YTSEJAM Digest 980 Today's Topics: 1) ACOS by w de boer 2) ...the old guy by "DANIEL JAMES TEMMESFELD" 3) Drum clinic & Sub dubers by email_address_removed (Trey Allen) 4) Ivory Gate... by Aviad Shkolnikov 5) Snare Triggers... by "Damian G. Allis" 6) Re: YTSEJAM digest 979 by email_address_removed 7) POWER WINDOWS by John Ambrose 8) Re: YTSEJAM digest 979 by email_address_removed 9) Re: Ivory Gate of Dreams by Stephen Bajzek 10) Tony Kaye (ytsejam Post) (fwd) by John Nguyen 11) A Change of Underwear ----> DoE vs. Studio (YTSEJAM POST) IMPORTANT MESSAGE FOR THOSE WHO WANT PLEASE DON'T GO BACK IN THE SONG!!!! (fwd) by John Nguyen 12) Babsing by email_address_removed (David B. Kuznick) 13) Re: two cents by "Robert Quezada" 14) Uhm. Beans make you toot. by email_address_removed (godfather) 15) Kevin Moore by Dirt Cheap Technology 16) Re:Voices in ACoS by email_address_removed (A G Stiles) 17) whatever by email_address_removed (Mike Rappazzo) 18) by email_address_removed (Jerry George) 19) by E. Waldron 20) Kevin's demos; related notes by email_address_removed (Ryan Park) 21) Some news, views and queries by "Richard Karsmakers" 22) bunch of stuff by email_address_removed 23) A recent DT experience by Ross Specter 24) ACOS Poll by email_address_removed (John Hough) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 25 Sep 1995 11:32:11 +0100 From: w de boer To: email_address_removed Cc: email_address_removed.NL Subject: ACOS Message-ID: Hi Jammers, I don't know if my previous mail arrived allright, but that was my very first mail to the list. I'm an informatics student and the mailserver at our school does some weird things sometimes, so I'm never sure if any mail I send actually gets there. Anyway, I was wondering what this ACOS is, that everybody is so excited about. Can anyone fill me in? Later! Wietze. "Dig, be dug and above all, peace on your head" - Johnny Q. Public ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 25 Sep 1995 07:18:00 -500 (EST) From: "DANIEL JAMES TEMMESFELD" To: email_address_removed Subject: ...the old guy Message-ID: isn't the old guy on the inside cover the same guy from the Metallica "Enter Sandman" video? and from the Fates Warning "Parallels" album cover? or maybe all old people are starting to look alike to me... ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 25 Sep 95 08:29:24 -0400 From: email_address_removed (Trey Allen) To: email_address_removed Subject: Drum clinic & Sub dubers Message-ID: 1) If anyone who saw Mike's drum clinic or anyone else knows the dates of any other clinics, please post them. (Sorry for the bad grammer) 2) Here is the current Subconscious Dub site list. Send -ME- mail to add your name. ------------------------------------------------------------------ John Hough email_address_removed San Diego, Ca. Mathew Yee email_address_removed San Jose, CA Robert Quezada email_address_removed Central NJ Trey Allen email_address_removed Jacksonville, Fl Marc Respass email_address_removed Massachusetts polzin edward george email_address_removed Champane, Illonoise email_address_removed (Gregory Cole) Richmond, Va. Dave Delmont email_address_removed Omaha, NE Paul W. Cashman email_address_removed Atlanta, Ga. Dr. Teeth (David Peterson) email_address_removed Mankato, MN Wilco Barg email_address_removed.NL somewhere in Europe email_address_removed.fi Europe also email_address_removed.de (Steffen Barabasch) Germany Andrew Garinger email_address_removed East Lansing, MI. =========================================================== ____________________________________________________________________________ "...Every day there's a constant reminder of all the pleasures we shared together. Love is not just a passing word, it's a state of heart that goes on forever..." (Mike Portnoy of Dream Theater) Trey Allen - email_address_removed - http://junix.ju.edu/UsrWebPages/tallen/home.html _____________________________________________________________________________ ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 25 Sep 95 14:35 +0300 From: Aviad Shkolnikov To: email_address_removed Subject: Ivory Gate... Message-ID: Hi everybody! Well, damn it, I don't have ACOS yet. I only found it in one Jerusalem store, but I had no money on me then (the cruelness of destiny...). Anyway, on what FW album does "Ivory gate of Dreams" appear? Thanks - Aviad ***************************************************************************** "We went shoping for God, * "See my diary on the news stand, and got the God of Shoping..." * Seems we lost the truth to quicksand" Galiano * Dream Theater, "Voices" ***************************************************************************** ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 25 Sep 1995 09:03:21 -0400 (EDT) From: "Damian G. Allis" To: Ytsejam Subject: Snare Triggers... Message-ID: Snare triggers are a very nasty invention. The problem that Mike had with them was that there is no sensitivity to the triggers. It either registers each hit in full, or it doesn't register any hits at all. It's kind of like a nerve impulse. Either you get total summation to form an action potential, or you don't get any signal. This sucks ass on a snare drum, because you can't do ghost strokes with most triggers. All the subtle nuances to his style got lost because the trigger wouldn't recognize them. Take Metropolis, for example. During the last instrumental section (before they start the last round of lyrics), they're doing that little groove that alternates 5's and 7's. We hear the crash on the 1 and 3 (1,3, and 5 on the 7's), and the snare drum in between all those. Well, as Mike told me, he wanted that snare part to be in the background as filler. With the triggers, however, he had to have it right up in the mix. The goo..er..well, Mr. Prater wouldn't budge with the trigger idea. Unfortunately, DT was a relatively NEW band to the big-market business when IaW came out. The band didn't have a choice as with what to use. When ACoS came out, the band had more than enough leverage with EastWest to decide what they wanted, and DIDN'T want, in the studio. Damian #8-)= P.S. Mike's "intellectual" reading is all set. Thanks for those that helped. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 25 Sep 1995 09:27:43 -0500 (EST) From: email_address_removed To: email_address_removed Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 979 Message-ID: Hello everyone, it's BABS. This message is for Al Balkiewicz. I received you card and I have tried to email you three times and it keeps bouncing back to me. Please try to email me direct at: email_address_removed BTW everyone, Al sent his regards to the Y'jam! -BABS ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 25 Sep 95 9:37:46 EDT From: John Ambrose To: email_address_removed Cc: email_address_removed Subject: POWER WINDOWS Message-ID: Attention all Planets of the Solar Federation... On Saturday night, I went to see the Rush tribute band, Power Windows, at the Rock and Roll Cafe in NYC. I've seen them about 10 times, and, Saturday night, they were at their best! They hit all the old classics, and did a damn good job with them, too. This was also, by far, the biggest crowd I've seen at one of their shows. I highly recommend any NYC-area Rush fans to check them out. Also, the members of Power Windows have an original progressive rock band called Ten Ton Tide. I have their CD, and it's pretty good. It's a littlw more like Saga than like Rush, but I'd still recommend it. At the Roch 'n' Roll Cafe on Wednesday, Oct 4, there will be a special night of Prog Rock, at which Ten Ton Tide is headlining. This should be a major event for NYC-area independent-label prog, but future Prog Nights will be held only if the response is good this Oct 4. Definitely make an effort to attend! --"laissez faire" ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 25 Sep 1995 09:49:53 -0500 (EST) From: email_address_removed To: email_address_removed Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 979 Message-ID: To the Ystejammer who posted the poem Rosebud's - thank you. I was wondering where I could locate the words to it. -BABS ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 25 Sep 1995 09:50:43 -0400 (EDT) From: Stephen Bajzek To: Multiple recipients of list Subject: Re: Ivory Gate of Dreams Message-ID: Excerpts from mail.ytsejam: 25-Sep-95 Ivory Gate of Dreams by Matthew Sirois@uhura.cc. > With ACoS being 23+ minutes there's been a lot of talkon the jam > about the art of composing a long song, as well as the mentioning of other > long songs from Rush and the like. Sadly, and perhaps criminally, no one > mentioned "Ivory Gate of Dreams" by Fates Warning. At 21.58 I'd certainly > call it long, and it's definitly progressive. And like ACoS it has an It's also about 30 times more aggressive and energetic than the new ACOS, if you like more of an adrenaline rush. And progressive as it is, there's no mistaking it for anything other than metal. > acoustic intro/outro (maybe even better than the one in ACoS). At around I would say definitely better than the one in ACoS. IGOD has an absolutely beautiful central melody, played acoustically at the beginning and end, and popping up throughout that in my opinion ties it all together much better than the new ACoS, which I think is missing what was it's most unifying element (the classical flavour.) The Ivory Gate of Dreams is a true masterpiece, and I must say I like it more than A Change of Seasons. It's that good. On the No Exit album for anyone who wants to try it out. Oh, and the drums...oh god...in some places it sounds like the world is coming to an end. > 10.30 there's a beautiful piano solo, which is later repeated on the guitar > towards the end of the song. Definitely worth checking out... > Sorry to all thos loyal FW fans who knew this already (I hope > there's a lot of you). When the Revolution is over, you will be richly > rewarded. There's a revolution coming? I had a long, really weird dream last night, and part of it was getting to hear the new (post-Frank) Fates Warning, and dammit, it kicked some serious ass. It sounded like Life in Still Water overlaid with this awesome chorus sound like in 7th Son of a 7th Son, and with long neoclassical passages like the one they unfortunately cut from ACoS. The song utterly ruled. I'm hoping this was an accurate vision of a future FW song. If it isn't, dammit, I'm just going to have to write it myself... -Max Anton Max Keyboards, Aepithex MadMax+@cmu.edu ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 25 Sep 1995 09:57:13 -0500 (CDT) From: John Nguyen To: email_address_removed Subject: Tony Kaye (ytsejam Post) (fwd) Message-ID: ---------- Forwarded message ---------- Date: Sun, 24 Sep 1995 12:04:52 -0400 (EDT) From: Andrew Dietrick Miller To: "John T. Nguyen" Subject: Tony Kaye (ytsejam Post) I think the past 20 years of Tony's life have been pointless. But the first three (I'm half asleep but that should be right) albums he made with the band were excellent, His keys were amazing. If you don't have The Yes Album, Time and a Word, or Yes--- GET THEM. I'm sick of all you Hypocrites, holding me at bay. I don't need your Massive Fuck, to get me through the day. -M.Portnoy Andy (I'm very upset, I was invited to see King's X in the studio today and I can't go :( Andrew Miller email_address_removed University Of Delaware Contact me @ (302) 837-2389 *************************** Mutual Individualism? -echolyn ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 25 Sep 1995 09:57:41 -0500 (CDT) From: John Nguyen To: email_address_removed Subject: A Change of Underwear ----> DoE vs. Studio (YTSEJAM POST) IMPORTANT MESSAGE FOR THOSE WHO WANT PLEASE DON'T GO BACK IN THE SONG!!!! (fwd) Message-ID: ---------- Forwarded message ---------- Date: Sun, 24 Sep 1995 23:54:48 -0400 (EDT) From: Andrew Dietrick Miller To: "John T. Nguyen" Subject: A Change of Underwear ----> DoE vs. Studio (YTSEJAM POST) IMPORTANT MESSAGE FOR THOSE WHO WANT PLEASE DON'T GO BACK IN THE SONG!!!! Today was the first day since I bought the E.P. that I really felt the need for comparsions was in order. Now for those of you who think that DoE is better, you have very big problems, or you must state you case better. The e.p. is some much more complete and the lyrics are better worked. The best way to do a comparison (which is what I did), is take the new lyrics and listen to the old song. "My Eyes feel full with Desire Fullfilled" or "All is lost with Nothing Fullfilled", I'll take the latter. Also as far as PLEASE DO GO is concerned, orginally I thought it was very important. Now I realize it only makes sense in the middle of the song. III-- Carpe Diem--- right at the end. But as far as for the end of the song PLESE DON'T GO just does't fit. The lyrics are the same in both versions till that point and it just doesn't make sense to have PDG. I think it is great to have both versions but, Please Don't Go is rightfully gone.. Thanks for reading, Andy "Massive Fuck" Andrew Miller email_address_removed University Of Delaware Contact me @ (302) 837-2389 *************************** Mutual Individualism? -echolyn ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 25 Sep 95 10:59:58 -0400 From: email_address_removed (David B. Kuznick) To: email_address_removed Subject: Babsing Message-ID: > Date: Fri, 22 Sep 1995 09:50:04 -0500 (EST) > From: email_address_removed > > Hello everyone, it's Babs. This is for David: > > I see that everyone is having a great time disecting ACoS. I am just > stating how I personally feel about. Remember there is no right and there > is no wrong! Sure. Didn't mean to imply otherwise. I certainly don't remember even really disagreeing with anything you said. It just prompted some thaoughts of my own. > Now as for DT not developing/stating a them: > > (look out everybody). It is a SONG David, not a F@*KING ESSAY. Ah, but that's the whole point, IMO. It's NOT *just a song*. Prog rock has never been about writing *just songs*, no matter how much people (like a certain cretinous P. Collins) like to try and dismiss their past or present works. And even many *just songs* are great *because* they have essay-like qualities: intro, statement of theme, development, summary, closing. Don't kid yourself. Esp. 20 minute jobs. How can that be *just a song*? Without themes, development, etc it would just turn into a 20 minute wanking session (which some might claim most 20 minute songs are anyway ;-) And point #2 is that some of us *enjoy* dissecting songs that interest us. It adds to our enjoyment. > PS I'm sure that I will be talking to you over the weekend about this > David. Make sure that you get a good night's sleep before talking > to me (giggle)! I love a challenge :) :-) Unfortunately, I was in NYC this weekend. David Kuznick - email_address_removed (Work: http://www.ci.com Play: coming soon...) So storm through the barricades and raise your hands up high All of you pull down your walls, help those too scared to try Don't let them tell you it's only a dream, for never to dream is to die. Don't close your eyes. - "For Your Eyes" - ARAGON ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 25 Sep 1995 13:46:27 +0000 From: "Robert Quezada" To: email_address_removed Subject: Re: two cents Message-ID: > Which brings me to a cool idea. Wouldn't it be awesome if DT could > release a cd-rom interactive version of the song. They could have > recorded all the parts they have had in the song before plus the new > parts, and then we could cut and paste together the "perfect" version. > Think of it: replacing Portnoy's piccolo snare sound (which BTW i love) > with the triggered I&W sound; or adding in the "Please Don't Go" part; > or that classical part thats missing from this version. That sounds like a great idea. An idea I had would be to release some of the videos on CD, sort of like Philips new Rainbow book CD format (I think this is what it's called) that can play in a CD player or in a computer. They are supposed to have computer data on them like music videos in Quicktime or MPEG format. The only problem with this is that they wouldn't have as much room on the CD for songs...... unless, it came with 2 CDs. rq ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 25 Sep 1995 09:52:35 -0700 (PDT) From: email_address_removed (godfather) To: email_address_removed Subject: Uhm. Beans make you toot. Message-ID: email_address_removed (Lars Hellsten) said---- What's this about the ACOS cover not having the Majesty symbol, nor WDADU? Whoever posted that, you need to have your eyes examined. :) The Majesty logo is there, quite blatantly on the kid's sand bucket (well, maybe not obvious at first, but you know they'd have to stick it in there somewhere). As for WDADU, well,the logo is present about 2-3 times on the front and back. email_address_removed (Lars Hellsten) like, stopped, or something---- The dude was talking about the art ON THE CD. =) Ryan email_address_removed ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 25 Sep 1995 13:04:04 -0400 (EDT) From: Dirt Cheap Technology To: email_address_removed Subject: Kevin Moore Message-ID: okay i dont want to spread any false rumors or anything...but someone today who says they know kevin moore said that he is playing BASS GUITAR in a band now...with this guitarist named richard kern...is this true? does anyone know? like i said this is jsut what i heard and want to confirm it...thanks. ******************************************************************************** Dirt Cheap Technology. ******************************************************************************** ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 25 Sep 1995 12:13:05 -0500 From: email_address_removed (A G Stiles) To: email_address_removed Subject: Re:Voices in ACoS Message-ID: Last Thursday (21st), Dave (email_address_removed) asked: > Does anyone know exactly what the voice under James's 'whoa'ing from > 9:48-10:08 is saying. I can pick up a little of it but not it all.... After many many many a listen (about 3 or more times a day since last tuesday), I could only pick out a few things. - Early on I think I could hear "Dearly Beloved," which is common to most wedding ceremonies. - About 2/3 of the way through I heard (a rather distinctive) "something happened." - At the very end the was a very distinctive "was killed." There is definately some talking in the background. Whether or not we are *supposed* to hear it is another question. Anyone else hear something more / else / different? Andrew G. Stiles ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 25 Sep 1995 12:55:42 -0400 From: email_address_removed (Mike Rappazzo) To: email_address_removed Subject: whatever Message-ID: Hey everyone, I have been a lurker for a while, and I decided to post. First, I have to say to whoever it was that posted about the ivory gate of dreams: I completely agree that the ivory gate... is an amazing so, that should have gotten a better recognition. BTW, I love anacrusis (prog thrash!) Another thing is about the samples in SDV. I though one time that While listening to WDADU (maybe on FIL or near the beginning of the CD) I heard a SDV sample. Maybe it's me, but I could have sworn that it's true. One of my friends told me that the bassist of echolyn left :'-( I sure hope that it isn't true. That would suck for such a talented band. thanks for your ears! ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ "Words break hearts | Mike "Bum" Rappazzo as easily as they | email_address_removed break the silence." |------------------------------------------------- |"Guys, the internet has a willis factor of -50." - Sessup Uralli | - Tim the Bim ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 25 Sep 1995 12:47:54 -0500 From: email_address_removed (Jerry George) To: email_address_removed Message-ID: Sorry about the little comment I made about Derek kicking Kevin's ass on keyboards. I never really thought about that until after I said it. It was just that this guy I had never heard of before came on stage and blew us all away. They have very different styles of playing. But, if you have seen the both live, then you will know what I am talking about. Derek has a much better concert play than Kevin did. Kevin is probably better in the studio but I would have to go with Derek live. Sorry to have ruffled any feathers of you die hard Kevin Moore fans. :) Jerry ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 25 Sep 1995 13:01:32 -0600 From: E. Waldron To: email_address_removed Message-ID: All of the DT pages on the net seem to have the guitar tablature(i know i spelled it wrong) but i was wondering if anyone out there had the piano transcriptions - particularly for SDV. Thanks elise(a really horrible guitarist but a fairly decent pianist) ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 25 Sep 1995 14:50:20 -0400 From: email_address_removed (Ryan Park) To: email_address_removed Subject: Kevin's demos; related notes Message-ID: Hello Ytsejammers! I got a tape of Kevin's demos last night. The songs are pretty good, and the lyrics are interesting. I guess I don't like Kevin's new direction that much. I've only listened to it twice - I'm sure that in a few days I'll be loving it as much as the rest of the DT albums! Song for Eric is really neat. I never heard the original a capella version, but I'm impressed with Kevin's music here. The Space-Dye Vest demo has poor production quality and Kevin seems to mess up a lot - the chords are NOT harmonious with the music. I'm glad he changed it - the new (Awake) version is much better. I'm listening to "Roll Away the Stone" right now. It's pretty cool! And I listened to "A Change Of Seasons" all weekend. It ROCKS - quite possibly my favourite DT song (surpassing "Metropolis", "Learning to Live" and "Space-Dye Vest"). The lyrics to "The Crimson Sunset" are REALLY powerful - Mike's writing is great! How I first got into Dream Theater: I was a reader of The National Midnight Star, and many people kept mentioning this awesome band, this "Dream Theatre" thing. I was in California and looking at sheet music, and saw tabs for two DT albums, in "normal" notation (you know, with the treble clef and stuff - not just for guitar). I realized that I should check this band out, but I didn't buy any DT-related merchandise. When I got back to Iowa, I bought Awake and was hooked after the 6:00 drum roll!! See ya! |> |> Ryan Park |\ | email_address_removed ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 25 Sep 1995 19:37:53 -0600 (CST) From: "Richard Karsmakers" To: email_address_removed Subject: Some news, views and queries Message-ID: Hi there! First of all I'd like to reproduce the zillionth "ACos" EP review here. Not because I want to be the zillionth who throws in his $0.02, but because this review will actually appear in a magazine. I wonder if there are other people on the list who have the same opinion about the EP. Maybe the hype was just too much. The bit below is about 80% of the review, the bit about the title song. The other stuff has been reviewed enough, I guess... THE "ACoS" REVIEW Most prominent on this album is the 23'06" epic song "A Change of Seasons", taking up almost half of the total playing length. For those of you who have heard me raving on about this song in earlier issues of "ST News" (as well as this time's "Concert Reviews" and a bootleg CD review a bit further down), you will find it easy to understand that I've been looking forward to this EP quite a lot. "A Change of Seasons" was originally written in 1989 and to be included on "Images and Words". It didn't make it on there. The song has since been played live twice during the "Images and Words" tour, during which it soon got cult status. Every real Dream Theater fan has the "The Dance of Eternity" version of the song, available on several different bootleg as well as the "Subconscious" collection CD made by people of the Internet "Ytsejam" mailing list. In May this year the band spent some time rewriting and rehearsing, then finally did what many of the dedicated fans had wanted them to do all the time: Record the song on an official CD. "A Change of Seasons", well, is the best song Dream Theater have ever written. However, the version on the EP is rather different from the live one. For starters it's a bit slower. The vocals are a lot less passionate, which is probably the biggest con I can mention about this version (they even threw out the vocal climax of the "The Dance of Eternity" version, the "PLEASE DON'T GO!"). A big pro is the fact that some of the segments are so heavy you can flatten unflattenable objects with it. I would preferred them to have recorded the song in one go and then add the acoustic guitar bits, for the production seems pretty inconsistent. The heavieness is sometimes lost considerably. And new keyboardists Derek Sherinian? He plays his organ Hammond-style most of the song, Deep Purple style, but at the end of the song really lets it rip in a style more similar to previous keyboardist Kevin Moore. But I have to say Kevin was a f*@king genius and I really miss the subtle and very emotional layer under the song, especially during the last bits of the "V. Another World" segment. So "A Change of Seasons", though a worthy carrier of the flame on this EP, is not quite what I'd expected and hoped it would be. For those who have never heard the bootleg version I guess it's an excellent song, but for me it just seems a bit sacriligeous that they changed a few bits rather too much, that James LaBrie doesn't scream his lungs out where he should, and that they didn't, well, convince Kevin to come back for a stint. I for one am intensely glad I have both versions. The emotion- laden one on "The Dance of Eternity", and this more refined one. THE NEWS Yes, for those of you who waded through this post there is also some news. There is good news and bad news. The bad news is that the alleged release of the "Perfect Strangers" CD single is a myth, at least until the end of November. So non-Japanese will have to wait until that time at least. The good news is that the entire Ronny Scott's gig will be featured on a full-length video to be released in December. That's the Dutch release date, obtained through Warner Records (also the same source that told me the CD single won't happen, at least not for a while). If you'll allow me to speculate a bit, it's conceivable that this single *might* be released around that time. TO THE JAPANESE Has any of you already won one of those 1000-copy limited edition bonus CD singles? Comments? QUESTION TO BOOTLEG PEOPLE When will there be a version of the bootleg list more recent than January 1995? Please? ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 25 Sep 1995 15:32:31 -0500 (CDT) From: email_address_removed To: email_address_removed Subject: bunch of stuff Message-ID: Hi fellow ‘jammers! Just thought it’s time for me to post again since I have something to say! :) Anyway, first off, Airdance, I’m curious to know if you’ve spoken to Kevin lately and if so, what’s him opinion of ACoS? Someone mentioned that the cover for ACoS was relatively simple as opposed to Awake and I&W. True, but let’s remember 2 things: 1 its not a full length album (by DT’s standards) and 2 the cover represents only 1 song as opposed to Awake which has some reference to each of the 11 songs hidden in the cover and I&W which has some reference to the 8 songs on it. BTW, it may not be as complex as the others, but I like it and it is more complex than either the HYF or CP covers from Rush. And speaking of Rush, for all you fellow Rushies who may not have seen this on the NMS, someone (not me) posted that there is a pro-shot vid of a CP show that’s starting to circulate - sound and video are reportedly much better than the pro-shot Presto vid from the same venue. I don’t have it but I’ll keep everyone up to date on it. And one last thing: I was the compulsive idiot who made suggestions about getting together a whole buncha petitions. Thanx (and I really do mean that) for some of you pointing out that we shouldn’t push our luck - I needed to cool off! However, one little thing that I would love to see is for DT to have an official bootleg label to release stuff to us big-time fans. As one person pointed out, Marillion and Fish have both done this (I’m sure much to Marillion-fans delight) even though it may not be the most cost effective. Sometime down the road (not anytime soon), I think it would be nice to see an official boot of such stuff as the Majesty demos, live shows, etc. Being that some members are against bootlegs, this would be a way to combat boots as they’d be able to chose the performances to release (since that’s one of the main complaints). Mike P, if your reading this, keep this in mind. :) Sorry if I sound annoying or like I just contradicted myself (by apologizing and then mentioning about a boot label) - I didn’t try to. Ok, I’ll shut up now! Scott Hansen email_address_removed ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 25 Sep 1995 15:43:15 -0400 (EDT) From: Ross Specter To: email_address_removed Subject: A recent DT experience Message-ID: Hi, I just thought I'd preface this by saying I'm pretty new to DT and the jam. Before last weekend, I had only heard Images and Words, which I borrowed from a friend. Then, after talking to a couple of people, I decided to get ACoS. When I was in the mall, I wandered into a music store after already having purchased the album at another store. I heard one of the guys behind the counter say "...a 23 minute title track, who do they think they are, King Crimson?" I said are you talking about DT, and the guys behind the counter started cracking up and said yeah, have you heard the new ep yet? I told them I had just bought it and didn't have time to listen to it yet, and they said, "Well, you're going to now" and proceded to play it over the store's speaker system. I thought it was pretty cool. Ross ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 25 Sep 1995 13:16:22 -0700 From: email_address_removed (John Hough) To: email_address_removed Subject: ACOS Poll Message-ID: Hey All! I just wanted to remind everyone that I am still taking answers to my ACOS poll questions. I haven't gotten that many responses though! I plan on sending the results to the jam after I have a lot of responses then in about 6 months or so I will do it again to see if everyone's opinions have changed. PLEASE SEND ME YOUR VOTES NOW! I also want your 1st opinions of the cd that is why I am doing it right away. Here are the questions for those who don't know; 1. From 1 to 10, how do you rate this CD? 2. Which section of the song ACOS is your Favorite? ( I,II,III,IV,V,VI, or VII) 3. Which cover is your favorite? (Please be specific, don't just say "The Big Medley", say "Carry on...") Thanks again to those who have replied already. I Hope to hear from EVERYONE! Later ^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^ John Hough email_address_removed "Until I saw the desire for revenge, my heart never once went astray" "As long as I have to die in the attempt, then there is no reason" "To Live Forever" ---- Dream Theater ^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^ ------------------------------ End of YTSEJAM Digest 980 *************************