YTSEJAM Digest 848 Today's Topics: 1) ECHOLYN - no Dt content by email_address_removed (John Jens, Jr.) 2) +++SPOILERS+++ Dt in NJ by Andrew Keegan 3) Re: YTSEJAM digest 847 by Jeremy Longley 4) Re: YTSEJAM digest 847 by email_address_removed (Marc Respass) 5) Re: YTSEJAM digest 847 by email_address_removed (Marc Respass) 6) Live in NJ!! by Rob Weychert 7) by Ben Kobashigawa 8) Re: #1(2) YTSEJAM digest 847 by email_address_removed 9) Re: #1(2) YTSEJAM digest 847 by email_address_removed 10) by Ben Kobashigawa 11) Dt unplugged! by Anthony 12) Awake tab (The Mirror) by Stanton R Guy 13) (INFERNO review) Screaming in Digital, v194 (fwd) by James Peele 14) Are we back to this AGAIN?! by Hairball 15) Misc. fragmented things by Rachel Goldenberg 16) Unplugged is a sell-out NOT! by Nathan Benjamin Meezan 17) Re: Are we back to this AGAIN?! by email_address_removed (Dr. Mosh) 18) UK Tour Dates? by "CC. Butterworth" ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Sat, 10 Jun 1995 11:15:19 -0400 From: email_address_removed (John Jens, Jr.) To: email_address_removed Subject: ECHOLYN - no Dt content Message-ID: hey all, i'll be at the show tonite (6/10) at the Bayou wearing my Yste Jam t-shirt. i've never heard *any* of their stuff but u guyz n galz keep goin on 'bout them. so hey, for $6 why not? hope to see U there :) -john [21 daze 'til Yanni] [24 daze 'til Queensryche] [43 +5 daze 'til +Live+] john c. jens, jr. email_address_removed http://www.site.gmu.edu/~jjens/ 'anger is a constructive emotion, hate is not' -MJK ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 10 Jun 1995 12:36:49 -0400 (EDT) From: Andrew Keegan To: email_address_removed Cc: Multiple recipients of list Subject: +++SPOILERS+++ Dt in NJ Message-ID: I saw the show in New Jersey last night. Skip this message if you are going to the show in NY next week and don't want any details. ++++SPOILERS++++++ +++++SPOILERS++++++ First off, Mike's drum sound was incredible- they must have worked all day on this. Mike was also incredible, and he's one of the few drummers that makes me take notice at a live show. The show was very different than the early Awake shows that I saw. They opened with Under A Glass Moon and then went into The Mirror/Lie. They also played Surrounded and 2 new jams. Oh yeah- they also played A Change Of Season. They dropped the following: 6:00, Another Day, Metropolis. Maybe one or two more. They played Learning To Live as the encore which was prefaced by an acoustic Wait For Sleep. The show was 130 minutes!!! Great show! I'm sure there's more details, but someone else will have to fill you in on them :) I can't wait to see the show again on Tuesday. Andy PS to Brian Cox- I met your friend David at the show ;) email_address_removed ============================================================== "Live fast, "There's only one way Be a spark and glow awhile of life, You'll be dead a long, long time" And that's your own" -B. Geldof - Levellers ============================================================== ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 10 Jun 1995 18:35:14 +0100 (BST) From: Jeremy Longley To: email_address_removed Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 847 Message-ID: On Sat, 10 Jun 1995 ytsejam@arastar.com wrote: > > Mike Patrick wrote: > > >Um, this has been talked about before, but ever heard of Stu Hamm? I bet > > >John Myung has. > > Yeah, he has. I talked to him about it - hard to get John to > talk, ya know? He said, "Oh Yeah! He's a Monster!" (and that was it!) > > Stu at his best? God...um...I like "Radio Free Albemuth","Kings > Of Sleep," and stuff off of "The Urge," including his 'Quahhogs, Anyone?' > live bass solo...and he's always great on any live Satriani you can come > across. Far better than that Matt "Mr. 8th Notes" Bissonette character. > Blech. > ************************************************************ _Finally_ ! someone who shares my distaste for Matt Bissonette!! I reckon he's the real reason DLRs "A Little Ain't Enough" flopped... ;-P Cheerz, Jezza _ _ jcl1008@ The way your heart sounds makes all (_)___ ________ _| | cam.ac.uk the difference; it's what decides if | / -_)_ /_ / _` |_| Jeremy Longley you'll endure the pain we all feel. _/ \___/__/__\__,_(_) Selwyn College The way your heart beats makes all |__/ Cambridge The difference in learning to live. ^`'~*-,._.^`'~*-,._.^`'~*-,._.^`'~*-,._.^`'~*-,._.^`'~* - Dream Theater. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 10 Jun 1995 15:01:42 -0500 From: email_address_removed (Marc Respass) To: email_address_removed Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 847 Message-ID: >I know the response so far has been overwhelmingly for Unplugged, but I'd >like to make a vote for WDAJU. I guess it's because of how the whole >acoustic thing has been beaten to death and beyond by eMpTyV (Clapton and >STP on rotation every 5 mins.). It's just way too damn trendy. You know. I remember Pete Townsend doing awesome versions of classic Who tunes with nothing but himself on acoustic guitar and vocals. Luckily, MTV doesn't play videos any more, just Speed Racer, and I don't watch enough TV, so I've really missed the whole acoustic thing. I'm thinking that DT would sound a lot like the way Townsend did that stuff - awesome. Just my 2 cents Marc Respass email_address_removed http://www.iii.net/users/mer.html ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 10 Jun 1995 15:01:47 -0500 From: email_address_removed (Marc Respass) To: email_address_removed Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 847 Message-ID: > someone wrote: > Maybe we SHOULD do a petition of some sort > WE WANT THE BASS TABLATURE. NOW!! >likewise for the DRUMS!!!! (anyone agree?) >(if I'm mistaken and they're out somewhere, please let me know!) > email_address_removed No way! If I had the music to the guitar, bass and drums (the keyboards are transcribed for guitar) I'd be rippin' off so much Dream Theater it wouldn't be funny. The bass parts would be cool so I could learn 'em. The drum parts would land in my computer's sequencer then on any tunes I write. Of course, if you start a drummer's petition I'll sign it :) Marc Respass email_address_removed http://www.iii.net/users/mer.html ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 10 Jun 1995 15:00:09 -0400 (EDT) From: Rob Weychert To: email_address_removed Subject: Live in NJ!! Message-ID: Hello all, I was going to post this when I got home this morning, but I was just too damn tired. Last night I attended DT's first show in the US in '95! It was an experience to remember! I will tell you all about it--with spoilers, of course, for those of you attending the Malibu show in a couple days (though I'm not sure everything will be the same). I apologize for the length of the following, but this is my first Dream Theater show we're talking about! Okay, I arrived at the Birch Hill Nite Club in Old Bridge, NJ at about 7:45 or so and got in the line for the door (which would be opening at 8:30). I was looking around for Ytsejam shirts and it wasn't long before I found one: worn by Jason Giuliani (sp?), who won't be back to the list 'til September. If you recall, he had a post a while back about his girlfriend getting a photo pass for the legendary Ronnie Scotts gig. We talked for some time about music, mostly progressive stuff, and he spent some time singing the praises of Echolyn, so I was getting psyched to see what these guys were like. Unfortunately, I didn't get to meet any other Ytsejammers, but Jason and his friends were really nice! Probably at about 8:40 we got into the club. The first thought that entered my mind: TINY!! This club was small! As people began to pack themselves in like sardines, various music (mostly hard rock stuff) played over the PA, and after several selections from the Bill and Ted's Bogus Journey soundtrack (the final one being Primus), the first band, Kill By Inches, took the stage at about 9:50. They were a standard, loud, five piece sub-par mediocre thrash band who stole more than one riff from Prong and Pantera and Lord knows who else. They weren't without talent but they most certainly were without their own sound, and the singer seemed to think he could get the croud pumped by saying 'fuck' as much as possible, something that James Hetfield can do masterfully, but this guy's NO James Hetfield (according to him, our unenthusiastic croud was "better than fuckin' sex!!"). Most of the croud seemed happy to see them leave the stage when they did at about 10:30 or so. More music over the PA, more videos that did not correspond to the music on the PA played on the TVs (Prong, Infectious Grooves, Fight, Sepultura, Alice Cooper, Biohazard/Onyx), and even more people packed into this tiny club. At about 11:00, Echolyn took the stage. The guitarist, vocalist, and keyboardist immediately began speaking all at once, saying completely different things, establishing that they had not only a sense of humor but a terrific stage presence as well! And then they started playing. Wow. Loud, unpredictable, and progressive as all hell! These guys were great!! For the next 45 minutes they wowed me with their musicianship and intracacy (kinda reminiscent of Kansas) and harmonies (consisting of the vocalist, guitarist, and keysman). They had refreshing energy and they looked like they were loving every minute of it but working hard at the same time. They left the stage at about 11:45. I will pick up their CD, As the World, tomorrow! Nearly an hour passed and the croud was getting restless waiting for Dream Theater. The kings finally took the stage at about 12:35 or so and began their magic! Here's the setlist: Under a Glass Moon The Mirror/Lie Lifting Shadows Off a Dream Instrumental Jam Caught in a Web (w/ drum solo in the middle) Surrounded Keyboard Solo A Mind Beside Itself Erotomania Voices The Silent Man Guitar Solo Pull Me Under A Change of Season (new and improved!) Encore ~~~~~ Wait For Sleep (on acoustic guitar!) Learning to Live Oh my God, they were great. James sounded better than I've ever heard him sound. His voice did not crack a single time; he hit every note right on the money!! Of course, everyone else sounded terrific--Mike's solo was new and his best I've ever heard, John's solo was a beautiful bluesy piece with keys accompaniment, Derek's solo was powerful, melodic and in parts gothic with a great intro into Erotomania. The instrumental jam was totally new (as far as I know) and according to Mike, it's a new song they're working on. And then there was the new A Change of Season. Wow. 23 minutes long and quite a bit different from the original version, though not so drastic a change that it can't be recognized. I did hear that big fat 'fuck' in there and I'm still not sure how I feel about it. I guess I'll have to wait for the studio version. Anyway, a lot of idiots left during A Change of Season, but that was good for me, because it meant I could breathe during the encore, which just happened to be my favorite DT song (Learning to Live)! All in all, one absolutely spectacular show. DT left the stage at about 2:45 I think. I and my friend Brian (who is off the list for the summer) decided to wait out back and see if they would come out. I met a guy named James who has seen DT 22 TIMES! We talked about bootlegs and rare stuff for awhile before going to the back door to see if we could get in and see the guys. We walked right in and some guy told us where to go, before stopping us when he realized we didn't have passes! So we hung out outside for awhile longer and tried again about 10 minutes later, this time successfully! First, I talked to John Myung. Very soft-spoken and polite, a really nice guy. I told him how much I enjoyed the show and I told him he should have his own solo. He replied that he didn't really feel the need to solo, but it wasn't out of the question for it to happen some day. We talked about the changes in ACOS and he asked if I was a musician (I explained that I love to play the drums, but I'm not really a drummer) before I had him sign all my official releases. Next I got to meet Derek. Another swell guy with these incredible gripping eyes! He asked us what our names were and everything, I told him I thought he was doing a great job and I was glad they chose him to be in the band, etc before he signed my stuff. I spoke to John Petrucci for only a moment (mostly about how much I had enjoyed the show) and neither of us had a pen so he couldn't sign anything for me. :( I didn't get to speak to James though he did walk right by me on his way out. Finally, I got to see Portnoy and have him sign my WDADU insert. I didn't ask him to sign anything else because this was outside so there were a lot of people with shit to sign and stuff to say, so I didn't want to be a bother. Accordingly, I didn't really get to talk to him, but I DID ask if he had gotten Subconscious yet and he said he received it on Saturday at the Ytsecon. "I don't know where the hell he got all this stuff!" he said. :) Mike was really tired (he thinks this was the longest set they've ever played) so he took off after hanging out and signing stuff for about ten minutes ("You guys are crazy to have waited this long!"--it was about 4:40 when he came out). I gave a couple guys instructions about how to get on the 'jam :) and then we left. What a great experience! I can't wait to see them again. :) :) :) --ROb ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 10 Jun 1995 13:29:40 -0700 (PDT) From: Ben Kobashigawa To: email_address_removed Message-ID: I just got Subconscious and Live in Tokyo at the same time yesterday. . . They rule the world!!! Subconscious: It's all good. The track for Winter was a little scratchy, but everything else was quite clean. What is this Mystery track about? What is it for? And where did Mike get all the tracks from? Live in Tokyo: Oh my god!! This video rules the world!!! It totally does. I had been looking for it for about 4 months, and couldn't find it. Then blockbuster called me up on Wednesday and told me that they had got it in. I think I had a heart attack! I had about four more when I saw the video. They should put a sign on all Dream Theater material: WARNING This product is so cool, it may cause repeated heart attacks and brain damage. Should be used in measured doses. Tim, When are we going to get the Instrumental CD's? Are you waiting to fill a certain quota? How did you get a hold of them anyways? I really want to hear Dream Theater do YYZ. I think that will kill me. Oh my god!!! When might we get another round of Ytsejam t-shirts, and other apparel? I missed out on them all, I'm too new here. Dope!! -Jun-Dai Bates "Are there spots in a leopard's eyes, also?" Yume no gekijoo -The Crow "The rain fell, like blankets of night." email_address_removed -The Jester ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 10 Jun 1995 16:43:40 -0400 From: email_address_removed To: email_address_removed Subject: Re: #1(2) YTSEJAM digest 847 Message-ID: In a message dated 95-06-10 10:46:57 EDT, you write: >What are you talking about, Mike? "apparently it didn't happen..." >-- >*I* was there and saw/heard it first hand. Mike Portnoy made it >pretty >clear when he pulled the tapes of ACOS/the RS gig out of his pocket, >that >these were FRESH out of the studio, and that noone outside of the >band >had heard these ... he joked that people please put away their tape >recorders, but I think he was seriously concerned about someone >bootlegging >the preview and distributing it. There are copywright issues at hand >here, >folks. I know ytsejammers hate to think of such trivial music >business >issues, but they're real. > >My suggestion -- that dude who bootlegged ACOS destroy the copy in >good >faith and DO NOT distribute it in trades! Hey, it's Jeff again. Buck, you shouldn't be concerned. There is no copy of ACOS. So, there's nothing to distribute. Even if I did have a copy, I'd destroy it anyway before anything happens. So, this issue is over. Okay? Yours, Jeff =) ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 10 Jun 1995 16:43:51 -0400 From: email_address_removed To: email_address_removed Subject: Re: #1(2) YTSEJAM digest 847 Message-ID: In a message dated 95-06-10 10:46:57 EDT, you write: >I am currently in the process of creating a DT Song Book (a file > containing all their lyrics, similar to the Pearl Jam one if you >know > what that is). I currently have all 3 studio albums and the >Majesty > demo done (I am working on the stuff from Subconsious right >now). I'll > let everyone know when I get the first revision done, so you can >get a > copy. What I need is the detailed breakdown of the samples on >Awake (I > think someone posted those here a couple of months ago), if you >could > email me those privately I would appreciate it. Thanks in >advance... All of the recitations in Awake are in the Awake guitar tablature book. Yours, Jeff =) ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 10 Jun 1995 13:56:08 -0700 (PDT) From: Ben Kobashigawa To: email_address_removed Message-ID: How many 'jammers here live on the West coast? Also: (i) I think that instead of just a tablature book, or drum book or bass book, we should go for the whole fucking score of Dream Theater, especially Images and Words. I really want to see the keyboard part for wait for sleep. I tried to learn it, but every time, it seems like he's adding another harmony line. When Derek can write something up to the level of "Wait for Sleep", then I will not in the least question his worthiness to be in Dream Theater. (ii) I think Unplugged would be nice to see, but I really want both options. I think WDAJU can wait a few extra months. (iii) If anyone gets the info for the fanzine Images and Words, or the fanclub, just post it. Then no one will be wondering. It should totally be written in the the FAQ. -Jun-Dai Bates P.S. it's "Jagermeister" with an umlaut over the "a" (pronounced, /Yoggermeister/, I think. I have a small bottle of it here. Good stuff, kinda like vodka. Doornkaat is also good. -Jun-Dai Bates "Are there spots in a leopard's eyes, also?" Yume no gekijoo -The Crow "The rain fell, like blankets of night." email_address_removed -The Jester ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 10 Jun 1995 17:44:46 -0400 (EDT) From: Anthony To: DT:;@donews.uucp Subject: Dt unplugged! Message-ID: DT Unplugged!! is the only way to go man!! that would be totally awesome... and i dont think it is a sellout either, guys... first, the silent man is an acoustic song i think the guys did it that way because they play in wide variety of styles...they think Orchestrally...most bands have only ONE sound and that's it ... forget being musical about guitar tones, keyboard patches, different vocal styles, and creative drumming....but DT does all of this because they are conscious of the fact that there instruments are very versatile... second... there is a long tradition of acoustic songs and arrangements in progressive music...long before eMpTyV did the unplugged thing... look back at all of the bands DT claims as influences from the prog era of the 70s... Rush, Yes, kansas, etc... these guys did a good bit of acoustic stuff... why shouldnt the guys in DT do acoustic?? being yourself and doing things your OWN way does NOT mean avoiding anthing that is popular like the plague... it means DOING IT YOUR OWN WAY.... .02 anthony kozar email_address_removed http://www.utoledo.edu/~akozar/ ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 10 Jun 1995 21:32:48 -0300 From: Stanton R Guy To: email_address_removed Subject: Awake tab (The Mirror) Message-ID: The music stores around here still don't have the Awake book out yet (didn't someone say it was discontinued?), and there's just one thing that I want to know. How does that clean part in the Mirror go? Is there anyone out there that got the book that would mind writing it up? Just the clean bit. Thanks a lot CCC ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 10 Jun 1995 21:02:36 -0400 From: James Peele To: email_address_removed Cc: Paul Lapinski Subject: (INFERNO review) Screaming in Digital, v194 (fwd) Message-ID: Here is a review of INFERNO's new demo tape 'Architect'. The review was written by Shag (moderator of the on-line Queensryche internet digest). If you are interested in purchasing this demo, simply mail a check or money order (made payable to Jay Peele) for $6 to the address given below (FL). If you would like to receive updates on INFERNO, I can add you to our group e-mail list. E-mail: email_address_removed Thanks (I hope to hear from you), Jay Peele INFERNO SCREAMING IN DIGITAL The On-Line Queensryche Digest : Volume 194 - 05Jun95 INFERNO review Dan (email_address_removed) On Architect, their five-track 1995 demo, Florida progmetal act Inferno succeed by not trying to be Queensryche. Not to say that the influence isn't there - it's quite obvious at times. But the band also displays strong influences from the likes of Fates Warning, Dream Theater and even Rush. A good part of the distinction stems from the band's lineup. Vocalist/guitarist Jay Peele and guitarist Kier Whitacre both also play synthesizers, and bassist Paul Lapinski and drummer Kenny Phillips exercise enough dynamic control that the overall effect feels more ethereal than most progmetal. Peele should also be commended for singing strongly within his dynamic range, and not stretching for any Queen of the Reich screams. The tape's cerebral lyrics and tight sound should land it squarely in the progressive section of most collections. The Second Hand and Drawing Lines, the first and last songs respectively, are fairly straightforward songs with rhymed lyrics and music reminiscent of Fates Warning's recent work. The second track, Staring Into Chaos, is the hardest piece, with cacaphonic samples reminiscent of Queensryche's mid-80's work. The fourth track, Panels - which segues into a short spoken-word piece, Panel 1 - is perhaps the best part of the demo, featuring a variety of rhythms and textures comparable to that flaunted by Dream Theater. For a self-produced demo, this 19-minute offering has an extremely professional sound, and one can only hope that the band has the time, determination and productivity to release a full-length recording in the near future. To contact Inferno: The Infernal Vision c/o Jay Peele 6556 Fern Street Green Cove Springs, FL 32043 (904) 284-0707 email_address_removed -------------------------------------------------------------------------- $5 covers the cost of 'Architect' (the digalog cassette) and $1 covers the postage. Thanks - J ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 10 Jun 1995 21:20:20 -0400 (EDT) From: Hairball To: email_address_removed Subject: Are we back to this AGAIN?! Message-ID: Ugh... Look, I'm gonna have to side with Doc Mosh on this I & W production thing - even though we've had our little indirect tiffs/disagreements in the past, I'm definitely in agreement with him. Prater is a very high gloss producer. His choice of snare samples are generally very cold and very thin. Not only that, but, the MIDI noise which Doc spoke of (and I'm assuming this is what you mean) refers to the sampled snares. Listen to the snare when Mike plays a really quick snare fill. It sounds like dick on rye. This is caused, in laymans terms, by the sampled drum unit saying, "WAIT! I can't get the next sample out, I'm not finished with the last one!" And you hear that small clipping of the snare...okay, HUGE clipping of the snare. (Was trying to be nice...) If he'd left the real kick & snare in, it might've helped warm the sound. I believe that's what Doc meant by sounding "sickly & thin." Sure, it's bassy, but...eh...I like the guitar tones for the most part, and I've posted WAAAAAAAAAY too much already about the bass on that CD... Kev's keyboards are fine most of the time. Anyway, to reiterate what I've said before, AWAKE is probably the BEST Production/Engineering job to date, out of everything they've released. Period. It sounds so damned full, it's disgusting. =) On a semi-related note, Dave Neff came out AGAIN to see my band last night! Whoa...Oddly enough, he got to witness me back up on stage with my old band (who we opened for), and two other former members. Was quite amusing. =) Thanks again, Dave! And, sadly, we have a show on June 17th, so, you won't be seeing me at the DT show. Could someone tell Mike, "Hairball said Yo."? It's THREE WORDS! Someone? Anyone? Alrighty then. -Hairball, engineered out... ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 11 Jun 1995 00:10:36 -0400 (EDT) From: Rachel Goldenberg To: email_address_removed Subject: Misc. fragmented things Message-ID: --Ytsecon was great. I thank everyone for everything semi-related to it, except some of the excessive smoking, but that's just my opinion....I really liked hearing ACOS; it ws my first chance to hear the song...since then I heard the version Mike Bahr put on Subconsious (thanks) and am not sure which I prefer. Too soon to tell. ANYWAY, I have 2 tickets for Tuesday's show at Lido Beach, and the friend I got the other ticket for can't go so I'm looking for someone to go with. If you are interested, email me, & we'll talk...thanks. Rachel email_address_removed ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 10 Jun 1995 18:57:49 -0700 (PDT) From: Nathan Benjamin Meezan To: email_address_removed Subject: Unplugged is a sell-out NOT! Message-ID: Fellow 'jammers, I've watched with great interest as people wrote to the list to voice their opinions on whether a James w/ old DT disk or a DT unplugged disk should be produced first. Well, I didn't really care, as i will likely not order either of them, so I wasn't going to mail my opinion on the matter. . . . UNTIL a couple of people wrote that DT playing an unplugged album was a sell-out because so many other people have done them. GET REAL! Dream Theater and the rest of progressive rock is about expanding musical horizons and exploring new ideas. The unplugged venue is one of the best ways to do that! Artists of all calibers have succesfully made beautiful music by adapting their old electrical stuff to an acoustic format. I mean, think about Clapton and "Layla". He gave that song an entirely different meaning in its unplugged version. Or Nirvana, who actually made some good music by taking their songs out of their normal, trashy sound and putting them into non-powered instruments. Or Page and Plant, who turned old Zeppelin tunes into completely different animals in their last album. If DT does acoustic versions of their songs, it doesn't mean that they'll be just like Nirvana and Page/Plant; they'll be like DT, but acoustical. I think they could find a lot of ways to bring new ideas and new meanings to their songs, and I'm very curious to hear the results (especially Wait for Sleep, which might be their most beautiful song yet). Oh, one last thing. I do hope that the new Kansas album is good. All I can say about that band is anyone who likes DT's I&W because of its intensity, complexity, and drive should do this, if they haven't done it yet: Grab a copy of the "Point of No Return" album, put it in your stereo and play "Spider" really loud. It will blow your mind. What a band! And the best thing is, you can see Kansas live for practically nothing. I saw them a couple of years ago with three other bands (albeit bad ones) for $7! They're not what they used to be, but they're still pros with a great show. Nathan Meezan ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 11 Jun 1995 00:19:58 PDT From: email_address_removed (Dr. Mosh) To: email_address_removed Subject: Re: Are we back to this AGAIN?! Message-ID: On the Eve of Destruction, Hairball said: > > Prater is a very high gloss producer. His choice of snare samples >are generally very cold and very thin. Not only that, but, the MIDI noise >which Doc spoke of (and I'm assuming this is what you mean) refers to the >sampled snares. Listen to the snare when Mike plays a really quick snare >fill. It sounds like dick on rye. > Not only that, but play the beginning of Another Day, just before the keyboards come in, you can hear the MIDI hum of the keyboards too! > Anyway, to reiterate what I've said before, AWAKE is probably the >BEST Production/Engineering job to date, out of everything they've >released. Period. It sounds so damned full, it's disgusting. =) > Awake is an amazing piece of production. The dynamic range on that CD is incredible. It also was mastered really well. > >-Hairball, engineered out... > -The Doc -- #$%*#$*@ REAL: email_address_removed + VIRTUAL: email_address_removed *@#$*@#$ *$%&%#$* The Dream Theater Archives: ftp.netcom.com: /pub/dr/drkhoe/dt &*@#$*@$ **%^$#$% WWW: "ftp://ftp.netcom.com/pub/dr/drkhoe/www/dthome.html" #$**@#*$ *$*$*$*# Reality Enhancement Software - Engineering Reality *$&#*#@$ ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 11 Jun 1995 14:30:08 +0100 (BST) From: "CC. Butterworth" To: email_address_removed Subject: UK Tour Dates? Message-ID: Greetings! Does anyone know of any imminent UK shows? A post a while ago said that DT may return to the UKin July, but I haven't heard any more.... Thanks alot. Cassian Butterworth: cb4197@bris.ac.uk ------------------------------ End of YTSEJAM Digest 848 *************************