YTSEJAM Digest 1040 Today's Topics: 1) misc. thoughts by email_address_removed 2) Cassandra is Fleeting! by Ryan J Benedict 3) A few questions.. by email_address_removed (godfather) 4) El-N-Gee & 5 fave bands by email_address_removed 5) Fave musicians by Fernando Ma 6) Much Music by email_address_removed (Lars Hellsten) 7) Other Groups/Blind Suckus/DT NYC Shows/To Mike B./USPS by email_address_removed (Zack Gemmill) 8) eric johnson by email_address_removed (Jerry George) 9) Current Listening Favs by Michael Backof 10) ACOS Tablature project by Jeffrey Swing 11) 5 fave... by John Yuan 12) The BM incident by email_address_removed 13) Kitaro by Brian Wherry 14) guitarists by email_address_removed 15) top-5 non-DT poll by email_address_removed.fi (Antti Nyrhinen) 16) Yet another top 5 by email_address_removed (James Garrett) 17) Favourite Bands by borlangw 18) Guitar set up.. sorta ;) by email_address_removed 19) My top 5's by Ramin Miraftabi ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Tue, 17 Oct 1995 00:59:48 -0400 From: email_address_removed To: email_address_removed Subject: misc. thoughts Message-ID: In ytsejam 1037, Edd Ballinger asked about a DT comp. You're right, :75 is NOT enough time. I made a compilation tape to listen to in the car. It had to be a :110. Any shorter length was too short. Track listing as follows. side one: side two the ytse jam under a glass moon afterlife 6:00 take the time Surrounded (marquee cd) (demo version on silent man single) the mirror to live forever (tokyo vid) lie (my favorite JP solo) a change of seasons (1995 ep) a fortune in lies (tokyo vid) (I don't have the subcon version yet, so this pull me under might change) metropolis pt. I wait for sleep I worked on the length of the tape for over an hour, and I couldn't get it any shorter than this. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ ------------------------------------------------- Someone said something about operation mindcrime as the concept album of the 90's, Since this record/cd was released in 1988, I don't know if it would qualify as a 90's record. Although, as for the 80's, it definitely ranks as one of if not the best. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ ------------------------------------------------- My top 5 not DT bands at the moment are (no particular order) Queen (will always rule!) Frank Zappa (proves you don't have to sell out to be sucessful) Primus (see Frank Zappa) Dread Zeppelin (tortelvis IS the king) UFO (Schenker shreds) Scott Cook for my audio and/or video tape trade list, email me email_address_removed ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 16 Oct 1995 15:14:16 (CDT) From: Ryan J Benedict To: email_address_removed Subject: Cassandra is Fleeting! Message-ID: *This is in answer to the question "Who is Cassandra?" James Garrett, excellent comment: <> Lisa Gaunt, don't feel silly--this is where I got my post from! << I feel kind of silly using my first post on the 'Jam to discuss Cassandra, but hey, I'm an English major with a soft spot for Greek and Roman writings and Virgil in particular. :) So, anyway, I remember Cassandra from the first part of _The Oresteia_: Agamemnon, by Aeschylus.>> I posted something on this topic many months ago (I think I am the post that everyone has been referring to--the one that was mentioned before). I am a Classics major, so I love these kind of topics. Here is the original post of mine: <> I was wondering if anyone was going to ask this question! There was a thread just recently going around about the interpretation of A Mind Beside Itself. I have heard the name Cassandra before, so I looked it up. I came up with something very interesting, but I just never really got around to it. Now that someone has asked, I will tell all you Y-Jammers what I have found. Cassandra is the name of a "slave" girl that Agamemnon (ancient Greek literature) brought back from the Trojan War. I read this story called the Oresteria by Aeschylus. It is the story of the return, betrayal, and death of Agamemnon. The story continues with the death of Clytaemnestra and Aegisthus by the hand of Orestes. He killed them for their deceitfulness and murder of his father, Agamemnon. The story continues on, but . . . Anyway, Cassandra is able to see the future because it is said that Apollo "lives" inside her. So she is able to see both the near death of Agamemnon and herself. She goes in to try and warn Agamemnon, but is killed by either Clytaemnestra or Aegisthus (it is unclear in the book). These are the lines in the book that Cassandra gives before she dies. (talking to a leader who is trying to get her to flee from her own death) Cassandra: No escape, my friends, not now. Leader: But the last hour should be savored. ****Cassandra: My time has come. Little to gain from flight. Leader: You're brave, believe me, full of a gallant heart. Cassandra: Only the wretched go with praise like that. Cassandra was going to stay and try to save Agamemnon when no one else would--even at the cost of her own life. What does this mean for the song? Someone during this thread gave the idea that it was about someone trying to deal with another lover beside his WIFE. (Sorry I don't remember who this was.) I think it has something to deal with a crises in the mind of someone. I think it is interesting. In the beginning of the song it is ". . . HE used to say to me . . ." Then the song goes on a few lines later, ". . . SHE used to say to me . . ." I think this person with the old thread may have been correct. There is a love [marriage] of these two people. However, the man in the relationship is either 1) having an affair 2) thinking of having an affair 3) going to leave his wife 4) or is contemplating killing his wife or 5) a combination of any of these. The rest of the song is his trying to decide what to do--thinking in his mind. However, it is driving him crazy--the pick up in the feeling of the song coincides. Know when he says "Maybe I'm just Cassandra fleeting" he thinks that he is going run from the death of his wife (maybe it even was that he had someone try to kill his lover and now what he had done is driving him crazy). All he wants is his sanity back. I think that in the end he finds out that he must decide himself--he is on his own. He knows there is no one--no "Messiah" to help him. The fade into The Silent Man is the continuation of his thoughts. Now he has come either to a decision or has completely lost his mind. What does The Silent Man mean? I'm not sure. I think the man just decides to wallow in his own actions and misery. Well, I hope this answered your question--and then some. Sorry for the length, but I just started and just kept on going. But it was interesting--RIGHT? Thanks for stickin' around! Later, Nypsie P.S. I wonder if John is even into ancient Greek/Roman Literature?>> Thanks for the time, and sorry for the length. Ryan--Nypsie ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 16 Oct 1995 16:01:11 -0700 (PDT) From: email_address_removed (godfather) To: email_address_removed Subject: A few questions.. Message-ID: A couple questions.. 1) Which is better, _Lost in the Sky_ or _The Dance of Eternity_, as far quality goes? 2) I've seen this question posed before but don't recall a response.. How do you pronounce 'ytsejam'? I find myself saying y-t-s-e-jam, because, the way it looks like it'd be pronounced 'itseejam' or 'itsuhjam' and both of those sound pretty gay. Anyways, I have Acoustic Dreams disc #195 reserved and still haven't received it. I feel sorry for you guys in the 400's.. :) Ryan Whitaker email_address_removed ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 16 Oct 1995 21:21:57 -0400 (EDT) From: email_address_removed To: email_address_removed Subject: El-N-Gee & 5 fave bands Message-ID: > I just got tickets to see Dream Theater at the El N' GEE club in Groton, Ct. > on Dec. 27. Tickets are available through strawberries for 11.50 each. > I called the club itself and i guess they are $15 at the door. Hey, what's the deal with this? A previous post said that we should send $10 to "Mike" at El-N-Gee and he'd send us the tickets. Is that still the case or do we have to go through Strawberrie's? Anybody know? Either way, I'll be there! And I'd also be interested in meeting with fellow 'jammers beforehand. I live in Mass., so pick a meeting place that's somewhat easy to find (I know Northern CT real well, but I'll get lost below Hartford!) ----------------------------------------------- My favorite non-DT bands: (No particular order after Queensryche) 1. Queensryche 2. Fates Warning 3. Savatage 4. Mindfunk (any other fans out there?) 5. Galactic Cowboys Honorable mentions: Marillion, Drown, Journey, Helloween Jodi ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 16 Oct 1995 16:31:40 -0700 (MST) From: Fernando Ma To: Ytsejam List Subject: Fave musicians Message-ID: My fave guitarists are: John Dimebag Darrel Jacob Holodynski (from my band :) Vernon Reid Adam Jones (TOOL, very emotional) Since I'm a bass player, I might as well add fave bassists: John Michael Manring Victor Wooten John Pattitucci Les Claypool ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Fernando Ma email_address_removed http://bigdog.engr.arizona.edu/~ma ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- "Now it's time for them to deal with me..."-Dream Theater ------------------------------ Date: 16 Oct 95 18:24:32 -0400 From: email_address_removed (Lars Hellsten) To: email_address_removed Subject: Much Music Message-ID: To all you Canadian ytse-jammers: Send in requests to the Power 30 for Dream Theater! Their e-mail address is "email_address_removed". This is easy, if we flood them with enough requests, they'll HAVE to play at least SOME Dream Theater (maybe even on a semi-regular basis)! Send multiple requests! They DO read them all, I've sent 2 requests in the past (with some additional critisism for not playing good, talented bands), and they've replied to both of them. Heck, even if you're in the US and don't get Much Music, e-mail them anyway, pretending you do. Say where you're from too, and give a little information about yourself - they want that (to give Teresa Roncon something to actually read, I guess), and the chances are better that they'll be more likely play requests from someone outside of Canada so they can brag about how many US vieweres they have (well, it's possible anyway). I've seen them play Lie twice in the past half a year or so, and even managed to catch PMU, but that's it. I suppose the TSM video (if they'd have it) wouldn't exactly be Power 30 material, nor would "Another Day" I guess, but bug them to play TTT or CiAW ... even though the edited versions of TTT, PMU, and even Lie (without that amazing second solo) suck compared to the full length versions (I think PMU really loses it's effect without that long intro, especially since the intro to PMU was the first DT song I heard, and that was what really got me hooked), that's the only way we can popularize DT up here! And believe me, DT is apparantly not that popular here! I've gone into several music stores and checked their top x charts, and not seen ACOS on there at all, whereas other jammers have seen it as high as 5. I suppose it all depends on what store you go to. (Oh, BTW, to any other Toronto 'jammers: if any you have a white "Awake" t-shirt, go to U of T Scarborough campus, and take the York Mills bus in the morning, please e-mail me, 'cause I saw you, but was getting off the bus at the time and was late as it is, so didn't have time to stop and say anything - it's the first time I've seen anyone with a DT shirt though, other than at the Queensryche show) -- |Fidonet: Lars Hellsten 1:259/412 |Internet: email_address_removed ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 16 Oct 95 20:47:19 PDT From: email_address_removed (Zack Gemmill) To: email_address_removed Subject: Other Groups/Blind Suckus/DT NYC Shows/To Mike B./USPS Message-ID: Okay: 1) Rush 2) Metallica 3) Fates Warning 4) Queensryche 5) Scorpions (at least they used to be...) 6) too much stuff to list. (btw, *do* check out Cynic, if you can get past the death-metal vocals, which I don't think are all that bad because they fit in with the music well). Blind Melon: The transcript of this part of this interview is on Dr. Mosh's DT page. I'm not sure if anyone else has it, too. I'm sure that someone will get tired of the inquiries and will be posting it soon !>)> As much as I hate to admit it, I like the single off their new album. If I see it used, I might just give it a listen (I never thought I'd be saying this !>|> NYC Shows: Is Ticketmaster selling tickets for the show at the Malibu (28th)? I browsed their web page and failed to find any info. I do have the Malibu number that someone posted. Can I get tickets over the phone directly, or should we just chance getting tickets at the door? I might be enlisting the help of some NYC 'jammers for directions as I've never been to NYC, and we might be driving from upstate, but I'm not sure yet... Mike Bahr: What the hell? Quit your band for a week or so! We can't be the only ones coming out from the left side of the country for the Dec. shows! In other news, has anyone been getting high # AD CDs yet? Mine are 497-500, unfortunately !>(> If I can send a measily 1st-class letter from a backwater town in the mountains of CA to Mike Backof in MD *in one business day* (yes, true story lads and lasses), why can't the USPS get on the ball for a few packages? *arrghhh* I think we all should quit our jobs and apply at the Post Office. When those in school graduate, we can hire them too and promote everybody (hell, it works like that in Corporate America). Our collective IQ, I'm sure, is a lot higher than theirs. Zach (who has enough guns for everybody---heh, heh, heh) (I'm not psycho, really !>)> (heh) ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 16 Oct 1995 23:11:28 -0500 From: email_address_removed (Jerry George) To: email_address_removed Subject: eric johnson Message-ID: Frank Moratta posted the following: >Other than DT: >1)Stevie Ray Vaughn >2)Kings X (as if you didn't guess) >3)Blues Saraceno >4)Living Color >5)Joe Satriani >6)Eric Johnson (where the hell is he? anybody know??) >7)Robben Ford >8)Extreme >9)Megadeth (well, Marty Friedman actually) >10)Ronnie Earl and the Broadcasters You wanna know about Eric Johnson? Well, he is usually touring. He has a very busy schedule. He was working on an album for the last two years but due to disputes with the record label, it will never be released. Seems they wanted him to release it and he didn't have it "perfected" yet. So they dropped his contract. I don't know if he plans on trying to get another contract. Last I heard he was pretty upset about the whole deal and swore off the record making. He is still making new songs but looks as if the only way you will ever hear them is if you go and see him in concert. Who knows, maybe he will open his own recording company. Wouldn't be the first time an artist did that. Jerry --------------------------------------------------------------------------- Wishing ALL bands could be as good as Dream Theater, Rush, Queensryche, Pink Floyd and Saga! Yeah, I know....DREAM ON!! --------------------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 17 Oct 1995 00:34:51 -0400 (EDT) From: Michael Backof To: email_address_removed Subject: Current Listening Favs Message-ID: Hello Jammers, What the heck, I'll respond... Prog-Metal ---------- Group Album ------ ----- 1. Angra Angels Cry 2. Shadow Gallery Carved in Stone 3. Inferno Architect 4. Threshold Livedelica 5. Ivanhoe Symbols of Time Prog-Rock -------- Group Album ----- ----- 1. Saga Generation 13 2. Marillion Brave / Clutching at Straws 3. Yes Tales from Topographic Oceans 4. Phish A Live One 5. King Crimson The Great Deceiver / B'Boom 6. Mastermind Tragic Symphony 7. Iluvatar Children 8. echolyn As the World / ...and Every Blossom and others ----------- Group Album ----- ----- 1. Tori Amos B-Sides Collection (some tape a guy made for me) 2. Tony Levin World Diary (some nice world sounds) 3. Scorpions Greatest Hits 4. Prog-Metal Tape One that I made from demo tapes I have 5. Extreme 3 Sides to Every Story 6. King's X Gretchen Goes to Nebraska ........etc..... Later, Mike email_address_removed ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 17 Oct 1995 00:53:13 -0400 (EDT) From: Jeffrey Swing To: email_address_removed Subject: ACOS Tablature project Message-ID: Fellow Jammers, I've heard a lot about this ACOS guitar tablature project. I think it's cool that there is a group of jammers that are willing to take the time (no pun intended) to sit down and trancribe a musical piece of this power. I'm interested in creating a corresponding tab "book" for us basses. I've noticed that the DT tablatures on the net exclude other's and my favorite instrument. I propose that a group of bassists (bassers?) get together and put down some nice tabs, breaking it up into sections like the guitarists have been doing. I know that John Myung uses a 6-string bass now, and I only have a 4-string, so anybody with 5 or 6 string bass that could help would be greatly appreciated. I'm not as good as I'd like to be at transcribing. I'm working on "Crimson Sunrise" right now. When I get a substantial part of it done, I'd like some people to look through it. So if there are any bass players out there that are interested, please e-mail me or reply here on the ytse-jam. -Jeff -- Jeffrey Swing (the "Swingman") "To defy the laws of tradition, University of Rochester Is a crusade only of the brave" e-mail: email_address_removed -Les Claypool phone: (not for the general public) ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 17 Oct 1995 01:12:06 -0400 (EDT) From: John Yuan To: email_address_removed Subject: 5 fave... Message-ID: HEy all... "first time caller".... i'm glad that I'm finally getting ytsejam. However, the last few issues I got seems to be screwing up my terminal typeset - it switches from vt100 to some unknown... anybody out there know why????? As for 5 fave groups (besides DT)... 1.) Rush 2.) Living Colour 3.) Kings X 4.) Kansas (old, not new) 5.) Alice In Chains And as for guitarists, well (in no order here) -Jerry Cantrell -Joe Satriani -John Petrucci -Vernon Reid -Eddie Van Halen But, you know, Dream Theater is talented EVERYWHERE. How about some candidates for other musicians? For example, on bass... -Les Claypool -Geddy Lee -John Myung (of course) -John Pattiucci (sp?) -Victor Wooten How about percussion? -Bill Bruford -William Calhoun -Neal Peart -Mike Portnoy (duh) -Dave Weckl Admittedly, keys aren't as broad a subject, but there is serious talent to be found... -Chick Corea -Bruce Hornsby (he can play, folks) -Keith Emerson -Kevin Moore -Rick Wakeman I know, I know, where is Derek... well, until I hear him eitehr play or write with DT, I will reserve judgement. He does a good job on ACOS, but that stuff was written by Kevin, n'est pas? AS for vocals... You know, I don't really listen to music for "vocals" Yes, I love LaBrie's voice. I also like the vocals of Corey Glover, Layne Stayley, and Jon Anderson. But, outside of that... One more thing... would anyone know where I can get my hands on written music and/or tab for Space Dye Vest? I love that song! Thanks! John Yuan E-mail:email_address_removed "And if I claim to be a wise man, it surely means that I don't know..." -Kansas, "Carry On Wayward Son" -*-- -*-- --** -*-- -*-- --** -*-- -*-- --** -*-- -*-- --** -*-- -*-- --** ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 17 Oct 1995 02:31:15 -0400 From: email_address_removed To: email_address_removed Subject: The BM incident Message-ID: On oct. 7, I saw Page/Plant show in Mountain View, CA. Excellent show! Much better than the 5/20 San Jose show. They played only Led Zeppelin songs, no covers or solo stuff whatsoever. The reason I bring it up is because Blind Melon opened up. I haven't seen such a shitty band since I saw David Lee Roth in July 94. These guys aren't even good enough to listen to DT, let alone judge their music. Did you ever notice Blnd Melon and Bowel Movement have the seme initials. Just a coincidence? You be the judge. Speaking of DT, am I the only that thinks that James' voice sounds a little like the singer in Stryper: Michael Sweet? I'm not saying they're an identical match; but I do think there's a definite similarity. These are just my opinions. They are not gospel. Opposing views are welcomed, flames are not. Take Care Scott Cook The boys in the crew have got a present for you - Frank Zappa ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 17 Oct 1995 01:40:52 -0400 (EDT) From: Brian Wherry To: DT List Subject: Kitaro Message-ID: Attention Boston area ytsejammers: KITARO is playing at Symphony Hall on Thursday, Oct. 19th!! Anyone interested? Skadz? Buck? Marc? Brent? Allen? Unfortunately, I have recently dipped way into the BayBank reserve credit and find myself wondering how the hell I'm going to pay it off, let alone shell out some more cash to see a show (even if it's Kitaro). Top five non-DT bands: Pantera (BALLS!) Fates Steve Morse Band Rush Testament (back when they had Alex, anyway) That thing with "Rage against the damn machine head" (or something like that) was friggin' hilarious! (I liked it, anyway...) Allright -- enough with meaningless post #213!! Later, 'jammers! Brian "I was supposed to use a container?" -Beavis ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 17 Oct 1995 03:20:40 -0400 From: email_address_removed To: email_address_removed Cc: email_address_removed Subject: guitarists Message-ID: ok...i posted my fave bands a few days or so ago, but now we're talking guitarists? wow... i close my eyes and here goes.... 1) randy rhoads- the reason i picked up the guitar (anyone seen the remastered ozzy albums recently? picked up "diary") 2) jimi- the reason i play today. 3) david gilmour- reason #2 4) satch- i thought he was fading, but his new album suggests otherwise. 4a) vai- they might as well go together. 5) zappa- probably one of the stranger ones 6) chris degarmo- perhaps best songwriter on the list 7) john petrucci- he'd be here somewhere 8) prince- underrated b/c of his weirdness, but man, can he play 9) david rhodes (peter gabriel)- brilliant 10) zakk wylde- indirectly taught me how to squeal while we're at itm how about some drummers 1) neil peart- not only can he play, but he writes too!! bonus! 2) portnoy- frightens me when i see/hear him. 3) bruford- innovation 4) will calhoun (living colour)- see #1 5) manu katche- best feel. perhaps best taste. 6) carl palmer- brutal 7) chester thompson- zappa ace in the 70s. 8) roger taylor- a singer as well. 9) mitch mitchell 10) colaiuta- zappa, sting. kicks ass wherever he goes. so there...more fuel to this fire. see ya/ david ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 17 Oct 1995 09:24:17 +0200 From: email_address_removed.fi (Antti Nyrhinen) To: email_address_removed Subject: top-5 non-DT poll Message-ID: Did I see a poll? I'm sure I did.. Gottabeapartgottabeapart.. Never mind my ramblings, I just woke up. Here are my top 5 non-DT bands, which I assume are somewhat heavier than people expect from a Dream Theater fan.. (of course, if put on the list, DT would be number 1) 1. Sentenced 2. Cradle of Filth 3. Pantera 4. Carcass 5. Amorphis or Life of Agony or Manowar.. I dunno. By the way, the ACOS EP is gradually dropping off the Finnish top 40 album chart.. I guess it'll still hang in there for a week or two but the peak has been passed.. I still love every second of the EP (even the steam train effect :)) though. -- Antti Nyrhinen --- "Gather Ye rosebuds while you may" Turku, Finland --- email_address_removed.fi DreamTheaterPanteraSentencedEtc. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 17 Oct 1995 00:58:26 -0700 From: email_address_removed (James Garrett) To: email_address_removed Subject: Yet another top 5 Message-ID: Yet another entry into the top 5 non-DT bands/artists: 1) Frank Zappa--most versatile, most prolific, most influential 2) Rush-- when 2112 came out, no other band could touch them 3) Queensryche--I just like them 4) King Diamond--I can't get over the CD "Them," one of the better concept albums 5) Metallica HM: Pink Floyd, Kansas, Jethro Tull, Led Zepplin, Chick Corea, Spyro Gyra, Alan Holdsworth, Bartok, Living Color, Iron Maiden, the list goes on. Next week the top 5 may change. James Garrett We've taken care of everything The words you read, the songs you sing (Rush: 2112) Assasination is the extreme form of censorship. (George Bernard Shaw) ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 17 Oct 1995 10:23:32 +0100 From: borlangw To: email_address_removed Subject: Favourite Bands Message-ID: Have we just jumped back in time? All of a sudden, everyone is posting lists of their favourite bands. This happened a few months ago, and I thought (hoped) that once everyone had got it out of their system, then they wouldn't feel the need to start all over again. These posts are all the same anyway. 99% of these lists consist of Steve Vai, Rush, Pink Floyd, etc. Anyway, the new Iron Maiden album is absolutely crap. It is by far the worst CD I have ever bought. And I'm a dedicated Maiden fan. Graham B. (who is going to see Alanis Morissette on Friday night :-) ______________________________ ______________________________________ |o o| |o o| | Graham Borland |:: | email_address_removed.ac.uk |:: | Dept. of Computing Science |:: | http://www.dcs.gla.ac.uk/~borlangw |:: | Glasgow University |:: | +44 (0)141 357 4033 |:: |______________________________|:: |______________________________________|:: :::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::: :::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::: ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 17 Oct 1995 05:38:30 -0500 From: email_address_removed To: email_address_removed Subject: Guitar set up.. sorta ;) Message-ID: In Ytsejam 1038 Brandon asked: >This question is directed at musicians, but open to everyone, so you can >skip it if you want. I was wondering what kind of setups each of you >played and how you came about playing them. Well, it's not much, and I'm not in a band, but I still am a guitarist. Guitars: Squire Strat 92 (black w/white pickguard and humbucker) Ovation Ultra 89 (grey/green acoustic/electric) Amp: Marshall Lead 30watt solid state amp (my footstool ;) Effects: BOSS MT-2 Metal Zone (distortion pedal.. this rules!) DOD Stereo Chorus (I only have one amp, but it sounds good) Cry Baby Wah Pedal (same as John I think ;) Horizon Guitar Tuner (my ear sucks!) It's all cheap crap (cept for the Ovation :) but it's what I have. I've been playing for about 2 1/2 years now... Getting better all the time. Come to #guitar on IRC, I'm "kylania". lates dave ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Innocence caressing me I never felt so young before There was so much life in me Still I longed to search for more... Ignorance surrounding me I've never felt so filled with fear All my life's been drained from me The end is drawing near... Mike Portnoy - A Change of Seasons - Innocence ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 17 Oct 1995 13:12:02 +0200 (EET) From: Ramin Miraftabi To: email_address_removed Subject: My top 5's Message-ID: Hi All! Non-DT 1. Queen (Beats DT, kill me, flame me...) 2. Jalkavaimo (FInnish Band) 3. Savtage 4. Dire Straits 5. Mike Oldfield Guitarists 1. Steve Vai 2. John Petrucci 3. Brian May 4. Stevie Ray Vaughan 5. Eddie Van Halen That's my 2 cents... -- Ramin Miraftabi email: email_address_removed.fi Dream Theater, Queen and WWW: http://dawn.joensuu.fi/~ramin/ Steve Vai RULE! ------------------------------ End of YTSEJAM Digest 1040 **************************