YTSEJAM Digest 905 Today's Topics: 1) Ages? by "John R. Kotzian" 2) RE: The Drummer IS Most Important by tempus88@nbnet.nb.ca (Vince French) 3) Re: YTSEJAM digest 904 by James Peele 4) Dub site CLOSING by Anthony 5) Re: JP's acoustic guitar by euan@waikato.ac.nz 6) poly-rhythms by email_address_removed 7) DT World Premiere on Radio!! by Brian Wherry 8) B**ts in Milwaukee by email_address_removed (Joe Kruger) 9) . by email_address_removed 10) Re: Ages? etc... by email_address_removed (Zack Gemmill) 11) A suggestion by "Ken H ili" 12) Re: Ages? by NuGgeTMaN 13) a couple questions by email_address_removed (Monty Newberry ) 14) DT fans in Philly going to Providence? by email_address_removed (MR DEREK J BOBER) 15) Re: Ages? by email_address_removed 16) Moshing in NY by email_address_removed 17) Polly-Rythm? by email_address_removed 18) WJ&TU? by nguyen john t ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Thu, 27 Jul 1995 13:02:37 -0400 (EDT) From: "John R. Kotzian" To: email_address_removed (Ytsejam ) Subject: Ages? Message-ID: I was just wondering the ages of Ytsejammerz? I'm 23. Your turn. -John ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 27 Jul 1995 22:33:57 -0300 From: tempus88@nbnet.nb.ca (Vince French) To: email_address_removed Subject: RE: The Drummer IS Most Important Message-ID: <<...a poor bassist in a prog band wouldn't really make much difference...>>?? Are you crazy?? No offence to you, but who do you think Geddy Lee is? He is definitely not expendable. He's an incredible bassist. John Myung is also an incredible bassist. He is somewhat a little less audible than the rest at some times, but at other times, he's at the forefront, and he's a damned good bassist. To me, DT is the prototype Prog Band, where every member is incredibly talented and shows it, in a very great manner. No one member is trying to show off...which may be the case for other bands that depend on their guitarist. They all work and write monstrous tunes together...and that's the key word...together. No one is more important than the other...and that's why DT is a "perfect" progressive band. Vince ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 27 Jul 1995 16:46:11 -0400 From: James Peele To: email_address_removed Cc: Multiple recipients of list Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 904 Message-ID: When will DT play in the Southeast??? I'm still waiting.... It sucks that I did not see DT and FW together.... Ahhhhhhhhhhhhh!!! :) Jay Peele For info on INFERNO, e-mail: email_address_removed ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 27 Jul 1995 16:57:03 -0400 (EDT) From: Anthony To: DT:;@donews.uucp Subject: Dub site CLOSING Message-ID: Hi yjammers! just a note to let you know that my Kevin Moore dub site will be closing for now ... if you have my name and email address on a web page or something listed as a dubbing site , please remove it... thanks a lot! ******************************************************************************* Anthony Kozar "The Divine Spirit found a sublime outlet in Univ. of Toledo that wonder of analysis, that portent of the 1042 Acad. Ctr. ideal world, that amphibian between being email_address_removed and not-being, which we call the imaginary http://www.utoledo.edu/~akozar/ root of negative unity." -- Leibniz ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 28 Jul 1995 09:31:15 +1200 From: euan@waikato.ac.nz To: email_address_removed Subject: Re: JP's acoustic guitar Message-ID: >>Does Petrucci use his classical guitar on any other songs except >>"learning to live"? >> ...Brandon >John plays his acoustic guitar (the nice orange one) at "Silent Man", >"Another Day" (where he doubles kevin's piano line). As well as doubling his electric on the PMU intro... ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 26 Jul 1995 22:54:27 -0400 From: email_address_removed To: email_address_removed Subject: poly-rhythms Message-ID: This is to the guy who asked about poly-rhythms in the 902 Ytsejam. First of all, poly-rhythms are a term to describe when drummers play a part that had two or more rhythmic elements overlapping and played at the same time. A crude way to imagine this is to picture a drummer playing triplets on the ride cymbal with his right hand, and then playing 16th notes on the bass drums with both feet. It'd sound strange, and I've never atually heard such a pattern that I can think of, but it goes back to the idea of Limb Independence. Songs Neal Peart explores this idea with are Bravado(the outro), and Scars. That's all I can think of at the moment, but others may wish to contribute (PLEEZE!!!) Also, you mentioned that Neal Peart "invented" the Poly-Rhythm idea. This is actually an idea that originates in African styles of drumming. And although it's impossible to credit the first North American drummer to incorporate these ideas, generally Max Roach (a hard bop drummer) and Tony Williams (Miles Davis' drummer in the late 60's) were known for their ability to cleanly play difficult polyrhythmic passages. I know that HAIRBALL is going to read this a flip out, so I can rest assured that anything that is incorrect will be corrected. Hope this sort of helps Spudders ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 27 Jul 1995 19:08:41 -0400 (EDT) From: Brian Wherry To: DT List Subject: DT World Premiere on Radio!! Message-ID: Hey y'all! I just read from the usenet that WRCN 94.3/103.9 (I think it's a Long Island Radio Station) will be playing a DT world Premiere around 8:00 on Friday, July 18th (on your way to the Hampton Bays show). Someone PLEASE CHECK THIS OUT!! Who knows? It could be true and we'll have a studio version of ACoS a few months before it comes out!! Thanks! Talk to y'all later! Brian ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 27 Jul 1995 21:12:28 -0400 From: email_address_removed (Joe Kruger) To: email_address_removed Subject: B**ts in Milwaukee Message-ID: I'm traveling to Milwaukee, Wisconsin in a couple of weeks and was wondering if anyone on the list knew of any stores in the area that stock "rare live import recordings", especially DT. Please respond by E-mail if you are as paranoid as the people on alt.music.bootlegs. They think that every query such as this is a covert investigation. Thanks. Joe Joe Kruger ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 27 Jul 1995 23:12:39 -0400 From: email_address_removed To: email_address_removed Subject: . Message-ID: Subscribe Kyle Kruszewski Ytsejam ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 27 Jul 95 20:32:23 PDT From: email_address_removed (Zack Gemmill) To: email_address_removed Subject: Re: Ages? etc... Message-ID: > > I was just wondering the ages of Ytsejammerz? I'm 23. Your turn. > How about having everyone (who's interested) send their ages *to you*, and then you can post a summary to the list, rather than flooding the list with all these demographics? I know traffic is light, but I'm sure September will see things pick up. Zach - 23 !>)> p.s. if anyone in the South Bay wants a copy of _Mind Control_, I saw the remaining copy (I got the other one last week) was still at the Compact Disc Warehouse in Sunnyvale. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 28 Jul 1995 09:09:08 GMT+0100 From: "Ken H ili" To: email_address_removed Subject: A suggestion Message-ID: Let's cancel August so we won't have to wait so long for the ACOS EP. Ken the Slave ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 28 Jul 1995 01:08:00 -0400 (EDT) From: NuGgeTMaN To: email_address_removed Cc: Multiple recipients of list Subject: Re: Ages? Message-ID: 20 going on 21 in December!!! Who'S Next????? :) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- According to the circle of fifths, and the order of sharps and flats: If the alphabet continued as notes progressed (Using Major Key Sigs) (i.e. A, B, C, D, E, F, G, H, I, etc.) eventually the key of Z Major would have 4 sharps. StatisticZ show that if a person is born with Perfect Pitch, chances are they will grow up to be a famous...Baseball Player!!! :) "Just Lighten up and listen to the Music" -Kevin Moore (inside joke) email_address_removed Eric Moegling: email_address_removed email_address_removed fOr MoRE nFo AboUT mE fIngEr: email_address_removed ---------------------------------------------------------------------- On Thu, 27 Jul 1995, John R. Kotzian wrote: > I was just wondering the ages of Ytsejammerz? I'm 23. Your turn. > > > -John > > > ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 27 Jul 1995 23:33:36 -0700 From: email_address_removed (Monty Newberry ) To: email_address_removed Subject: a couple questions Message-ID: I have a couple questions: 1. What do the Ytsejam T-Shirts look like? 2. How can I get one? 3. Does anyone have a copy of the Ronnie Scotts gig they would be willing to copy for me? Thanks a bunch. God bless. Dale R. Newberry "He who eats crackers in the bed of reality gets scratchy." -The Tick ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 27 Jul 1995 22:54:27 EDT From: email_address_removed (MR DEREK J BOBER) To: email_address_removed Subject: DT fans in Philly going to Providence? Message-ID: I was wondering if there are any Dream Theater fans in the Philadelphia area who are going to Providence to see their August 3rd show. I wanted to go with another person or two to the show. If you want to go please contact me at "email_address_removed" See ya later, Derek ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 28 Jul 1995 09:33:12 -0400 From: email_address_removed To: email_address_removed Subject: Re: Ages? Message-ID: I am 16. Jon Dery (Ibanez7) ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 28 Jul 1995 14:34:44 -0400 From: email_address_removed To: email_address_removed Subject: Moshing in NY Message-ID: The experience that the person living in Austrailia described is a good moshing experience. While I still feel moshing is moronic, at least when the people moshing care about each others well-being it is slightly less moronic. But unforunatley any concerts I have gone to that involved moshing were violent. Moshing is violence. Music should NOT inspire violence. I am not by any means a pascifist, but music has and never will inspire anger and viilence within. I believe that anyone who feels the need to mosh in order to hurt someone(this is anyone that moshes, except those that are just doing it cause everyone else is and they feel like bouncing around at a concert) is an idiot. I don't care if I have offended anyone on the 'jam with that statement because I know that I am right and I really don't care what anyone has to say in defense. Moshing=Unnecessary Violence. Phil ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 28 Jul 1995 14:31:16 -0400 From: email_address_removed To: email_address_removed Subject: Polly-Rythm? Message-ID: Was that a joke? MP does not play Polly-rythms, he plays polyrythms which were not invented by a guy named Polly. I can't remember the name of the guy who actually made them into a technique, but I believe he was an instructor and not in a band. A Polyrythm is like a two part rythm. In drumming it would be something like this: The snare drum would go 1-2-3-1-2-3-1-2-3-1-2-3, etc.... and while that was happening the cymbal might be played 1-2-3-4-1-2-3-4-1-2-3-4, etc.... all in the same amount of time that the snare was doing the 1-2-3. A Polyrythm can be played on a band level as well with the drummer playing at a different rythm than the rest of the band. I believe that the beginning of the Mirror involves polyrythms. Also at the end of TTT, as the song is fading out you can hear MP change the feel of the music while the band keeps playing the same thing. This too I believe is polyrythmical. If someone who knows more about them than I do can back me up or correct me it would be appreciated. Phil ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 28 Jul 1995 14:21:45 -0500 (CDT) From: nguyen john t To: email_address_removed Subject: WJ&TU? Message-ID: Hello to y'all (I'm a Kansan!). Anyway, special hellos to Mike Bahr (who posts the MOST interesting info to the 'ole JAM!). I'd just like to add my $.02 about the new title Mike put on his WHEN DREAM & JAMES UNITE project: "When Dream and Today Unite". Well, I like the title, but not after I had already gotten used to the old one. Mike, if this was the origional title, I would've LOVED it, but the old one seems to fit more. Still, who am I to argue with the heart and soul of the YTSEJAM!!!??? One more thing, will you be putting YTSEJAM on it? No one's really ever mentioned doing that and I don't think you have either. Just curious. Of course, it would seem illogical NOT to put it on there, so I don't even know why or what I'm asking. I must be too tires (baby kept me up a while last night!). a status seeker, John Nguyen a.k.a. NUPRIN ------------------------------ End of YTSEJAM Digest 905 *************************