YTSEJAM Digest 845 Today's Topics: 1) Subconcious---HELP!--- by email_address_removed (Trey Allen) 2) Dt by email_address_removed 3) ~ytsecon~subcon~mike's new prjcts by email_address_removed (John Jens, Jr.) 4) DT Germany Tour dates by email_address_removed.de (Ties Goebel) 5) Free DT CD's by email_address_removed.nl (Ruud van de Kruisweg) 6) Re: YTSEJAM digest 844 by email_address_removed 7) Re: Ytsecon stick in the mud by email_address_removed (Jeff Forte) 8) DT UNPLUGGED!! by nguyen john t 9) Selling this drama by Michael Bahr 10) Re: Timothy Adams and his flames by "Mr. Senior-itis" 11) Re: 844 -- that stick in the mud by "Mr. Senior-itis" 12) boots trading by Wilco Barg 13) More Sub CDs available! by Michael Bahr 14) Unplugged....Please.... by email_address_removed 15) SUBCONSCIOUS by email_address_removed.de (Steffen Barabasch) 16) DT Fanclub and I & W fanzine by email_address_removed 17) German dates by email_address_removed.de 18) DT Unplugged! (Ytsejam 844) by email_address_removed (Jamie Burks) 19) by Look! Some mail from Andy! Cool! 20) Re: #2(2) YTSEJAM digest 844 by email_address_removed 21) Unplugged! by John Mastin 22) Re: DT unplugged by email_address_removed 23) ACoS by email_address_removed (Michael Burstin) 24) New Kansas by email_address_removed (Scott Jensen) 25) FREE DT CD'S...CORRECTION by TIM LODGE -SGA/MACLAB POLITICAL SCIENCE '95 26) Old Promo Signs by email_address_removed 27) Drummers... by email_address_removed ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Wed, 7 Jun 1995 17:58:26 -0400 (EDT) From: email_address_removed (Trey Allen) To: email_address_removed Subject: Subconcious---HELP!--- Message-ID: Can anyone in or near the North Florida area please let me know if they would be willing to dub a copy of the DT Subconcious CD for me. I was unaware of this CD until they were all sold. Please help a fellow DT fan/freak. Trey Allen email_address_removed ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 7 Jun 1995 19:26:09 -0400 From: email_address_removed To: email_address_removed Subject: Dt Message-ID: Sounds like the convention was great!! I wish I did not live so far away (North Carolina) !!! Please, if someone finds out if they are heading near this area, please let me know. I really must see them live sometime. I aggre with the message about the 'child' who decided to record ACOS at the convention, hopefully DT will overlook something like this, it only takes one jerk to ruin things for everyone else! Fman ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 7 Jun 1995 23:20:14 -0400 From: email_address_removed (John Jens, Jr.) To: email_address_removed Subject: ~ytsecon~subcon~mike's new prjcts Message-ID: hey again 'Jammerz! a few werdz for u (too much time on irc ;) YTSECON: all you ppl that went: YOU SUCK! I HATE YOU! ahhh, i feel much better now :) and onto better things... SUBCONSCIOUS: crappy day at work; came home and there is was: an indiscript brown mailer sitting on my place-mat. i dint even have to glance at the mailing label to tell it was Subconscious #397. FUK YEAH, Mike! this is awesome! this is my first boot-type-thingy and it's pretty good quality. still on the very first listen. will give full account in later post. MIKE'S NEW VID PROJECT: sounds kool. too bad i'm too poor to own 2 let alone 1 hifi vcr - damn skool :7 MIKE'S NEW CD PROJECT (DT Unplugged): sounds tr3s kool. i agree w/ the dood (sorry, deleted yer post too fast) who sed do the unplugged first since it's complete then WDAJU. i want both tho :) AFN, -john ps. tis a joke about hating the ytseconners. u know i luv u all :) [23 daze 'til Yanni] [26 daze 'til Queensryche] [50 daze 'til +Live+] john c. jens, jr. email_address_removed http://www.site.gmu.edu/~jjens/ 'anger is a constructive emotion, hate is not' -MJK ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 8 Jun 95 11:41 MET DST From: email_address_removed.de (Ties Goebel) To: email_address_removed Subject: DT Germany Tour dates Message-ID: New information about DT in Germany: DT will play four headliner shows in Germany (Saarbruecken, Kassel, Lichtenfels, Donaueschingen) and will also play on three or four Rock Over Germany festivals as well as on a festival in Switzerland. I don`t have the exact dates with me right now, but I`ll probably post them tomorrow. Ties ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 08 Jun 1995 02:46:00 +0100 From: email_address_removed.nl (Ruud van de Kruisweg) To: email_address_removed Subject: Free DT CD's Message-ID: >From: TIM LODGE -SGA/MACLAB POLITICAL SCIENCE '95 >To: email_address_removed >Subject: FREE DREAM THEATER CD'S >Message-ID: > >Anyone interested in FREE Dream >Theater CD's, please email me. >I'm speaking in direct reference >to the Instrumental, Instrumental II, >Rising Power, and Majesty Demos,a >and perhaps some others.... > >Email for the details. no this is not >a scam..Just some "sales" positions. > >:) Yes, I'm interested. What's the deal? Ruud ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 7 Jun 1995 21:23:36 -0500 From: email_address_removed To: email_address_removed Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 844 Message-ID: This is to you Mike! DREAM THEATER UNPLUGGED!!!!! (b4 WDAJU) ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 7 Jun 1995 22:09:13 -0400 From: email_address_removed (Jeff Forte) To: email_address_removed Subject: Re: Ytsecon stick in the mud Message-ID: >I thought it was really wonderful that DT respected us enough as >*fans* and *adults* to give us a chance to hear the new studio version >of A Change of Seasons. This was someting quite special; when you >share a new piece of music with someone, you are sharing part of your >SELF with them. They didn't have to do it; they wanted to out of the >goodness of their hearts. >Then someone decided to destroy this special moment by using a >hand-held tape recorder to steal this moment for themselves. >Let me ask you something. Did you even THINK to ask any of the DT >guys if this would be ok with them? Why not? You obviously KNEW what >you were doing was incredibly sleazy and wrong because you were hiding >your tape recorder like the little thief you are. Why did you feel >the need to do this? Are you so pathetic that you need to do >something like this to make you feel better or more privileged than >others who will of course come begging you for copies? This is NOT >the same as taping a show to trade, and you damn well know it. >It's things like this that make me feel ashamed to be a music fan. >That there are those who forget what it means to be a human being, and >let nothing get in their way of doing whatever it takes to make them >feel like they are "cooler" than other fans. How dare you consider >yourself a true fan; using them to boost your own self-esteem. I hope >someday you'll grow up and realize what a shitty thing you did. I agree that with the overall idea that it was a shitty thing to do, I think you are "reading" a little too deep into this. Saying that they did this to boost their self-esteems. MAybe the person just wants to have a copy of the song because they are a big fan (this doesnt change the fact that it wasnt right). This is not a flame...just a difference of opinion. While it is not the same as bootlegging a show to trade...what about the people who bootleg perfomances to sell them and make money off of them. Thats about the same thing, using the band to boost financial value instead of boosting "self-esteem. Im not saying i disagree with this, because i like many other people on the list own bootlegged shows and discs of that nature. Many people say that it takes money out of the pocket of the artist, this is not true because with the price of bootlegs, anyone who buys them is usually a big fan of the band and will buy their new records anyway. ________________________________________________________________________________ Jeff Forte email_address_removed "I wanted to find An Innocent Mind, but only found myself waiting" --Kevin Moore ________________________________________________________________________________ ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 7 Jun 1995 22:06:43 -0500 (CDT) From: nguyen john t To: email_address_removed Subject: DT UNPLUGGED!! Message-ID: Hello to all jammers! This goes to MIKE BAHR. Hey Mike, it's John from Wichita, Kansas. My vote for the recent DT UNPLUGGED vs WD&JU goes to UNPLUGGED> I don't know, the way I see it, we have all heard the songs off of WD&DU. It's great that we'll be able to hear James do them (I've never been a Charlie fan, sorry). But I think a higher interest lies in hearing *totally* different versions of some DT songs (ie- UNPLUGGED versions!). Besides, have you gotten a hold of enough material to tackle WD&JU yet? So here's my vote: UNPLUGGED! GO for it Mike! You know we're ALL behind ya!! PS - those vidoes sound like they're to die for too! Go for it! somebody pull me together... - FnM JOHN ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 7 Jun 1995 20:32:08 -0700 (MST) From: Michael Bahr To: email_address_removed Subject: Selling this drama Message-ID: Hi all! Well, time to sell a few more of my rock collectibles, since I've listened to them quite enough, and I need some more money to put into the production of the Cygnus and DT Unplugged discs. All of the following are in excellent condition and guaranteed to be skip-free, or I'll refund 'em. (In other words, they won't skip.) RUSH CD BOOTLEGS, your pick, $20 plus shipping ($1 USA, $2 Canada, $4 other) "Fly In The Night" Montreal, PQ 12/1/77, audience recording, stereo Tracklisting: Xanadu A Farewell to Kings Closer to the Heart Something For Nothing Cygnus X-1 1. The Voyage Working Man Fly By Night In The Mood Drum Solo Cinderella Man "A Right to Passage" Denn Hagg Stadium, Geleen, Holland "Pinkpop Festival" 6/4/79, original master radio tape (CRYSTAL clear, stereo, A+) Tracklisting: A Passage to Bangkok Xanadu The Trees Hemispheres 1. The Sphere Closer to the Heart La Villa Strangiato 2112 1. Presentation 2. Soliloquy 3. Grand Finale In The Mood Drum Solo Something for Nothing "Spirit of St. Louis" Kail Auditorium, St. Louis, MO, 2/14/80, FM master (A) Tracklisting: 2112 1. Overture 2. Temples 3. Discovery 4. Presentation 5. Soliloquy 6. Grand Finale Spirit of Radio Natural Science 1. Tidepools 2. Hyperspace 3. Permanent Waves Beneath, Between & Behind Medley 1. By-Tor & the Snow Dog 2. Xanadu (all) Medley 1. Working Man 2. Finding My Way 3. Anthem 4. Bastille Day 5. In The Mood 6. Drum Solo La Villa Strangiato Doubtless you all know my address by heart by now, but I will sell these to the first to e-mail a response to any of 'em. You can buy only one, two of the three, or all of them if you like. Just let me know and I'll echo the address back to you. -Mike Bahr, email_address_removed ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 8 Jun 1995 01:23:05 -0400 (EDT) From: "Mr. Senior-itis" To: email_address_removed Subject: Re: Timothy Adams and his flames Message-ID: Yes, I do give a big hand to Babs for all of the organization of the convention. . .Nevertheless, Jeff was the one who gave the convention a LOT of flare, getting Management to listen to Babs and also getting 3/5ths of the band. We wouldn't have those nifty posters, our first listen to ACoS, etc. It seemed to me that Jeff received no recognition (except for "Jeff Chew and his Rolodex" in small print) from ANYONE else, and I believe that Jeff should've gotten more recognition, possibly as much recognition as Babs. Flame not intended, just speaking my mind. Greg :) BTW, Mike Portnoy and the others didn't even know Babs until the convention. @@@><><>===<><><>===<><>===<>==<@@>==<>===<><>===<><><>===<><><@@@   Gregory Chew -- "Catching every drop of hope in my empty cup..." email_address_removed :):):):):):):) -- Lea Salonga  @@@><><>===<><><>===<><>===<>==<@@>==<>===<><>===<><><>===<><><@@@  ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 8 Jun 1995 01:38:47 -0400 (EDT) From: "Mr. Senior-itis" To: email_address_removed Subject: Re: 844 -- that stick in the mud Message-ID: About that person recording ACoS. . .I would have to agree with you on that one. I personally feel that the convention was at a family level, and that Mike Portnoy and the others trusted that we would not tape the song while it's being played. I know the person who did it, and I feel that he was way out of line. I'd suggest to him that he'd destroy any material he has regarding the studio version of ACoS. I hope I haven't made any enemies on this list! Greg :) @@@><><>===<><><>===<><>===<>==<@@>==<>===<><>===<><><>===<><><@@@   Gregory Chew -- "Catching every drop of hope in my empty cup..." email_address_removed :):):):):):):) -- Lea Salonga  @@@><><>===<><><>===<><>===<>==<@@>==<>===<><>===<><><>===<><><@@@  ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 08 Jun 1995 07:45:00 +0200 From: Wilco Barg To: email_address_removed Subject: boots trading Message-ID: Hi there, During the last few months, since I became a member of the Digest, I #ve read alot about boots of DT and QR. Being a great fan of both I wonder if there is someone willing to trade boots with me. I just have one DT boot on tape (Dance On Eternity) and I am dying for more DT and QR input. Have alot of boots to trade about f.e. Marillion, Genesis, IQ, Rush, Yes and many others. Please email me on the address mentioned below and I will send you a list. Greetings, Wilco email_address_removed.NL ************************************************************************************** I know it#s easier to walk away than look it in the eye Surrounded How long can you stand tightening up? avoiding the fight avoiding the truth tighten the smile will you get what you want ? ... to be cursed with your dreams King by Marillion ************************************************************************************* ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 7 Jun 1995 23:03:32 -0700 (MST) From: Michael Bahr To: email_address_removed Subject: More Sub CDs available! Message-ID: I've got 20 more Subconscious CDs to sell, courtesy of a cancellation. Get 'em while they last! :) You know the price & place. Mike Bahr, email_address_removed ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 8 Jun 1995 01:28:00 -0500 From: email_address_removed To: email_address_removed Subject: Unplugged....Please.... Message-ID: I'll be the second one to vote for DT Unplugged before WDAJU. While I'd love both, I'd like unplugged better. Also am I the only DT fan in the Midwest?!? Doesn't seem to be many out there! Later. Dave "One you've touched you stand alone to face the bitter fight. Once I reached for Love now I reach for Life." Learning to Live/Dream Theater "Sacrifice they said, is a sign of nobility, But where does one draw the line in the face of injury?" Someone Else?/Queensryche ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 8 Jun 1995 10:05:40 +0200 (MESZ) From: email_address_removed.de (Steffen Barabasch) To: email_address_removed (Ytsejam List) Subject: SUBCONSCIOUS Message-ID: Hi! It's nearly a week since I received my copy of Subconscious and since then I didn't manage to get ACOS out of my mind. Great song on a great CD, thanks, Mike. Now tell us what the hell this mystery track really is! Sounds like a cheap synth playing a poor THX-style-jingle. A game-over-jingle perhaps? Steffen ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 8 Jun 1995 00:02:57 -0400 From: email_address_removed To: email_address_removed Subject: DT Fanclub and I & W fanzine Message-ID: Anyone who knows the addreses to subscribe to the I & W fanzine and/or knows who to write to about the Fanclub that has the never-hear-from-them-again-after-they-cash-your-check-syndrome please e-mail me. I asked for this a month or so ago, got it, and promptly put it off until I lost the information. BTW...about Mike and Derek moving to Arizona....I don' think so. They need to see green forests, snow-capped mountains, and a beautiful coastline. So it will have to be here in Portland, Oregon. I just have to figure a way to make them believe that it gets really hot here more than 12 days a year....hot = > 65 degrees. really hot = > 90 degrees. Mike Bahr....I wish I had the bucks to go and buy another stereo Hi-Fi VCR.......those videos sound great. Later ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 8 Jun 1995 12:24:44 +0200 (MESZ) From: email_address_removed.de To: email_address_removed (ytsejam) Subject: German dates Message-ID: Hello german ytsejammers, is seems that DT are going to do four headlining-shows druing their festival- tour in germany. The dates are (i got them from a friend of mine who got them from Roundtable-Management, so they are mainly confirmed): 19.06. Kassel 20.06. Lichtenfels 27.06. Donau-Eschingen 28.06. Saarbruecken Perhaps I'm going to Saarbruecken and to Kassel. Hope to see you guys..... -- -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- ---- Freedom belongs only to those without video screens for eyes and mouth ---- ---------------------- Queensryche - Screaming In Digital ---------------------- -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- - Sometimes words can't say wahat the heart feels. But music can express what - ---------------------------- our language cannot. ------------------------------ -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Till 'Tillroy' Wagner Elisabethenstr. 42f; D-63225 Langen; Germany ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 8 Jun 1995 06:43:21 -0400 From: email_address_removed (Jamie Burks) To: email_address_removed Subject: DT Unplugged! (Ytsejam 844) Message-ID: > Finally, we were given an audiotape that can ONLY be expressed >int he form of a CD. I want a vote as to whether to do it this fall >BEFORE WDAJU, or wait till after. It's Dream Theater UNPLUGGED! And >it's >crystal clear. Plus it has some tracks from when they were on the Bruce >Dickinson show. The track list is: > > Caught in a Web > Lifting Shadows off a Dream > Lie > Perfect Strangers (BD on vocals) > Lifting Shadows off a Dream > Wait For Sleep (GUITAR used instead of Piano... INCREDIBLE!!) > The Silent Man > The Lie Acoustic Boogie (you guys have to hear this) > Tears (so beautifully perfect your head will explode) > > So what do you think all? DT unplugged as the next CD? And >the >tape trees for the videos shall begin in earnest in a little while, >possibly mid-august when the school people return. You gotta be kidding me!!!!! This would be unbelievable!!! I would just about kill to get a copy of this, and in CD form?!?!?!?!?!? Oh my god! Yes, please please, please, please do it!!!! ------------------------------------------------------------------ "...the voice of reason against the howling mob" "Nobodys Hero" - Rush Jamie Burks - email_address_removed ------------------------------------------------------------------ ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 8 Jun 1995 13:32:48 +0100 (BST) From: Look! Some mail from Andy! Cool! To: email_address_removed Message-ID: Hi, I've been subscribing to this list for a few weeks but this is the first time I've actually posted something! what i'd like to know is, if ACOS EP is out Sept/Oct this year, is that a worldwide release or just in the U.S.? I've been into DT for the past couple of years, ever since I heard the live version of 'Surrounded' (from LATM). It was featured on a free compilation CD with Metal CD magazine and I played it to death! Another issue of this mag had 'Take The Time' on the CD, and that inspired me to buy I&W. Since then I have bought everything they have released over here, as well as getting WDADU on import. There seems to be some discussion about what the best album is, but in my opinion it's gotta be 'Awake' - DT just keep getting better and better!!! As far as I know 'The Silent Man' has not yet been released in the UK - I keep checking the metal press to find out a release date. It was supposed to be out to coincide with the RS gig - we're still waiting!! Some of the RS gig was shown on a TV rock show over here called Noisy Mothers but it was shown around 3.30 in the morning so many people may have missed it! They played excerpts of about three songs - can't remember which offhand - Damage Inc. was one! - and it was cool! Sorry about the length - getting carried away a bit!!!! Can't wait for the new stuff - roll on sept.!!!!! Andy "How can you possibly forgive me, after all the hell I put you through..." The Mirror, Dream Theater ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 8 Jun 1995 09:37:30 -0400 From: email_address_removed To: email_address_removed Subject: Re: #2(2) YTSEJAM digest 844 Message-ID: In a message dated 95-06-07 18:24:01 EDT, you write: >HOWEVER, an event transpired that I just can't let sit. No names >will >be mentioned here, but you know who you are, and I have a feeling >many >of you know who it was as well. And if that's actually true, I think >that makes quite an interesting statement in and of itself. > >I thought it was really wonderful that DT respected us enough as >*fans* and *adults* to give us a chance to hear the new studio >version >of A Change of Seasons. This was someting quite special; when you >share a new piece of music with someone, you are sharing part of your >SELF with them. They didn't have to do it; they wanted to out of the >goodness of their hearts. > >Then someone decided to destroy this special moment by using a >hand-held tape recorder to steal this moment for themselves. > >Let me ask you something. Did you even THINK to ask any of the DT >guys if this would be ok with them? Why not? You obviously KNEW >what >you were doing was incredibly sleazy and wrong because you were >hiding >your tape recorder like the little thief you are. Why did you feel >the need to do this? Are you so pathetic that you need to do >something like this to make you feel better or more privileged than >others who will of course come begging you for copies? This is NOT >the same as taping a show to trade, and you damn well know it. > >It's things like this that make me feel ashamed to be a music fan. >That there are those who forget what it means to be a human being, >and >let nothing get in their way of doing whatever it takes to make them >feel like they are "cooler" than other fans. How dare you consider >yourself a true fan; using them to boost your own self-esteem. I >hope >someday you'll grow up and realize what a shitty thing you did. I know that you didn't mention my name, but I've decided to come out in the open. Yes, I was holding the tape recorder. Yes, I did ask Mike if I could record it. No, there was nothing recorded. I repeat, there is _no bootleg copy of A Change of Season_. I didn't have any plans to bootleg the song, but my friend gave me his recorder anyhow. Well, I didn't want to tell him that I didn't want to do it, so I took the recorder then "accidentally" shut it off as soon as he gave it to me. Why? Well, I asked Mike about it, and he said no. So, I repected that. So, I say again, there is _no bootleg copy of A Change of Season_. Also, I must add that I told my friend to stop his video camera while the song was playing. So, whoever posted this post about me, don't begin flaming people until you get the complete story. I feel really bad about what has happened. So, when I see Mike next week, I'll tell him what happened at the convention. I'd understand if all of you guys don't respect me anymore. I deserve it. Yours, Jeff P.S. I read another post about my friends thanking me. Well, I think that Babs deserves more credit than I do. I didn't do much. I just showed up at the convention and made a complete ass of myself. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 8 Jun 1995 07:38:48 -0400 From: John Mastin To: email_address_removed Subject: Unplugged! Message-ID: I say go for the unplugged CD next, Mike! Johnny DT tomorrow night in NJ. Only one more sleep! :D ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 8 Jun 1995 06:35:36 -0500 From: email_address_removed To: email_address_removed Subject: Re: DT unplugged Message-ID: Mike, you have my vote to go ahead with the new tapes instead of WDAJU - don't get me wrong...I still will get WDAJU (when you put it out), but these new items sound a lot more exciting!!! One quick question - how long is the total length gonna be??? Scott Hansen email_address_removed ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 8 Jun 1995 10:33:08 -0400 From: email_address_removed (Michael Burstin) To: Dream Theater , email_address_removed Subject: ACoS Message-ID: Well... I have a few commments on the discussion over ACoS... First off... about the use of f*ck in the song... Since most of us have not heard it... we can't really comment on it... There are some songs where it does seem appropriate... Think of the line from Spreading The Disease "25 bucks a f*ck"... it seems extremly appropriate in this instance... I don't believe that anything else would have fit into the nature of the song... Also... as far as someone taping ACoS at YtseCon... well... I personally see nothing wrong w/ it... Its not like the person isn't planning on buying the EP when it comes out... I mean... its something that is new that we all want to hear... Its the same as before Awake came out, I trade the Providence Silent Man demo, CiaW demo from Nightwatch, and Lie from the 'Net... and then traded the pre-release copy of Awake that we got... I don't see much difference myself... -- +----------------------------------------+----------------+---------+ | And I'll smile and learn to pretend | Dream Theater | Michael | | And I'll never be open again | Space Dye Vest | Burstin | | And I'll have no more dreams to defend |-----Awake------+---------+ | And I'll never be open again | Let's Go Pens | +----------------------------------------+--------------------------+ For info about Dream Theater, finger email_address_removed http://www.cs.brandeis.edu/~mikeb/home.html ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 8 Jun 1995 10:42:06 -0500 From: email_address_removed (Scott Jensen) To: email_address_removed Subject: New Kansas Message-ID: A couple of days ago Ed Payne wrote about the new Kansas Freaks of Nature disc and how good it is. I must second this as it an outstanding CD and a worthy addition to any DT fan's CD collection. As it was Kansas that originally turned me onto DT I highly recommend this bit of musical excellence to all of you. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 8 Jun 1995 12:43:07 -0400 (EDT) From: TIM LODGE -SGA/MACLAB POLITICAL SCIENCE '95 To: email_address_removed Subject: FREE DT CD'S...CORRECTION Message-ID: Ok..For all the irate customers of mine who think I am GIVING away the CD's that they have paid $$$ for.. THIS IS NOT TRUE. Not true at all. All I was trying to do was establish a sales program whereby if you can refer a certain amount of sales to me, then you get free stuff.. compensation for your work......and it would take WORK. So everyone..please calm down. :) Tim if you want more details..email me. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 8 Jun 1995 15:13:05 -0400 From: email_address_removed To: email_address_removed Subject: Old Promo Signs Message-ID: The following appeared in Ytsejam #842: > I was crusing down the street the other day when I came upon a red light. Sitting at this red light, I noticed a DT promotional sign on a telephone pole. I was amazed that it was still there. The sign was advertising a show that never happened almost two years ago!!! I thought wow, I should grab that sign, but then I thought, it would be better to leave the sign in place for all to see. Now I make a special point to let all of my buddies know that the sign is there< I'm assuming this was here in town (Sacramento) since you're back for the summer? That's something I've noticed around here: people love to post signs on telephone poles, but they never get taken down (to be honest, the two-year-old sign doesn't surprise me that much ). That is, unless one of my ex-boyfriends walks by...he had a wall in his room literally wallpapered with Cattle Club posters... So, where is this sign anyway?? Jen -- "Could we see clearer in a virtual reality?" - Magellan "I am the beat of your pulse/the computer word made flesh" - Queensryche email_address_removed email_address_removed ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 8 Jun 1995 15:12:56 -0400 From: email_address_removed To: email_address_removed Subject: Drummers... Message-ID: The following appeared in Ytsejam #837 (yes, it's old, but I was one of those unfortunate souls who was unsubscribed due to some bug, and I am just now get the issues I missed!): >In other news, are there any drummers on the list? And do you think that Portnoy is just fucking amazing!! I'm a bass player and I can't play one beat on drums but I've been paying a lot of attention to Portnoy lately and he is blowing my mind! I hope he influences a lot of drummers because he is incredible.< Well, Marc, I guess you may have missed the "don't play DT in the car/air drumming/air guitar" thread...I mentioned that my husband is a drummer. He idolizes Mike. :) Neil Peart (please don't let this start another Peart vs. Portnoy thread!!) was his favorite drummer prior to hearing Dream Theater, but Mike bumped Neil to second place... Jen -- "Could we see clearer in a virtual reality?" - Magellan "I am the beat of your pulse/the computer word made flesh" - Queensryche email_address_removed email_address_removed ------------------------------ End of YTSEJAM Digest 845 *************************