YTSEJAM Digest 986 Today's Topics: 1) stuff... by "L. Jason Hartman" 2) Bread and buttah by email_address_removed (godfather) 3) Re: YTSEJAM digest 983 by JIMMY 4) subscribe by email_address_removed (Chris DiGiuseppe) 5) A New Thread!?--PLEASE READ! by email_address_removed (Ryan Benedict) 6) A Change of Seasons by email_address_removed 7) Where DT took me after AWAKE by China 8) guess at meaning to Another World by email_address_removed 9) Kevin Moore New CD by Marco Petrini mat.1234 10) Help... by Jeff Hochberg 11) Al Balkiewicz by Pat Daugherty 12) Great Musicians by Pat Daugherty 13) YTSEJAM digest 983 by "Steven Johnson, P" 14) (U)LaBrie by "Steven Johnson, P" 15) The kid on ACoS by email_address_removed (Bracken Odiorne) 16) Re: Great Musicians by Adam Vernon 17) *** Thank You Letter to DT *** --Please READ!!! by email_address_removed 18) Re: YTSEJAM digest 978 by email_address_removed (Eric Lee Steadle) 19) (U)Glad they looked past him by "Steven Johnson, P" 20) Re: Bread and buttah *NDTC* by SaVeur 21) Re: YTSEJAM digest 983 by email_address_removed 22) Rose on ACOS by email_address_removed.de (Steffen Barabasch) 23) releases I might actually care about by Stephen Bajzek 24) releases I might actually care about by Stephen Bajzek 25) Thought Industry by "Brian V. Cox" 26) DT's summer europe dates by "Brian V. Cox" 27) japanese fall ACOS tour by "Brian V. Cox" ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Tue, 26 Sep 1995 23:42:20 -0400 (EDT) From: "L. Jason Hartman" To: email_address_removed Subject: stuff... Message-ID: Just wondering if anyone had any comments about my big ACOS review that I posted? Anybody agree that the buzzing snare is really awful? Someone mentioned about the rose on the cover of ACOS being a WInter Rose. That was cool! :) Any new jammers that are looking for boots can mail me. I've got a big list of them including lots of rare DT stuff. Send me your list if you have one. THanks! -- ************************************************************************** * Jason Hartman "I am the Killing Hand!" email_address_removed * * * * You're fighting the weight of the world, * * and no one can save you this time. * * Close your eyes - you can find all you need in your mind. * * * * "Take the Time" - Dream Theater * ************************************************************************** ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 26 Sep 1995 18:55:17 -0700 (PDT) From: email_address_removed (godfather) To: email_address_removed Subject: Bread and buttah Message-ID: Brian Wherry said --- 5) I really, really dig ACoS. 6) On the movie front: Drop what you're doing, and go see "Seven" rightaway. This flick will blow you all away. I swear, it's the most intense, gripping, and disturbing movie I've seen in as long as I can remember. WOW! Brian Wherry stopped --- Holy crap dude, you got that right. That movie is easily the best movie I've ever seen. I came out of the theater and my heart was beating funny. So, people, if you have a choice between Showgirls and Seven, go for Seven.. :) You won't regret it. Question for Mr. GoodBahr.. Are you shipping AD out on September 30, or are we getting AD on September 30. =) I'm pretty sure it would be shipping on the 30th, but I've got to have some thread of hope. heh Ryan email_address_removed ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 26 Sep 1995 23:57:39 -0400 (EDT) From: JIMMY To: email_address_removed Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 983 Message-ID: PLEASE CANCEL MY SUBSCRIPTION!!! email_address_removed ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 28 Sep 1995 00:17:39 -0500 From: email_address_removed (Chris DiGiuseppe) To: email_address_removed Subject: subscribe Message-ID: Please subscribe me to the ytsejam! email_address_removed ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 27 Sep 1995 00:01:13 +0300 From: email_address_removed (Ryan Benedict) To: email_address_removed Subject: A New Thread!?--PLEASE READ! Message-ID: Dear Jammers, I know that ACoS has just come out, and that everyone is pumped! However, is it really necessary for each and every individual to give their feelings, thoughts, and ideas on the new CD. I knew, once I returned to school and found out that DT had a new one coming out, that the list was going to be jammed full of the same old stuff--"ACoS Rules" or something to that affect. I mean, even before it's release it was "ACoS will be released September 19" ten times per list. It isn't worth taking ten to fifteen minutes to read this list anymore. Everyone and their dog has now posted something about ACoS--please stop! What happened to this list? I remember the first post I read (over a year ago). It was so full of information and just plain interesting to read. It was so cool that I ran back to my room to and listened to all of my DT CDs. I feel sorry for the newbies to the list because they think that this is it! It's not! There used to be interesting threads here--better than any other list around! Now, when I come in and see a new list, I'm not excited. I already know what it will be about--nothing special. It seems that people are just posting here for the sake of posting--WHY? I also remember some of the controversial posts, like this one, that we had in the past (remember SloppyJoe). Fuck, people were vicious. However, all of those flames, hate e-mail, and viscous slanders were fun and interesting to read. However, I guess those controversial people were foreseeing the future. So now I guess it is my turn to be one of those "traders" as everyone will obviously see it. Of course, some will inquire "If you think the list is so boring, and no new threads are posted, why don't YOU start one?" Well, I have! Either people (lurkers too!) will side with me or against me. There are no discussions here anymore; things seem to have died. All of the old list Jammers should know what I mean--remember when the list was full of debates, controversy, helpful hints, important information, and especially Dream Theater! Now it is just "My opinion of ACoS," or a story of some insignificance. Real stories of talking with DT are cool, not drunk people on bus rides with DT mentioned once! I still love Dream Theater for all that it is worth, and in no way is this a personal slam on DT. I know the Greats are watching, and I am ashamed that they must see their list, and our list, fall in rapture. So here I stand! Ryan ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 27 Sep 1995 01:07:56 -0400 From: email_address_removed To: email_address_removed Subject: A Change of Seasons Message-ID: I purchased A Change of Seasons a few days ago. I like the song but I felt that the production quality was somewhat lacking, particularly the annoying high pitched resonance in the snare drum. Did anyone else notice this? Ryan ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 27 Sep 1995 02:08:33 -0400 (EDT) From: China To: email_address_removed Cc: Multiple recipients of list Subject: Where DT took me after AWAKE Message-ID: I'm curious to know what other bands DT (or the ytsejam) is responsible for getting you guys into. For me, after hearing DT, I got into other prog bands (namely Rush, ELP, Queensryche, Fates Warning, Magellan, Black Jester, etc.) After buying AWAKE, I started to get DT boots. Then I hear about all these prog bands that are "like Dream Theater." So I check them out, and I love them. Anyway, if you guys are interested in this thread, please post the bands that you turned to on account of DT or the ytsejam. ****************************************************************************** Brandon "TIME WILL NOT DIM THE GLORY OF THE HAJJ" email_address_removed "No one can hear when you're screaming in digital" - Queensryche ******************************************************************************* ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 27 Sep 1995 01:58:40 -0500 (CDT) From: email_address_removed To: email_address_removed Subject: guess at meaning to Another World Message-ID: Hi ‘jammers! Well, its getting late (I’m typing this at 1:20 AM), but I think I may have come up with a decent understanding on the lyrics in the Another World part of ACoS, so I felt it important to share with all, since I don’t recall anyone else covering it *yet* (<---- geeze, is that a run on sentence or what?!?) If it has been covered before (I actually am not the kind of person who normally dissects the lyrics, but...) please forgive me. BTW, sorry if this goes a bit into religion (I personally don’t like to mix religion and good music but I’m making an exception here); also, I DON’T mean to offend anyone at all (for the record, I myself am a strong Christian). Okay, anyway, we all know that Mike is more of a secular guy (AKA not very religious, or so it seems). Also, it’s been established that the death of Mike’s mother was one of the (main?) inspirations for this song. Keeping those things mind, judging by what the lyrics state, I think Mike is speaking about bitterness felt towards religion after his mother passed away. The lyrics say “I was blinded by a paradise, Utopia high in the sky” I would imagine referring to him originally believing that his mother was going to heaven, but then after seeing the lies of many religious leaders (Baker, Swaggert, etc.), second-guessing what really is the truth about what happened to his mother after she died. “Oh come let us adore him, abuse and then ignore him” - possibly referring to people and the church apologizing to Mike for her death (probably telling him that God needed another angel or something like that) but then just disappearing after the funeral and not having any further contact with him (not exactly what people who REALLY care would do). “I’m sick of all you hypocrites holding me at bay, and I don’t need your sympathy to get me through the day” - Mike’s response to those “friends” at the funeral and those at the church. I realize I may be stretching things a bit and I don’t have an explanation for all the lyrics, but like I said, I think the overall message in Another World is Mike’s disillusionment with religion from the lies he’s seen and this is brought up by his mother’s death. Again, I apologize if I offended anyone - this was just my interpretation, and is not the verified official meaning behind the lyrics. However, I would be curious as to what others think of the lyrics from this section of ACoS - do you agree with me or do you have a different interpretation of the lyrics? Sorry for the long post - I’ll shut up now... Scott Hansen email_address_removed ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 27 Sep 1995 09:07:43 +0100 (MET) From: Marco Petrini mat.1234 To: email_address_removed Subject: Kevin Moore New CD Message-ID: Hi Jammers i'm new on this list, i'm a very jammer from italy, how did you find ACOS ??? It' s great for me, I have a copy of the Ep (without the live part) since july 1995. Yes, Mike Portnoy give me a preview copy at DT concert in Rimini (My town). And I make a my personal copy at the concert with my walkman. It was the second time I meet the band and they are very funny. I want to know everything about the new cd of Kevin Moore, I think that at the guitar will be Mark (the guitar tech of John Petrucci) it's true ??? I tried to ask this to Mark at Rimini but he reply me : "...may be !!!". Well tanks in advance for your reply...and if you want notice about Dt ask me..... Petru$ email_address_removed.it ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 27 Sep 1995 09:23:18 -0400 (EDT) From: Jeff Hochberg To: Dream Theater mailing list Subject: Help... Message-ID: Could someone kindly forward me a copy of digest #982? Thanks. Jeff email_address_removed ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 27 Sep 1995 10:12:47 -0400 (EDT) From: Pat Daugherty To: Dream Theater Subject: Al Balkiewicz Message-ID: Is anyone in contact with him? He has only owed me 3 video tapes for 8 months. My patience is thinning.... Pat's current hotlist: DT:ACOS Fates Warning:Chasing Time Savatage:Handful of Rain Collective Soul:(their latest) **** Pat Daugherty email_address_removed **** ** "Every breath leaves me one less to my last" --Dream Theater ** ** "That is not an option, Mr. Mulder" --X-Files ** **** GO REDSKINS!!!! Dream Theater - A Change of Seasons -out now **** ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 27 Sep 1995 10:16:40 -0400 (EDT) From: Pat Daugherty To: Dream Theater Subject: Great Musicians Message-ID: We all know the members of DT are great musicians. Does anyone here like Dave Matthews band? They come nowhere close to DT's type of music, but I find them to be excellent musicians, especially the violinist. He is amazing. I guess their music is alternative/rock? I saw DMB in concert and although they put on an excellent show, they do not compare to DT in concert. **** Pat Daugherty email_address_removed **** ** "Every breath leaves me one less to my last" --Dream Theater ** ** "That is not an option, Mr. Mulder" --X-Files ** **** GO REDSKINS!!!! Dream Theater - A Change of Seasons -out now **** ------------------------------ Date: 27 Sep 1995 09:32:09 GMT From: "Steven Johnson, P" To: email_address_removed Subject: YTSEJAM digest 983 Message-ID: *** Reply to note of 09/26/95 18:38 Regarding "massive fuck" and/or "mercy fuck".....It makes even more sense when you put in correct grammar (being a writer I like grammatical clarity, though my posts don't always show it :)). "I don't need your mercy, (COMMA!!!) fuck!" He's talking to someone. And, yeah, it makes MUCH more sense than "massive." LATER- Steve --------------------------------------------------------------- "Lost in the sky/Clouds roll by and I roll with them Arrows fly/Seas increase and then fall again." - Dream Theater ------------------------------ Date: 27 Sep 1995 09:49:09 GMT From: "Steven Johnson, P" To: email_address_removed Subject: (U)LaBrie Message-ID: OK...Since we've talked about Myung and Petrucci's ability to improvise (or lack thereof, whichever side you're on), I'd like to submit James' weakness in this department. It seems to show a lot on the ACOS covers where athe singer imporovises over the chorus at the end of songs or at other parts written as instrumental. First, James only sticks to "Ohhhhhhhhhhh" and "Waohhhhhhhhhh." He doesn't even use the "Yeahhhhhhhhhhhhhh" that many singers use. But this could be more style and an attempt avoid watering down the lyrics as written. Second, his vocal patterns never deviate from long drawn out notes that slur from one to the next. Not abig deal, but they tend to show little decisiveness as to where he wants to go and if it fits the chord changes. Overall, he just doesn't seem confortable. I think this is especially true in "Perfect Strangers." To me, James is better at singing written material than trying to infuse a different approach on any given song. I think it's easier for a singer to reproduce the originalscore than a Petrucci or Myung to (on-stage) recreate the 12 4th notes they write. But James still seems to be tentative in his improvisiations. Thoughts, anyone? Does this make sense? Best example off the top of my head would be Steve Perry and his vocal meanderings. Maybe this isn't a real big area of expression in progressive rock. LATER- Steve --------------------------------------------------------------- "Lost in the sky/Clouds roll by and I roll with them Arrows fly/Seas increase and then fall again." - Dream Theater ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 27 Sep 1995 09:32:56 -0600 (MDT) From: email_address_removed (Bracken Odiorne) To: email_address_removed Subject: The kid on ACoS Message-ID: Hey all, I read elsewhere that someone thinks this kid looks like the Kid from Boy Meets World (is it?). I can see that, but my wife and I think the kid on the cover of ACoS looks a hellava lot like Mike Portnoy. Does he have a son, nephew, cousin, genetic engineering laboratory? Also, the guy on the inside cover isn't our favorite old guy of Fates Warning fame (Metallica ripped him off from them). Anybody know who it is? Wouldn't it be funny if they were both related to MP? Well maybe not funny, ha ha funny, but rather, funny interesting funny. Gotta go. Slideshow boring. Losing consciousness. SPOON! Bracken (Tick Fan and member of the Mystic Order of Arachnid Vigilance) "...Without music, life would be an error." Nietzsche -Twilight of the Idols- ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 27 Sep 1995 13:02:05 -0400 (EDT) From: Adam Vernon To: email_address_removed Cc: Multiple recipients of list Subject: Re: Great Musicians Message-ID: On Wed, 27 Sep 1995, Pat Daugherty wrote: > We all know the members of DT are great musicians. > > Does anyone here like Dave Matthews band? They come nowhere close to DT's > type of music, but I find them to be excellent musicians, especially > the violinist. He is amazing. I guess their music is alternative/rock? > I saw DMB in concert and although they put on an excellent show, they > do not compare to DT in concert. > As a fan of bot DT and DMB I felt compelled to reply to this post. I agree that the members of DMB are excellent musicians, and indeed their style of music is nothing like DT's. However, I would not agree that the members of DT are a.) better musicians, or b.) better in concert. If anything they are probably equally as talented musically and in my opinion DMB puts on a better live show. The difference to me is that DMB never plays the same show twice. They mix up the songs every show, adding and removing tunes to keep things fresh. Also, the boys in DMB, particularly Boyd Tinsley, the violinist, play incredible stretches of improvised music throughout their songs. Not only do they play different songs every show, but they never play the same song exactly the same way. That is why true DMB fans are very fanatical about getting bootlegs of many different shows because each is so unique. Dave is also notorious for playing many of their songs solo...just his voice and his guitar. To anyone interested in a truely ORIGINAL and gifted band give these guys a listen. The band consists of Dave, who plays acoustic guitar and sings, a violinist, a saxaphone(woodwind) player, a bassist, and a drummer. Check out Remember Two Things for older live stuff and acoustic Dave, or buy the studio release Under The Table and Dreaming for a more polished sound. You might have heard Ants Marching from this album...it is pretty popular these days. Later, -- Adam Vernon. "Eat, drink and be merry, email_address_removed For tomorrow we die." - DMB > **** Pat Daugherty email_address_removed **** > ** "Every breath leaves me one less to my last" --Dream Theater ** > ** "That is not an option, Mr. Mulder" --X-Files ** > **** GO REDSKINS!!!! Dream Theater - A Change of Seasons -out now **** > > > ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 27 Sep 95 10:50:03 PST From: email_address_removed To: email_address_removed Subject: *** Thank You Letter to DT *** --Please READ!!! Message-ID: * The letters are still rolling in, 46 so far... but out of the 970 * or so people on the Jam? Come on we can do better... 8^) I will now begin accepting personal messages to be included in the thank you letter that we will send to DT for putting out ACOS (and for thanking us in the liner notes :).. So go ahead and type up your message to DT and send them to ME PERSONALLY (not the list), I will compile all of them into a booklet format, print them and send them to DT's management (more details as I get close to finishing it). Send your submissions to: email_address_removed put 'DTTYL' in the subject so I don't miss your email and include your name, city,state,country and email address... I would like to put a DEADLINE FOR SUBMISSIONS, let's say Oct 13th... that gives everyone a couple of weeks to do it. Also, if someone has the DT logo or other artwork in a format that I can use (PC/Windows) please let me know... this should preferably be black and white line art type stuff or true type fonts... Any questions, comments, suggestions, etc. send 'em my way... +-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-+ | Michael Kizer -- Computer Sciences Corporation (Tucson, AZ) | | email_address_removed (preferred) -or- email_address_removed | | http://www.indirect.com/www/mkizer/index.htm | | ^--> Check here for the Dream Theater Song Book... | | "Plus ca change, plus c'est la meme chose." -Rush (The Band!) | +-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-+ ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 27 Sep 1995 14:58:00 -0400 From: email_address_removed (Eric Lee Steadle) To: email_address_removed Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 978 Message-ID: >>Have any of you heard of a band called Saga? They are from Canada and have >>a similiar sound to DT. Very keyboard related. They have been likened to a >>mix between Rush, Marillion, Pink Floyd and Dream Theater. I think they >>have a style all their own. If you haven't heard anything from them yet, go >>buy Generation 13, you won't be dissapointed. I've been a fan of Saga ever since I heard World's Apart. Their very best song ever is on this album and it's called "No Stranger". If you ever find this in the discount bin, it'd be a wise investment. Also on this same CD is a song that got some airplay back when I was in High School - "On the Loose". An excellent tune as well. Four of their earlier CDs contain songs labeled as chapters. I had a hard time finding them all, but I finally did it a couple years ago. It's kind of interesting to listen to, bit I didn't really dissect it so I don't know if it has any deep meaning or tells some kind of story. Surprisingly I don't have any of their recent stuff (Heads or Tails is the last one I have - it's great too). I think I'll pick up G 13 now, though. There's a part in Derek's solo that reminds me of a Saga song, I just haven't had a chance to go back and find out which one. It's the "de da da do - de da da de" at 18:56-18:58 that I'm thinking I've heard before. If I find it I'll post info. ERX ^^^^^^^ Please don't ask about the laptop. | | 'That' computer? | | ()___ | I wonder if He'll ever figure out that (_ )| we gave him an Etch-a-Sketch. | | |_____\ ^ #------\ | | ____\ (_J / /| | /___/ | | / / | ~~~~~~~~~ ------------------------------ Date: 27 Sep 1995 15:41:15 GMT From: "Steven Johnson, P" To: email_address_removed Subject: (U)Glad they looked past him Message-ID: I finally listened closely to the Subcon version of DLPM with "whassisname" singing (don't have the info sheet in front of me). He did have some range, for sure. But his style sucked and he completely sounded like a puss-boy. He would have fit in nicely singing Carpenters songs (sorry to all Karen Carpenter fans). I know this post should have been sent a few months ago, but MAN I can't believe they even spent studio time with him. Sap city!!! LATER fo' you!!! Steve --------------------------------------------------------------- "Lost in the sky/Clouds roll by and I roll with them Arrows fly/Seas increase and then fall again." - Dream Theater ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 27 Sep 1995 19:36:57 -0400 (EDT) From: SaVeur To: email_address_removed Subject: Re: Bread and buttah *NDTC* Message-ID: On Wed, 27 Sep 1995, godfather wrote: > Brian Wherry said --- > 6) On the movie front: Drop what you're doing, and go see "Seven" > rightaway. This flick will blow you all away. I swear, it's the most > intense, gripping, and disturbing movie I've seen in as long as I can > remember. WOW! > Brian Wherry stopped --- > > Holy crap dude, you got that right. That movie is easily the best movie > I've ever seen. I came out of the theater and my heart was beating > funny. So, people, if you have a choice between Showgirls and Seven, go > for Seven.. :) You won't regret it. se7en was REALY good. not number 1 tho... 1. Pulp Fiction 2. se7en :) still need to fix this old .sig.... ::::::::::John C. Jens, Jr.:::::::::::::::::::"You could make a choice,:::::::: :::::::::::email_address_removed:::::::::::::::::::::but you never learned to think.":: ::http://www.site.gmu.edu/~jjens/:::::::::::::::::::-Fates Warning::::::::::::: ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 27 Sep 1995 10:49:05 -0500 (EST) From: email_address_removed To: email_address_removed Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 983 Message-ID: Hello everyone, it's Babs. This is for Jennie Bear. I haven't heard from you in a while, where are you? I tried to email you a couple times and haven't heard back. Also for Rob Martino - thanks for sticking up for David. He needs all the support he can get (just kidding). Actually David and I are good friends, no need to worry. We love to argue about things, it's half the fun! -BABS ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 27 Sep 1995 15:55:56 +0100 (MEZ) From: email_address_removed.de (Steffen Barabasch) To: email_address_removed (Ytsejam - the Dream Theater mailing list) Subject: Rose on ACOS Message-ID: Hello! > The rose on the cover of ACOS, in the snow, is a Winter Rose, right? Hey! I also noticed this little connection, but I always forgot to tell you about it... Hmmm... Steffen ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 27 Sep 1995 11:54:43 -0400 (EDT) From: Stephen Bajzek To: Multiple recipients of list , Subject: releases I might actually care about Message-ID: Excerpts from graffiti.aepithex.otherbandstuff: 26-Sep-95 New Releases by "Dr. Teeth"@VAX1.MANKATO > r 10/10 Leonard Nimoy Mr. Spock's Music From Outer Space > 10/10 Joe Satriani Joe Satriani > * 10/17 Yngwie Malmsteen Magnum Opus > 10/24 GWAR Rag Na Rok MBR > 10/24 Ozric Tentacles Become the Other > * 10/31 Helloween Master of the Rings > *R 11/06 Genesis Genesis Archives Vol1 > 11/07 Alice in Chains Tripod > 11/07 Queen Made In Heaven HOL/arb > * 11/21 The Simpsons The Yellow Album > 01/96 Tori Amos /che > > * 01/96 King's X <title unavailable> ATL/jzp > > 02/96 Galactic Cowboys Machine Fish MBR > > 05/96 Fates Warning <title unavailable> MBR > > 07/96 Dream Theater <title unavailable> ELEK/ka And they forgot Iron Maiden on October 3. -Max Anton Max Keyboards, Aepithex MadMax+@cmu.edu ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 27 Sep 1995 11:56:06 -0400 (EDT) From: Stephen Bajzek <MadMax+@CMU.EDU> To: Multiple recipients of list <email_address_removed> Subject: releases I might actually care about Message-ID: <message_id_removed> Oops. Didn't mean to send that to the list. Sorry about that. -Max Anton Max Keyboards, Aepithex MadMax+@cmu.edu ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 27 Sep 1995 11:42:24 -0500 (CDT) From: "Brian V. Cox" <email_address_removed> To: email_address_removed Subject: Thought Industry Message-ID: <message_id_removed> some last jam asked if anyone out here listens to thought industry. i do, and i must say that thought industry is *the shit*... thought industry is to me the most interesting metal band to come around in a long time. they do as much for me as echolyn. in fact, my two favorite cd's to listen to right now are echolyn's "suffocating the bloom" and thought industry's "mod's carve the pig". thought industry is from kalamazoo, MI, and blend prog-metal, industrial, thrash, acoustic, jazz, all kinds of styles together to create a unique style of their own that is just amazing. they have 2 albums out already (that i know of) plus one about to be released: songs for insects mods carve the pigs: toad's, assassins, and god's flesh outer space is just a martini away mods carve is the only one i have, songs for insects is out of print. i have heard it though and it is amazing. i saw them in houston (and DAT taped them of course) and they played some songs from the forthcoming outer space album, and they were amazing too. if you can find one of their albums, snag the sucker. songs for insects is as hard to find as suffocating the bloom or helstar's nosferatu... **always looking for rush/dream theater/queensryche/king's x bootlegs** ============================================================================= Voices repeating me, Brian V. Cox Voices discussing me, "Feeling threatened? email_address_removed "Others steal your thoughts We reflect your hopes Dream Theater- They're not confined and fears." A Mind Beside Itself: II. Voices Within your mind." ============================================================================= check out my new homepage: http://tam2000.tamu.edu/~bvc8995 ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 27 Sep 1995 11:44:12 -0500 (CDT) From: "Brian V. Cox" <email_address_removed> To: email_address_removed Subject: DT's summer europe dates Message-ID: <message_id_removed> anyone with any info about the dates dt did in europe after march of this year please email me. i need to add all of the shows to the complete tour date master list. i am missing a few from the summer tour. **always looking for rush/dream theater/queensryche/king's x bootlegs** ============================================================================= Voices repeating me, Brian V. Cox Voices discussing me, "Feeling threatened? email_address_removed "Others steal your thoughts We reflect your hopes Dream Theater- They're not confined and fears." A Mind Beside Itself: II. Voices Within your mind." ============================================================================= check out my new homepage: http://tam2000.tamu.edu/~bvc8995 ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 27 Sep 1995 11:47:43 -0500 (CDT) From: "Brian V. Cox" <email_address_removed> To: email_address_removed Subject: japanese fall ACOS tour Message-ID: <message_id_removed> as stupid as it sounds, i am considering flying my ass to japan from texas to catch at least one (maybe all 3) of the japanese shows next month. if anyone has some info about where to stay, how to get around, where to get cheap airline tix, etc, i would appreciate it. the shows are on 10/26, 10/28, and 10/30. anyone wanna come with? :) i am considering selling off most of my guitar rack to pay for the trip, and going as a graduating present to myself. i am graduating in december and i figure i can always buy new guitar shit then. this might be the last opportunity to ever see DT play ACOS and i have never seen it performed live. of course if i go, i will be DAT taping :) i would also like some info from you japanese folks about security and stuff at the japanese shows. later.. **always looking for rush/dream theater/queensryche/king's x bootlegs** ============================================================================= Voices repeating me, Brian V. Cox Voices discussing me, "Feeling threatened? email_address_removed "Others steal your thoughts We reflect your hopes Dream Theater- They're not confined and fears." A Mind Beside Itself: II. Voices Within your mind." ============================================================================= check out my new homepage: http://tam2000.tamu.edu/~bvc8995 ------------------------------ End of YTSEJAM Digest 986 *************************