YTSEJAM Digest 815 Today's Topics: 1) Jon Finn Group (sorta DT related) by Michael Burstin 2) Re: Cacophony (non-DT) by Nate Bradley 3) 6:00 by Steve Borzilleri 4) ROSS6--I mean, uh, AirDance by Steve Borzilleri 5) Oops! by Andrew J Feyder 6) Space-Dye Vest by Steve Borzilleri 7) Anonymous by Steve Borzilleri 8) Hello, Ytsejam Post by Michael Backof 9) Dream Set by "Richard A. Rivera" 10) Re: A Dream Set for Dream Theater by A Humble Dream Theater Fanatic 11) Video CDs by Christopher Taylor Oates 12) Re: WD&JU approval by "Mark A. Parker" 13) Subconscious review by "R. Haskin" 14) Re: Setlist? by Owen Duncan Smith 15) Scarred mistake. by "Brian J. Wherry" 16) Re: My Subconscious by email_address_removed (Jon Larkowski) 17) My last Mirror post. by email_address_removed (Matt Gundry) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Sun, 7 May 1995 14:18:42 -0400 (EDT) From: Michael Burstin To: email_address_removed (Ytsejam SERVER) Subject: Jon Finn Group (sorta DT related) Message-ID: Well, this is sorta DT related... I just bought a CD by the Jon Finn Group called "Don't Look So Serious"... anyway, they opened for DT here in Boston at Berklee... The band is a Satch/Vai/Hoey kind of band... Anyway, the CD is really cool, so for those of you in the New England area... Its a great CD to buy... I got it at Newbury Comics, so most of the local area shops should have it... If you saw DT here, and were as impressed with them as I was, I would definatly recommend it... -- +----------------------------------------+----------------+---------+ | And I'll smile and learn to pretend | Dream Theater | Michael | | And I'll never be open again | Space Dye Vest | Burstin | | And I'll have no more dreams to defend |-----Awake------+---------+ | And I'll never be open again | Let's Go Pens | +----------------------------------------+--------------------------+ For info about Dream Theater, finger email_address_removed http://cs.brandeis.edu/~mikeb/home.html ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 7 May 1995 14:14:56 -0500 (CDT) From: Nate Bradley To: email_address_removed Subject: Re: Cacophony (non-DT) Message-ID: Brain, Thanks for posting that letter. I don't have a Cacophony WWW page but I do have a Marty Friedman and Jason Becker Pages so I will post the letter there. The current address for these pages is http://www.d.umn.edu/~nbradley/music.html But they will soon be moving to the same account as the Savatage pages below. Other interesting things. The Savatage Pages have had a lot added if yo haven't checked with in the last week or two. Dr. Butcher info as well as merchandise that is available from the band. The Savatage Pages are at http://www.d.umn.edu/~tsands/savatage > > > Hi Brian, > In Cacophony, I used for the most part my Jackson Kelley (the same > one that I use now as my live back-up) a Carvin V220 and a Les Paul for > rhythm. Sometimes I would use Jason's Hurricane (the blue one) which was > great. Jason used the Hurricane and a Carvin strat shape (the Go Off cover > one). Our music was so busy, we didn't want too much effects muddying things > up. I used a Boss super overdrive and Jason used a Ibanez tube screamer. > We had a good rappore as soon as we met; you are right, it's rare to > find 2 guitarist who are so willing to put egos down and really work > together. > I do keep in touch with him, and he will recover from his terrible > disease if you join me in praying for him. Also he has a new solo Lp coming > out (I don't know when, but it's done) that will blow your mind. Thanx alot > for writing... MF > ::::::::::::::::: email_address_removed :::::::::::::::::::::::::::: Nathan I Bradley the more I think 1320 Stadium Dr. G106 the more I tend to worry Duluth, MN 55812-2405 -Fates Warning (218) 726-7720 URL http://www.d.umn.edu/~nbradley/ ============================================================================ ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 7 May 1995 13:36:54 -0700 (PDT) From: Steve Borzilleri To: Dream Thespians Subject: 6:00 Message-ID: First and foremost, (playfully) Jessa You Devil! I was less than sixty seconds from hitting Control-X to send this post to YJ, when the latest one popped into my mailbox and I read your transcription! ARGH!! Oh well, here it is, same as before I read YJ #814: (devil!) ---- There have been a few requests for a transcription of this part, so here you go! This is the heavy instrumental jam from "6:00." (starting at 3:52 in the song) This is a transcription for guitar, though I suppose bassists could use it too, since Myung plays this line during the softer "The pain inside..." part: (waitaminute, didn't a bassist request this most recently?) "The pain inside... Comin' outside..." E -------------------------------- B -------------------------------- G -2-0-2-0-2-0---2-0-2-0-2-0---0-2 D -------------2-------------2---- A -------------------------------- E -------------------------------- -------------------------------- -------------------------------- -3-4-3-0-2-0---0-2-1-2-0-2-3-2-0 -------------2------------------ -------------------------------- -------------------------------- -------------------------------- -------------------------------- -2-0-2-0-2-0---2-0-2-0-2-0---0-2 -------------2-------------2---- -------------------------------- -------------------------------- -------------------------------- -----3-------------------------- -3-4---3-4-3-2-3-2-0-2-0---0---0 -------------------------4---4-- -------------------------------- -------------------------------- -------------------------------- -------------------3---5-3------ -2-0-2-0-2-0---3-2---3-----3-2-0 -------------2------------------ -------------------------------- -------------------------------- -------------------------------- ---------------3-----------3---- -3-4-3-2-4-3-2---4-3-2-0-----4-3 -------------------------2------ -------------------------------- -------------------------------- -------------------------------- -----------------------5---3---- -2-3-2-0-2---0-3-4---0---------3 -----------4-------2-----2---2-- -------------------------------- -------------------------------- -------------------------------- -------3-5-3---3-2---2-0-------- -4-2-4-------4-----2-----0-3-2-0 -------------------------------- -------------------------------- -------------------------------- "So many ways to drown a man..." The neat thing about this passage is that during the "Pain inside..." part, the keyboard and bass are doing this without the guitar. Then on the heavy double-kick part (the jam!) the bass goes back to its normal part while the guitar joins the keyboard, still playing this riff. Then when the vocals come back in ("So many ways...") the keyboard continues with this same exact riff while the guitar and bass both go off into their own thing. I guess Kevin wanted this line to be held through several measures by different instruments, or he liked it so much he played it for 12 counts of 8 on his own and let the other guys do what they wanted! Hmmm....the end of "Innocence Faded" has been mentioned a lot...hmmm...so has that fast lick from "Pull Me Under"....hmmm....don't suppose anyone would be interested in either of those....? ;> Bafu Vai ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 7 May 1995 14:11:48 -0700 (PDT) From: Steve Borzilleri To: Dream Thespians Subject: ROSS6--I mean, uh, AirDance Message-ID: It's always nice when flamethrowers are full of fuel and aimed, complete with the pilot-light going, yet the trigger is left in the released position. I have to say your response was one of the most mature and level-headed ones I've ever seen on the Internet. Yeah, so you're not in a Dream Theater cover band, and you can't sing a full octave higher and lower than James LaBrie, I applaud you anyway! Nice comment on the abortion issue, the feeling is mutual here. "Intellectual Copywright?" I can see why so many people dislike Garth Brooks now. I wonder what would happen if Socrates were alive today. He'd be the richest human being in history... You know, AirDance, yesterday I tried some Martini & ROSSi asti spumanti, and I have to say it was pretty darn good! My friend Mr. ROSSberg didn't like it too much, though, he said that compared to White Zinfandel it was gROSS! In fact, compared to _anything_ it was gROSS! He said it was nothing more than a cROSS between toilet water and acid! (okay, I'll stop already) To Steve Zebrowski: we need more people like you on the Internet. I believe you were the first to nicely ask that the whole R-----6 issue be dropped. I can respect that, but asking that it be switched to that other topic...what was it...the rhythms of...THE MIRROR?!! Hey, not to open up old wounds, but I think Mark Zonder could WHIP Kevin Moore at drumming with his eyes closed!!! Wait, he's not...um...nevermind. :) thanx steve! To whoever asked: Nope. No relation to Steve Vai, but Steve is definitely the reason it's "Bafu Vai" and not something else...like "Bafu Seliger" or "Bafu McFarlane" or other artists/musicians I really like. Yes the issue is dropped. (insert "Alive" lyrics here) Heyey aaah-hai, glooo-hohry, I'm still aliive. Yeah, and didn't PJ do a song called... JEREMY?! (evil cackling) Oh well. Better to be all-done than well-done. ;> thanx airdance! Bafu Vai p.s. kidnap the santy claws, lock him up real tight! throw away the key and then turn off all the lights! ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 7 May 1995 16:16:29 (CDT) From: Andrew J Feyder To: email_address_removed Subject: Oops! Message-ID: Could someone please subscribe me to the ACTUAL Dream Theater list? I don't want this one where people write petty posts a thousand lines long explaining why they posted someone's address or scolding them for doing such a thing. I would actually like to read a little more about DT. Please do this childish crap over private e-mail, so we ytsejammers don't have to read your bullshit. How much free time do you people have to be typing those LONG replies? I've read books shorter than that! GROW UP! As for some DT content, can anyone tell us whether or not the band will be coming back to the US this summer? I thought that was their plan, but perhaps this has been changed. I missed them the first time around on the Awake tour, and don't plan on that happening again. __________________________________________________________ | Andrew Joseph Feyder | "You know, life moves pretty | | Gustavus Adolphus College | fast. If you don't stop | | 800 West College Ave. | and look around, you could | | St. Peter MN 56082 | miss it" | | (507)-933-8715 | -Ferris Bueller. | |___________________________|______________________________| (O) - (O) / \ \_/ \_________/ \_______/ ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 7 May 1995 15:12:15 -0700 (PDT) From: Steve Borzilleri To: Dream Thespians Subject: Space-Dye Vest Message-ID: Space-Dye Vest, spoken samples: (2:03) "But he's the sort who can't know anyone intimately, least of all a woman. He doesn't know what a woman is. He wants you for a possession, something to look at, like a...painting, or, or an ivory box. Something to hold (?) and to display. He doesn't want you to be real, or to think, or to live. He doesn't love you. But I love you. I want you to have your own thoughts, and ideas, and feelings, even when I hold you in my arms. It's our last chance." (3:19) "I can move out, um, get, get a job, get my own place, m, m, I go in the mall and then they're like, tell me I'm, I'm still young." "Some people they-advice (slip-up by the speaker himself?) before, about facing facts, about facing the reality. And this is, this, without a doubt is his biggest challenge ever, he's going to have to face it. Ya gonna hafta try, he's gonna hafta try, and, uh, and, and, and get some help here, I c-- Now, no one can say they know how he feels." "That, so they say that'n yano (hyper-fast "that in, you know") like, Houston or something, you'd say it's, yeah, it's a-hundred-and-eighty degrees, but it's a DRY heat." * "In HOUSTON they say that?" "Oh, maybe not, I'm all mixed up!" * "Dry until I had the swimming pool..." * - this voice sounds an awful lot like Conan O' Brian. This next part reminds me of a family setting, possibly from a television show. A father is lecturing his son, with the mother nearby. The music is still fading out over the first sentence, but here's what comes after it: Father: "You're young enough, son. (loud piano) ...room, sleep in, I don't care what you do, I don't care when. That door gets locked...that door gets locked-" Mother: "At nine." Father: "At nine o' clock. You're not in this house by nine o' clock, then you'd better find someplace to sleep, because you're not gonna be a bum in this house. Supper is ready. (loud piano over last sentence)" That's it. Could a few jammers please listen to the song while reading the above transcription to verify the parts, make corrections, or add spicy comments full of panache? Thanks. ("Really? I had to look it up.") Bafu Vai ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 7 May 1995 15:25:22 -0700 (PDT) From: Steve Borzilleri To: Dream Thespians Subject: Anonymous Message-ID: No, Airdance, that first anonymous person was not Mike Bahr. Yes, we all know and love him dearly, but EENH! (buzzer noise) It was not him. Too bad you didn't guess on the second or third... BUT the first person who DOES correctly tell me who all three of those anonymous people are wins a free copy of my next project, "When 3 And James Unite" the Carreras, Domingo, Pavarotti, LaBrie vocal extravaganza you've all been waiting for! Bafu Vai p.s. that's a joke, no offense Mike. I can't wait to hear what this mystery track is, even though someone seems to have nailed its origin already! do the un-Subconscious a favor by NOT posting where that track comes from or what it is, at least not until everyone has theirs and is wracking their brains... p.p.s and yes, my "dream setlist" was a joke. it really is a dream setlist, alas confined to that realm. by logic, though, a dream setlist for a band could only be played in a dream theater... ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 7 May 1995 19:09:43 -0400 From: Michael Backof To: email_address_removed Subject: Hello, Ytsejam Post Message-ID: This is a message I wrote to Bafu Vai (Steve) yesterday. I wanted to see what was up with him before I posted. 1. This stuff about copywrite shit and such that Jen brought up depends on where you stand morally. Legally it is OK to sell a master copy of an album for whatever price you want. Jen is the only one with a DAT master and the rest of us have tape tree copies, unless you include all of the tapes distributed by Jen as masters, and the rest as copies. Still we only have copies and not a master, so I don't like someone selling them. Like Jen replied, persuing this over a couple of tapes is not financially smart. You lose less money not pursuing it then to actually spend time and money on a case. 2. If this guy has a second generation copy and he is selling them for above cost of a blank tape and supplies, then I find that morally objectionable. Same as someone selling a dub of a CD that is released. This is also illegal, but again it isn't usually pursued unless this practice is being done in volume by someone. Like in China with the illegal copies of American artist's studio albums. 3. Boots, you know that I own them. My thing with them is that it is an opportunity to further extend your collection and appreciation of an artist. If I can get the material legally I will not buy them. I will also only buy them if they are something I really want. I don't treat them like studio albums. I would rather trade for them and get them on tape where neither the artist or the bootlegger profit. (As opposed to just the bootlegger profiting) 4. I agree with you that it is uncool to post other people's personal stuff to the internet without their permission. Unfortunately, this is just my view. 5. Jeremy. Well I traded with this guy a couple of times and got my stuff, but this was back before Christmas. He took a long time on the second trade, but after bugging him I did get the stuff. 6. My estimation of Jeremy is that he is someone who got in over his head with trading and either couldn't deal with it, or he decided it would be OK to jump ship since he really doesn't "know" any of us because we only communicate through the net. People on BBS systems seem to have this problem more than those of us on the internet. This generate an alias and an identity which justifies immoral actions. He could be mentally fucked up, like some of the crackers I know. Any number of possibilities, but these are my theories since I do know he was a good trader for several months. 8. My projects, I have a question about related bands material on Ytsejam. Are you for it? I plan to write a whole bunch of band reviews over the summer and put them in a database. Should I post related band capsules to Ytsejam or just put a pointer to the WWW page I am going to build, I would only be posting info on progressive metal bands to Ytsejam, that hopefully would be of interest to the people who read the digest. Later, Mike email_address_removed PS. Thanks Jen for the Drum magazine article. I got my copy in the mail a couple of days ago! ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 7 May 1995 20:01:00 -0400 (EDT) From: "Richard A. Rivera" To: Dream Theater Subject: Dream Set Message-ID: I'm procrastinating right now. I 've got a math and poli-sci final tomorrow, so here goes my dream set: Metropolis pt. 1 (straight into) Caught in a Web Another Day Ytse Jam (during Mike's solo, he goes straight into) 6:00 Wait for Sleep Surrounded Mission: Impossible Innocence Faded (extended jam) A Mind Beside Itself ----Encore------ Under a Glas Moon Lifting Shadows Off A Dream Scarred Any feedback? Richie ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 7 May 1995 19:09:40 -0500 (CDT) From: A Humble Dream Theater Fanatic To: email_address_removed Cc: Multiple recipients of list Subject: Re: A Dream Set for Dream Theater Message-ID: Not as a flame but you left out one good point. Maybe they arent a five album multi-million selling band like metallica but DT doesnt write 3 minutes non-quality songs. Just thought i would stand up for DT. On Sun, 7 May 1995, Aviad Shkolnikov wrote: > Yo People! > I've read a few articles about the perfect set of a DT concert. After > watching Megadeth and Therapy play for an hour-hour and a half, I was > surprised to watch Some of those "dream sets" went up to two hours and > beyond in length! C'mon people (I can only remember Bafu Vai right now)! > This band isn't a five album, multi-milion selling band like Metallica, > who can afford playing for two and a half hours... > Bye! > GrooveGun. > > **************************************************************************** > * "We went shoping for God, * "Can't you see there's only * > * and got the God of Shoping..." * one me, and that me is me" * > * Galiano * Faith No More * * > * - Aviad Shkolnikov IS a cool name! * > **************************************************************************** > Ed WWW: http://www.cen.uiuc.edu/~polzin/ A Change of Seasons -------------------------------------- I'll always remember the chill of November the news of the fall the sounds in the hall the clock on the wall ticking away Seize the day I heard him say life will not always be this way look around, and hear the sound another time like this can't be found -------------------------------------- ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 7 May 1995 17:27:23 -0700 (PDT) From: Christopher Taylor Oates To: email_address_removed Subject: Video CDs Message-ID: SOmeone mentioned Video CDs. All of the Next Gen consoles with a CD player do or should soon support playing Video CDs, not just the 3DO. If this is true about the DT Vid CD, it's one more reason for me to be waiting for the Jaguar CD... :) ~Chris __ /\ __ __\/__\/__ \_||_/ /__||__\ // \ | \\ \| ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 7 May 1995 19:33:20 -0500 From: "Mark A. Parker" To: email_address_removed Subject: Re: WD&JU approval Message-ID: > "so is this _When Dream & James Unite_ thing ever going to happen?? I want a > copy!! Will you make sure that I get one??" Later, our beloved Dr. Mosh > also talked to Mike about this project, as did other YJammers that night, & > Mike continually expressed enthusiasm for it. To me, this is a statement > implying approval for that particular project from a band member. If Mike > doesn't mind what Mike Bahr is doing, I don't think anyone else should > either. :) my opinion would be we would have to sell Petrucci and James on the idea. Mike doesn't have a problem with bootlegs, it seems, so of course he wouldn't mind the project... the other 2 represent the other end of the spectrum, and if they were convinced, then there probably wouldn't be a problem with any of the band. Have to remember Mike isn't representative of the band on this issue (come to think of it, Mike is sort of a wild card ;) ). Probably the most interested party would be James... has anyone heard about his opinion? Dom'ny ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 7 May 1995 18:20:44 -0700 (PDT) From: "R. Haskin" To: email_address_removed Subject: Subconscious review Message-ID: Greetings Jammers - First of all, this post is dedicated to Mike Bahr. I think I'll be toasting his name at the bar every friday night for many years for what he's done on tis CD. Mike, we can't possibly thank you enough fr bringing this rare, special material to all of us fans who appreciate it best. Now, on with the review! EVE- This is a great version of the song, but not really anything special since I've already got the "Dance of Eternity" set. It is nice to not have to hear that lousy beginning to Pull Me Under right at the end, however! CHANGE OF SEASONS- Same story, second verse as far as this not being new for me. I love the song, however, and I'm very anxious to hear a studio version (perhaps with the samples that are on the Chris Cintron version!) on the EP later this year. I do appreciate that Mike toned down the _overdone_ bass from the DoE boot. O HOLY NIGHT- I'm not much of a fan of Charlie, but I _love_ this song. I've never quite heard a hymn done this way before, but I really like it. Petrucci's great string work and Portnoy's skins are very good, and don't ruin the feeling of the song. I sure can't wait to hear this one with LaBrie on the EP (at least I _hope_ the fan club bio is correct in predicting this release!!) But what's with that intro?! CARRY THAT WEIGHT- Again, not being a fan of Dominici, I think he sounds fine here. I really like the guys' treatment of the Beatles here. Respectful to the song, yet still definitely Dream Theater! Great conservative drum solo, there, Mike! DON'T LOOK PAST ME- This is one of my favorites on the album. It's too bad that it's only a demo, so the original recording wasn't probably that fantastic to begin with. I'd really like to hear it well recorded with James at the Helm. The song itself is a lot like a WDADU track. The samples are cool, and Kevin's keys sometimes remind me of Status Seeker. I really like the time changes, as well. Sorry, but Hendricks has got to go. WANTED DEAD OR ALIVE- I haven't laughed so hard in a long time. This is a song that DESERVED to be heard! I know that's Rich doing the chimpumk imitation in the background, but is that Kevin on leads? This will entertain me for quite a long time TO LIVE FOREVER- This is a fantastic treatment of this already great tune. I really love the piano, and is that Myung playing the second "rhythm" guitar part? Too bad it's sped up a bit, though..... THE GORILLA SESSION- Musical masturbation by _THE_ man! Kind of pointless, but still good. MISSION:IMPOSSIBLE THEME- This is great! I already have the version from the Lost in the Sky boot, but it's nice to hear studio outtakes like this. So, Mike, how DID Z-rock get a copy of this to use on the air?? :> BACK PAIN JAM- Recording leaves a bit to be desired, as does the guy talking (!), but the music is impeccable! No wonder these guys can always come up with geat studio tracks! I'd be perfectly happy to watch them jam all day like this! AWAKE HEAVY JAM- I like this better than the Back Pain Jam. I like the John/Derek interplay on this song. EXPARIMENTAL- Mying? Give that man a guitar! Yes, a little pointlass agan and without much structure, but I like acoustic stuff. I hope a version of this appears later, either on an album or live. TEARS- As a hard-core Rush fan, this is a dream (no pun) come true. Before I heard this, I had no idea how James was going to pull this off, but I'm impressed. (now I'm anxious to hear how he handled Marillion's Easter) I hope this appears as a B-side, either on the Silent Man single or the ACOS EP. These covers deserve to be heard as well... WINTER- I'm not a Tori fan, but after this (as well as Kevin's _Song For Tori_), I think I'm poised to become one! James handles this one well, and I think he does it justice without sounding like Tiny Tim and being Mr. Falsetto. MYSTERY- Okay, so it's a software thing. Does everyone know this but me? Clue me in? Overall, I'm very very happy. This one won't be leaving the CD player for quite some time -- or, until Mike's Cygnus CD shows up at my house! This compilation was well worth the wait, and is one of the stars of my collection. Thank you again, Mike. By the way, where the hell did you get "Vigil" from? Geez, you'd think you worked for an Italian Boot company the way that tracklist was labeled! :> Randy Haskin email_address_removed ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 07 May 1995 19:08:59 -0700 From: Owen Duncan Smith To: Multiple recipients of list Cc: email_address_removed Subject: Re: Setlist? Message-ID: For the first time in a long time... >From: Steve Borzilleri >To: Dream Thespians >Subject: Setlist? > >Okay, here's my "dream" setlist for the upcoming tour: > >A Fortune In Lies >Status Seeker >The Ytse Jam >The Killing Hand >Light Fuse And Get Away >Afterlife >The Ones Who Help To Set The Sun >Only A Matter Of Time >Pull Me Under >Another Day >Take The Time >Surrounded >Metropolis Part 1 > >break/intermission > >Under A Glass Moon >Wait For Sleep >Learning To Live >6:00 >Caught In A Web >Innocence Faded >Erotomania >Voices >The Silent Man >The Mirror >Lie >Lifting Shadows Off A Dream >Scarred >Space-Dye Vest > >encore: > >Eve >A Change Of Seasons >To Live Forever > >Yup, that should satisfy every fan... :) > > >Bafu Vai Naaaaaw, you forgot the improv material. Should be at least 5 (one for each of the band to showcase), plus another where they ALL go at it, and a 7th with a *special guest*. Here's a q: who should the special guest be and what should they play? I say maybe Mattias Olssen from Anglagard on concert bass drum (they'd better order the spare drumheads ASAP!), with them perhaps launching from an extended jam into "Mars" from Holst's The Planets? Hmm... been done too many times already. How about Orff's Carmina Burana? THAT should give James plenty of material to work with. After all, we want to get our money's worth. :) Maybe we should expand this into a 2-day festival... Dream Theater's WOIAW (World Of Images And Words)... with free Portnoy-autographed Pro-Mark drumsticks and Kevin Moore Sample CD-ROMs for YTSEJAM list members... AND let people from the audience jam with them! ...naw, now I'm DEFINITELY dreaming... :) -- Owen Smith email_address_removed http://www-leland.stanford.edu/~orpheus/ ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 07 May 95 23:34:55 EST From: "Brian J. Wherry" To: Subject: Scarred mistake. Message-ID: <07MAY95.25468687.0016.MUSIC@LAFAYACS> In my last post, the part in Scarred that I was referring to is in 3/4 the entire time. No measure of 4/4. Sorry. Carry on, then. Carry on. So whaddy'all think? 7-string there or not? Brian ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 7 May 1995 23:43:27 -0600 From: email_address_removed (Jon Larkowski) To: email_address_removed Subject: Re: My Subconscious Message-ID: >15. What can I say. I love this. It won me a free copy of Mike Bahr's >Cygnus project. Whoo hoo! Plus I'm addicted to the game! OK, I've lived in ignorance enough, what is the "Cygnus project?" -- ::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::: :: _ _____ _____ _ __ :: :: :: :: | | | _ | _ | | / / :: Jon Larkowski :: This space :: :: | | | |_| | |_| | |/ / :: Covert Free-Net Operative :: intentionally :: :: | |__| _ | _ <| |\ \ :: email_address_removed :: left blank. :: :: |____|_| |_|_| \_|_| \_\ :: :: :: ::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::: ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 8 May 1995 00:44:39 -0400 From: email_address_removed (Matt Gundry) To: email_address_removed Subject: My last Mirror post. Message-ID: 12/8 is the proper way to write that part, I agree. It eliminates the need to transcribe a tempo change. However, it is a mere technicallity, as either method of transcription gives the same results. Most musicians I know freak out when they see 12/8, but they are perfectly comfortable with 4/4. For that reason I stuck with 4/4. My next question would be-Is Take the Time also "officially" transcribed in 12/8? I would suspect that it was, as it is nearly the same case. Concerning Rob Devereux's post, I'm damn glad at least Mr. Portnoy agrees with me. Enough said. Matt Gundry _ _ _ / \/ \/ \ _ _/_/_ / / / / \ / / / / / \_/ \_/\_/\_ email_address_removed email_address_removed Voice/Data/Fax (906)-482-4187 ------------------------------ End of YTSEJAM Digest 815 *************************