic Dream CD's left? If so, could you give me the address (price is $23 or $25?). Thanks :) Chris ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 21 Oct 1995 19:21:00 +0100 (BST) From: J Wiseman To: email_address_removed Message-ID: Help ! How Do I send a message to The Jam ? Jim The Destroyer Of Melons ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 21 Oct 1995 16:21:35 -0400 From: email_address_removed To: email_address_removed Subject: Dream Theater cover: YYZ? Message-ID: Hey everyone. Somewhere I heard that Dream theater did a cover of Rush's YYZ. Is this true? If so, is there anyway I could get a copy? Thanks, - DMC - +------------------------------------+ | "GREAT MEN HAVE OFTEN ENCOUNTERED | | VIOLENT OPPOSITION FROM MEDIOCRE | | MINDS" |==================+ | Albert Einstein | Daniel McCormack | +------------------------------------+ aka InSaNiTy | | | email_address_removed | | "THE WARHEADS WILL ALL RUST IN |==================+ | PEACE" | | Megadeth | +------------------------------------+ ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 21 Oct 1995 16:28:38 -0400 From: email_address_removed To: email_address_removed Subject: DT Grows on you Message-ID: I agree with Damon: DT's WDADU has to grow on you. But for me, however, it has been the same experience for all of their albums, incl. SubCon. My first DT album was I&W, and at first I didn't really like it, but my brother did, so he always made me put it on when we were in the car. I grew to love it. Then, when Awake came out, I got it with high hopes. When I heard it, however, I was disappointed. Later, however, a transcription of Lie appeared in GFTPM. When I looked at the solo, I HAD to go back and take another listen to the album. I found it awesome. Similar story with WDADU and SubCon, except I was expecting to not like them as much as the beginning. Well, wake up, I'm done. Later, ~DMC~ +------------------------------------+ | "GREAT MEN HAVE OFTEN ENCOUNTERED | | VIOLENT OPPOSITION FROM MEDIOCRE | | MINDS" |==================+ | Albert Einstein | Daniel McCormack | +------------------------------------+ aka InSaNiTy | | | email_address_removed | | "THE WARHEADS WILL ALL RUST IN |==================+ | PEACE" | | Megadeth | +------------------------------------+ ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 21 Oct 1995 14:59:18 -0400 From: email_address_removed To: email_address_removed Subject: Lifting Shadows on Acoustic Dreams. Message-ID: I think I like the AD version of Lifting Shadows more then the studio version. It seems to have a darker sound. Especially around the 1:00 mark. Oh yeah, and I have #141. But Mike Bahr, one of my CD cases was cracked when I got it. Not a big deal, just wanted to tell you. It took forever to get all the dust off the CDs when I got it out of the package. Just hit the 2:00 mark. Although the studio version is awesome, this version seems to capture the feel just as well as Im used to. I think Im going to listen to this version a lot more then awake. Overall, AD was well worth the wait, and I guess I got what I paid for. Dont get me wrong. I love it, just a little different then I expected in that there isnt as much sound as Im used to. I suppose thats what Bootlegs are for : ) Thanks a lot. Did you have to put Majesty on the thing because of copyrights or something? Ill be listening to this for a while. The only thing I dont like is the high acoustic guitar that starts Wait For Sleep. Too hard for even Petrucci to play cleanly. In a lower octave he would ace it, but not all the way up there. I love his use of harmonics in all the songs. Allright, later all. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 21 Oct 1995 13:12:51 -0500 From: email_address_removed (Matt Palzewicz) To: email_address_removed Subject: stuff Message-ID: Hello!! Just a few things.......... 1. Anyone ever hear of warbabies or armored saint??? 2. A couple jams ago, someone mentioned .wav files. I have a few dt, and many other others. i can also make .wav files if you are looking for a certain part of a certain song. 3. And, uh, thats it. later!!!! mathew email_address_removed ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 21 Oct 1995 13:25:16 -0600 (MDT) From: email_address_removed (Bracken MacLeod) To: email_address_removed Subject: Rush list Message-ID: Hey all, I'm interested in getting on the Rush mailing list also. Could someone please tell me how to subscribe? Thanks much. Slainte, Bracken "...Without music, life would be an error." Nietzsche -Twilight of the Idols- ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 21 Oct 95 15:39:40 EDT From: Damon M. Fibraio To: email_address_removed Subject: operation revolution Message-ID: Could somebody send me the post release from one of the jams about operation revolution. I am doing a speech on it for class and need it before Wednsday. Send the press release or whatever it is to: email_address_removed, not to the jam. Thanks in advance. Remember, before Wednsday. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 21 Oct 95 16:43:33 From: Paul Tullo To: email_address_removed Subject: What is "OPERATION REVOLUTION?" Message-ID: Could someone please fill me in on this "OPERATION: REVOLUTION?" I must have missed that in one of the previous 'Jams. thanx pawly "Whoaaa-oaa-oaa...hoaaa-hoaaa-hoaaa...hoaaa-hoaaa-HOAAAAAAAAA!" -Dream Theater "Learning to Live" ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 21 Oct 1995 16:36:00 -0400 (EDT) From: Brian Wherry To: DT List Subject: To Steve Zebrowski (NDTC) Message-ID: This message is in MIME format. The first part should be readable text, while the remaining parts are likely unreadable without MIME-aware tools. --PAA401536.814302286/acs4.bu.edu Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=US-ASCII Well, Steve, I've tried mailing you a few times, but it keeps getting bounced back to me! Anyway, thanks a lot for the plug on the ytsejam! Don't worry, though -- even if I never find a bass or keyboard player, you'll still hear more from me -- that's for certain!! And as for why I moved to Boston -- to form a band!! School really wasn't the main thing that brought me here. There you have it! Thanks again! Brian ps- It's , right? Hmmmm..... --PAA401536.814302286/acs4.bu.edu-- ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 21 Oct 95 17:30:35 EST From: email_address_removed To: email_address_removed Subject: Great IDEA>>>>MTV... also ozzy........ Message-ID: Hey. What a great idea about Operation (whatever)ehheeh.... I will write MTV at: email_address_removed to get Headbangers Ball on and to play more QR and DT!! ---------------------------can you believe on Oct 24th Midnight...in Kansas City (at Best Buy) Ozzy Ozborn will be at the Best Buy to sign autographs(if you purchase his album). He said he will be there and sign every autograph. Can you believe this? I bet thousands just might show up. see ya todd email_address_removed http://www.dreamt.org ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 21 Oct 1995 19:47:46 -0500 From: email_address_removed (Michael Bradley) To: email_address_removed Subject: DT convention at El 'n Gee Message-ID: Hey guys! A couple weeks ago, I asked if there was interest in a get-together of Ytsejammers in New London before the El 'n Gee show. I've made some calls and have an idea we should all discuss and try to finalize. Here goes. Where: We could all meet at the Dutch Tavern. A recent post said this place was like a TGI Friday's--maybe slightly seedier, but that's okay. Its address is 23 Green Street, which is supposed to be shouting distance from the El 'n Gee. The phone number is (860) 442-3453. When: 5 p.m. on Wednesday, December 27. Is this enough time to eat and chill before the show? I think so, but let me know. What to bring: Money for food(obviously) and wear your Ytsejam T-shirts if you have them. If not, other DT shirts would be fine, but we'll need these to identify each other, so leave your Blind Melon shirts at home, okay? To Mike Bahr (or anyone who can help): I know we talked about this before, but would it be possible to let the band or even just Mike Portnoy know that this is happening? It would be great to have them stop by. Okay guys, RSVP to me, or preferably on the jam, so we can all see this thing come together. Any suggestions would be great, but let's get this finalized relatively soon, because once Christmas gets near, a lot of us college students won't have access to the net. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ----------------------------------------- Gather ye rosebuds while ye may, old time is still a-flying; And this same flower that smiles today, tomorrow will be dying. --Robert Herrick, as quoted in Dream Theater's "A Change of Seasons." Mike Bradley ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ----------------------------------------- ------------------------------ End of YTSEJAM Digest 1064 **************************