YTSEJAM Digest 940 Today's Topics: 1) Damn The Machine by "Brian K. Adams" 2) Japanese release and such by email_address_removed (Monty Newberry) 3) GFTPM Review of "ACoS" EP by email_address_removed (Matt Mommaerts) 4) RE: Actual Dream Theater stuff by email_address_removed (Matt Mommaerts) 5) ACOS on Elektra Label by email_address_removed (gary ake) 6) Wait a minute! by Brian Wherry 7) progday emergency by email_address_removed (KELLY) 8) ACOS in Japan? (Sorry for length) by Kaoru Kobayashi 9) Illuvatar by email_address_removed 10) ACOS CD by Michael Backof 11) Compilation Tapes by Michael Backof 12) Threshold, Iluvatar by Michael Backof 13) Origins, or How I Got Interested In DT by email_address_removed (Rain King) 14) Voivod (ANDTC) by email_address_removed (Rain King) 15) PROGDAY 95 in Los Angeles! by email_address_removed (Dr. Mosh) 16) DT Poll 3 september 1995 by Eddy Huisman 17) Origins, or How I Got Interested In DT by Brian Nielsen 18) :Learning to live & ACOS by email_address_removed (Craig Erskine) 19) Re: YTSEJAM digest 939 by "Brian V. Cox" 20) Trades... by email_address_removed ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Sat, 2 Sep 1995 16:09:14 -0400 (EDT) From: "Brian K. Adams" To: email_address_removed Subject: Damn The Machine Message-ID: I noticed people recently talking about Damn The Machine. I got the album when I read a review of it in Guitar For The Practicing Musician (GFTPM) and they compared them to Dream Theater. I see a similarity but not quite as much as the author suggested. Anyway, If any of you want a copy of it mail me and let me know I'd be glad to work something out with you to get you a copy so you can review it for yourselves. Brian email_address_removed ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 2 Sep 1995 16:15:06 -0500 From: email_address_removed (Monty Newberry) To: email_address_removed Subject: Japanese release and such Message-ID: I would at least like to get copies of the bonus tracks on the Japanese release of ACoS. That would be fine for me. As long as I could hear it. Though obtaining an actual copy of the CD would be nice. Also, looks like I may just have to jet over to the store and pick up the latest GFtPM. Maybe I'll just read the review, though. I don't think I really want a picture of two members of the Chilipeppers kissing each other laying around my house or dorm room :). See y'all later. God bless you guys. You rule. Dale R. Newberry ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 2 Sep 1995 16:26:15 -0500 From: email_address_removed (Matt Mommaerts) To: email_address_removed Subject: GFTPM Review of "ACoS" EP Message-ID: >While I'm thinking of it, one thing of note: "Awake" was released on >East-West records (division of Atco), while the article lists "ACoS" as >being released on Elektra.....is "A Change of Seasons" also "A Change of >Labels??" Hmmmm.... A few months ago, Elektra and EastWest merged. They are one company but with a few different names. :-) Matt ************************************************************* ** Big deal, I have a .sig let's party or something ** ** ** ** email_address_removed ** ** "Pinky, you are a threat to tolerance" - The Brain ** ************************************************************* ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 2 Sep 1995 16:27:40 -0500 From: email_address_removed (Matt Mommaerts) To: email_address_removed Subject: RE: Actual Dream Theater stuff Message-ID: >When will we get another GALACTIC COWBOYS album?? It's in the making right now! The new album should be out early next year! (info from Metal Blade) Matt ************************************************************* ** Big deal, I have a .sig let's party or something ** ** ** ** email_address_removed ** ** "Pinky, you are a threat to tolerance" - The Brain ** ************************************************************* ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 2 Sep 1995 17:45:18 -0400 From: email_address_removed (gary ake) To: email_address_removed Subject: ACOS on Elektra Label Message-ID: Just thought I would let you know that East/West Records and Atco Records are sub labels of Elektra Records. Elektra owns both of them. Can't wait for ACOS. SEEYA ........ Gary Ake ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 2 Sep 1995 16:46:31 -0400 (EDT) From: Brian Wherry To: DT List Subject: Wait a minute! Message-ID: Allright! We've got ACoS reviews in magazines, and people with ACoS advance copies or whatever all over the place! Can I just say that I'm really jealous!! Where'd you all get them? Anyone wanna part with it? :) Anxiously waiting for Sept. 26th, Brian ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 02 Sep 1995 20:53:54 +0600 From: email_address_removed (KELLY) To: email_address_removed Subject: progday emergency Message-ID: hey everyone... this is William Bajzek (email_address_removed). i got a ride from pgh to blacksburg va to my girlfriend's place, and we were going to go to progday in chapel hill NC tomorrow (sunday), but she had the car checked out and its not safe to drive it that far or we risk $600 in damage. if anyone's passing through the blacksburg area on their way, we'd *really* appreciate a ride. i'll even buy you a ticket. you can respond to this account or call us at 540-552-7106. thanks, and *please* help us - bill ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 03 Sep 1995 08:42:00 +0900 From: Kaoru Kobayashi To: email_address_removed Subject: ACOS in Japan? (Sorry for length) Message-ID: Hi all, There is a few certain information on Japanese version of ACOS. Well, it will be released on this 10th in Japan certainly and this is all I know about it. I guess I will be able to post about the tracks or something special (if there will be) after I get mine. Dream Theater will perform in Japan this autumn. Confirmed dates are as follows: Oct 26th 1995 Osaka (Koseinenkin Hall) Oct 28th 1995 Tokyo (NHK Hall) Tickets are now on sale. Perhaps I'll go to both shows. I have a handbill of these shows with ACOS information, and it says ACOS Japanese version will be released with an application paper (??) for limited single which includes 'Tears' from Ronnie Scotts' gig. Only 1000 people will be able to get the Tears CD. But I don't know whether it's true or not. Personally I think this is very unfair and stupid plan. (I'm the one who hates like 'bonus track for only Japanese' plan.) The handbill also has track information of ACOS. 1. A Change of Seasons I. The Crimson Sunrise II. Innocence III. Carpe Diem IV. The Darkest of Winters' V. Another World VI. The Inevitable Summer VII. The Crimson Sunset 2. Funeral for a Friend - Love Lies Bleeding (Elton John) 3. Perfect Strangers (Deep Purple) 4. The Rover - Achilles Last Stand - The Song Remains the Same (Led Zeppelin) 5. The Big Medley I. In the Flesh? (Pink Floyd) II. Carry on Wayward Son (Kansas) III. Bohemian Rhapsody (Queen) VI. Lovin', Touchin', Squeezin' (Journey) V. Cruise Control (Dregs) VI. Turn It on Again (Genesis) Well, it's written in Japanese (Katakana), so I'm not confident with spelling. When I get other information, I'll post here! :) ** Desperate to fall, behind the great wall, that separates us all.. ** ** Kaoru Kobayashi(From Japan)<09/03 08:28>GCH06672@niftyserve.or.jp ** P.S. I'm up and around now. Thank you all who gave me kindly words, I will be able to come back here soon. ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 3 Sep 1995 00:15:43 -0400 From: email_address_removed To: email_address_removed Subject: Illuvatar Message-ID: I've seen a lot of talk about these guys lately and I've been meaning to check them out for some time. Can anyone tell me the easiest way to get a hold of the CD? Much appreciated. Please respond to me directly. Thanks!! ================================== Ghost email_address_removed "I want to do adverts for American Express cards, talk shows, and prime time TV!" ================================== ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 3 Sep 1995 02:19:01 -0400 (EDT) From: Michael Backof To: email_address_removed Subject: ACOS CD Message-ID: Hello, A quick question about the ACOS EP that is due out in September... 1. How do you get on a list to get a pre-release CD? Do all of you work for radio stations? Know someone at the record label? I'm just curious. 2. Are the cover tunes live from the Ronnie Scott's gig or are they studio versions of those tunes? Thanks. Mike email_address_removed ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 3 Sep 1995 02:24:14 -0400 (EDT) From: Michael Backof To: email_address_removed Subject: Compilation Tapes Message-ID: Hello Jammers, I am still planning to do a compilation tape of prog-metal for the Ytsejam list to provide free promotion for unsigned bands who I think many of you would enjoy and to spread the word about signed bands who are making great music and need your support. All of the songs on the tape are favorites of mine, so I am not doing this solely for promotional purposes. I am having artwork made up for the liners and I am including information on each band that is included, plus e-mail addresses for their management, and snail addresses so you can pick up the CDs. I have talked with some band members on the list and they are for it. I plan to work on this over the next month and have some ready by the end of the September as school allows. Any questions? Please e-mail me. Later, Mike email_address_removed ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 3 Sep 1995 02:15:27 -0400 (EDT) From: Michael Backof To: email_address_removed Subject: Threshold, Iluvatar Message-ID: Hello Jammers, Just a few thoughts and comments: 1. I have found myself listening to a lot of Threshold recently. Wounded Land is OK, Psychedelicatessen is really cool and I just picked up the live album Livedelica which is really intense. I think most Dream Theater fans can't go wrong with Psychedelicatessen or Livedelica, lots of long songs, interlocking guitar parts (they have two guitarists), good vocals (they are an English band and the lead singer sings with a bit of an accent... obviously), the songwriting is pretty good, it should be great by the time the follow-up to the second album comes out. The songwriting is a lot better than Shadow Gallery for those who didn't like them due to writing ability though not quite as good as Dream Theater. Wounded Land has a lot of environmental lyrics, where Psych. has a lot of songs about the struggle of the soul and corruption of individuals. Album info for those who want to order Title Label Number Wounded Land Giant Electric Pea 1005 Psychedelicatessen Giant Electric Pea 1014 Livedelica Giant Electric Pea 1015 2. For those who asked, Iluvatar has a new album coming out at the end of September and they have a release party planned in Baltimore, I can get info, it is general admission and there is no cover. I was talking to the lead singer (Glen) about this last Wednesday. The new album is entitled Childhood and they will be selling it at the premiere. Kinesis records sells them direct through and mail and Chris at Of Sound Mind will have them in stock. I can help you contact either of these people. More to come.... Mike email_address_removed ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 2 Sep 1995 23:12:06 -0700 From: email_address_removed (Rain King) To: email_address_removed Subject: Origins, or How I Got Interested In DT Message-ID: Date sent: 02-Sept-1995 To all Ytsejammers: This is my first post after a few weeks of initial "voyeurism," so I hope all goes as it is "supposed" to. First off I must thank one Mike Bahr for his post in the last 'Jam which got my own blood pumping. He really knows how to get people to speak, eh? Just to let you all know where I am coming and going, Mike got my blood flowing in a positive way. First off, Mike had said something about "Pull Me Under" in his Top 5 Essential Dream Theater Moments being the reason for why 90% of us listen to DT. I don't know about the rest of you, but he "hit the nail right between the eyes" with me. The first time I heard PMU I only caught the tail end and I thought, "Wow! That was some pretty cool schtuff!" I couldn't wait 'til I heard it again. The thing that majorly pisses me off nowadays (as well as soon after radio stations had their fill of all 8 minutes and 11 seconds of it) is that whenever I hear the song (two days ago on 96.7 KCAL based in Redlands, CA), the radio stations have a jacked up re-mix that slaps the last two lines on the song and fade out before the "Dun dun dun" part at the very end. I know this has probably been bitched about before (like a very looong time ago), but it irks me every time I hear the stations do that. ARRGGGHHHH!!!!! Pardon me. Anyway, I was first intro'd to the rest of I&W when a "acquantaince" in one of my classes made a copy of it for me. He told me, "If you like [PMU] a lot, then you might not like some of the other songs...they get kinda lame [in reference to "Another Day" and "Surrounded"]. By the way, I left of a really wussy song [turned out to be "Wait For Sleep"]. I don't think you'll mind." Obviously this guy was not a "true" DT fan. ;) All I can really say is y'all better have your I&W long-boxes framed and mounted on a wall like I do. Those will DEFINITELY be collector's items someday, if not already. Two more additions to the "Essential Moments", and these need to be listened to with headphones for full effect. "Take The Time": start at 6:30 where the slow part starts. you'll feel the build-up around 6:46. "Here it comes!" at 7:04, then..."Ah!!!" at 7:13. Awesome, simply awesome. The other one, and I know we ALL know this one, "Voices": "Spider in the window" line at 1:24. That "spider" effect sends shivers up and down my spine! I know this is getting long, but please bear with me and I promise I will never let another post get this long. Well, I'll try, at least. ;) Movies: BraveHeart is THE best. A definite buy on laserdisc. My friend said she had nightmares after watching "Lord of Illusions". Uh-uh. Sorry. Ain't nothin' to those moments of insomnia I experienced after watching 3 hours of people getting hacked to death. Hey, this s**t REALLY happened! Well, most of it, at least. That is the truly scary part. And check out the score...that, too, was awesome. Well, I got more, but I will do it in a separate post, 'cuz it is a new thread will ABSOLUTELY no DT content. Sorry. Thanks for listening. --*-- David G. Swanston, IV | "Every man dies, but not every man E-Mail:email_address_removed | truly lives." -- BraveHeart ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 2 Sep 1995 23:42:33 -0700 From: email_address_removed (Rain King) To: email_address_removed Subject: Voivod (ANDTC) Message-ID: Date sent: 03-Sept-1995 I know I owe someone for the paranthsied part in the subject, but I can't remember who...sorry. BTW, the "A" is for "Absolutely," like I promised. Anyone ever hear of the group "Voivod"? These guys are truly whacked. The lead singers vocals are trippy, like a twisted Dave Mustaine lowered one octave. I think the best "label" for their music is progressive/Canadian/punk/ metal. For the adventurous: check 'em out. They've been around for awhile, since '84 or '86. Their old stuff is a little bit too much for me, quite mind- numbing. But check out "The Outer Limits" on MCA's Mechanic sub-label. It is all about aliens, space travel, enocunters, take-overs and the like. (Which reminds me, "We Are NOT Alone".) It is loaded, in the "traditional" progres- sive motif, with intersting meter changes and mixed moods. One of the best songs is "Jack Luminous", their 17:26 epic that is actually three songs in one. It is really jammin'. It is also loaded with 3-D pix, one per song, and comes with its own handy-dandy little "Voivod" 3-D glasses. So, if you have a little extra pocket change (make sure your local record store has not removed the sticker that says "The outer limit you should pay for this CD is $10.98" [$5.98 for cassette]...Sam Goody is notorious for this...they removed the "$11.98" manufacturer's sticker of the Sponge's album Rotting Pinata and replaced it with their own $15.99 pricetag), check 'em out! BTW, if there is anybody out there who already knows about Voivod, do you know where I can pick up their album "Angel Rat"? It is the only CD out of their 10 years of existence which is "No Longer Produced", even though it was released in 1991, I believe. Anyone know why? Well, that's all for now. I am going to look through my CD collection for other "oldie's" which I can recommend to y'all. Take it easy, and to all you in Cal, don't let the heat get to you. ;) --*-- David G. Swanston, IV | E-Mail:email_address_removed "This planet Earth...it's where I live/It's where I'll die...I do believe" -- Voivod, "Wrong-Way Street" ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 3 Sep 1995 01:29:24 PDT From: email_address_removed (Dr. Mosh) To: email_address_removed Subject: PROGDAY 95 in Los Angeles! Message-ID: Progday 95 in Los Angeles will be November 11th and 12th! It's $35 for both days... call 714-894-5756 for info! -The Doc -- #$%*#$*@ REAL: email_address_removed + VIRTUAL: email_address_removed *@#$*@#$ *$%&%#$* The Dream Theater Archives: ftp.netcom.com: /pub/dr/drkhoe/dt &*@#$*@$ **%^$#$% WWW: "ftp://ftp.netcom.com/pub/dr/drkhoe/www/dthome.html" #$**@#*$ *$*$*$*# Reality Enhancement Software - Engineering Reality *$&#*#@$ ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 3 Sep 1995 14:55:38 +0200 From: Eddy Huisman To: email_address_removed Subject: DT Poll 3 september 1995 Message-ID: Hello Jammers, Here's the updated version of the Dream Theater Songs Poll. I've had 39 entries so far and I still want more. I've read stuff from a lot of people on the Jam who didn't send me their DT Top 3 songs. So please do and make this list even better. *************************************************************** * DREAM THEATER POLL 3 September 1995 * *************************************************************** Pos. Song #1 #2 #3 Total ---- ---- -- -- -- ----- 1. (1) LEARNING TO LIVE 6 6 2 32 2. (5) Scarred 5 6 4 31 3. (2) Metropolis 3 5 6 25 4. (6) A Change of Seasons 5 3 2 23 5. (4) Voices 5 3 0 21 6. (3) Take the Time 4 3 2 20 7. (9) Under a Glass Moon 2 2 4 14 8. (7) Surrounded 2 2 2 12 9. (8) Erotomania 3 0 1 10 10.(15) Only a Matter of Time 1 1 1 6 (15) The Killing Hand 1 1 1 6 11.(10) Another Day 0 3 0 6 12.(11) 6:00 0 1 3 5 13.(12) The Mirror 1 0 1 4 (12) Lie 1 0 1 4 14.(12) Space Dye-Vest 1 0 0 3 (-) The Ones who Help to.. 1 0 0 3 15.(13) Wait for Sleep 0 1 1 3 (15) Lifting Shadows of a Dream 0 1 1 3 16.(14) Afterlife 0 1 0 2 (-) Silent Man 0 1 0 2 16. (-) A Fortune in Lies 0 0 2 2 17. (-) Don't Look Past Me 0 0 1 1 (-) Pull Me Under 0 0 1 1 (15) Ytsejam 0 0 1 1 *************************************************************** Please send any comments, corrections, suggestions or new entries to: __ __ __ __ / `-' / ,,, Eddy Huisman ... \ `-' \ |[====|||||||||||[:::} ****************** {:::]|||||||||||====]| \__.-._\ ``` ehuisman@xs4all.nl ''' /_.-.__/ ...If at first you don't succeed, call it v1.0! ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 3 Sep 1995 21:33:58 +0200 From: Brian Nielsen To: email_address_removed Subject: Origins, or How I Got Interested In DT Message-ID: >>>>> "Rain" == Rain King writes: < This is the radio edit of the original post :) The intro is missing!> Rain> Anyway, I was first Rain> intro'd to the rest of I&W when a "acquantaince" in one of Rain> my classes made a copy of it for me. He told me, "If you Rain> like [PMU] a lot, then you might not like some of the other Rain> songs...they get kinda lame [in reference to "Another Day" Rain> and "Surrounded"]. By the way, I left of a really wussy Rain> song [turned out to be "Wait For Sleep"]. I don't think Rain> you'll mind." Obviously this guy was not a "true" DT fan. Uhmm, I have kind of a confession to make. I originally borrowed I&W from a friend and only had a tape with 45 minutes free. That was just enough for PMU, TTT, Metropolis, UaGM and LTL. Is it a coincidence that it was certain three songs that was left out? I guess not. Before anyone presses the flame button I have to add that when I got the CD I realized that I had made a mistake leaving those songs off my tape. So I hope I still can consider myself a true fan. < Damn, they cut the solo too :) > Rain> Movies: BraveHeart is THE best. A definite Rain> buy on laserdisc. My friend said she had nightmares after Rain> watching "Lord of Illusions". Uh-uh. Sorry. Ain't nothin' Rain> to those moments of insomnia I experienced after watching 3 Rain> hours of people getting hacked to death. Hey, this s**t Rain> REALLY happened! Well, most of it, at least. That is the Rain> truly scary part. And check out the score...that, too, was Rain> awesome. Well, I got more, but I will do it in a separate Rain> post, 'cuz it is a new thread will ABSOLUTELY no DT content. Rain> Sorry. Thanks for listening. Agreed, Braveheart is awesome. Kind of impressive considering that it's only Mr. Gibsons second movie as a director. A movie made for the theatres (especielly the Dream Theater :) -- +------------------------------------------------+ | Brian Nielsen | | Department of Mathematics and Computer Science | | Aalborg University, Denmark | | | | email: email_address_removed.dk | +------------------------------------------------+ ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 3 Sep 95 15:04:40 From: email_address_removed (Craig Erskine) To: email_address_removed Subject: :Learning to live & ACOS Message-ID: Has anyone noticed that on the Images and Words album the song LTL is written in larger text than the rest of the songs?? Also, I was telneting to CDEUROPE.COM and I searched for some Dream Theater CD's and found that Holland has a version of ACOS all ready out. I have placed orders with CDEUROPE before and have received my order in less than two weeks. I noticed this near the end of August. It may be possible to get a copy of ACOS before it hits here in the US. I'm just going to wait the three weeks though. But for people that can't wait, CDEUROPE.COM has ACOS for $21.95. email_address_removed ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 3 Sep 1995 15:39:25 -0500 (CDT) From: "Brian V. Cox" To: email_address_removed Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 939 Message-ID: > From: John Mastin > Subject: Bad traders > > Has anyone heard from Brian Cox? I ordered a few boots from him and he > disappeared. No email from him. No boots either. > What gives? i am here. i havent gotten any email from you in a long time. i have been in the process of moving to a new place, (same email though) and i have a new address and phone number, which are both on my web page. i was away from my acct for a couple of weeks, home in houston, but my home number and address are on the web page, also. i never "disappeared". when i was moving all the tapes i needed to make for people got packed up, and i am slowly unpacking them and gettign them out. there are about 4 or 5 people's i believe. in the future why dont you email me or call me before claiming that i have disappeared?? if you look, i have posted recently to the yj, and i have posted alot to alt.music.dream-theater and alt.rnr.m.p email me and i will let you know what is up with your tapes... **always looking for rush/dream theater/queensryche/king's x bootlegs** ============================================================================= Voices repeating me, Brian V. Cox Voices discussing me, "Feeling threatened? email_address_removed "Others steal your thoughts We reflect your hopes Dream Theater- They're not confined and fears." A Mind Beside Itself: II. Voices Within your mind." ============================================================================= check out my new homepage: http://tam2000.tamu.edu/~bvc8995 ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 3 Sep 1995 17:02:37 -0400 From: email_address_removed To: email_address_removed Subject: Trades... Message-ID: The following appeared in Ytsejam #939: >Has anyone heard from Brian Cox? I ordered a few boots from him and he disappeared. No email from him. No boots either. What gives?< Today, I just sent him my second e-mail message in two weeks (have yet to receive a reply to the first one, so I'm going with benefit of the doubt and sending another one...) I sent him a batch of blanks in mid-July and haven't received anything yet. :/ Hey, guys, if you're going to be late with something, can you at least send some e-mail? Thanks! Jen -- "Could we see clearer in a virtual reality?" - Magellan "I am the beat of your pulse/the computer word made flesh" - Queensryche email_address_removed email_address_removed ------------------------------ End of YTSEJAM Digest 940 *************************