YTSEJAM Digest 910 Today's Topics: 1) Re: No More Transcriptions! by NuGgeTMaN 2) Age discrimination by email_address_removed (The one they call Jeff) 3) Poly-stuff by "Ken H ili" 4) Re: Polyrhythms and syncopations by email_address_removed 5) Re: Kansas by email_address_removed 6) Re: Age discrimination by email_address_removed 7) Providence Show -- 8/3 by Corporate Community Relations 8) DT on the Radio, etc. by Corporate Community Relations 9) Copies of shows by email_address_removed (DR MICHAEL S MCINTOSH) 10) YTSEJAM digest 909 by "Steven Johnson, P" 11) DT Listeners by email_address_removed 12) Kansas by Nathan Benjamin Meezan 13) Re: #1(2) YTSEJAM digest 908 by email_address_removed 14) Re: YTSEJAM digest 909 by Darren Freed 15) The Mission by email_address_removed (Bracken Odiorne) 16) Re: Speaking of great drummers... by email_address_removed 17) Re: Age discrimination by email_address_removed 18) Derek. by Aviad Hay 19) Re: YTSEJAM digest 909 by "Steven Johnson, P" 20) LiT, Uncovered, DT fans by email_address_removed (Paul Goracke) 21) any 'jammers in Ottawa? by Tymoteusz Altman 22) Re: Lyrics to Tears by email_address_removed (Zack Gemmill) 23) STOP!! by Brian Wherry 24) QR , worst DT moment, I'm 32 by email_address_removed (David Neff) 25) subscribe by email_address_removed.ca (Doane Raymond, Dartmouth N.S.) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Tue, 1 Aug 1995 11:20:44 -0400 (EDT) From: NuGgeTMaN To: email_address_removed Cc: Multiple recipients of list Subject: Re: No More Transcriptions! Message-ID: Umm...Considering Over Half of us are Musicians and happen to be Seriously into this kinda stuff (Why the Hell do you think we like DT???)...I suggest (And don't take this the wrong way...I'm, trying to just be nice) you use the little thing in your E-mail reader called an INBOX and delete any Messages that have a subject relating to technical stuff! For those of you who 'Take The Time' to transcribe for our lame ButtZ...MANY Thanks...keep up the Excellent work...cause I KNOW this is some complex stuff...and By ALL Means...Keep It COMING!!!! The technical stuff is what makes this Such a FUN list to be subscribed to!!!!! Take care all...and I don't mean to Rag on ya whoever wrote this...but seriously if we didn't have technical talk...this list would be EXTREMELY Dead right now (DT Groupie Crap REALLY doesn't appeal to me...sorry). Take care all!!! (Hehe HuGZ Ta Jen!!!) :) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- According to the circle of fifths, and the order of sharps and flats: If the alphabet continued as notes progressed (Using Major Key Sigs) (i.e. A, B, C, D, E, F, G, H, I, etc.) eventually the key of Z Major would have 4 sharps. StatisticZ show that if a person is born with Perfect Pitch, chances are they will grow up to be a famous...Baseball Player!!! :) "Just Lighten up and listen to the Music" -Kevin Moore (inside joke) email_address_removed Eric Moegling: email_address_removed email_address_removed fOr MoRE nFo AboUT mE fIngEr: email_address_removed ---------------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 2 Aug 1995 02:48:54 -0400 From: email_address_removed (The one they call Jeff) To: email_address_removed Subject: Age discrimination Message-ID: >Just thought I'd tell any under 21 LI males who didn't get to see DT at CPI >because of their sexist admission policy- Having different ages for men and >women to get in is illegal. However, the policy will probably stand until >someone with enough extra time and money decides to sue them (in other words, >the policy will stand). > Not that I'm bitter about having missed my favorite band twice in under >three months or anything! I wasnt surprised to hear of this policy because I had heard about some other clubs doing it arund the Long Island area. Actually if this makes you feel any better about you missing them, I heard they sounded horrible from a friend who went. She said the place was overcrowded and hot. She left after forty-five minutes and sat in the parking lot and waited for her friends to come out. I hope someone who went to the show can tell me she was wrong. I know DT has a habit of playing too loud so I could see them sounding terrible. I wish i could have gone, but that damn "sexist admission policy". On another note, does anyone out there have the lyrics to Tears...Im dying to get them. I just bought 2112 the other day and found out that the lyrics arent in the album. If you could either post them or send them to me personally Id really appreciate it. Later ________________________________________________________________________________ Jeff Forte email_address_removed "Hope is epidemic, optimism spreads, bitterness breeds irritation, ignorance breeds imitation" --Rush "Strange how laughter looks like crying with no sound; raindrops taste like tears, without the pain" --Queensryche ________________________________________________________________________________ ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 2 Aug 1995 09:49:54 GMT+0100 From: "Ken H ili" To: email_address_removed Subject: Poly-stuff Message-ID: <<>> I *KNEW* somebody would get it right!!!!! Thanks, Warren in Oregon, the men in white coats are on their way! Ken the Slave ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 2 Aug 1995 09:07:12 -0400 From: email_address_removed To: email_address_removed Subject: Re: Polyrhythms and syncopations Message-ID: I was just saying that if you listen to only the guitar and bass, they don't change meters with the rest of the band at that part. --Jon-- ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 2 Aug 1995 09:12:21 -0400 From: email_address_removed To: email_address_removed Subject: Re: Kansas Message-ID: Just so you know, I think "Live At The Whiskey" is probably Kansas's worst album, followed immediately by "Freaks Of Nature." Go pick up something decent by them: Kansas, Song For America, Masque, Monolith, Leftoverture & Point of Know Return. And if you want to hear a GOOD live Kansas album, go pick up "Two For The Show." >Their music is similar except DT has taken it to a higher >plateau and heavier and better Uh...well, I don't honestly think you've heard enough Kansas to make that statement. Heavier, yes. But heavier doesn't always make it better. And besides, the one thing that Kansas did that no band did as well, you probably didn't notice, because of the albums you heard...since Kerry Livgren, the BRAINS of the operation, wasn't in the band post '84. If the "special products" Kansas album you refer to is "Carry On," go check out some of that material's original albums. You can't get "Drastic Measures" or "Vinyl Confessions" on CD, and at the rate they're going, you probably never will. Not that this'll matter to you, Mr. Daugherty, but, I spoke to Mike P. about the Live At The Whiskey CD right after he picked it up. I told him, "Man, it sucks." Mike says, "Don't tell me that!" Next show (at the TLA), I ran into him again. He said, "You were right about the LATW CD...the other one was better." Anyway, -Hairball ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 2 Aug 1995 09:16:41 -0400 From: email_address_removed To: email_address_removed Subject: Re: Age discrimination Message-ID: I was going to go to the Providence show, but its an 18 and over club! I am only 16! This was going to be my first DT show--- but NO!!--- I am not old enough to go! Why 18? Its obviously not for alcohol reasons. What--- do the sell cigarettes there??!!! Jon (Ibanez7) ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 2 Aug 95 09:42:36 EDT From: Corporate Community Relations To: email_address_removed Subject: Providence Show -- 8/3 Message-ID: Anyone headed to the Providence show, be sure to pick up your complimentary programme in the lobby. I'll be distributing them as a courtesy effort on my behalf... Buck ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 2 Aug 95 09:41:42 EDT From: Corporate Community Relations To: email_address_removed Subject: DT on the Radio, etc. Message-ID: <---- Begin Included Message ----> Hey all you Dreamers! I called my local radio station today and found out something very disturbing! I requested them to play DREAM THEATER...and the DJ was very honest with me and told me she is not sure they even have Dream Theater in the studio(station). They did at one time..and played DT quite a bit...but since "national statistics"(etc..etc..)(and marketing) Dream Theater is not in demand as many other "new" bands or records..etc.. They might play late night when the DJ has more "freedom", but never hear them play during the day. What a shame...it all comes down to TARGET MARKETING...music on demand. It ALL comes P.S. oh..by the way..the radio station Im talking about it 98.9 The Rock Kansas City. there phone number is:913-576-7989studio/ or main number:913-384-9900. ---- End Included Message ----> >>I don't know...there's something I like about not hearing DT on the radio, >>it makes it...well so much more meaningful. While some people are out >>ruining there ears with crap bands like Offspring, Green Day, and other >>dime a dozen bands, I know I have DT sitting in my CD player to be played. >>And also, I've recently realized how HARD it is to make someone listen >>to DT. There's a certain type of personality that goes with listening to >>DT. 90% of all DT listeners I know fit into this personality: They are either >>artistic (painters, drawers, etc..), a musician, enjoys fantasy (rpg type) >>novels and etc, or all of the above... Your everyday football jock, >>metalhead, cheerleader, brainiac, type people don't appreciate it as much. >>That's why when a song like.."Silent Man" or "PMU" come on the radio, more >>people channel surf than enjoy! Just my $.02 Gotta throw my 0.02 in here... I'm sure we'd all love to hold the opinion that James expressed above ... i.e. NOT to hear DT on the radio and to keep the music to ourselves...but the reality is that DT is in the music BUSINESS, and that is the key word right there. Being a former sound engineer in the business myself, I've seen a lot scenarios all pointing to one thing -- the all-mighty DOLLAR. Yes, I know, hard to believe, but it's true. Record companies *honestly* do not care how good or bad a band is, as long as it's making them money. As soon as the band becomes a hassle, they're bye-bye. So, do I want to hear DT on the radio? Well, it would be nice if they had a lucrative financial income from such a vehicle (and MTV, that would be nice) to support their longevity in this world, but one can only hope without Radio or MTV that DT will be *lucky* emough to survive without their support. Only a few bands, like the Grateful Dead, have managed to do this. To me, if you were all FAITHFUL DT fans, you'd be calling your radio stations and sending MTV E-mail __demanding__ DT to be played!!! To me, spend a little less time chatting on ytsejam and more time bugging the industry people ... that is where I think y'all could make a difference. Happy rails, .... Buck .++++++++.\ -- .+++. .+++++++++++++++.\ ... .+++++++. .+++++++++++++++++++++.\ .+++++. .+++++++++++. .+++++++++++++++++++++++++++. .+++++++++. .++++++ William J. Buckley, Jr. +++++++++++++++++++. .+++++++++++++...++++++++ email_address_removed ++++++++++++++++++++++. ----------------------------- email_address_removed --------------------------- ----- Support an American Tradition ... RIDE MORE ROLLER COASTERS !!!!! ----- Disclaimer: The opinions expressed above are my own. They are not expressed on behalf of, nor are they associated with, my employer Digital Equipment Corp. or any specific non-for-profit organization I have affiliation with. P.S. -- Same goes for the work I do in the Amusement Industry -- sure, us die-hard coaster nuts would all love to see roller coasters that go 100mph with -2 negative g forces and what not, but that is not what the PUBLIC wants, and since it is the public's money supporting this business, it is THEIR wants and wishes that get the nod over the "true enthusiasts"... ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 02 Aug 1995 09:52:19 EDT From: email_address_removed (DR MICHAEL S MCINTOSH) To: email_address_removed Subject: Copies of shows Message-ID: Hi all. I'm looking for shows from the Awake tour, especially the June 9 show in NYC. I've got a stack of blanks, so I'm all ready. Let me know if you can help me out. One more thing: Alot of DT songs have samples and sound clips from movies and whatnot, especially the stuff written by Moore. Does the band have to receive permission to do that? (note: I didn't see, for example, A Room with a View credited on Awake...) Thanks... -Finn ------------------------------ Date: 02 Aug 1995 09:36:09 GMT From: "Steven Johnson, P" To: email_address_removed Subject: YTSEJAM digest 909 Message-ID: *** Reply to note of 08/02/95 00:21 Aviad mentioned most people not interested in talking about "The Mirror" or polyrhytms. O.K. Let's talk about an aspect of a Glass Tiger song that we can all agree on! Boy, won't that be interesting? For the last time!!!! I thought this list was for DT fans to talk about DT material and any other strand that may spin off from such discussion. If you don't like it, page down! LATER- Steve --------------------------------------------------------------- "Can't be king of the world if you're a slave to the grind." - Skid Row ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 2 Aug 1995 11:16:27 -0400 From: email_address_removed To: email_address_removed Subject: DT Listeners Message-ID: I just read the new Ytsejam, and there was something in there about 90% of all DT listeners being the artistic, musicical, fantasy type. Well, I totally agree. Also, I wanted to give you this input: Have you also noticed that when it comes bands like DT or Rush, people are either absolute fanatics or can't stand them? Take me for example, I'm driving 300 miles to see DT in Providence! A lot of my friends just dance around to hip hop and tell me that I'm nuts. I'm sure a lot of DT fans have experienced this. It's like listening to these bands takes your mind and creative abilites to a new level. Also, I wanted to know If the members of DT or other progressive bands lean toward this "Fantasy Dreamer" type personality. Probably. I guess that bands like QR,DT,Rush,etc. are out there on the edge, they're the REAL "Alternative" to the crap that gets played on the radio these days. Anyways, just my 2 pesos! Later, email_address_removed P.S. I just finished listening to Megadeth's new album. How do fellow jammers consider them? I mean do they fit into ,"Progressive Metal"? ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 2 Aug 1995 08:29:27 -0700 (PDT) From: Nathan Benjamin Meezan To: email_address_removed Subject: Kansas Message-ID: To the guy who asked about Kansas and their influence on DT and their albums: (Daugherty, I think?) Yeah, no kidding about the influence of Kansas on DT. In fact, I just listened to When Dream and Day Unite for the first time the other night (despite having owned I&W and Awake for quite some time now), and I could not believe how much more obvious DT's roots were on this album than in their later ones. It was obvious that they were aiming at Rush and Kansas quite a bit. Very interesting. I like Charlie's voice, too-- kind of like Geddy Lee mixed with Steve Perry (minus a good deal of talent). Anyway, to get off that tangent, I cannot agree with your statement that DT has taken its Kansas prog-style "to a higher plane" or whatever it was you said. I don't own many Kansas albums, but from what I've heard, they possess an intensity that DT often lacks. Their music, though complex, is not as complicated or out there as DT's, and I think it is more powerful and moving than DT's. As for albums, if you like Live at the Whiskey, you'll probably love Point of Know Return and Leftoverture (these are the three Kansas albums that I own). Most of the songs on Whiskey are from these two albums, and it's terriffic to hear them with different instrumentation, studio quality, and a young Steve Walsh with a clear voice. And the other songs, well, they're fabulous--What's On My Mind, Sparks of the Tempest, The Spider, etc. are awesome. You also get to hear Robby Steinhardt on some songs, a treat you miss on Whiskey. The really amazing part, though,is that these two albums, which contain music better than 99.9% of other albums, were mad by Kansas in consecutive years! That still blows me away. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Nathan Meezan, Stanford '97 email- email_address_removed ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 2 Aug 1995 00:56:28 -0400 From: email_address_removed To: email_address_removed Subject: Re: #1(2) YTSEJAM digest 908 Message-ID: Hello! I just read the new 'JAM and would like to say that I think everyone going to the Providence show starts chanting "Scarred" I'll be right up front! -C-ya!! ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 2 Aug 1995 11:41:00 -0400 (EDT) From: Darren Freed To: email_address_removed Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 909 Message-ID: > Come on people, discuss this among yourself. IMHO, not a lot of Jammers > are interested in this stuff. Including the PolyRhythm thing. > Take Care > > > - Aviad Easy there, buddy. I've learned a lot from all these intelligent dudes discussing this stuff. I didn't even know what polyrhythm was before they started talking about it. I think that this is what makes my subscription to the list valuable! I actually learn something! Darren ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 2 Aug 1995 10:04:35 -0600 (MDT) From: email_address_removed (Bracken Odiorne) To: email_address_removed Subject: The Mission Message-ID: Hey all, I just had to tell you that I've finally had a success with Dream Theater conversion. After months of trying to get my closed minded friends in Idaho (through the mail, since I live in Colorado) to listen to them, with no luck, I created a new DT fan. My mother (age: 48) has been visiting me for a couple of weeks, and I took this time (inbetween trips to the Denver Museum of Art, etc...) to saturate her mind with DT. She loves them. After watching the Live In Tokyo video and listening to every album and bootleg that I own she decided she had to have them. The day before she left we went out to our friendly local CD shop and she purchased I&W and Awake. Waa hoo! I showed her my transcription books for the music (she's an artist, not a musician, but I talk about music enough that she gets it) so she could see how proficient the gods are at what they do. She loved it all. Well, that's all I have to say for now. Be excellent to each other! Bracken P.S. Does anyone have a good copy of Queensryche's final show on this tour on audio AND/OR video? I'm VERY interested. "...Without music, life would be an error." Nietzsche -Twilight of the Idols- ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 02 Aug 95 09:02:02 PST From: email_address_removed To: email_address_removed Subject: Re: Speaking of great drummers... Message-ID: >>Has anyone here ever heard of The Icicle Works? Yeah, I have a couple of their CDs (they are kinda hard to find)... very interesting stuff, kind of like U2 (circa "Boy" or "War")... definately worth checking out... don't know what happened to them though... Mike Kizer email_address_removed ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 02 Aug 95 09:34:43 PST From: email_address_removed To: email_address_removed Subject: Re: Age discrimination Message-ID: >Jeff Forte email_address_removed >On another note, does anyone out there have the lyrics to Tears...Im If you are looking for them to go along with Dream Theater's version from the Ronnie Scott's gig then you can get a copy of the DT Song Book (I am pretty sure the lyrics are identical with the Rush version). The "Unofficial" Dream Theater Song Book is available via the following methods: WWW: http://www.indirect.com/www/mkizer/index.htm FTP: www.indirect.com/www/mkizer/dt_sb10.txt If you can't get a copy using the above methods, send me an email and I'll send you a copy directly. +-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-+ | Michael Kizer -- Computer Sciences Corporation (Tucson, AZ) | | email_address_removed (preferred) -or- email_address_removed | | http://www.indirect.com/www/mkizer/index.htm | | ^--> Check here for the Dream Theater Song Book... | | "Plus ca change, plus c'est la meme chose." -Rush (The Band!) | +-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-+ ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 2 Aug 95 20:39 +0300 From: Aviad Hay To: email_address_removed Subject: Derek. Message-ID: Does anyone know wether derek can do Kevin's solo on TTT (on shows) - does he do it well enough? Also Can he do Kev's solo on Under a Glass Moon? If anyone has a bootleg containing derek's solos for either of the songs - I would be so happy to check it out - cause I don't have any with derek actually. Oh about the polyrhythms - The guys with the parrot thing was very funny. And the guy with the "We don't want that in our Jam" was qute, but the polyrhythms are generally very interesting - they symbolizes the spirit of progressivness or complexity - and are very compeling withing the songs... See ya all. /--\ \__/ || || || || || \\_||_// / ## \ | ## | \______/ "To B-Quad or not to B-Quad?, that is the question" - a.h. ------------------------------ Date: 02 Aug 1995 13:37:13 GMT From: "Steven Johnson, P" To: email_address_removed Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 909 Message-ID: Concerning polyrhythms....I consulted my dad who's a looooooooong-time professional musician witha bach., masters and 5/6ths of a Ph.D. He's a major jazz buff...hence the references. LATER- Steve --------------------------------------------------------------- "Can't be king of the world if you're a slave to the grind." - Skid Row *** Forwarding note from VINSJ102--INTERNET 08/02/95 13:23 *** To: ZSVJ01 --CTSVMC JOHNSON, STEVE Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 909 POLYRHYTHM: The simultaneous use of conflicting rhythms and accents, often as a result of combining different meters. Simpler types, such as the use of 6/8 against 3/4, are usually called cross rhythm, while the term polyrhythm is used for the bold rhythmic clashes often encountered in 20th-century music. Strongly syncopated passages, such as occur in jazz, also produce a polyrhythmic effect. The above passage is from the Harvard Brief Dictionary of Music. They (discussion group) are OK in definition, but there is a lot of "phat" in some of their stuff. :-) Power to the beat! ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 2 Aug 1995 11:49:56 -0700 From: email_address_removed (Paul Goracke) To: email_address_removed Subject: LiT, Uncovered, DT fans Message-ID: Live In Tokyo ----------- Two weeks ago now, I celebrated getting a new cd player by purchasing Live In Tokyo (yes, I know it's a video; but when the logic, however twisted, involves getting new DT, I don't argue.) Watching it has renewed my awe of the band, although I now urgently _need_ to see them live. I had never seen the videos before: am I to understand there are people here who actually got into DT because of these vids? The edits in the songs are _painful_, and if I hadn't known the "real" versions, I would have written DT off as a band that couldn't make a song flow together. And, of course, the "wolfman" in PMU - ??? Can someone tell me what the Japanese autograph-hunter is _really_ saying? While I was laughing loudly at Kevin's translation, some friends thought he was serious. I imagine it's just "greatest band in the world" fan babble, but I would still like to know. Uncovered ------- I've been listening to a tape of the Ronnie Scott's gig (thanks, Mike!) and am quite impressed. The setlist is well-chosen (okay, there's a couple songs I would argue against, but...) It's the first I've heard Derek play, and he sounds good. My only anxiety now about him replacing Kevin is the samples - Kevin has a way of making them fit and become an integral part of the song. I know some of you hated the samples, but if they disappear on the next album, I for one will miss them. Overall, I would have (should have?) killed to be at that show. DT Fans/Popularity ---------------- Abraham Omman posited: > There's a certain type of personality that goes with listening to DT. > 90% of all DT listeners I know fit into this personality: They are > either artistic (painters, drawers, etc..), a musician, enjoys fantasy > (rpg type) novels and etc, or all of the above... Your everyday football > jock, metalhead, cheerleader, brainiac, type people don't appreciate it > as much. Yes! Another 90% I don't fit into! Unless you can categorize a 26yr old netadmin for an HIV research group w/ an Electrical Engineering degree who reads Dick, Ellison, Clancy, and Barker and hasn't touched his guitar in 3 years (and wasn't very good at it anyway.) I think the only real categorization for DT fans is people who know what they like (and don't like) when they hear it, no matter what others say. And aren't afraid to let their friends know about it :^) Unfortunately, radio has become a one-way medium - marketers tell you what to listen to. (I know there are djs out there who fight this, some on this list - I applaud you) While seeing DT hit big on the charts would be gratifying, I am happy to support them (and drum up additional support) enough to keep the good stuff coming. Symbiosis can be cool. Sorry for the length, but I just spent the last two days reconfirming why I hate Microsoft, and needed a break. pg remember, you're an individual - just like everyone else ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 2 Aug 1995 11:48:04 -0700 (PDT) From: Tymoteusz Altman To: email_address_removed Subject: any 'jammers in Ottawa? Message-ID: Hey, I've just received news this morning that i got a job in Ottawa starting Sept. 5th. so i'll make the trip from vancouver some time before that. I'm hoping I could get together with some people who know what good music is :) how is the club scene there btw. hope to hear from someone... (i'm 23 if that makes a difference) tim a. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 2 Aug 95 14:56:50 PDT From: email_address_removed (Zack Gemmill) To: email_address_removed Subject: Re: Lyrics to Tears Message-ID: > ....On another note, does anyone out there have the lyrics to Tears...Im > dying to get them. I just bought 2112 the other day and found out that the > lyrics arent in the album. The MFSL CD has the full insert w/lyrics (and it sounds a lot better!) > If you could either post them or send them to me > personally Id really appreciate it. Since a lot of us here aren't Rush fans, too, here they are: Tears ----- Lyrics by Geddy Lee All of the seasons And all of the days All of the reasons Why I've felt this way So long So long Then lost in that feeling I looked in your eyes I noticed emotion And that you had cried For me I can see What would touch me deeper Tears that fall from eyes That only cry? Would it touch you deeper Than tears that fall from eyes That know why? A lifetime of questions Tears on your cheek I tasted the answers And my body was weak For you The truth Z. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 2 Aug 1995 18:07:20 -0400 (EDT) From: Brian Wherry To: DT List Subject: STOP!! Message-ID: Please stop all the talk about the intro to The Mirror. The whole thing could be phrased in a million different time signatures. It doesn't need to be, but it you want to make up all kinds of b.s. about fictitional time signatures in the intro to a song in a thesis or something, go right ahead! Please stop posting your theories! It has become quite tiresome! Thank you! :) Providence ho!! Brian ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 02 Aug 1995 19:04:36 -0600 From: email_address_removed (David Neff) To: email_address_removed ('smtp:email_address_removed') Subject: QR , worst DT moment, I'm 32 Message-ID: Bob Holder's post about Queensryche reminded me - I saw them in Camden, NJ on July 19 and they were awesome. I managed to get backstage for the pre-show Meet & Greet which was even better! :) I've been backstage at other shows before, but this was the first time the whole band showed up, so I'm now the proud owner of a 5-autograph Promised Land CD poster thing-y. Hoo-ray for me. :P Despite the fact that the room we were in was rather small and very hectic, all the guys were really cool and went out of their way to thank everybody for being there. Jason Giles, you might like to know that Michael Wilton took a good look at my Ytsejam t-shirt and said "Cool!". Also, I met about 8 people at the show with DT shirts, half of whom asked me where I got mine. There was a thread a ways back about best DT moments - I have a worst DT moment (hard to imagine!) ... I had just gotten I&W when I went to see them at the Chestnut Cabaret in Philly (I was not familiar with the band at all in '93). There's a Chili's restaurant a few doors down where I went to meet my friends, and as we were sitting there suckin' down a cold one, I happened to notice an Asian American fellow sitting with some other guy in a booth nearby. Dadgum if it wasn't Myung and LaBrie! But did I go up and talk to them? Nooooooo! Oh, they were chatting about something and I didn't want to interrupt and seem like a jerk ... then they left. DOOOHHH!! 8=( Let that be a lesson to all of you - CARPE DIEM! Hey Al Balkiewicz - how ya doin'?? - Dave (email_address_removed) ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 2 Aug 1995 22:57:14 -0300 From: email_address_removed.ca (Doane Raymond, Dartmouth N.S.) To: email_address_removed Subject: subscribe Message-ID: Kenneth Moore ************************************************************************ Doane Raymond Chartered Accountants 44 Portland St., Suite 301 P.O. 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