YTSEJAM Digest 817

Today's Topics:

  1) DOH!
 by zebrowski steven <email_address_removed>
  2) Dream Set a Reality?
 by Brian M Polka <email_address_removed>
  3) Re: Mike about The Silent Man video...
 by Michael Bahr <email_address_removed>
  4) And, now, a moment of brevity...
 by email_address_removed
  5) ATTN: Ken Bibb!
 by NuGgeTMaN <email_address_removed>
  6) Re: YTSEJAM digest 815
 by email_address_removed
  7) Unplugged
 by zebrowski steven <email_address_removed>
  8) Re: Fates Warning Rumors??? (fwd)
 by Michael Burstin <email_address_removed>
  9) Re:  YTSEJAM digest 807
 by email_address_removed (Ken Higginson)
 10) Re:  YTSEJAM digest 815
 by email_address_removed (Ken Higginson)
 11) Mostly SDV comments+other misc
 by email_address_removed
 12) Subconcious
 by Richard K Henley <email_address_removed>
 13) contact Mike Bahr
 by Wilco Barg <email_address_removed.nl>
 14) Dutch CD singles
 by Wilco Barg <email_address_removed.nl>
 15) Myung interview!
 by email_address_removed.de (Bernd Basmer)
 16) A Kick Into A Dream
 by Scott Sneen <email_address_removed>
 17) YTSE CONVENTION UPDATE
 by email_address_removed
 18) Hello...<hello...hello...>
 by zebrowski steven <email_address_removed>
 19) Wake up and Cacophony
 by Pat Daugherty <email_address_removed>
 20) T_SHIRT ORDER (2nd to last offer)
 by Jason Giles <email_address_removed>
 21) How to get Awake TAB / Mirror Intro
 by Brandon Vaughn <email_address_removed>
 22) Guitar on SDV / King's X dropped?
 by Brandon Vaughn <email_address_removed>
 23) TESTING
 by Eric Moegling <email_address_removed>

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Date: Mon, 8 May 1995 20:30:32 -0400 (EDT)
From: zebrowski steven <email_address_removed>
To: email_address_removed
Subject: DOH!
Message-ID: <message_id_removed>

Hello, again, everybody.  It's Steve.  Ignore my last post.  I just started
reading old jams, and saw that someone posted the Mirror time sigs as printed
in the Awake tab book.  Personally, I wouldn't have used 9/16 time, but who
am I to argue with John Petrucci?  I can't believe I actually jumped onto
that bandwagon.  <insert DJ segue...>  And speaking of bandwagons, I would
have to say that my DT "dream set" would be:

"Wake Up!" intro tape
Pull Me Under
Innocence Faded
Lifting Shadows Off A Dream
Under A Glass Moon
Scarred
A Change Of Seasons

Intermission

Eve<with samples>
Xanadu <yes, the Rush song!>
The Mirror
Lie
To Live Forever
Caught In A Web <NO drum solo, please!>
A Mind Beside Itself
	i) Erotomania
       ii) Voices
      iii) The Silent Man

Encore

Improvisised Jam
Metropolis

Sorry I don't have the lengths of the songs, but from memory it looks like 
about a 2 1/2 hour show <bring your oxygen!> And another thing, I don't want 
to see them in another dive.  I want either a nice mid-size venue, or a 
Theater.  Nothing against Hammerjacks, mind you, but somewhere you can be
comfortable and not have to stand for six hours in a general admission seat.
I'll also be mixing sound, so nothing overpowers anything else when there's
no solo going on.  Their studio sound is awesome, but their live sound leaves
much to be dsired.  Does Hairball want to help me? :) 

So, who wants to come to _this_ show?

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
<"...Thought disorder; ___  ___  ___  _ _  ___    ___ "Balls and chunk is   >
<Dream control.  Now  | __||_ _|| __|| V || __|  |_  | where it's at."      >
<they read my mind on |__ | | | | __| \ / | __|   / /  --Mike Portnoy, LiT  >
<the radio...But where|___| |_| |___|  V  |___|  |___|"I think SpontanUity!">
<was the Garden of Eden?"   email_address_removed        --John Petrucci, X103>
<--John Petrucci, Voices                                          Radio Show>
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Date: Mon, 8 May 1995 21:03:32 -0500 (CDT)
From: Brian M Polka <email_address_removed>
To: Ytsejam Newsletter <email_address_removed>
Subject: Dream Set a Reality?
Message-ID: <message_id_removed>

Hey everyone,

     This is regarding the "dream set" issue that has been going on 
recently on the list. Maybe there IS a way we could get to see these 
lists (well, part of them at least). I seem to recall hearing that 
Megadeth had fans vote on what song's they would play on the tour through 
their WWW page. It's possible that we could do the same, or get DT's 
management to agree to do it. I mean, hell we have enough support on the 
Internet to try and get what we want (the SoundFX mailbox is proof 
positive of that) so maybe someone could get in touch with the mangaement 
and see if them would agree. I know that people on here have some 
connections and I think it would be worth a shot to give it a try. Make 
some of these dreams true I guess you could say.

Just a thought, :-)
Brian

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***                                                                         ***
***                       This world is spinning around me                  ***
***  "Pull Me Under"        The whole world keeps spinning around me        ***
***     Dream Theater         All life is future to past                    ***
***                             Every breath leaves me one less to my last  ***
***                                                                         ***
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Date: Mon, 8 May 1995 19:43:45 -0700 (MST)
From: Michael Bahr <email_address_removed>
To: email_address_removed
Subject: Re: Mike about The Silent Man video...
Message-ID: <message_id_removed>

> Here's what Mike Portnoy wrote about the Silent Man video shoot in his
> tour diary (Feb. 5th, 1995, Munich, Germany):
> "...Drive out to the video shoot location. I'm sick as a dog with 
> a stomach virus, so I spend most of the day in my bunk. (So much for
> my co-directing credit on the video!) Run through a few takes behind
> stained glass, playing in a barnyard full of hay + walking through a muddy 
> field in the freezing cold. Fun, Fun, Fun! I only puked once on location,
> too!..."

	HA!!!! :)

Mike Bahr, email_address_removed



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Date: Tue, 9 May 1995 01:38:11 -0400
From: email_address_removed
To: email_address_removed
Subject: And, now, a moment of brevity...
Message-ID: <message_id_removed>

Hello everyone! :)

My hubby recently had a DT related dream that you may find amusing...

He said that we were some place in Southern California, looking for my
"natural parents" (in reality, I am *not* adopted, although I sometimes
wished for it when I was much younger <g>).  Well, he gets to their house...
 He sees some kid riding his bike down the sidewalk, so he asks the kid if he
knows my parents.  The guy is too distracted by my husband's Dream Theater
shirt to reply...  

"Hey, cool band!" the kid says.

"Really?  You're familiar with 'em?" [My husband's standard bemused reply
whenever he meets someone who comments on DT.]

"Yes - this is the Dream Theater neighborhood.  Look around!"

So, my husband starts to look around him, and the very first thing he sees is
a garbage can with the stylized "M" logo!

Unfortunately, he woke up before he had a chance to investigate the rest of
the neighborhood. <g>

I used this as a chance to rib him - that Dream Theater must be in my blood.
:)

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Like everyone else, I have to say YAY!  I'M GOING TO SEE QUEENSRYCHE IN ABOUT
FIVE DAYS! (Sorry, I had to get that out of my system. :) )

Jen
--
"Could we see clearer in a virtual reality?" - Magellan
"I am the beat of your pulse/the computer word made flesh" - Queensryche

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Date: Tue, 9 May 1995 02:19:16 -0400 (EDT)
From: NuGgeTMaN <email_address_removed>
To: email_address_removed
Subject: ATTN: Ken Bibb!
Message-ID: <message_id_removed>

I Think I kinda got unsubscribed from the list somehow...but I'm not too 
sure...Could you PLEASE send me some kinda reply if this getZ to the 
YTSE??? ThanX!!! 

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According to the circle of fifths, and the order of sharps and flats:
If the alphabet continued as notes progressed (Using Major Key Sigs) (i.e.
A, B, C, D, E, F, G, H, I, etc.) eventually the key of Z Major would have
4 sharps.
StatisticZ show that if a person is born with Perfect Pitch, chances are
they will grow up to be a famous...Baseball Player!!! :)

				email_address_removed

		Eric Moegling:  email_address_removed

				email_address_removed

fOr MoRE nFo AboUT mE fIngEr: email_address_removed
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Date: Tue, 09 May 1995 09:04:53 -0500 (CDT)
From: email_address_removed
To: email_address_removed
Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 815
Message-ID: <message_id_removed>

How do you unsubscribe?


email_address_removed




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Date: Tue, 9 May 1995 10:54:13 -0400 (EDT)
From: zebrowski steven <email_address_removed>
To: email_address_removed
Subject: Unplugged
Message-ID: <message_id_removed>

No, DT's not going to be on "Unplugged" anytime soon, but if they were, what
songs do you think they should do.  I guess they have an hour.  Here are the
songs I think would translate well to the Unplugged context:

Wait For Sleep
Learning To Live
Surrounded
Lifting Shadows Off A Dream
Space-Dye Vest
Pull Me Under
A Mind Beside Itself
       i) Erotomania <this would have to be modified, obviously>
      ii) Voices
     iii) The Silent Man <of course!>

Again, I don't have the times, but I think that's about an hour.

Before you all go nuts because of all the keys-heavy songs, picture Derek up
there with a baby grand, a detuned upright<for a bit of a jangly sound>, and
a Hammond organ, which I think would be an acceptable Unplugged instument.
I think Voices would be really great acoustic, since it relies heavily on
the chords for texture rather than special f/x.  Pull Me Under acoustic
would probably _still_ bring the house down, and if you don't like the song
it just might change your opinion a bit.  Imagine Lifting Shadows with the
main bass harmonic intro played on a soft piano, and JM doing that string
synth pad on the violin, which of course is the instrument he started out on.
They could just tell James, "Hey man: settle down.  No screaming, OK?"  You
could do the instrumentation like this:

James: Vocals, that little shaker-thing
John M: Bass, acoustic guitar, violin
John P: Guitars <6 and 12 string>, mandolin
Mike: a little, tiny drum set, lots of percussion
Derek: Piano, Organ

They could also do a rippin' acoustic version of Wanted: Dead or Alive.  Mike
Portnoy on background vocals.  Watch out Bon Jovi. :)

What do ya think?

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
<"...Thought disorder; ___  ___  ___  _ _  ___    ___ "Balls and chunk is   >
<Dream control.  Now  | __||_ _|| __|| V || __|  |_  | where it's at."      >
<they read my mind on |__ | | | | __| \ / | __|   / /  --Mike Portnoy, LiT  >
<the radio...But where|___| |_| |___|  V  |___|  |___|"I think SpontanUity!">
<was the Garden of Eden?"   email_address_removed        --John Petrucci, X103>
<--John Petrucci, Voices                                          Radio Show>
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Date: Tue, 9 May 1995 12:16:40 -0400 (EDT)
From: Michael Burstin <email_address_removed>
To: email_address_removed (Ytsejam SERVER)
Subject: Re: Fates Warning Rumors??? (fwd)
Message-ID: <message_id_removed>

I just asked Maria over at Metal Blade about the FW rumor that Ray is
leaving...  here's her answer.

> 
> They are going into the studio ASAP but Ray will be there too. I'm not sure
> where all these rumors start but there sure all a lot of 'em. Also, Chasing
> Time will be in stores July 11th. Enjoy.
> 


-- 
+----------------------------------------+----------------+---------+
| And I'll smile and learn to pretend    | Dream Theater  | Michael |
| And I'll never be open again           | Space Dye Vest | Burstin |
| And I'll have no more dreams to defend |-----Awake------+---------+
| And I'll never be open again           |      Let's Go Pens       |
+----------------------------------------+--------------------------+
     For info about Dream Theater, finger email_address_removed
	       http://cs.brandeis.edu/~mikeb/home.html


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Date: Tue, 9 May 95 12:27:49 MDT
From: email_address_removed (Ken Higginson)
To: email_address_removed
Subject: Re:  YTSEJAM digest 807
Message-ID: <message_id_removed>

Well, I have not seen the Japanese Video, but I just got a bootleg called
"Wake Up" which is a 2-CD boot of that show.

The CD is okay... I love the instrumental jams, especially the one after
Lifting Shadows... (I think.. all the bass harmonics... I wish I could
see John Myung play that....grrr!)

Anyway, since someone was saying something about James' voice...  I
was really impressed with Silent Man...  Sounds just like the CD.  I
think he has to push his voice to get past all teh guitar, bass, keys,
drums... But when the rest of the band was quiet, he didn't have to
try so hard...  It's the same during the beginning of "To Live Forever"
anything quiet...



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Date: Tue, 9 May 95 12:40:15 MDT
From: email_address_removed (Ken Higginson)
To: email_address_removed
Subject: Re:  YTSEJAM digest 815
Message-ID: <message_id_removed>

With all the talk about Ibanez Universe 7-string guitar, I thought I'd pass
this on:

If you want one, you're screwed.  Ibanez dropped them this year.  If you
can find one, grab it.  Pay up to about $1000.00, but no more.

I got mine for $600.00.  It's white.  I could've had the black one, but
it was $1000.00.



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Date: Tue, 9 May 1995 17:28:17 -0400
From: email_address_removed
To: email_address_removed
Subject: Mostly SDV comments+other misc
Message-ID: <message_id_removed>

Hi everyone,

Before anyone asks, NO, this post won't be as long as my last one and there's
plenty of DT-related content! :D

To Steve Borzilleri <email_address_removed>, aka "Bafu Vai," who
loudly proclaimed:

>>>Yes the issue is dropped.<<<

I think I just heard all of YJ heave a huge sigh of relief. ;) 

>>>Oh well. Better to be all-done than well-done. ;> thanx airdance!<<<

You're welcome, anytime. ;>  

And to those people who didn't seem to enjoy my last lengthy discourse,
TOUGH!  I put spoilers in the heading explaining what the topic was and that
it was a long message, I included another warning in the beginning of the
text telling you that it was a long note which you might want to skip if it
didn't interest you, and then I even basically apologized at the end for
having to post the message in the first place.  Next time, if you don't want
to deal with a somewhat off-topic, yet necessary post, DON'T READ IT.  You'll
probably be a lot happier and then YOU won't end up taking up excess
bandwidth complaining about it. :)


More wisdom from your favorite and mine, Bafu Vai :) :

>>>Space-Dye Vest, spoken samples:

[snip]

Could a few jammers please listen to the song while reading the above transcri
ption to verify the parts, make corrections, or add spicy
comments full of panache? Thanks.<<<

You're welcome. :)  I asked Kev about these sound bites once, so I thought it
was about time I got around to commenting on them since I know where they're
from. :) 

Here are my own transcriptions of what the sound bites say, plus info on
where they came from:

1st quote:

"...he's the sort who can't know anyone intimately, least of all a woman.  He
doesn't know what a woman is.  He wants you for a possession, something to
look at like a painting or an ivory box.  Something to own and to display.
 He doesn't want you to be real, or to think or to live.  He doesn't love
you...but I love you.  I want you to have your own thoughts and ideas and
feelings, even when I hold you in my arms...it's our last chance...it's our
last chance..."

I think it's pretty common knowledge now to everyone here that that one is
from _A Room With A View_. 

2nd quote:

"...I was gonna move out...ummm...get, get a job, get my own place, ummm,
but...I go into the mall where I want to work and they tell me, I'm, I was
too young...."

This quote and the fifth quote are both from a documentary on dysfunctional
families which was shown on PBS last year (I _think_ it was '94).  Those
aren't actors, unfortunately, they're real families going through some very
real turmoil. :/

3rd quote:

"...Some people gave advice before about facing the facts, about facing realit
y.  And this is, this without a doubt, is his biggest challenge ever.  He's
going to have to face it.  You're gonna have to try, he's gonna have to try
and, uh, and, and, and get some help here.  I mean, now no one can say they
know how he feels..."

This is definitely, absolutely, without-a-doubt commentary from the OJ
Simpson freeway chase last year.  I don't know the name of the person
speaking here (a sports commentator from one of the networks, I think someone
said once?), but Kevin told me it was from the OJ thing, so there you go.

4th quote:

"...That's what they say that, like that in Houston, or something.  They say,
'yeah, it's 180 degrees, but it's a dry heat.'

In Houston they say that?

Oh, maybe not, I'm all mixed up.

Dry until they hit the swimming pool..."

>>>[Bafu Vai]  * - this voice sounds an awful lot like Conan O' Brian.<<<

This is definitely Conan O'Brien. :)  Don't know who the guest was who made
the alternating comments in-between, but that's where it's from.

This 5th quote is a bit harder to hear, but this is what I could gleen:

"...(unintelligible)...I get up with the sun...she doesn't, she doesn't want
you to sleep in?...I don't care what you do, I don't care what you say, you're
 grounded...that door gets locked, that door gets locked at night by 9
o'clock.  If you're not in this house by 9 o'clock, then you'd better find
someplace to sleep...you think you can go to your mom's house and sucker her
into it?...(unintelligible)..."

As I said, that one and the 2nd one are both from a documentary on dysfunction
al families.

Hope that helped!  Anybody want to tackle some of the audio clips from Kev's
demos?  I can help with those too, but I didn't want to just give them away.
:)

And finally, Jeff Chew <email_address_removed> asked:

>>>Air Dance: Man, how long did it take you to type out the interview w/ Mike
P.?<<<

I don't know; I did it in bits & pieces, whenever I had the chance to sit
down & type. :)  Glad so many people enjoyed it, and whew, aren't we ALL glad
Mike helped clear up that Mirror debate thing?haha

See, I told you it wouldn't be as long. :)

Take care everyone,

Jennifer
<email_address_removed>

Q:  "If you could play for anyone in the history of the universe, made-up or
real, what would you play, for whom, and what shoes would you wear?"

A:  "Lucifer.  Penny Lane.  Flipflops."

-Tori Amos, Q&A at UCLA  2-27-95


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Date: Tue, 9 May 1995 16:39:37 (CDT)
From: Richard K Henley <email_address_removed>
To: email_address_removed
Subject: Subconcious
Message-ID: <message_id_removed>

So who is going to tab out the guitar solos on ACOS for me?

					Mike Bahr for president,
					Soup



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Date: Tue, 09 May 1995 11:19:33 +0200
From: Wilco Barg <email_address_removed.nl>
To: email_address_removed
Cc: email_address_removed
Subject: contact Mike Bahr
Message-ID: <message_id_removed.nl>

Sorry that I try it this way. But over the last couple of days I've tried to
contact Mike Bahr. Somehow it seems his mail is not deliverable. I am not
sure if something is wrong but I wanted to mention this.

Mike I wanted to know if Subconscious is still available and also I like to
give you a tip for sending CD's overseas. If so, you ought to send it as "a
present". Otherwise people could have to pay import taxes.

Greetings,
Wilco Barg
email_address_removed.NL

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I know it's easy to walk away and leave it all behind            (Surrounded)
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Date: Tue, 09 May 1995 13:31:16 +0200
From: Wilco Barg <email_address_removed.nl>
To: email_address_removed
Subject: Dutch CD singles
Message-ID: <message_id_removed.nl>

Dear jammers,

I've read a lot about CD singles releases in the past digests. One of the
things that amazed me was the fact that "The Silent Man" doesn't seem
to be released in the UK (and probably also not in the US).

Well this single was released in The Netherlands somewhere around
Februari (could be earlier, because production date is 1994) already and
has the following tracklist:

The Silent Man (album version) 3:48
Take The Time  (demo version) 7:58
Eve                                             5:11

The single release of "Lie" (came out around October 1994), also Dutch
version, containts the following tracks:

Lie                                        (edit) 5:00
Space-Dye Vest (album version) 7:29
To Live Forever                            4:54
Another Day                        (live) 4:43

If I am right "Eve" and "To Live Forever" should not official been released
in the US(according to the comments in Ytsejam). So could someone tell
me which songs were on the US release of "Lie". This because the DT
Homepage discography is accurate till "Awake".

Maybe people are willing to exchange copies of CD singles to complete
collections. I am dying to get more DT input, because I get jealous after
reading all those American DT overkills, specially about "Subconscious".

Greetings,
Wilco Barg
email_address_removed.NL

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I know it's easy to walk away and leave it all behind            (Surrounded)
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Date: Wed, 10 May 1995 14:09:03 +0200
From: email_address_removed.de (Bernd Basmer)
To: email_address_removed
Subject: Myung interview!
Message-ID: <message_id_removed.de>

Hi Jammers!!

In the german issue of the "Gitarre & Bass" - magazine there is an 
interview with JM! If there are any people interested in this interview
I would be prepared to type it down and email it to them. 
BUT NOT BEFORE NEXT WEEK !!!
So if someone is interested, please email me directly! Don't send your
requests to the jam. 
Address: email_address_removed.de

Just thought I should do something good... :)

Bye

Bernd.


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Date: Wed, 10 May 1995 09:22:29 +0100
From: Scott Sneen <email_address_removed>
To: email_address_removed
Subject: A Kick Into A Dream
Message-ID: <message_id_removed>


Good morning Jammers,

	For those of you who havn't gotten a hold of Dream Theaters 
bootleg from the "Waking up the World" tour 94-95, FIND IT!! It was 
recorded on October 28,94 in New York City. I saw the same concert on 
November 8 in Minneapolis. There are a lot of changes they throw 
in.Nothing that sounds crappy though.The sound quality isn't the best 
right away.Mike and john(s) really over-power K.J. at the beginning.
After K.J announces Derek Sheridian the sound levels even out pretty good.
	This bootleg entitled "A KICK INTO A DREAM" is two C.D.s. Yeh, 
the price is another $50. If you happened to see them at all during this 
past tour, your'e going to want to buy this. I guarantee you'll literally 
re-live the concert you saw! It's sweet!
	Well the instructors of my education beckon me. Later.
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		" Balls and Chunck Is Where It's At"----->Mike Portnoy 
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                           Scott Sneen
		         "The Monkeyman"
		           C.V.F.N. ORG.	 


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Date: Wed, 10 May 1995 10:33:58 -0500 (EST)
From: email_address_removed
To: email_address_removed
Subject: YTSE CONVENTION UPDATE
Message-ID: <message_id_removed>


Hello everyone, it's BABS.  I want to let all of you know that there has
been a delay in the decision making process on which members of Dream
Theater will be attending the convention, if any.  Dream Theater has not
been able to get into the recording studio as scheduled which is possibly
going to put the convention on the back burner.  I spoke with their
Management this morning and they are doing everything possible to make
their attendance possible.  Their top priority is to see that the 
recording of A Change of Seasons is completed.  I will keep everyone 
posted as more information becomes available.  I can assure you that both
entities (DT's Management & I) are working really hard on this.  Thank
you for your patience.  What you all could do for me is I need to double
check the exact count of people interested in attending the convention.
I will need you full name and a backup telephone # for you in case I need
to call anyone (as you know some of you are in different time zones and
the internet can only work so fast,  I can assure you that I will keep 
the time change in mind when calling as well).  Thank you for your
cooperation with this.
						-BABS


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Date: Wed, 10 May 1995 13:32:02 -0400 (EDT)
From: zebrowski steven <email_address_removed>
To: email_address_removed
Subject: Hello...<hello...hello...>
Message-ID: <message_id_removed>

"Is there anybody out there?" as PF would say.  I haven't gotten a YJ in 2 
days and I'm getting worried about everyone out there.  Well, not really, but 
I wish another one would come before I pop an artery or something.
Thanks for listening

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
<"...Thought disorder; ___  ___  ___  _ _  ___    ___ "Balls and chunk is   >
<Dream control.  Now  | __||_ _|| __|| V || __|  |_  | where it's at."      >
<they read my mind on |__ | | | | __| \ / | __|   / /  --Mike Portnoy, LiT  >
<the radio...But where|___| |_| |___|  V  |___|  |___|"I think SpontanUity!">
<was the Garden of Eden?"   email_address_removed        --John Petrucci, X103>
<--John Petrucci, Voices                                          Radio Show>
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Date: Wed, 10 May 1995 14:10:49 -0400 (EDT)
From: Pat Daugherty <email_address_removed>
To: Dream Theater <email_address_removed>
Subject: Wake up and Cacophony
Message-ID: <Pine.3.07.9505101449.C6528-9100000@bdmserver>

Does anybody have a track listing for a 2cd boot
Called Wake up! ???
from DT

also
what does Cacophony sound like? Is the singer any good?
How does it musically compare to Friedmans's 3 cds?
Also how does Jason Becker sound? How are his albums
if he has any out?



Pat Daugherty    email_address_removed 
"Every breath leaves me one less to my last" --Dream Theater
"That is not an option, Mr. Mulder" --X-Files  
****GO ORIOLES!!!!****   ------------   ****GO CAPS!!!!!****




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Date: Wed, 10 May 1995 11:54:25 -0700
From: Jason Giles <email_address_removed>
To: email_address_removed
Subject: T_SHIRT ORDER (2nd to last offer)
Message-ID: <message_id_removed>

Sorry to bother you all, but I want to make sure I get everyone who wants in
on this t-shirt order!

Note that you must have your order IN by the 15th, which does NOT mean
you have to have the money to me by the 15th.

Another plug for my T-Shirts!  Sorry to keep bugging all you readers! ;-)

Here goes:
The shirts are black 100% pre-shrunk cotton, with the Majesty logo on the
front breast.  Underneath it 'ytesejam the internet mailing digest' is written.
On the back there is a large DREAM THEATER logo, with 'let the light surround'
you written in greyish, glow in the dark ink.

The cost is $14 each, domestic shipping included.  Foreign shipping is an
additional $4 per item (except Australia, who add $6 per item).  There is no
increase for Canadian orders.

Sizes are S, M, L, XL, XXL (+$1.00), XXXL (+$1.50).  My deadline for orders
is May 15th.  Please send your money, as I plan on ordering by that date, and
having them by the end of May for shipment to all orderers.  Send money to
Jason Giles, 3200 Payne Ave. #525, San Jose, CA  95117.  Checks or cash, or
money orders are fine (the non-bouncing kind of check is the only kind
I'll accept. ;-))

Please e-mail me your order, with (1) size, (2) quantity, (3) YOUR SHIPPING
address, (4) your e-mail address and (5) how much your sending me.  I will
confirm your order via e-mail, at which time you should send out the money.

Orders or questions:  e-mail me at email_address_removed

WWW:  http://www.crl.com/~jgiles/shirts.html
FTP:  ftp.crl.com, directory: /users/jg/jgiles, login: anon., passwd:e-mail add

files via anonymous ftp are GIFs or UUE files.  Check em out!  now back to
your regularly scheduled program...

also, IF YOU ARE LOSING YOUR EDU ACCOUNT FOR THE SUMMER SOON, MAKE SURE
YOU GIVE ME THE APPROPRIATE ADDRESS TO SEND THE SHIRT TO!  Thanks!

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SEPERATE BUT RELATED THOUGHT:  would anyone be interested in a flag or 
banner or something with the Dream Theater logo on it?> I could tack it onto
this order easily I think... let me know you ideas if you think this is
worth it.  thanx,

jason
email_address_removed



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Date:         Wed, 10 May 95 15:00:26 CST
From: Brandon Vaughn <email_address_removed>
To: email_address_removed
Subject: How to get Awake TAB / Mirror Intro
Message-ID: <message_id_removed>

Here's the information I forgot to post about the Awake TAB book:
  ISBN #: 0-89724-608-X
  Warner Bros. Phone #: 1-800-327-7643 (ext.(?) or option 2)
I believe option 2 is personal sales. Anyway, you can get either I&W
or Awake TAB books for $24.95 plus s/h.

The time sigs I posted for Mirror were taken from the book which was
edited by John Petrucci. I didn't mean to imply anyone was right or
wrong; I didn't work it out. I just wanted to tell all of you what this
book said. Just eighths and sixteenths according to the book. He does
just play a straight rhythm, so it must be Mike who is causing the
different time sigs (like the 12/8 part). Anyway, I'm sure there is
more than one way to look at it or notate it.
Brandon Vaughn     *** email_address_removed ***


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Date:         Wed, 10 May 95 15:03:38 CST
From: Brandon Vaughn <email_address_removed>
To: email_address_removed
Subject: Guitar on SDV / King's X dropped?
Message-ID: <message_id_removed>


One thing I noticed on the Awake TAB book's transcription of SDV is
that John used an EBow on some of the parts in SDV. I thought that
was interesting. Looks like he really experimented with equipment on
Awake.

Hairball, did I hear you say that King's X was dropped from their
label?!  What has happened to them, anybody?

Brandon Vaughn  *** email_address_removed ***


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Date: Wed, 10 May 1995 18:29:35 -0500 (CDT)
From: Eric Moegling <email_address_removed>
To: email_address_removed
Subject: TESTING
Message-ID: <Pine.SUN.3.91.950510182817.28936A-100000@bigcat>

If You Get This Can You PLEASE Send me a response (and please responde to 
me, and not to the list) I'm testing to see if it's just me, or if the 
YTSE is down or something...Sorry for not haing any DT content...and 
thanX for your help!!!

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According to the circle of fifths, and the order of sharps and flats:
If the alphabet continued as notes progressed (Using Major Key Sigs) (i.e.
A, B, C, D, E, F, G, H, I, etc.) eventually the key of Z Major would have
4 sharps.
StatisticZ Show that if a Person is born with perfect pitch, chanceZ are 
they will grow up to be a famous....Baseball player :)

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		Eric Moegling:  email_address_removed

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fOr MoRE nFo AboUT mE fIngEr: email_address_removed
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