YTSEJAM Digest 1047 Today's Topics: 1) Atomic Opera by email_address_removed 2) Acoustic Dreams & Other Multiple Topics by Michael Pomerleau 3) I saw Somebody's Joke by "R. Hailey" 4) Re: Favourite Bands by "Robert Quezada" 5) 1st post by Styles 6) JP's tech... by Erik Wolfe 7) Re: YJ #1037..DT endorsed LI Record store!!!!....& Malibu by email_address_removed (Carlo D'Angelo ) 8) Fav. bands again and again and again by tongue my shitter 9) Guitar equipment/crap by Jeff Chew 10) Re: YTSEJAM digest 1040 by Ytse' Jim 11) RYAN WHITAKER by email_address_removed 12) Re: Has Anyone noticed? by email_address_removed (Zack Gemmill) 13) Re: YTSEJAM digest 1039 by email_address_removed (Zack Gemmill) 14) Re: Has Anyone noticed? by SaVeur 15) guitar (bass) rigs by Rich ROchelle 16) YJ #1038-1042 by "S. Borzilleri" 17) Hopeless in Burlington by The Digital Man 18) I'm really pissed! by email_address_removed (Trey Allen) 19) Re: A few things by Damon M. Fibraio ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Wed, 18 Oct 1995 00:03:26 -0400 From: email_address_removed To: email_address_removed Subject: Atomic Opera Message-ID: I've heard a few people in the jam list atomic opera as one of their favorite bands. I had the opportunity to see them last year when they opened for Dio in Palo Alto, CA. This was the first time I had ever heard of them; they rocked big time! Ever since, I haven't been able to find any of their cd's anywhere. If anyone can tell me what's available by them & where I might be able to score a copy, I'd really appreciate it. DT content: I just ordered the Mind Control bootleg today. I cant' wait to get it. (im)patiently waiting for Acoustic Dreams. Scott Cook email_address_removed ------------------------------ Date: 18 Oct 95 00:02:50 EDT From: Michael Pomerleau To: Subject: Acoustic Dreams & Other Multiple Topics Message-ID: I FINALLY GOT IT . . . ACOUSTIC DREAMS!!! ------------------------------------------ It is GREAT!!! The Cover artwork is PHENOMINAL, sort of a foreshadowing of the music that you soon hear inside. Mike Bahr outdid himself. Heres My quick review(only listened to it twice). - Another Day - Beautiful...Very Different - Lifting Shadows off a dream - AWESOME!!! - Wait For Sleep - This is the Guitar/Bass version they did in concert. A MUST HAVE!!! - Silent Man - Not much different than the album. - L.I.E. - Wicked COOL! completely different than ANYTHING I could have expected - Tears - Similar to SUBCON Version - O Holy Night - Awesome, James Voice is INCREDIBLE on this...would love to hear a STUDIO Version with Electric Guitars...Similar to the SUBCON version with James Singing. - Perfect Strangers (w/Bruce Dickenson) - AWESOME, similar to ACOS, but Bruce has such a great voice(Not that James Doesn't). (Mike Bahr - I know Mike Portnoy get complementary copies of these CD's, but was wondering will Bruce Dickenson, I would be a shame for him if he did not have a copy of this.) - Six O Clock - Similiar to Awake...a little different sounding. - Caught In a Web - Same as 6:00 To Michael Bahr - GREAT JOB, when can I order WDATU??? Keep up the great work. Other Notes: For the record .... My other favorite Bands are; 1. Whitesnake 2. Stryper 3. Fates Warning 4. Steve Vai 5. Amy Grant 6. Barren Cross To those people who went to the Providence Rhode Island Show, Was I the only person who noticed that Dereks Solo contained a Keyboard Version of Van Halens Eruption, or was it just My imagination? Dereks Solo was awesome. In Jam #1027 Rick Wrote............. >He also played the right handed fingering for Chopins Etude #2. < What the hell is Etude #2? All my chopin CD's have etudes that reference key signatures (Etude in C Sharp Minor), or are named ("Revolutionary" Etude...My Favorite). Am I missing something? About the Burning Heart... Yes, It is a symbol Jesus Christ in the Catholic Religion. I once read an interview with Mike Portnoy in a Christian Heavy Metal Magazine called "Heavens Metal" in which he said Pull Me Under was a cross between the story of Hamlet and Jesus Christ. This fits in with line in the song "only until you will is done"... which refers to the christ said (at Gethsemenie??) "Not my will but yours be done father (paraphrased)". Also this fits in with the idea that the album cover has symbols from all the songs. The heart would represent Christ in the song pull me under. Connecticut Residents: For those of you in Connecticut....My friend said he found a record store that had a whole rack of DT Bootlegs... I am checking this out this weekend.. I'll let you know if I find anything. And Yes, I will be at the El-N-Gee on Dec 27, hopefully with about 5-15 people, that I have converted to DT fans. - Michael Pomerleau, Written 18-Oct-1995 @ 00:00:15 Using: Windows NavCIS PRO 1.62 ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 17 Oct 1995 21:59:09 -0700 (PDT) From: "R. Hailey" To: digest Subject: I saw Somebody's Joke Message-ID: and had to add some that I found: Q : What do you call a person who hangs around with musicians? A: A Drummer. Q: What did the drummer get on his I.Q. test? A: Drool. Q: How do you know if a stage is level? A: The drummer drools out both sides of his mouth. present company excluded for the most part :) also my five faves besides DT: Queen Rush Marty Friedman Garth Brooks Hellecasters many happy returns chris life is not tried l r.christopher hailey it is merely survived l if you're standing l email_address_removed outside the fire l __ _.. _. _ .. . -- garth brooks 'standing outside the fire' ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 18 Oct 1995 00:58:39 +0000 From: "Robert Quezada" To: email_address_removed Subject: Re: Favourite Bands Message-ID: > > Anyway, the new Iron Maiden album is absolutely crap. It is by far the worst CD I have ever > bought. And I'm a dedicated Maiden fan. I agree there. I couldn't stand that new singer of theirs or the music. Mine was sold to a used CD store within an hour of buying it. rq ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 18 Oct 1995 01:17:12 -0400 (EDT) From: Styles To: email_address_removed Subject: 1st post Message-ID: Hello all, this is my first time here, so please, be gentle! Here's (more) lists: (non-DT) Since I'm a drummer, we'll start there with; 1.) Buddy Rich - The most incredible trapsman ever born!! Jazz lives and it will forever. 2.) Neil Pert - For all who don't believe in re-incarnation, compare Neil and my first choice. I rest my case. 3.) Dave Weckle - (sp?) 4.) Steve Gadd 5.) Phil Collins - believe it! I saw him at a drum clinic once....DAMN!!! Well, I have another list since I'm also a keyboardist! (non-DT) 1.) Wolfgang Amadeus Mozart - 'nuff said! 2.) Billy Joel - The name that was given to Mozart when he returned to Earth a second time!! 3.) Keith Emerson - We're not worthy..! 4.) Kevin Moore - ...I'm too choked up to talk about it!! 5.) Geoff Downes - 10 points to anyone who knows who he is!!! Ryan, (a fellow jammer), and myself will be at the Birch Hill to see the boys in 2 months!!!!! So in an unrelated note, remember the version of "In the Flesh" on the second side of Floyd's "The Wall"..?? WELL>>> So ya, thought ya, might like to....go to the show. To feel the thrill of Rock-fusion, that Dream Theater glow. I've got, some bad news for you sunshine... Kevin's not well...he's left us in hell. They sent Derek along, as the surrogate man. We're gonna find out where DT fans really stand!!!!!!!!! Alright, enough band-width abuse! SEE YA!!! (Anxiously awaiting the show!) CYBER-STYLES ------------------------------ Date: 18 Oct 95 01:06:30 EDT From: Erik Wolfe To: "INTERNET:ytsejam@arastar.com" Subject: JP's tech... Message-ID: a fat guy? Possibly, but usually it's the same guy who builds his racks . I saw this in a British "Guitar Techniques" magazine. Ultra-cool issue, A-Z of Rock - D for Dream Theater. It had a full story on DT, a full transcription of "Under A Glass Moon" and the "Face The Rack" section had John's rack-builder Mark Snyder. When John's tech isn't with him, Mark will play tech. After all, he knows the equipment better than the "fat guy" tech. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 17 Oct 1995 22:29:39 -0700 From: email_address_removed (Carlo D'Angelo ) To: email_address_removed Subject: Re: YJ #1037..DT endorsed LI Record store!!!!....& Malibu Message-ID: Hey whats up Jammers, I read that someone in the NYC area is looking for a good CD store. I have searched all throughout Manhattan and LI and only one store has totally blown me away with its selection of rare CD's and imports (as well as posters, shirts, videos, novelty, etc.) The store is called: Slipped Disc 68 Rockaway Ave. Valley Stream, N.Y. 11580 (516) 872-0516 It is AMAZING. Totally blows away those other so-called import shops (yeah great..like I could possibly care about 200 different imports by Hole or Green Day!!)Anyhow, it is a really cool little shop in Valley Stream and I would DEFINITELY recommend making the trip from Manhattan (probably an hour if you take LIE to Cross Island or taking Belt to Southern State)..I live in Queens and with no traffic it takes me about 15-20 minutes. To give you an idea..the first time I went, I could not believe their selection and ended up charging around $200!!! Dream Theater thanks them on WDADU and so does SAVATAGE on "Hall of the Mountain King". It holds extreme value to me because last winter (think it was Feb or March??) as my friend and I walked through the door.....guess who is in there.... Mike Portnoy and his wife!!!!! I couldnt believe how calm I was..at first we just gave each other a look like..NAH..COULDNT BE HIM....we dont have that kind of luck! Then like some kind of secret service I'm trying to listen to what hes talking about and buying..I remember he was interested in some Frank Zappa stuff and a poster of Resovoir Dogs (AWESOME movie BTW!!).. Anyhow, instead of bothering him inside the nice warm cozy store, me and my friend (rocket scientists that we are) decide to wait till he finishes shopping and talk to him outside in frigid arctic weather..nice plan huh?? Well, Mike was real cool and talked with us for about 5-10 minutes..(talked about upcoming Fates tour, Mikkey Dee and Dean Castronova stuff, Malmsteen at Foundations, etc)..Bottom line was that he was a REAL nice guy and easy to talk to! The manager at Slipped told me he always comes by on vacation time and stuff. COOL!! LI RULES!!!!HEHE What was I talking about..oh yeah..if you want an awesome selection of hard to find CD's and other stuff go to Slipped Disc. I'll be at Malibu also..was there last time too with Echolyn opening!! Fellow Ytse Jammers just look for a guy with a grey Fates Warning shirt and a denim jacket with a HUGE portrait of EDDIE (of Iron Maiden) on the back! See you all there!!!! I hope my .SIG doesnt get all scrambled on other peoples servers...it took me long enough... Cheers, Carlo -- /\ "THE IVORY GATE OF DREAMS" /__\ /____\ /\ /__{}__\ /\ Enter ivory gates through midnight skies /**\/________\/**\ Daylight dreamers in private parades /__________________\ Perform before perpetual dawn | [] []| As dusk engulfs the gate of horn | [] [] | |] [] | Ivory towers appear beyond the gate | [] [] | Invisible fortresses of escape | [] [] | Traversed by ramparts made of hopes and fears | [] [| Impervoius to reality | [] [] | |] [] | | [] [] | A cold daze plagues the air | [] [] | Driven by aging winds |_______[]_________| The walls give way to the rush |//*//*//*//*//| and let reality in |/*//*//*//*//*| |*//*//*//*//*/| |//*//*//*//*//| //////// ////// /////////// ////// /////// |/*//*//*//*//*| // // // // // // |*//*//*//*//*/| ////// ////// // ////// /////// |//*//*//*//*//| // // // // // // |/*//*//*//*//*| // // // // ////// /////// // // ////// ////// // // // // // //////// // // // // // // /// // // /// // // // /// // ////// ////// // / // // // / // // //// // // // // // // // \\ // / // // // / // // // ///// ///// // // // \\ // /// // // /// //////// ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 18 Oct 1995 01:46:44 -0400 (EDT) From: tongue my shitter To: email_address_removed Cc: Multiple recipients of list Subject: Fav. bands again and again and again Message-ID: Favorite bands: Amy Grant, Mariah Carey, Whitney Houston, Green Day, and Dream Theater. Just kidding, well except for the last group. But can this thread please come to an end? Someone already mentioned that Rush, FW, ELP, etc. seem to be everyone's favorites. OK...now we know who the fav. bands are. I could be wrong about this, but didn't the person that started this thread ask us to email him privately on our favorite bands? Anyway, we might as well just stop this thread, because some new jammer in the months to come will want to know what our favorite bands are, and then we can start this thread all over again. ....Brandon ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 18 Oct 1995 01:47:49 -0400 (EDT) From: Jeff Chew To: email_address_removed Subject: Guitar equipment/crap Message-ID: Dear jammers, Hey there! Just wanted to jump in on the guitar equipment thread: Jackson Kelly Standard Deep Metallic Purple Yamaha Acoustic FG-411 Black (autographed by John Myung, Mike Portnoy, and Derek Sherinian in silver ink) Carmen acoustic (piece o crap, but I sort of like the sound it gives, my first guitar) Crate 30W amp (piece o crap, I need a new amp) ZOOM 9000 effects pedal (gives a pretty good sound) What I want for Christmas: Ibanez JPM100 John Petrucci custom guitar (hopefully my parents would think I was good this year!!) Well, that's my setup. What did you expect from someone who worked at Waldbaums for only $6/hr during high school? Yours, Jeff =) <<<==============---------------<<<<<<<>>>>>>>---------------==============>>> "You are sunlight and I, moon Jeff Chew is: joined by the gods of fortune email_address_removed midnight and high noon http://www.columbia.edu/~jc309 sharing the sky we have been blessed, you and I" <--- Kim from Miss Saigon <<<==============---------------<<<<<<<>>>>>>>---------------==============>>> ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 17 Oct 1995 22:34:53 -0400 (EDT) From: Ytse' Jim To: email_address_removed Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 1040 Message-ID: > Is Ticketmaster selling tickets for the show at the > Malibu (28th)? I browsed their web page and failed to find > any info. I do have the Malibu number that someone posted. > Can I get tickets over the phone directly, or should > we just chance getting tickets at the door? I might > be enlisting the help of some NYC 'jammers for directions > as I've never been to NYC, and we might be driving from > upstate, but I'm not sure yet... I think ticketmaster is selling the tickets (well,they sold them for the last DT show at malibu). I wouldn't chance buying tickets at the door. If they sell out, your sh*t out of luck. I do have an easy solution to this problem....how about CALL THEM!!! You HAVE the number..Dial it! oh yea, BTW, Malibu is NOT in NYC....it is on Long Island. Lido Beach. While I'm at it....might as well include my top 5 (everyone else has) Favorite Bands (besides DT) : 1) Faith No More 2) Alice Cooper 3) Metallica 4) Megadeth 5) Iron Maiden ::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::: :;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;: ; Ytse' Jim : "Seize the Day", I heard him say, ;: ; University of Hartford : Life will not always be this way, ;: ; email_address_removed : Look around, Hear the sounds, ;: ; email_address_removed :Cherish your life while you're still around ;: :;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;: ::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::: ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 17 Oct 1995 22:50:40 -0400 From: email_address_removed To: email_address_removed Subject: RYAN WHITAKER Message-ID: Ryan...there was some discussion a few months ago about how to pronounce Ytsejam....the difinitive answer comes from James LaBrie....during one of the live concerts, I think is was their Live in Japan Video , which I have..ha, ha, ha, sorry :( anyway, James pronounces it " yet-see-jam ". My top 5 favorites OTHER than D.T. Eric Johnson Satriani Dream Theater Dream Theater Dream Theater...so sue me!! ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 17 Oct 95 21:29:51 PDT From: email_address_removed (Zack Gemmill) To: email_address_removed Subject: Re: Has Anyone noticed? Message-ID: > Jammers, > > Has anyone noticed that many of the "new" threads that have been posted > are ones that have been covered in the past. > > Some things I guess just never die . . . These threads went on when there were a few hundred less of us, so I they're probably justified. > Hey if anyone out there knows what this Blind Mellon thing is (what > happened or the article it was mentioned in) could you post it. I am quit > curious as to how immature, uneducated, loser, power chord (fifth chord) > bands have to say when they feel threatened by real talent! And this is the perfect example of a rehashed thread. It was beaten to death when the article came out. > Ryan Zach ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 17 Oct 95 21:41:46 PDT From: email_address_removed (Zack Gemmill) To: email_address_removed Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 1039 Message-ID: > > *** Reply to note of 10/17/95 04:56 > MY GIRLFRIEND AND I JUST BROKE UP AND I CAN'T GET "Another Day" nor the > Subcon. .. "PLEASE DON'T GO!!!" OUT OF MY HEAD!!!!! HELP MEEEEEEEEEEEEEE!!!!!! > > -Steve Dude. It's cool. We're here for ya man. Put "Space Dye Vest" on repeat and wait for sleep. ZZZZ... (I actually played SDV over the phone for a friend whose boyfriend was being a real prick and dumping on her. I just played it and listened to her cry !>$> ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 18 Oct 1995 01:39:34 -0400 From: SaVeur To: email_address_removed Subject: Re: Has Anyone noticed? Message-ID: >Has anyone noticed that many of the "new" threads that have been posted >are ones that have been covered in the past. [...snip snip...] it's called the Law of Cycles. which is quite amusing since in the same post Ryan asks: >Hey if anyone out there knows what this Blind Mellon thing is (what [...snip...] which has been a thread at least 2 separate times since a year ago when i joined the 'Jam. my brain is fried...36 hours of C++ coding takes it's toll...and i haven't even finished... btw, echolyn's _as_the_world_ is amazing. saw 'em back in july and just got the money for the cd. anyone who's a fan of Queen, jazz/fusion and original songwriting/composing should check these guys out. very kool that they can pack so much into a song around 5 minutes long. outstanding. cout<<"later, folx\n"; j o h n j j e n s @ g m u . e d u e n s h t t p : / / w w w . s i t e . g m u . e d u / ~ j j e n s / ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 17 Oct 1995 22:46:47 -0700 (MST) From: Rich ROchelle To: Dream Theater Subject: guitar (bass) rigs Message-ID: Y'know, I've pretty much always liked to hear what other people play, if only to remind me that it's not only me who can't afford Mesa/Boogie amps and really expensive basses (say, like Wal, or Tobias, or Tung, or an electric upright). In any case, (whether it be bass or guitar- HA), I'm currently playing an Ibanez SR885(LE, I think- it's one of the older ones with the "LO-Z and HI-Z" pickups (which, due to their really low output for "active" pickups, in my opinion, suck)) through a Trace Elliot 7210HSM (200W 2x10" combo with horn). The Trace sounds beautiful in my opinion, but, just like CDs "show the limitations of the source tape", it shows the limitations of my bass. My dream bass is a Tobias Zebra wood 5 string. Since they run in the ballpark of $3000, it could be a really long time before I even can consider purchasing one. Eventually, I want to add a 15" to my rig to round out my tone. This could happen within my lifetime. (Yes!) Anyway, on with the jam! Rich "no sig" Rochelle ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 17 Oct 1995 23:04:17 -0700 (PDT) From: "S. Borzilleri" To: Dream Thespians Subject: YJ #1038-1042 Message-ID: Whoosh!! So many 'jams, so little time... ---------- What's my setup? Guitar: BC Rich American-Series Ironbird. Black. Amp: Crate G80XLS w/Celestion Speaker. Black. Effects: Digitech DSP-128. Silver. Yes, that's it. I've had this setup since January of 1992. The only other pieces I've owned are (1) a BC Rich Platinum-Series Virgin, and (2) a BOSS HM-2 (heavy metal) distortion pedal. The Virgin I sold, and the HM-2 I don't use anymore. ---------- What DT songs DON'T I like? Coincidentally, just like all the other lists flying around, I have five: 1. Status Seeker 2. Another Day 3. Surrounded 4. Erotomania 5. Space Dye Vest These are the songs that I find myself skipping over when I listen to the cds. So it's safe to assume that I just don't like these songs as much as the others. I must agree with Mike Portnoy when he gave the reason they changed the intro to "Status Seeker" for the live shows. For those of you who don't know, according to Mr. Portnoy it was "Fuckin' GAY." You know, it's always nice when a member of a band can be straightforward about why things happen. ---------- A Seattle Jammers Luncheon? Actually, the original e-mail I sent to Rahul Ananda was about a possible University of Washington 'Jammer meeting, but I guess the fellow wanted to move it to a larger scale. Well, someone want to suggest a meeting time and place? In fact, let me one-up you, Rahul. Wanna make it a Washington State sort of happening? Wanna do a Ytsecon on a micro-level? Are there any Northwest 'Jammers that would like this sort of occurance to occur? ---------- Who did I leave off my list of honorable mentions? Eric Johnson. ---------- Who stole the cookie from the cookie jar? AIRDANCE!!! ---------- To WildKoba: You have Steve Vai listed as "4a" beneath Joe Satriani "4." I disagree with the statement "they might as well go together." In my opinion Vai is much more of a musical acrobat than Satriani. They both exhibit immense control, and this is one of their common trademarks, but to my ears Vai is a great deal more aggressive and insane than Satch. You know, those two have always reminded me of Luke Skywalker and Obi Wan Kenobi in more ways than one. (...or would that be Darth Vader and The Emperor?) Bafu Vai p.s. are there any tennis fanatics on the 'jam? ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 18 Oct 1995 02:43:23 -0400 (EDT) From: The Digital Man To: Ytse Jam Subject: Hopeless in Burlington Message-ID: Man, I'm gonna kill. I mean it. First of all, this bonehead Dan Reeves forgets how to coach an NFL team. Then, this moron DJ on Burlington's WIZN totally screws up my request. I found out that this guy is from LI, as am I. So, I'm in, right? Wrong! I call up and say, "Hey, Dave! Hey, this is Chris. I'm a student at UVM, but I heard that you're from the Island." "Yeah," he says, "I used to work for WRCN." "No shit! That's the station that gave my band our first airplay," I tell him. "Anyways, I was hoping that you could play some hometown boys for me." "Zebra?" No, science rocketist. "Actually, I was thinking about Dream Theater." "Oh, they're cool. I'll get some on." So, at this point, I'm stoked. Good things about LI, good things about his former employer, good things about DT. Then I push my luck. "You know, Dave, I haven't heard anything from Satch's new album. Think you could get some of that on as well?" "Oh, yeah. That's a great album. Yada yada yada." So what happens? I wait up for half a fucking hour to hear "Satch Boogie, going out to Chris at UVM, who's from New York!" Dick. I hate stupid people. Anyway, violently grinding gears, I forget who it was that wrote about anti-ex-girlfriend-depression tunes, but I've got a couple of killers. First, try some Rush. It'll get you thinking about everything but her! Then, if that don't work, pop in VH's _5150_ and play the song "Get Up." If that doesn't pick your spirits up, then just stay in bed for a week, 'cause you're dangerous. -Chris *************************************************************** * Christopher R. Merlo |8^)= * * The University of Vermont, 211 Jeanne Mance Hall * * Burlington, VT 05405 U.S.A. * * * * Reality is just a crutch * * for people that can't handle alcohol. * *************************************************************** ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 18 Oct 95 02:45:43 -0400 From: email_address_removed (Trey Allen) To: email_address_removed Subject: I'm really pissed! Message-ID: Okay guys I'm really pissed off! 1) I'm pissed off because I don't ever know about these clincs (John P and M Portnoy)!!! I am a devout DT follower and I want to be informed about this stuff. Next time one of you goes to a clinic, please find out as many other places an dates as you can. 2) I am pissed off because of all this talk of DT going to NJ or Long Island. I don't even know where the hell Long Island is... I just know its too far for me to drive to. 3) I'm pissed off because I'm so broke I have to suffer by listening to all you guys talk about AD and me over here in Jacksonville Fl having to take out a lone to pay for a speeding ticket. 4) I'm pissed off because I go out of town for a long weekend and being forced, because of my dedication (and addiction) to DT, I spend two hours, when I should be studying, reading 13 back jams! 5) I'm pissed because of Eudora not downloading large messages (it does this to about 30% of my jams.) Any suggestions out there? 6) I'm pissed cause, because of this I try out a different mail software and lose 4 jams! 7) I'm pissed because I dont have a "Mercy fuck" to make me feel better! :( :( :-( Mike may not need it, but I need your sympathy to get me through the day! 8) --(Trey to Ytsejam members)-- Sorry to wine guys, I just needed to get that out of me. You guys mean so much to me. (sniff) I just feel like we're a family and (sniff) and I can share anything with you all. (sniff sniff) You guys have become such a special (INTERUPTED) ---(you guys to Trey)--- NO TREY YOU CAN"T HAVE OUR COPY OF ACOUSTIC DREAMS! ---(Trey to Rush mailing list)--- Guys, you just are such a great bunch of people. I feel that we have just bonded so much in these... ____________________________________________________________________________ "...Every day there's a constant reminder of all the pleasures we shared together. Love is not just a passing word, it's a state of heart that goes on forever..." (Mike Portnoy of Dream Theater) Trey Allen - email_address_removed - http://junix.ju.edu/UsrWebPages/tallen/home.html _____________________________________________________________________________ ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 18 Oct 95 2:51:45 EDT From: Damon M. Fibraio To: email_address_removed Subject: Re: A few things Message-ID: I have one question. Who invented punk rock? You know, that talentless form of music played by people who can't even tune their guitars? I swear, I hear songs played by bands who don't know how to turn the tuning pegs on their guitars. To punk rockers, soloing is cranking up the volume until you feed back. All those punk rock songs sound the same. Lifeless three-chord crap songs with no skill, no technical ability, no creativity, no talent. the vocalists can't even sing, hell they can't even scream. the drummer is lucky that they can keep a basic beat. And they don't even use keyboard players, and thank God for that because we are too good for that stuff. Besides, keyboard players make their own form of bullshit called techno, another form of music that lacks talent, except when they are sampling other artists music. Now for the question: why is techno and punk held in such high regard while progressive rock, which displays infinite amounts of talent and technique, gets bashed constantly. In classical and Jazz music, great musicians are held in hgih regard. In rock, we ar trashed. It's bullshit. We don't put all this time into our instruments to have some lesser forms of musical life say that we suck. Blind lemon should be hung. Fuck them, they don't deserve the fame they have. I have been playing a keyboard for 17 years, and I am not even close to a Kevin or a Derek, but I am always improving and have the drive to improve, unlike the Blind Lemon bastards. I feel sometimes like I have wasted my time training myself when all it's going to get me is frustrated. The listening public is mostly made up ofc ignorant idiots who can't open their minds to anything unless it sounds something like NIrvana, (don't get me started on that waste of time). Oh, well, I've ranted enough. Go ahead. Flame me. I DEAR YOU. FLAME AWAY. I AM READY, DAMN IT. Here, have my email address. email_address_removed. flame me, you'll be sorry. Ytsejammers rule. ------------------------------ End of YTSEJAM Digest 1047 **************************