YTSEJAM Digest 878 Today's Topics: 1) Re: YTSEJAM digest 876 by Michael Van Opstall 2) A bunch of stuff by Rob Weychert 3) FW setlist? by Mats Rydstr\vm 4) Re: DT in SB by Tilman Kuendgen 5) Cygnus by email_address_removed 6) Other Bands by email_address_removed (David B. Kuznick) 7) Re: ManOWar?! by email_address_removed (Scott Fleming x255) 8) DT fan Delurks! Film at 11:00. by email_address_removed (MR PATRICK M SULLIVAN) 9) Re: 2 short things by Anderson/Noah Nordrum 10) :)another long post:( by email_address_removed (Randall Braun) 11) Lisa Dalbello by email_address_removed.co.uk (Mark Tiplady) 12) Subcon or Better late than never by email_address_removed (Kevin Madden) 13) Request for TAB by Jeff Stewart 14) DT as a universal language (and other subjects) by Learning to live 15) Re: Me. by NuGgeTMaN 16) To Andy by email_address_removed (Jeff Forte) 17) Saarbruecken by email_address_removed.de (Steffen Barabasch) 18) t-shirt by "WAL R VAN DER" ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 3 Jul 1995 09:11:09 -0400 (EDT) From: Michael Van Opstall To: email_address_removed Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 876 Message-ID: La francais? Je la parle... Je me souviendrai toujours le fraicheur de Novembre aussi, je pense que Mike Portnoy se le souviendra aussi bien que nous. Anyway...I just recently (redundant) picked up A Kick Into A Dream...It's pretty good. The first two or three songs sound pretty bad, TOWHTSTS sounds better tha it does on WDADU. JP goes crazy at the end of TTT. I like the Awake stuuf, but neither vocals nor keyboard soloing can be heard on 6:00. I'm glad Portnoy's drum solo is better this time. Another Day is, however, almost completely ruined by a group of fans that cannot sing. It sounds terrible. Also, Portnoy uses the questionable word at the end. My favorite guitarists? In no particular order: John Petrucci, Steve Morse, George Ochoa, Yngwie, Gary Hoey Je vous parlerai plus tard...amusez-vous... M.A. VanOpstall email_address_removed ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 3 Jul 1995 10:51:15 -0400 (EDT) From: Rob Weychert To: email_address_removed Subject: A bunch of stuff Message-ID: Howdy all, Today's my first day off in 19 days, so I figured I should check my e-mail...Yikes! There were 18 Ytsejams waiting for me since June 20th! I decided to read the last two and save the others. Anyway, the point here is that I haven't been around in awhile (I know y'all missed me ;) and I've got some stuff to mention: 1) Is anyone else as disappointed with the new Primus album (Tales from the Punchbowl) as I am? To me it just seems really forced; I'm turned off by it and if it hasn't started growing on me yet (it came out nearly a month ago), I don't think it will. Any input is appreciated. 2) InstruMENTAL II: Great CD! I don't know if I like it as much as the first InstruMENTAL, but it certainly has its moments. If the YYZ cover wasn't on a Dream Theater CD, I wouldn't have known it wasn't Rush--and I STILL have my doubts! The Metropolis demo is great; Another Won sounds better than on the Majesty Demo (probably due to the lack of Chris Collins), The Farandole is really cool! I've never heard any Talas songs that I've been aware of, so I can't comment on it as compared to the original. ACOS is great as usual; Stars is a pretty, quiet piece that has to have been done during the Majesty period; Mission: Impossible is of course, neato, but not as cool as the live one on Lost in the Sky IMHO; Light Guitar Piece sums itself up rather well; Long Island Sound is VERY 80s; and the 'Guitar Player' Spotlight II is good but IMHO lacks the fresh sound of the first one. Also, I think Somewhere Under the Rainbow is kind of gratuitous and overdone. That's my synopsis of InstruMENTAL II! 3) Rising Power: Power for the People--11 words: I'm glad Mike Portnoy decided to pursue other avenues of music!! Wow, is this CD cheesy! (I don't mean to offend anyone who genuinely enjoys it, this just really isn't my thing.) Standard-fare, early to mid-eighties hard rock; pretty bad stuff, IMHO. And Peter Best is no lyricist: "You come home from a day at school / You don't want to hear about any rules / You've had enough discipline for one day / But someone's bound to get in your way"--Whoa! :) Anyway, this CD is still worth the $25 for the pictures of 16-18 year old Mike and his leather-and-spikes-clad bandmates, as well as getting a listen to Portnoy's impressive playing at an early age. 4) Last one: Okay, I gave out the Ytsejam e-mail address and instructions how to get on the 'jam to a guy (whose name I never got) at the June 9th Birch Hill show in NJ. I'm sorry I never got your name, but I know your friend's name was James (the guy who had been to 21 DT shows before this one and had skads of bootlegs and stuff) and he knew someone who had a DAT of that (June 9) show. If you're out there in cyberspace reading this, PLEASE e-mail me! I MUST have a copy of this show (as it was the best live DT performance I've ever heard)! I know I've got a bunch of stuff that James doesn't have, so maybe we could work out a trade. If you don't remember, I was the one with the Nightmare Before Christmas hat, Infectious Grooves t-shirt, glasses and red ponytail; I was amongst those of you that 'snuck' backstage! In any case, if you got this message, please e-mail me at: email_address_removed If anyone else has a copy of this show, please let me know; I MUST HAVE IT!! Thanks; I hope to hear from you soon! Sorry this post was so long! --ROb Currently in the CD changer: GWAR-This Toilet Earth, Faith No More-King for a Day...Fool for a Lifetime, Echolyn-As the World ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 3 Jul 1995 17:19:55 +0200 (MET DST) From: Mats Rydstr\vm To: Ytsejam Subject: FW setlist? Message-ID: Hi! When DT played here back in february my band had also got a gig the same night. I missed both FW and the first DT songs. DT had an excellent jazz-improv due to technical problems during PMU, does this exist on some form of recording? Well, Swedish National Radio records a whole lot of concerts nowadays, almost every day there's one hour-long performance. The recording of DT's 2nd 1993 show ended up on 'Majestic Harmonies'. I'm keeping an ear open for a recording of the latest show! But, what I'd like to know is which songs did FW play? I wasn't a FW-fan back then but now, thanks to you helpful jammers, I just love FW and I would like to know what I missed! Thanks! Oh, one last thing: Swedish TV5 did a 10-min interview with James and Mike a while back, the interviewer asked why Kevin had left and they said all the things we already know. But then there was the question: But did you feel that you had to have another keyboard-player? Mike and James looked confused at each other and said well, yes! My band has always been confronted with the same problems, whenever we played gigs with sound-guys unknown to us, the keys were completely drowned. When we asked them to turn the keys up they usually looked all confused and asked why? ;-) Well, now we're not together anymore, so I'm kindof looking for a new band...don't know if I'll find one :-( /Mats ________________________________________________________________________ / Mats Rydstrom - email_address_removed.se - http://www.nada.kth.se/~d94-mry / /-----------------------------------------------------------------------/ / "We can hope for the future, though there may not be one" - ACOS / /_______________________________________________________________________/ ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 3 Jul 1995 17:43:13 +0200 (MET DST) From: Tilman Kuendgen To: email_address_removed Subject: Re: DT in SB Message-ID: Hi you all! Just a few things about DT playing Saarbruecken: ACOS: Awesome.Very heavy in some parts (JP plays the whole thing with his 7-string. A passage at the beginning reminds me of The Mirror, I don't know if this is just because of the heavy 7-string sound, but lots of parts are based on the low B. (->The Mirror/Lie). No Fuck. At the first listen, I don't remember they changed so much in the various parts of the song, they just added 3 or 4 new parts (especially at the beginning of the song, so that the song is longer now. The clean parts sound very dark on the low B, Cool! Mike mentioned that there is a good chance that there will be 40(!) minutes of the Ronnie Scotts gig on the "E.P." (seems that they will even beat their LatM "E.P.". Alice in Chains: Again that AIC song "Rooster" just before the show, with the volume turned up, like a "pre-intro" (Who knows what the funny "real" intro was from?). Seems that they like AIC (me too!). Ok, bye for now, Tilman. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 03 Jul 1995 09:14:25 MST From: email_address_removed To: email_address_removed Subject: Cygnus Message-ID: Hey everyone!!! I remember reading about Cygnus a few digests back. Can anyone send me the info for that ??? Any help would be greatly appreciated !!!!!! THanks. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 3 Jul 95 10:15:26 -0400 From: email_address_removed (David B. Kuznick) To: email_address_removed Subject: Other Bands Message-ID: > Date: Sat, 1 Jul 1995 00:36:04 -0400 (EDT) > From: email_address_removed (Trey Allen) > > OZRIC TENTICALS Ozric Tentacles > Have you guys ever heard of a band called Ozric Tenticals? They are a > pretty cool sound. No vocals, just instrumental. In a way they remind > me of Yanni. Oh man, are you going to give people the wrong impression! They sound like Hawkind and Gong mostly, but w/o the silliness that I find detracts from Gong. EXTREMELY cool, and the guitarist can shred! They are all really good musicians: guitar, keys, bass, drums, flute (but REAL spaced-out flute). The first time I heard the opneing track, "Dots Thots" off of the _Live Underslunky_ album (which, btw, is one of the best live albums EVER and a great place to start), I thought "Where have you guys been all my life!" They are prog but kind of a new type of prog. But not neo-progressive (i.e. not like Marillion). Lots of > really weird sounds (guitar-synth, rainmaker, strange processor effects). > Try them out! They're in a genre called neo-psychedelic or psych/prog. One of my favorites. And they are absolutely incredible live, with one of the best light shows I've ever seen. New album due out this fall. I think most people here would like 'em, if you don't mind the spaciness. > CYNIC > Another pretty cool prog band. These guys are more on the heavier side > than DT. They kind of sound like Death only very prog. Sort of a > prog/death/fusion thing. Check them out also. If they would just shitcan the singer (which I've heard they have plans to do), I'ld listen to it more often, 'cause instrumentally, it's quite good. Just hard to get past that ridiculous growling nonsense. > ALSO, > Someone tell me which Rush album to get, I have the YYZ one and Presto > but not all that impressed. Tell me which ones are most progressive (DT > style). The most prog. one is probably Hold Your Fire, but it's not as agressive. Their latest, Counterparts has quite a bit of heaviness on it. Their earlier stuff is a lot heavier. Try 2112. David Kuznick - email_address_removed (preferred) or email_address_removed Everybody knows we live in a world where they give bad names to beautiful things. Everybody knows we live in a world where we don't give beautiful things a second glance. Heaven only knows we live in a world where what we call beautiful is just something on sale. "Beautiful" - MARILLION ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 3 Jul 95 09:30:55 PDT From: email_address_removed (Scott Fleming x255) To: email_address_removed Subject: Re: ManOWar?! Message-ID: <9507031630.AA23214@ osi> ----- Begin Included Message ----- HOW CAN YOU LIKE MANOWAR?! ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ Hello everyone, This is really a reply to Aviad, and not a flame. Just a follow up :) My CD and Album collection go way back, actually way, way, way back. I have a pretty big collection by now. With Manowar it deals mainly with the vocals and drums as opposed to lyrics. They have a hard and clean sound. You think Manowar is bad, how about: Racer-X, Exciter, Accept, Iron Maiden, Saxon, Zebra, UFO, Hellenback, Agent Steel, Malice, Fates Warning, Raven, Loudness, and Warlord to name a few. As for DT doing a cover of a Maiden song, I'd like to hear them play "Phantom of the Opera" or "Sanctuary" Have a good day. Peace! -scottf ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 03 Jul 1995 12:19:46 EDT From: email_address_removed (MR PATRICK M SULLIVAN) To: email_address_removed Subject: DT fan Delurks! Film at 11:00. Message-ID: Another Ytse-fan de-lurks. :) I want to to answer some of the many open- ended questions thrown out the last few weeks. 1) What do I do for a living - I'm a Computer Programmer/Technician. Hope to go back to school for my Masters' in the near future. 2) First DT moment - Heard PMU on the radio, then saw the video on MTV. The Napalm Death T-shirt caught my eye, it seemed out of place with the music. I bought I&W shortly after and have been hooked ever since. 3) Favorite DT moment - The first (and only) time I saw them live (so far). I saw the first date on the "Waking Up The World" tour in Providence. Only serious, debilitating injury will make me miss another show. :) And to the person inquiring about stereo systems, I have one like your old system right now: Kenwood 8060 Pro-Logic Receiver, Kenwood 6+1 CD, and Bose 301's. Space limitations prevent me from expanding at present. I'm moving soon, though, and an amp, EQ, and new speakers are high on my list. I'm leaning toward either CV or Infiniti Sterling Series. BCNU Pat Sullivan - email_address_removed - "Mastermind, choose and decide for you. - Not one thing left for your brain to do; - it's wasting away." - Vicious Rumors "Now the Miracle and the Sleeper know that the third is love, Love is the dance of eternity" -D ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 3 Jul 1995 14:09:01 -0500 (CDT) From: Anderson/Noah Nordrum To: email_address_removed Subject: Re: 2 short things Message-ID: > 2) For that guy who keeps asking how people can read and reply to a > message at the same time, you can have your jams mailed individually as > they are sent to ytsejam@arastar.com. If you are running in an X-windows enviornment you can log onto your system twice and read in one window, and write in another window, much like if you were using Microsoft Windows or IBM O/S2. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 3 Jul 1995 12:11:14 -0700 From: email_address_removed (Randall Braun) To: email_address_removed Subject: :)another long post:( Message-ID: > Today's rock trivia question: Rainbow was started by Ritchie Blackmore >from the remnants of a band that had been opening for Deep Purple. >Although most of you can name the now-well-known vocalist for that band, >what was name of that band? > I believe it was JennieBear that mentioned 'Yanni Live at the Acropolis' >is often played on PBS at pledge times. At least in the Fresno area, they >have also played 'Tubular Bells 2' by Mike Oldfield. This live >performance was recorded outdoors at a castle in England in '93 or '94. I >would highly recommend this. Since MO did most of the instrumentation on >the original CD, his (excellent) backup band has 3-4 guitarists plus a >bassist, 3-4 keyboardists plus a pianist, 2 percussionists, plus a number >of others, including an actual Scottish Bag and Drum Corp. Another really >neat feature is that MO has a small video camera mounted on the body of >his main electric (a Harmony, I believe) that looks up across the bridge >up the frets. Great prog stuff. The local PBS station has also shown >ELP's recent 'Welcome Back...' video; has a lot of vintage and recent live >concert segments and interviews with the band; highly recommended. Also >the Moody Blue at RedRocks, but the guys are getting a little too old, >IMHO. >What kind of electric guitar does Carlos Santana usually play (the red >one). I can usually identify most of the common designs, but his escapes >me. He also made an interesting acoustic album with John McLaughlin and >Al DiMeola a few years ago. >For he who felt really SORRY for the jammer in Fresno, There's at least >three of us (Mark, Rob and I). If there are any more of us, please let us >know. Maybe if there are enough of us in central and northern California, >we can get a DT concert in the Sacto or SF Bay area!! >I mentioned Tony Iommi in my last post. I just heard Rush's 'Working >Man'; Alex' solo, IMHO, sounds alot like Black Sabb at that time. >In Jam 874, someone decried that Genesis' LLDOB hadn't been previously >mentioned in the concept album thread; I know that I and a number of >others had already mentioned it, although not in as much detail. >Also in Jam 874, someone asked about Maiden's mascot. His (more complete) >name is 'Crazy Eddie'. I'm not sure of the origin, but the name appears >in Niven & Pournelle's SciFi classic 'The Mote in God's Eye' (and the >more recent sequel, 'The Gripping Hand'), although I think its even older >than that. Got this info originally from my beautiful blond >cross-continent friend :( >In Jam 781, Andrew mentioned that Dann Huff had played on 'quit a few >christian rock albums.' Which Ones? You can Email me directly, but I think >there might be some other Y'Jammers that might like to know as well. >Since I've already expressed my own Christian beliefs, IMO the whole >christian music scene (with a few exceptions, i.e., Kerry Livgren) >basically sucks, and that most of these 'artists' couldn't cut it in the >secular music world. I would be glad to find some other exceptions. >How I found out about DT. Basically by accident. When I was in grad >school in SoCal there was a progressive rock show called StoneTrek (after >DJ Greg Stone) on the major LA AOR station (KLOS fm95.5) every Sunday >morning. Since I was leaving for church, I was recording the show on >tape; when I listened to the tape, among the songs was 'Light Fuse and Get >Away' from WDADU. Then some months later after I'd moved back to Fresno, >the local AOR DT DJ played a short(?) segments of IAW featuring, PMU, >Metropolis and LTL. I purchased the CD soon therafter; this DT DJ also >played some stuff off of Awake (6:00, Erotomania and Scarred) before the >CD was officially released; I got that CD on the first day of release. --Randall L. Braun 'To write or to speak is almost inevitably to lie a little. It is an attempt to clothe an intangible in tangible form; to compress an immeasurable into a mold. And in the act of compression, how Truth is mangled and torn!' -- Anne Morrow Lindbergh Christianity is a relationship, not a religion ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 3 Jul 95 21:15 BST-1 From: email_address_removed.co.uk (Mark Tiplady) To: email_address_removed Subject: Lisa Dalbello Message-ID: In-Reply-To: > >> "Maybe i'm wrong, maybe i'm right" > >> "Maybe i'm some kind of lunatic" > >> Queensryche - "Gonna get close to you > >> ^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^* > > >Lisa Dalbello wrote those lyrics :) I've been searching for her stuff > >for ages. Anyone on the list have her "Who Man Four Says"? > Yeah, I've got both Who Man Four Says (geddit?) and her follow-up which is called She. WMFS is excellent. Really sparse arrangements (put together with the late Mick Ronson) and a _very_ sinister undertone to the whole thing. Gonna Get Close To You is on this (it was hearing the QR version that prompted me to search out the original), as is Wait For An Answer which was covered by Heart on Bad Animals. She (the album, not the singer :) is more commercial but still has that threatening feeling running through it. As Jaime said, she's a Canadian artist so Canada's probably the best place to start looking although I'd assume that both albums are now long deleted. Mark. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 3 Jul 1995 19:11:42 -0400 From: email_address_removed (Kevin Madden) To: email_address_removed Subject: Subcon or Better late than never Message-ID: <9507032311.AA23018@> Hello list, Well, today I finally got my Subcon. (No fault of Mike's - I failed to send the $ forever) In tradition of reviewing the tracks, I give you my opinion (key word) of the first 6 tracks. Maybe later I will do the rest. 1. "Vigil" - To me this song sounds like (if it didn't have samples) an obscure Rainbow song, Weiss Heim (or hiem, can I spell?) that was on the Final Vynal (told you I couldn't spell today) cd. 2. Change of Seasons - Pretty cool. I already had a tape of this song so it was no big shock. Why does James remind of the singer from Europe at times on this track? 3. O Holy Night - ok. Charlie we hardly knew ya. 4. Carry That Weight - Sounds like something off of "Never Say Die" by Black Sabbath (side two - if you own this, you know what I am talking about.) John's sound is somewhat reminiscent of Brian May on this track. 5. Don't Look Past Me - ok. I am really glad that DT doesn't sound like this anymore. Yeach! Pop-prog. I kinda liked John Arch's demo of this better. (But then I liked John Arch's version of the Killing Hand better than Labrie's...) 6. Wanted DOA - Should be DOA - Dead on Arrival, not Dead or Alive Overall, I am on my second listen to the whole thing. My overall impression is favorable. Feel free to disagree with my associations to other bands. -- Kevin Madden (email_address_removed) Butter Cookies - A Product of Denmark, kinda like my Gramma ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 3 Jul 1995 20:02:21 -0500 (CDT) From: Jeff Stewart To: email_address_removed Subject: Request for TAB Message-ID: Hey all! I was wondering if anyone here has figured out any of the guitar parts to "To Live Forever", especially the intro. If anyone has learned it and has been able to tab it out, please e-mail it too me and/or post it on the jam. Thanks a bunch! Jeff Stewart email_address_removed ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 3 Jul 1995 23:12:36 -0400 (EDT) From: Learning to live To: email_address_removed Subject: DT as a universal language (and other subjects) Message-ID: A few digests back, THE JACK wrote this: >Hello to everyone, >I'm from Rimouski, Quebec, Canada and here we are hardcore fans of Dream >Theater >this my first message here and I'm not a perfectly english >speaking.......but I know very well the musik language of Dream >Theater......The greatest band in the universe! Welcome to the list, Jack! Nice to hear of another jammer from that good old province of Quebec... I myself am one of a small group of hardcore DT fans from Rouyn-Noranda, in case the name rings any bells. I'm currently living in Ottawa where (to contribute to an ongoing thread) I work for a computer phone support company between two years of studying computer science at the U of O. French is my native language too, so I can relate. But I guess we all speak the same language anyway (beside English). Another thread: I got into DT after reading an article a friend of mine wrote for the student newspaper back home. There's no way any radio station there would have played some Dream Theater; it's a rather small town, and the main station played mostly dance music. Anyway, the article convinced me to buy Images & Words, which me and my brother loved. He got his friends to listen to it, word spread around, and there are possibly more DT fans over there than in any other town that size... An aside: yes, The Crow is great. I bought the trade paperback and I heartily recommend it (not to the squeamish, though). The ending still tends to baffle me, though... And for those of you who aren't too sick of Batman, there's Arkham Asylum, a trade paperback with great painted art by Dave McKean and a twisted story about madness by Grant Morison. Salutations to JennieBear, whom I met on IRC recently. It seems this #ytsejam channel is working. Don't remember who first mentioned it, but it's a good idea. Finally, going back to The Jack's letter: >Do you speak french? I want to tell you something; Les marchants de reve >font de la musique divine, je ne pourrais plus m'en passe! >If someone translate........tell to all others :-) ) ) ) ) ) Si ca peut te faire plaisir... It means "The dream merchants make divine music, I couldn't live without it!" (approximately). Enough for now, this is getting long. Farewell... Eric --Eric Gauthier-------------------_----_--___-_-_--__-_--_-_--_-__-_---_-_ email_address_removed.ca "And much of Madness, and more of Sin, http://aix2.uottawa.ca/~s800690 and Horror the soul of the plot." ------------------------------------------- - Poe, "The Conqueror Worm" - ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 3 Jul 1995 12:41:33 -0400 (EDT) From: NuGgeTMaN To: John Petrucci Cc: Multiple recipients of list Subject: Re: Me. Message-ID: Hehehe Hey GuyZ John P. Actually is online!!!!! Of Course he'Z the Best...with the second runner up Bein' George Lynch...we all knew this already :) hehe ---------------------------------------------------------------------- According to the circle of fifths, and the order of sharps and flats: If the alphabet continued as notes progressed (Using Major Key Sigs) (i.e. A, B, C, D, E, F, G, H, I, etc.) eventually the key of Z Major would have 4 sharps. StatisticZ show that if a person is born with Perfect Pitch, chances are they will grow up to be a famous...Baseball Player!!! :) email_address_removed Eric Moegling: email_address_removed email_address_removed fOr MoRE nFo AboUT mE fIngEr: email_address_removed ---------------------------------------------------------------------- On Mon, 3 Jul 1995, John Petrucci wrote: > ENOUGH!!! Stop bickering about who's the *best* guitarist. Everbody knows > that it's me! :> > > -JP > > > P.S. *This is a joke* > > > ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 4 Jul 1995 02:27:54 -0400 From: email_address_removed (Jeff Forte) To: email_address_removed Subject: To Andy Message-ID: Sorry to take up space on the list with this. Andy, I accidentally deleted all my mail along with your e-mail and home address. Could you send it to me again. Thanks Later ________________________________________________________________________________ Jeff Forte email_address_removed "Heaven must be more than this, when angels waken with a kiss, sacred hearts won't take the pain, but mine will never be the same." --Kevin Moore "A twisted soul--the mortar Despair--the bricks To build a temple to sadness" J. O'Barr "The Crow" ________________________________________________________________________________ ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 4 Jul 1995 11:19:48 +0200 (MESZ) From: email_address_removed.de (Steffen Barabasch) To: email_address_removed (Ytsejam List) Subject: Saarbruecken Message-ID: Hi! I had no chance to write about the german mini-Ytsecon in Saarbruecken until now, and I think everything is said already. Oh, I was the one with the Big Mac. I was holding my marker which was used during our "signing session", so I just HAD to say that... About the new ACOS: All the parts I loved in the live version are still there, I just need to get used to the new vocal lines. Andrew Keegan asked about the CARPE DIEM tattoo on Mike Portnoy's arm. It is not new, he got it last year. His newest one is on the other arm, from the Japan tour. Some Japanese letters... "What does it mean?" - "Mikey!" Thanks to all making this possible. See you again next time! Steffen ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 4 Jul 1995 11:44:04 MET From: "WAL R VAN DER" To: email_address_removed Subject: t-shirt Message-ID: Hey Fellow-Jammers, This will be my second or third post now, so please forgive me if my questions or remarks have been passing 'ytsejam' before. My main question is: how can I get an 'Ytsejam t-shirt'? If you know the answer, please e-mail me. Let me tell me something about myself. I'm 19 years old and I'm a second year student in physics. I've been playing the guitar for about 4 years now and I worship Vai, Satriani & Petrucci (random order). After I've seen DT in Utrecht (Holland) i've been convinced that DT is technically the best band in the world. NO DOUBT ABOUT THAT! About a month ago I bought the guitar-tab book from I&W .... it really was a setback. I thought I could play quite descent, but seeing what John does on this album really shocked me. Guess I have to practice harder. Well, that's it for today. Bye all P.S.: Has anyone seen Vai's new hairdo .... it's really cool IMHO #walking the fine line between pagan and christian# (Vai, 'for the love of God') Rogier van der Wal email_address_removed.nl ------------------------------ End of YTSEJAM Digest 878 *************************