YTSEJAM Digest 935 Today's Topics: 1) Re: Petruccis, guitar lessons by Michael Kevin Martin 2) Trivia by email_address_removed (David B. Kuznick) 3) Iluvatar, Cygnus by Michael Backof 4) lessons are the way to go by email_address_removed (Marc Respass) 5) metropolis from NC by William T Bajzek 6) Re: JP Solos by email_address_removed (James Garrett) 7) Musical Jammers by email_address_removed 8) mike bahr's universe by email_address_removed (Paul Fini) 9) Lessons by email_address_removed (Jason Gianni) 10) Re: YTSEJAM digest 932 by email_address_removed 11) Rush and DT similarities by "Ryan Park" 12) MB and the 'Net by email_address_removed (Bracken Odiorne) 13) ACOS in Holland? by Jeff "Jeffy" Seifert 14) solo in Metropolis? by Aviad Hay 15) WAKE UP! / Dead or Alive / JL bad days. by Aviad Hay 16) Acoustic Dreams Update by Michael Bahr 17) Cygnus update (from the Rush list.) by Michael Bahr ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 28 Aug 1995 09:23:09 -0500 (CDT) From: Michael Kevin Martin To: email_address_removed Subject: Re: Petruccis, guitar lessons Message-ID: I apologize to all if I gave misinformation regarding J. Petrucci's relation to Roxy and Maxine. I read an interview a few years ago in which J. Petrucci was asked about them, and he alluded to their being in the same family. Perhaps this was a figment of the writer's imagination? I was simply basing my statements on this interview. I do know that Maxine and Roxy are most certainly related, however. Regarding the question of whether or not guitar lessons are worth the time and money, I would have to say that during the first couple of years, yes, they are. My first 6 or 7 years playing guitar I took lessons, and was instructed in many different musical styles, as well as the personal styles of the instructors. This did a great deal in the broadening of my playing abilities, as well as expanding my musical tastes. After I had taken most all of the lessons that were available to me, I simply practiced on my own. Barring a physical impairment, most anyone can get to John Petrucci's skill level if they are willing to put in the time and effort required. Practice sessions lasting 7 to 10 hours can do wonders for endurance and "muscle memory", as well as sparking ideas! Michael ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 28 Aug 95 10:27:12 -0400 From: email_address_removed (David B. Kuznick) To: email_address_removed Subject: Trivia Message-ID: > Date: Fri, 25 Aug 1995 16:19:09 -0700 > From: email_address_removed (Randall Braun) > > Another Yes trivia question: > The original guitarist for Yes left after the second album, Who is he Peter Banks David Kuznick - email_address_removed (preferred) or email_address_removed So storm through the barricades and raise your hands up high All of you pull down your walls, help those too scared to try Don't let them tell you it's only a dream, for never to dream is to die. Don't close your eyes. - "For Your Eyes" - ARAGON ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 28 Aug 1995 11:08:21 -0400 (EDT) From: Michael Backof To: email_address_removed Subject: Iluvatar, Cygnus Message-ID: Hello, For the person who was wondering, Iluvatar's new album entitled Childhood is due out the Second week of September. I have heard a couple of songs from it and it makes the first album pale by comparison. For those who are not familiar with this band, they are a prog-rock band from Baltimore in the Yes / Genesis vein of music with several epic tracks. Lots of old keyboards high in the mix on the new album, the guitarist uses a lot of Hackett-style riffs on the first album, but he breaks out into more solos on the new album, vocalist is good with a higher-end voice. I also know the guitarist, vocalist, and keyboardest (and the ex-drummer), so I thought I would plug them. I started reading the reviews of the new Cygnus boot and a personal peeve of mine is fadeouts during songs. I will try to remain calm. I have that Chicago show and that didn't sound all that bad, the sound quality is probably pretty good, I mean it would have to be exceptional to be better than RnR92, which is a DAT recording. Still a big thanks to Mike for making this stuff available, a boot is a boot, so expectations need to be held low. Later, Mike email_address_removed ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 28 Aug 1995 11:30:48 -0500 From: email_address_removed (Marc Respass) To: email_address_removed Subject: lessons are the way to go Message-ID: "Adam m. Cook" wrote: > Last, how many Jammers are musicians? There's been a lot of > talk on the guitar newsgroups lately about whether or not > lessons are the way to go. Concidering that all of DT are > well educated musicians I would like to know your opinions > on this...also how long you think it will take YOU to play > all of John's solo's in Erotomania...:) I'm a bass player and I have to vote YES on lessons. There is a common misconception that lessons can be bad for you. There is no way that learning more about music could ever hurt you. Take some lessons. Learn some good technique. Get exposed to other styles and ideas. Learn some scales and chords. All good stuff. After 2 years of private lessons, 1.5 years at Berklee, 1 year of private acoustic bass jazz lessons, 1 year of private acoustic bass classical lessons, 2.5 years of classical music school (ear training, piano, harmony, orchestral playing), I still like to listen to lots of heavy rock bands. Not all are playing the most amazing complex stuff but it's good. It's just good to listen to and no amount of musical training will take that away if that's what you like. I don't think you implied this with that question but it's something that I needed to say :). Lessons are a good idea :). ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ + Marc Respass email_address_removed + + http://www.iii.net/users/mer/welcome.html + +----------------------------------------------------------+ + Check out the Joel Rivard Group home page at + + http://www.iii.net/users/mer/joelpage.html + ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 28 Aug 1995 12:33:57 -0400 (EDT) From: William T Bajzek To: email_address_removed Subject: metropolis from NC Message-ID: i listened 2 one of their songs at the sights and sounds booth at the rock and roll expo here a few months ago and i was very impressed. if i have any money left after progday i'm going to order it along with black jester's debut if you want to know ------william bajzek------ and if you want to know just what i see ---http://phoebe.dws.acs.cmu.edu/--- where we're going look at yourself --------------~wb2a/-------------- keep your distance and dont ask me ---------guitars, aepithex--------- and dont follow me ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 28 Aug 95 10:26:28 PDT From: email_address_removed (James Garrett) To: email_address_removed Subject: Re: JP Solos Message-ID: Hey Jammers, Here are my $.02. . . Although I love to hear a great ad lib solo, I think that a written lead (technically a solo if performed only by one player) is at least or even more impressive than ad lib solo. The ability to play a written line and then repeat it later in the song should not be overlooked. When I first heard DT, JP's runs in Pull Me Under are what caught my attention. Also, I believe that playing in sync with other musicians takes more skill than merely showing off what you can do by yourself. Each member of DT is a great musician; however, it is their ability to play together that sets them apart from the rest. James ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 28 Aug 1995 15:21:11 -0400 From: email_address_removed To: email_address_removed Subject: Musical Jammers Message-ID: Adam Cook writes: > Last, how many Jammers are musicians? There's been a lot of talk on the > guitar newsgroups lately about whether or not lessons are the way to go. > Concidering that all of DT are well educated musicians I would like to > know your opinions on this...also how long you think it will take YOU to > play all of John's solo's in Erotomania...:) > Being that I am an ex-keyboardist (well, still am, but VERY rusty.. :D ) I would say that whatever instrument you take up, you should take lessons. Not only they teach you the ins and outs of the instrument itself but any shortcuts that can help your technique. Also too, if you learn to read music instead of just depending on tabs, you will open yourself up to more possibilities and not find yourself crippled if a certain piece of music you like isn't available in tab. I have a friend that can play by ear and by tab but he always tells me that he wished that he would have taken lessons and learned how to read music. He tells me that eventhough he can play by ear (for the most part), he still is at a disadvantage playing. How long will it take me to play all of John's solo's in Erotomania? On guitar : forever. On keyboards : close to forever (I told you, I'm rusty. :D ) On computer : as fast as I can type in the notes. Ha, ha, ha. Do I still count as a musician?? :D Johnny member of the YLHB (Ytsejam Long-Haired Brotherhood) ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 28 Aug 1995 16:33:58 -0400 From: email_address_removed (Paul Fini) To: email_address_removed Subject: mike bahr's universe Message-ID: I was just catching up on reading 'jams and wanted to respond to a few things: >1. I have some questions. I knew DT by WDADU album and I like "Status >Seeker" very much. I went their concert in Japan three times but I've never >heard them play this song. Have they ever played the song in the US or >anywhere ? If so, are there any live recordings ? I want to know about >other songs they haven't played in Japan i. e. Light Fuse and Get Away, The >Ones Who Help to Set the Sun, Innocence Faded, Scarred, Space-Dye Vest. When I read this, I thought: hah! no problem... Mike's going to be making his "When Dream and Today Unite" CD around X-mas, and a lot of people will all the happier for it. Then I read this from Mike a few 'jams later: >would have meant something. Don't worry, it won't affect Acoustic Dreams >or Cygnus (both are paid for) but if I don't find out what happened, I >won't be able to produce any more. I'll be bankrupt. To be continued... AAARRGGGHHH!!!! this cannot be true! please tell us this a joke, Mike. otherwise i will curse not only your bank but all such fat, incompetent bureaucratic financial institutions in the universe. keep us updated on the situation... we'll be thinking of ya. paul _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _-_-_-_-_- Paul T. Fini : email_address_removed _-_-_-_-_- ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 28 Aug 1995 17:38:47 -0400 From: email_address_removed (Jason Gianni) To: email_address_removed Subject: Lessons Message-ID: Hey jammers! Just want to comment about musicians and lesson taking. I've been a drummer for the last 13 years of my 22-year old life. There hasn't a day gone by that I haven't thought about studying with someone; whether it be on drumset, or classical percussion, or whatever. You never know along the line who will help you, or what TINY little secret you may pick up from a teacher that could open doors to a whole new world. Now, I have an assistantship in Penn State, which involves 75% of my time here, not studying (class-wise), but TEACHING. Being a part of the teaching world makes me realize just how important "learning from someone else" really is! In addition, seeing my students accell from week to week is almost as stimulating as seeing myself grow as a player. It's quite flaterring. So, try to put away some foolish pride on your part if you refuse to take lesson. You know, guys like Eddie Van Halen and others are, in fact, "self-taught." But, keep in mind, out of 1 billion musicians out there, there is only 1 Eddie Van Halen! Take some lessons; they WILL pay off! jason ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 28 Aug 1995 18:52:24 -0400 From: email_address_removed To: email_address_removed Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 932 Message-ID: What were Petrucci's shorts like(what were so cool about them?)? ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 27 Aug 1995 19:30:12 +0000 From: "Ryan Park" To: email_address_removed Subject: Rush and DT similarities Message-ID: Hello! Michael Bahr writes... > .. Speakin of Rush, does anyone notice the EXTREME parallels that > developed between Rush and DT where the first albums are concerned? > If I don't miss my mark, ACOS is DT's "2112". Here's hoping for > similar results. That's hoping that DT will still be around in 20 years. Let's see here... DT's first album had part of their band name in it (DREAM). Rush's first album had the band name in it (RUSH). Rush had one band member leave after the first album (the drummer). DT had one band member leave after the first album (the vocalist). The new Rush drummer was MUCH better than the old one. The new DT vocalist was MUCH better than the old one. The new Rush drummer was Canadian. The new DT vocalist was Canadian. The second DT and Rush albums had three-word titles with an unimportant (non-capitalized) word in the middle (BY and AND). The second albums had their first attempt at a long epic story (By-Tor; and Metropolis). Whoops! SOMETHING DOESN'T FIT! Rush's third album is not a very good album, considering the quality of other Rush albums. DT's third album is GREAT! The third album has another epic attempt (Erotomania-Voices-Silent Man; and the Necromancer). The fourth album has a long mega-epic as all of side one (2112 and ACOS). Well, this is all I can think of. Tell me how I am doing. |> |> Ryan Park |\ | email_address_removed ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 28 Aug 1995 20:40:31 -0600 (MDT) From: email_address_removed (Bracken Odiorne) To: email_address_removed Subject: MB and the 'Net Message-ID: Hey all, Does anyone else worry for Mike Bahr's safety? After losing his original internet account, and now this bank thing, I'm starting to have flashbacks from Sandra Bullock in "The 'Net." Not a great movie, but pretty interesting in the context of our favourite CD maker's life. Watch out Mike! They did it to her; they're going to do it to you! Outta here, Bracken "...Without music, life would be an error." Nietzsche -Twilight of the Idols- ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 28 Aug 1995 22:15:13 -0500 (CDT) From: Jeff "Jeffy" Seifert To: email_address_removed Subject: ACOS in Holland? Message-ID: According to the electronic list on CD Europe, the ACOS EP is given a release date of 8/95 from Holland, and is ready to order! Do you suppose this is just a matter of the company jumping the gun (i.e. expecting to get it soon, but not yet available), or is there something we don't know about EastWest Holland? Then again, maybe it's just Pete the Pirate selling off copies.. Jeff ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ jeff seifert, member FDIC email_address_removed ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 29 Aug 95 7:35 +0300 From: Aviad Hay To: email_address_removed Subject: solo in Metropolis? Message-ID: > Regarding John Myung's Soloing.... > > ....Not Being a BASSIST, But I am under > the impression that the short solo during > Metropolis is nothing short of SPECTACULAR! This will usually not count as a solo - this tapping pattern that repeats itself with an ascending chord progression is some sort of a Bridge, or a C-part, not a solo. Than again it depends on how you perceive the solo issue. For me (and others) a solo has contents, melody, Progression, changes in feel, basically a story. Never the less this little tapping segment IS spectacular! John uses a typical Jaco Pastorius sound for tapping (most unusual) and it comes out real good! Aviad. /--\ \__/ || || || || || \\_||_// / ## \ | ## | \______/ "To B-Quad or not to B-Quad?, that is the question" - a.h. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 29 Aug 95 7:49 +0300 From: Aviad Hay To: email_address_removed Subject: WAKE UP! / Dead or Alive / JL bad days. Message-ID: Hello jammers! There is a subconscious track called Dead or Alive (Bon Jovi's) and I was wandering if anyone can give me info regarding Where it was recorded, when, how, who was playing, who did the solo, who are the drunken guys, why do they sound high pitched (HELIUM??) where did you get this from, who's singing and everything else. Whoever managed to get this one is a master! I've just received the bootleg WAKEUP!, and I'd have to say Derek is very cool - his solo there is great! the heavy JAM is great also, and the show is very good. Too bad somebody messed up with John Myung's sound - the trebles are too high!!! But still James Labrie has some problems there - Why does his voice get down so often? Why doesn't he go to a professional therapist about this? Because sometimes that guy can be so wonderful on shows - LIVE AT THE MARQUEE, for instance, in songs like Metropolis, The Killing Hand etc. HERE THE DRUMMER GET WICKED. HERE THE DRUMMER GET WICKED. HERE THE DRUMMER GET WICKED. HERE THE DRUMMER GET WICKED. CAUGHT IN A WEB. Aviad. /--\ \__/ || || || || || \\_||_// / ## \ | ## | \______/ "To B-Quad or not to B-Quad?, that is the question" - a.h. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 29 Aug 1995 01:41:18 -0700 (MST) From: Michael Bahr To: email_address_removed Cc: email_address_removed Subject: Acoustic Dreams Update Message-ID: DREAM THEATER: "ACOUSTIC DREAMS" Information and Update Current to 8/30/1995 NOTE: INTERNET EMAIL ADDRESS CHANGE: I am now email_address_removed I found the culprit of my account's untimely death... Hi all! This is the latest information on Acoustic Dreams, the new LIMITED EDITION Dream Theater CD I will be producing. It will be a numbered, hand-initialed limited print just like Subconscious was. ============================================================================ DISCLAIMER: Acoustic Dreams falls into a grey area of law as an uncopyrighted recording produced in such a manner that at least one facet of the production occurs in a country (namely Italy) in which it is legal to do so. In the USA, it is permissible to sell used import CDs only if they are labeled as such. This is such a CD. Be aware that the various powers-that-be are collecting nothing for this. ============================================================================ Of course, that's all cover-my-butt lawyerspeak. I hope you all will want to be a part of this. I make roughly minimum wage doing it, so you know I'm not out to scam you. In all humility, I appeal to anyone who might not think too kindly of my endeavor, and ask that they might give me the benefit of the doubt on this one. Friends? :) 1. What is Acoustic Dreams? 2. What is the release schedule? 3. How can I get my own copy of Acoustic Dreams? 4. Orders received. ============================================================================ 1. What is Acoustic Dreams? Hi all! Allow me to introduce myself, if you aren't familiar with me yet. I'm Mike Bahr, humble maker of special-edition CDs. I noticed a lot of the mass-manufactured bootleg offerings were spiralling quite high in price and yet offered little for the die-hard fan, and I concocted a scheme by which I could make around minimum wage by producing CDs on my own, CDs that would fill the demand for REAL rarities and special songs, unreleased items, live shows, and the like. Basically, since no CD plant will print them for me, I have to rent studio and equipment time and do it myself. So far, it's working. :) Fortunately, and for this I am very relieved, my CD efforts so far have been incredibly well-received by the net community, especially the Ytsejam mailing list. I just do what I can do and leave the rest up to God, and I guess the Almighty isn't disappointing you folks. People from all walks of life, all countries of the world, both sexes, all races, and all religions have joined in on the Subconscious and Cygnus projects, and I am very happy to have you all along for the ride. I'll keep making CDs as long as you folks are willing to keep buying them. Thanks so _very_ much... :) And now, it's time to get Acoustic Dreams together. Well, this is the next CD I'm doing, also known as Dream Theater Unplugged. We were given a VERY high-quality soundboard tape of DT's recent Unplugged performance in Europe, and it can only be fully expressed in the form of a CD. Trust me. :) I am fervently hoping that the finished product is well-liked. I've created the master DAT and submitted it so I can get the glass master made. Here's the final tracklisting from Acoustic Dreams. I know many were hoping I'd find more stuff, but I've pretty much scraped the barrel dry at this point. The only other things of similar sound quality I could find were in soundboard shows that ought to be released to CD in their entirety. Acoustic Dreams 1. Another Day 2. Lifting Shadows off a Dream 3. Wait For Sleep 4. The Silent Man 5. Lie (boogie version) 6. Tears (Rush cover) 7. O Holy Night Electric Extras 8. Perfect Strangers (with Bruce Dickinson on vocals) 9. 6:00 (performed in session with a much better mix) 10. Caught In A Web (another better performance) Bonus Tracks (acoustic) 11. Voices (just a small part of it was all there was) acoustic 12. Bad (U2 cover) acoustic I hope that once you've heard it, you will, like me, have your breath taken away by the beauty of the acoustic tracks and the clarity and sharpness of the electric mixes. As good as Cygnus sounded, this is easily and by far the best sounding CD I will have ever made. 2. What is the release schedule? Here is the current schedule of releases as I see it (all dates estimated): NOW - Rush: Cygnus released/shipping NOW - Dream Theater: "Acoustic Dreams" ordering begins 09/30/1995 - Dream Theater: "Acoustic Dreams" released/shipping 10/15/1995 - Public Affection: "The Death of a Dictionary" ordering begins 11/15/1995 - Dream Theater: "When Dream and Today Unite" ordering begins 11/30/1995 - Public Affection: "The Death of a Dictionary" released/shipping 12/25/1995 - Dream Theater: "When Dream and Today Unite" released/shipping 02/--/1996 - Rush: To be announced 04/--/1996 - Live or Type O-Negative: To be announced 06/--/1996 - Dream Theater: To be announced Here are a few descriptions to keep your curiosity satiated :) Dream Theater "In The Subconscious" - 1 piece Also known as Subconscious #000, this original pre-mix master CD has all the songs in their original, unrefined state, and was sold along with the rest. Quite the collector's piece, I'd wager. Is on a gold CD-R with test cover. Dream Theater "Subconscious" Released 04/03/1995 - Limited Edition - 500 copies - sold out Contained Dream Theater rarities including A Change of Season. Rush "Cygnus" Alpha Test Print Released 08/07/1995 - 5 pieces - given away to random testers Identical to the regular release of Cygnus except has a different cover (original white cover), has dropouts as-is (no fadeouts), and is in a few other ways just a "test print". Only edition of Cygnus ever to say "Rush: Cygnus" and not "Cygnus Tribute" because I was able to make the bland black & white covers myself. Rush "Cygnus" Released 08/14/1995 - Unlimited Edition - still available Contains a rare soundboard show from the Hemispheres tour. Dream Theater "Acoustic Dreams" Currently in pre-ordering. To be released 09/30/1995 - Limited Edition of 500 copies Each copy will be hand signed/numbered in gold for authenticity. Contains beautiful unplugged performances. Public Affection "The Death of a Dictionary" To be released 11/30/1995 - Unlimited print Is actually +Live+'s little-known first album, released in 1989, two years before their 1991 breakthrough Mental Jewelry. Demand for this one is skyrocketing, and the Jam gets first shot at it. Dream Theater "When Dream and Today Unite" To be released 12/25/1995 - Limited print of either 500 or 1000. Contains the songs from Dream and Day only with James LaBrie on vocals. Collected from MANY sources and optimized for quality. Some of these still need quality boosts. (Light Fuse, STS...) The following are all "Work in Progress" releases... Rush other titles I'm considering (for any of the given shows): Land's Edge, Storm World, Lifeforce, Arena of the Ancients... Rush "A Symptom of Life" - from 12/20/81 2nd gen soundboard Contains a LOT of neat stuff. a LOT. But very long... 2 CD set? Rush "Concordant Crossroads" - from 3/24/81 audience MASTER in stereo This one has unbelievable good sound quality. It's a tossup whether to take this or Symptom, since both are so good but so similar. Rush "Sleight of Mind" - from a remastered 6/25/75 Toronto This tour has been very underrepresented in available material, so who knows, if S.H.'s cleanup efforts turn out good... +Live+ "Disenchanting Discourse" - from a 10/25/94 audience MASTER in stereo It might be released, it might not, depending on many things. If you would like to see it released, please let me know and let as many people know as you can. I tend to find ways to release things when I find an overwhelming demand for them. :) Type O-Negative "Deathgrip" - from a 5/30/94 audience MASTER in stereo A great setlist and decent sound. Only my worries about how many copies I can sell prevent this. I can't undertake anything less than a potential sellout project or I risk going under. Again, if this is a title you'd like to see, you can make it happen. All I need is a lot of interest, and away we go! So far I've had a few positive replies... much much more are needed though. Dream Theater... oh who knows, there's so much good stuff. Possible shows: Osaka soundboard from late 1992 Hamburg soundboard from spring 1993 Vocalist auditions various excellent DATs recorded in Texas 3. How can I order a copy of Acoustic Dreams? Finally, I am going to go ahead and let the ordering begin, because I can tell everyone's excitement level is peaking at this point. :) I will say this in advance: I expect it to come out 9/30 or thereabouts (I'm going to try and beat my own schedule) and that's two months away, folks. If that dosen't bother you too much, I guess it won't bother me either. However, I'm one of those guys who hates having things take too long. :) I say this because Subconscious took an unbelievably long time to turnaround due to delays in the making of it, and despite my best efforts, Cygnus is going a bit too slow for my taste as well (though it's still within the predicted schedule, it was a schedule I had been planning to beat). So I am trying to jumpstart Acoustic Dreams so there's NO DAMN WAITING. :) Here's the nitty gritty then: RESERVATIONS. I'll take them, to save you a COPY, but not necessarily a _specific copy_. In many cases, people who request special numbers such as birthdays and so on will get them. But people requesting a specific low number are going to find that they're all sold. Which brings me to the next point: ORDERS. The numbering, excepting special requests when possible, will fill in the order I receive the mail orders. It's only fair after all. I'll reserve a copy for someone over e-mail, but if thirty people get their orders in before he or she does, it's not fair for me to still hold copy #014 or whatever. You all get the idea... these decisions are just in the effort to make it fair for all. Please, I stress to all of you, don't miss this if you missed Subconscious. It really does pain me to have to tell a fellow DT fan that there simply aren't any more Sub discs to be had, especially because I would be MORE than glad to sell one if I had it. Blanks, materials, studio time, etc is cheaper per unit for a production line of 1000 than for 500, which is why Cygnus was cheaper for the Ytsejammers. Acoustic Dreams, alas, must remain $25. I was hoping to bring it down to $21 or $20 but that wouldn't be cost effective. I think I may be able to do that for the Public Affection CD, however. Things are pretty simple from here. Send along a money order for $25 bucks to my address, being sure to include a note with your name, the address to ship to, your email address, and WHICH CD you're ordering (after all, Cygnus is still in ordering) and HOW MANY you're ordering. As before, international customers may use whatever means of payment is most convenient for them, though I stress that sending cash is risky and should not be a first option, but a backup plan. :) Also, to pool opinions: would you all want me to include a number list as orders are received? The address and so on is me at: Mike "Acoustic Dreamer" Bahr 3175 N. Price Rd. #1066 Chandler, AZ 85224 My home telephone number, available as a courtesy to you, is 1-602-777-0501. I am usually not home on weekends (band practice) so try during the week, between noon and 9pm pacific time, for best results. Also, please use discretion when handling this number, as it is, after all, my own home phone, and I will be very confused if a stranger calls at 3:00 AM. :) I trust you Jammers to be cool about it, as you always have in the past. 4. Orders received. This is NOT "reservations"... it's paid-for orders. If you have a reservation, it's still valid, trust me. :) These are just the numbers that are filled. Also there are a handful of "saved numbers" in there. 001 Master 002 Press Master A 003 Press Master B 004 Mike Bahr 005 Justin Poulter 006 Steve McMaster 007 David Fox 008 Robert Dalton 009 Chris King 010 Michael Burstin 011 Brian Cox 012 Scott Hansen 013 Mike Portnoy 014 Mike Portnoy 015 Mike Portnoy 016 Bracken Odiorne 017 John Nguyen 018 Nathan Bradley 019 Mike Engelhardt 020 Todd Masek 021 Johan Moore 022 Mark Tedhams 023 Brian Fieg 024 Adam Japhet 025 Steve Chew 026 Kristian Reyes 027 Alan Wilds 028 Jeff Stewart 029 Matt McIntosh 030 Brian Polka 031 Stephan Dobay 032 Dale Newberry 033 Scott Hansen 034 Sanjeev Ghai 035 Sanjeev Ghai 036 Mike Robinson 037 Paul Poehler 038 Lisa Gaunt 039 Tracy Mangum 040 Jeff Forte 041 Robert Castilone 042 Bracken Odiorne 043 Jean-Francois Cote' 044 Vaevictus Asmadi 045 Steve Esterle 046 Chad Smith 047 Scott McCammon 048 David Edwards 049 Craig Newmeyer 050 Partha Mukhopadhyay 051 Dave Silva 052 Dave Silva 053 Dave Silva 054 Dave Silva 055 Anna Davidson 056 Jason Breitweg 057 Demetris Papallis 058 Adam Marshall 059 Paul Goracke 060 Andrew Garinger 061 Alex Fraser 062 Uffe Moller 063 Uffe Moller 064 Matt Masi 065 Iwahori Tomonori 066 Iwahori Tomonori 067 Michael Backof 068 Brian Ross 069 Anna Davidson 070 Kjetil Nordahl 071 Kjetil Nordahl 072 Kjetil Nordahl 073 Bill Wrightson 074 S. Johnson 075 Jaison John 076 Jaison John 077 Craig Newmeyer 078 Paul Humm 079 Jay Miller 080 Astrid De Ronde 081 Jason MacDonald 082 Scott Kuennen 083 Scott Kuennen 084 Rick Beem 085 Mike Ringelstetter 086 Conrad Chi 087 Brian Kirk 088 Brian Adams 089 Chris Freel 090 Chris Freel 091 Patrick Davis 092 Dave Fausel 093 Chris Derobertis 094 Sean Brady 095 S. Craig Caldwell 096 Andrew Stiles 097 Gregory Bunker 098 Eddie Webb 099 Edwin Million 100 Jenn Albert 101 Jenn Albert 102 Jeff Hill 103 Mike Olekshy 104 David Delmont 105 Derek Bober 106 Adam Japhet (there are actually about 40 new names for me to add here. I will have done that by tomorrow sometime. Sorry to those who were waiting to see their name; the Cygnus shipping put a temporary hold on my work here.) 111 Sookapat Niyomthai 113 Randy Haskin 121 Jason Russell 152 Carl Jason 193 Ramin Miraftabi 210 Greg Sands 211 Greg Sands 213 Evelyn Lauer 215 Jun-Dai Bates 222 Jacob Caminati 225 Jason Russell 228 Eric Marlett 240 Chris Mahaffey 244 Andreas Kasper 246 Jan Melander 249 Tim Villa 275 Mark Stahl 303 John Mastin 304 John Mastin 310 Craig Erskine 313 Evelyn Lauer 330 Philip Jason 333 Jacob Caminati 350 Keith Aspinal 405 Philip Jason 406 Joe Lukas 412 Keith Aspinal 420 Darren Brown 421 Darren Brown 427 Ryan Brown 444 Jacob Caminati If you see something that just isn't true, please let me know. :) -Mike Bahr, email_address_removed Magic: The Gathering - Mox Rubies taste sort of like onion rings with salt "Asps. Very dangerous. You go first." - Sallah, "Raiders of the Lost Ark" ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 29 Aug 1995 01:43:20 -0700 (MST) From: Michael Bahr To: email_address_removed Cc: email_address_removed Subject: Cygnus update (from the Rush list.) Message-ID: This is actually the same update the Rush newsgroup gets. They're not familiar with me, so rather than boring them by telling them how I make the CDs, I just leave it to their imagination. The price for Ytsejammers is still only $23, even though the text below says $25, which is the price for non-Jammers. NOTICE OF AVAILABILITY: RUSH - CYGNUS UPDATE for 8/30/1995 NOTICE: INTERNET EMAIL ADDRESS CHANGE: I am now email_address_removed QUICK NOTE: The first 200 CDs have already been shipped! More to come! I am sending them via Us Postal Service book rate. This means it can sometimes take a week or more for it to make it to you (though people from the west coast seem to be getting theirs in 2-3 days). I promise, I'm crankin' them out as fast as is humanly possible! Hi all! It's time to update y'all on the CD project. I have finally received my shipment of the Rush CYGNUS CD, a CD with an incredible sound board show from the mystical Hemispheres tour, on it. And I guess I will go ahead and take orders for it... if you like, you can email a reservation before you send your check or MO. Here's the info: Rush "CYGNUS" Recorded at: TCC Arena (Convention Center Arena) Location: Tucson, Arizona Date: November 20, 1978 Source: 2nd gen of original soundboard reel, transferred to 48kHz DAT and mastered to CD Quality: See notes below. Track Listing: Anthem A Passage to Bangkok By-Tor & the Snow Dog I. At the Tobes of Hades II. Across the Styx III. Of the Battle Xanadu Something for Nothing The Trees Cygnus X-1 Book One: The Voyage Cygnus X-1 Book Two: Hemispheres I. Prelude II. Apollo III. Dionysus IV. Armageddon V. Cygnus VI. The Sphere Circumstances A Farewell to Kings Running time 72:52 I did a pre-order project like this for the Dream Theater mailing list a few months back and it worked out very, very well. Any of you who want a reference or voucher for me, direct your question at any DT fan who is on the Ytsejam list, and I'll let their judgment be the Word. How to order: (PLEASE ALLOW 3 to 4 WEEKS FOR DELIVERY.) -A lot of you might have forgotten about this. Since the oldest orders in the queue that are not yet mailed are only 3 weeks old, I'm catching up slowly but surely. Send a cashier's check or money order (made out to me) to: Michael Bahr Limelight Music 3175 N. Price Rd. #1066 Chandler, AZ 85224 Note: I'm just a humble fan with a project going, not a store or CD warehouse... the dealers and mailorder places can give way better prices on other common boots so I don't have or sell any of them. Limelight is what I put on my business license so that I could pay sales tax, thus nobody would ask how I was getting all this money to deposit and why I'd dump thousands at a time into CD production. :) The price is as follows: $25 US - base free - postage within the USA $1 - postage in Canada $2 - postage to anywhere else So it would cost $25 to send it to Strawberry, Arizona... $26 to send it to Halifax, Nova Scotia... and $27 to Saitama, Japan. A note on quality. A lot of people ask me how does the sound compare to A Right to Passage and Spirit of St. Louis. Well, I guess I can give you all a rough idea. Speaking comparatively, ARTP emphasizes the booming bass sound the most and has the muddiest guitar and vocals of the three; SOSL has the booming bass and great vocals, but a muddy guitar, muddy drums, and too much high-end distortion, and Cygnus has less boom (the drums still give a mighty THUMP, but you hear the "thwap twang thwap" of Geddy's bass strings as opposed to an indistinct booming resonance), the stereo separation is clearer, and vocals are the clearest of the three. Vocals are really the standout on Cygnus... it sounds like Geddy's standing in your room. So if you want to crank up the subwoofer and crumble the walls, buy ARTP. But if you like to be able to hear bass slap and cool effects, try Cygnus. As some people have noted, there are some DROPOUTS that have been masked as well as I could. They were present on the master tape, so I couldn't do much but try to repair the gaping holes they left. I hope they won't ruin it for you. Finally, remember that concerts back in 1978 didn't emphasize punch like they do today, and you WILL have to crank the bass if you want this Cd to thump-thump-boom away. It's guitar- and vocal-heavy balancewise. Now then, back to ordering via cashier's check or MO. Why use a cashier's check or MO? Besides the fact that they can't bounce, they are traceable both ways. You know that if you don't eventually get a CD or a refund, I'll be in deep shit. :) It's really the safest way to buy, as I myself have been burned in net dealings before, I do my best to alleviate those fears where my projects are concerned. Apparently, this offer isn't as limited as I originally thought... 400 copies have been ordered so far. Still, this CD is bound to become very valuable as it is a rare and much-coveted concert. Already, my first CD offering "Dream Theater/Subconscious" is being re-sold by others for twice what I originally sold them all for. And I'm afraid it sold out completely... there are no more left to sell! PLEASE! When you send the money order, TELL ME that you're ordering the Cygnus CD. Most of you are already doing this, I just wanted to make sure you all knew, as I am still wrapping up work on Subconscious, as well as taking the early pre-orders for the next Dream Theater CD. Also, be sure to include your email address. It's quite hard to get ahold of you if something goes awry, without it. :) If anyone has any questions, please feel free to email me or call me at (602) 777-0501, between the hours of 6pm and 11pm Pacific time. I'm sorry that I don't have an answering machine (as this is my home line, it's mainly available to all of you as a courtesy) but if I'm there, we'll chat. I do have classes these days so I may or may not be there. I do have work and school like the rest of you, after all. Please understand why you may not catch me at home the first three or four times you try. If the phone rings, I *WILL* answer it if I'm there, and we *WILL* chat, that much I will promise you. If you miss me entirely and want *me* to call *you*, I will do so if you leave your number in email. Please understand that it will probably be brief as I'm a starving student with a phone bill. :) Thanks all! -Mike Bahr, email_address_removed "He was trying to fly, last time I checked." "Was he successful?" "I don't know..." Silk looked over the parapet. "Does bouncing count?" ------------------------------ End of YTSEJAM Digest 935 *************************