YTSEJAM Digest 779 Today's Topics: 1) Queensryche/Ytsejam by Boo-ba Fett 2) the Typical DT-song ! by email_address_removed.se (Henrik Gustafsson) 3) Whoops & Labrie's Voice by Steve Borzilleri 4) progressive? by Brian Nielsen 5) Jester Vai Petrucci LaBrie by Steve Borzilleri 6) HELP!!! PLEASE! by LORDE ANDREW 7) Tim Lodge OK, Plugs, Voices, etc., etc. by Michael Backof 8) Re: progressive? by William Wright 9) Pavarotti by email_address_removed.se 10) James Labrie by John B Ashcraft 11) Re: YTSEJAM digest 778 by Alex Lifeson 12) Yes's Talk by "David John Baranski" 13) VAI/thx Anthony Jones.... by email_address_removed 14) Bang Tango. NO DT CONTENT by email_address_removed (John Hough) 15) Re: YTSEJAM digest 778 by email_address_removed (MISS JAIME K KIMPTON) 16) SCREAMING IN DIGITAL! by email_address_removed (MISS JAIME K KIMPTON) 17) TIM LODGE. by "John R. Kotzian" 18) definitions... by Rycher 19) by A Humble Dream Theater Fanatic 20) Re: Sustain?! by Hairball 21) Marillion (non-DT) by John B Ashcraft 22) Re: Sustain?! by email_address_removed (Dr. Mosh) 23) Thanks by SGA/POLITICAL SCIENCE '95/MACLAB 24) apology from Frank by email_address_removed (Ken Bibb) 25) Re: Marillion (non-DT) by email_address_removed (Ken Bibb) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Sun, 9 Apr 1995 02:56:31 -0700 (MST) From: Boo-ba Fett To: ytsejam Subject: Queensryche/Ytsejam Message-ID: Hey - I just am pretty excited and wanted to tell some people that i dont really know... i am going to Queensryche!!! my friend and QR freak drew the number one ticket for the lottery and we got our 8 7th row center tickets. I am quite excited, and will have a hard time waiting the 3.5 millions seconds to the may 19 show... You know what i dont like? i dont like people who tell people to get off the list. that seems so arrogant, there are a lot of very different people on this list, that have different ideas of what should be on this list: from the strict DT-content only to the things like people talking about sound technical data stuff and other bands that they like... i personally like the inclusion of it all, and think that it would become dry if there was only strict DT stuff. i also get annoyed at personal attacks. i mean, a disagreement on something, no matter what it is, is fine, but why get so mad at the people? i mean, if no one else likes my favorite band, The 77s, it doesnt bother me. and if people wanna say that they suck, thats their perogative, and its mine to respond by saying that i love them, but i dont think that i should have the right to personally attack that(those) person(people). we have different tastes. accept it. Don't get me wrong, I love ytsejam, however you say it. I love the fact that we are here because we love DT, but we don't have to only discuss DT. we all know that we like them, so we can get really in depth into what they do, and/or we can go off on weird tangents about other bands and stuff like that. i love hearing about the people on the list... I also dont like posts that go off on weird moralistic tangents and dont make fun of themselves in the end :) (Yes, Anistasia, this is ending soon) weird moralistic tangents can be interesting, but one must realize that they can get boring, so i'm gonna quit now and go figure out what classes i'm signing up for in 4 hours... Boo-ba Fett - aka John Haveman --------------------------------------------------------------- and as the final sunset rolls behind the earth and the clock is finally dead i'll look at you, you'll look at me and we'll cry alot - White, Discussion but this will be what we said edward kowalczyk this will be what we said look where all this talking got us baby. ps wow, this somehow seems appropriate, though i chose it before i went off... ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 9 Apr 1995 12:21:39 +0100 From: email_address_removed.se (Henrik Gustafsson) To: email_address_removed Subject: the Typical DT-song ! Message-ID: Hi ! Last weekend my mother came to visit me, and since I've been talking a lot about DT and ordered some tapes and stuff, she wanted to hear something. I tried with SpaceDyeVest, and it was ok!. Then I tried aMBH. Guess she wasn't that impressed because we started talking and doing other things. I really didn't think she would go crazy about them, because she knows nothing about music. What I meant by this post was: Which DT-song is most typical for DT. SDV is not, that for sure. Still it is one of their best. Perhaps aCoS, but that one is 20 min and almost impossible to get people to start listen to. Metropolis and Learning to Live are brilliant too, but most DT-songs aren't in that way. I guess I would go for PullMeUnder. What do you think ? Of course I know it is an almost impossible task, and to catagorize a band to one single song is petronising, but still. If you like, we've got a new topic Henrik Gustafsson email_address_removed.se Dream Theater Drottninggatan 62 c 7 +46 (0) 520-155 98 Toni Holgersson S-461 33 Trollha:ttan 070-814 24 38 Just D ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 9 Apr 1995 05:20:37 -0700 (PDT) From: Steve Borzilleri To: Dream Thespians Subject: Whoops & Labrie's Voice Message-ID: Are posts supposed to be, uh, "short?" If this is so, why haven't you guys lynched me yet?! I'll be the first to admit that my posts are looooong. Okay, from now on, I'll keep 'em short. All I can say is "whoops!" To Rob Weychert: Let me rephrase whatever it was I said. My FAVORITE vocalists. Favorite. Not "best," just who I happen to like most. You may notice that I did not mention Placido Domingo. FRANKly (pun intended) I think his voice is very froggish, and not at all as clear or ringing as Hose Carreras' or Luciano Pavarotti. So I don't put him in my list of "favorite" singers. Now, about James LaBrie. He is one of my "favorites." Carreras, Pavarotti, LaBrie, Ann Wilson, Sammy Hagar, etc. No, Hagar might not be as "able" or "accomplished" as those others, but I really, really like him, so I throw him in with other vocalists whom I really, really like. This whole argument is like comparing Chet Atkins to Steve Vai. Technically, Steve could kick Chet's ass, but Chet is still the best at what Chet does, and no one else plays like him. Therefore, since I see how each of them are in the top of their respective classes, I could call both Chet and Steve "good" or "my favorite" knowing full well that they are not equal in the overall spectrum of what they do. SO, to recap: James LaBrie is, in my opinion, as good a vocalist in his genre as, say, Luciano Pavarotti. They are both "favorites" of mine. And to stray from the point, do you think Pavarotti could sing "Under A Glass Moon" like LaBrie can? Personally, I don't think he could, because it's not his vocal style. (ie not operatic enough) So does that make him any less of a vocalist than LaBrie? Bafu Vai ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 9 Apr 1995 15:49:49 +0200 From: Brian Nielsen To: email_address_removed Subject: progressive? Message-ID: >>>>> "Alex" == Alex Lifeson writes: Alex> William Wright wrote: >> fact it's very Progressive. I'm not saying that Metropolis >> doesn't have some metal riffs... they just combine Metal and >> Progressive very well. Still, they have some flaws... some >> inparticular are Another Day, Surrounded, and Silent Man. Not >> that these aren't good, they're just not Progressive. Alex> is no 'Semi-Progressive' band, capitals or not. And as for Alex> Another Day, Surounded and The Silent Man not being Alex> progressive...How many -non-progressive' songs have a Alex> natural time signature of 5/4? How about time sigs of 5/8 Alex> 5/8 5/8 4/8? Or the chord progressions in the bridge of The Alex> Silent Man? I could count them on my fingers. 0. Proving The only thing one can conclude from this is that YOUR definition of progressive music is the use of non-standard time signatures. William just mentioned three song that aren't Progressive (in his opinion), but DO have these non-standard time signatures. Actually you can discuss progressiveness forever, without ever reaching a conclusion. I no longer cares if something is progressive or not, it's just that people on "progressive" newsgroups for the most part seem more intelligent than those on other newsgroup (a rule with ALOT of exceptions!!!). Thats just my opinion. Whatever it's worth... ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 9 Apr 1995 08:22:03 -0700 (PDT) From: Steve Borzilleri To: Dream Thespians Subject: Jester Vai Petrucci LaBrie Message-ID: Black Jester: cool stuff, but not as "polished" as Dream Theater. They've got serious talent, they just need to brush up on getting everything tighter-sounding. Their vocalist also mumbles a lot... Steve Vai: okay, that passage in question... The background music of the talking part in "Answers" sounds somewhat like the part on "Sex & Religion" just before "Down Deep Into The Pain." These two parts are not the exact same thing, but they do sound similar. Petrucci: "Summer Guitar Workshop video?" What is that? LaBrie: This is mostly to William Wright. So you don't think I put LaBrie up there with Carreras? Well, uh, I think I do. Now I'll do it again. I put LaBrie up there with Carreras. Any more objections to what I think I think? I have to disagree with the statement, "If James really was that good, he wouldn't be singing rock music." Do you suppose that maybe, just maybe, if James didn't want to sing opera, he wouldn't? Do you suppose that maybe he actually WANTED to sing rock? Do you suppose that his personal tastes and wants/likes dictate his actions and what direction he takes his singing? As for cracking notes live, the guy runs around, man! You can't hit those high notes when you're out of breath and screaming at the audience to "make some noise, peopAAAAAALL!" Pavarotti stands in one place, and only sings what he is supposed to sing. His voice is his life. He takes care of it, and does not jump around while performing. James, from what I can tell, does not take care of his voice or perform as one taking extreme care of their voice should. He's not in opera, nor is Pavarotti in rock. In the two shows I have seen, LaBrie stood in one place, and did not "push" any of his notes higher than they are on the albums. Those two performances were flawless. But most of the time, from what I hear, that is not the case. He dances around, shouts at the audience, or sings various notes much higher than on the albums. Ergo, his voice cracks. And I never compared the two of them in the way you are saying. Or did my last post never get through? Oh well. The phrase "I put Labrie up there with" basically means I like whoever it is I'm relating James to, and in my own opinion they are equally good because my own personal tastes dictate them to be of equal pleasure towards my senses. And that's all I have to say about that. Bafu Vai p.s. my mama always said a Dream Theater show is like a box'a choc-lites. You nevah know what you goin' git... ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 9 Apr 1995 11:44:31 -0400 (EDT) From: LORDE ANDREW To: email_address_removed Subject: HELP!!! PLEASE! Message-ID: 1) HI everybody, I need some help here. My friend and I got tickets for the Van Halen tour here in Cleveland, and him being possibly the largest Van Halen fan I've ever met (and Guitar player), he was going on about how Eddie is the guitar "god". Well, he totally disbelieves anything that I have to say about other guitarists being good at what they do, and will not listen to reason. So here's the deal: I would like you guitarist-type (or other fans) people to help me find some selections from WDADU, I&W, and AWAKE that will show him that there are other guitarists out there worth considering "Great". I can hear things on the cds that really impress me, but I don't know what is easy to play, and what is hard and complicated. I know that if it sounds hard, that's not always the case. I would really like to shut him up, and get him to stop dismissing other great players as lowly peons in the shadow of Eddie. 2) I got tickets to the Queensryche show, with TON. I personally am excited about it, because I like both bands (truly, Queensryche was the band that got me started listening to heavier music), and I just wanted to say that I agree, it sems like an odd combination, but oh well. That's the way it goes. Anybody out there who's seen the show, do you know if they play "The Killing Words" from _Rage For Order_?? 3) All right, this is the end. I just wnated to thank all you folks again for the discussions of other bands. This may be the Dream Theater list, and many people may think that discussion should only pertain to that topic, but I am glad that bands like Fates come up. If not for these discussions, I would never have bought any of their stuff. But now they are one of my favorite bands. I just got _Awaken the Guardian_, and I love it. "Gaurdian" is truly a moving song. And by the way, I don't think that John Arch is that bad (I can hear the flamethrowers now!), but certainly he is not as good, IMHO, as Ray. If you have a suggstion for OPERATION : RESPECT GUITARS, please respond to me via e-mail. My address is email_address_removed. Thanks a lot, let's show my friend how ignorant he can be! Andy ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Though I stand here, alone and afraid, My thoughts transfixed, my thoughts transfixed on future days - Surrounded by your love I will stand tall, Though all around me, my enemies fall. And you stand right next to me, right through it all. For love is the force, the force that conquers all. -Me ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Andy Dixon email_address_removed POBox 654 Hiram, OH 44234 Phone: (216)569-5027 ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 9 Apr 1995 11:49:38 -0400 From: Michael Backof To: email_address_removed Subject: Tim Lodge OK, Plugs, Voices, etc., etc. Message-ID: Hello again, I forgot what I last spoke about on here, it has been a while. Tim Lodge --------- I know others have come to his defense and I will as well. He is a very prompt and efficient trader. The fact that the recipient is in Italy while Tim is in the USA could easily be the problem. Sending mail to certain countries through the snail routes are risky and time consuming at best. Plugs/ Trading -------------- I like to thank you all for this award. Thanks for the trading plugs by those I have delt with in the past. Since I have finished those compilation tapes I offered to make for nothing, I am trading boots again and I will also continue to make customized compilation tapes (mail me for info) of Progressive songs or anything else I have collected that interests you. My boots consist of Pink Floyd (25), Rush (25), Dream Theater (15), Marillion (20), and lesser amounts of Queensryche, Yes, King Crimson, Echolyn, and tori Amos. Mail me for a list. In Progressive circles I have albums by King Crimson, Threshold, Black Jester, Marillion, Kingston Wall, Orzic Tentacles, Magellan, Asgard, Cynic, Fate's, Echolyn, and these my be of interest to readers. Progressive vs. "progressive" ----------------------------- I have to agree with those who made the difference between Progressive and progressive. Progressive is a certain sound that is routed in the 1970's and late 1960's which in many cases began as progressive (ie innovative, different, constantly changing). Lots of the early Progressive groups have ceased to exist or have ceased to be progressive, but they are still Progressive. ELP, Yes, Rush (we could argue about them but unless the new album does something new and creative instead of retro (Counterparts), or pop (Roll the Bones) they will fit this grouping). There are also bands that are retro (ie Jadis, IQ, Arena) that are dubbed Progressive, just because they use the sounds ie instrumental devices of earlier bands (sometimes this is difficult not to do) and don't do that much new stuff with them. Then there are retro bands (ie Mastermind, Anglagard, Echolyn) that progress and are Progressive. Isn't this a fun topic.... As to Green Day being progressive, the bill is out on that, if they put out a new experimental punk album that differs from their first album then they may be progressive, but not Progressive. Right now I would categorize them as retro since the punk thing has been done before. OK, this message is long enough, later, Mike email_address_removed ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 9 Apr 1995 11:05:05 -0500 (CDT) From: William Wright To: email_address_removed Subject: Re: progressive? Message-ID: On Sat, 8 Apr 1995, Alex Lifeson wrote: > William Wright wrote: > > >fact it's very Progressive. I'm not saying that Metropolis doesn't have some > >metal riffs... they just combine Metal and Progressive very well. Still, > >they have some flaws... some inparticular are Another Day, Surrounded, > >and Silent Man. Not that these aren't good, they're just not Progressive. > > I think a band that does progressive songs, whether they are all > progressive or not,are still considered progressive bands.Look at Yes and Rush. > These two bands have written their share of 'non-progressive' songs. Owner of Yes... and many diehard progressive fands hate both Rush, and Rabin (infested) Yes. They think they're too pop sounding. Same goes for Dream Theater. They can't look past their few pop songs and figure out that they DO have Progressive songs too. What you must remember is that some (most) Progressive music is some WEIRD shit. REALLY REALLY WEIRD. And well Metropolis is the WEIRDEST DTs ever gotten, and it still doesn't touch some of the things King Crimson, Yes, or Mike Oldfield has done (or most other Prog-bands.) The only way they'll ever include Rush or Dream Theater as progressive if it sounds like the heavy metal Red-Era Crimson. I've had a discussion about this with a guy who KNOWS what he's talking about. He has 1400 progressive albums. I told him I think Dream Theater is Progressive and he said well only a bit. He said that they have some "proggy passages" (his words) and i said they have most than just "some." but he vehemently argued that Dream Theater was MORE a metal band than a Progressive band. And finally I agreed with him. They DO after all have more-Metal fashioned songs than Progressive songs. These metal songs DO contain "proggy passages" but really they are still more Metal than Progressive. That is why I equate Dream Theater as "Semi-Progressive." They can be when they want to, it's just they don't sometimes. > And as for Another Day, Surounded and The Silent Man not being > progressive...How many -non-progressive' songs have a natural time signature of > 5/4? How about time sigs of 5/8 5/8 5/8 4/8? Or the chord progressions in the Well... there's a few Soundgarden songs I can think of, one which was a mega-hit. Not that I like Soundgarden, I was just amazed when I heard one of their songs in 5/4. But really just because a band uses 5/4 or 4/8 once in a while doesn't mean they're progressive. No where near it. Now if Surrounded was in 17/16 or 13/4, I would say, Yeah it's Semi-Progressive, because STILL I don't see any use of wild insturments, any innovations in harmonic singing, any strange voice effects put on James's voice, any 1 minute bird chirping solos :), or any TRUE change in style within that song. ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 9 Apr 95 17:48 DFT From: email_address_removed.se To: email_address_removed Subject: Pavarotti Message-ID: Hey. I just got an weird idea. How would it be if Pavarotti did a DT-song with the band ! a great play, I must say. Perhaps it would be a bit like: Candlemass goes Sigge Fu:rst. a wonderful miniCD. Sorry you don't get Swedish out there. over and out.. Henrik Gustafsson email_address_removed.se Dream Theater Drottninggatan 62c7 +46 (0)520-155 98 Toni Holgersson S-461 33 Trollha:ttan 070-814 24 38 Just D ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 9 Apr 1995 14:05:36 -0400 From: John B Ashcraft To: email_address_removed Subject: James Labrie Message-ID: A while back I posted a question asking why James colored his hair blonde and everyone said it wasn't blonde. It may not be blonde but from the time his IaW picture was taken and the release of the LiT video James did change his hair color and I still want to know why? I thought that it might be because everyone in the band had dark hair so this would add a little diversity. Does anyone know why???? Trey ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 09 Apr 1995 15:04:45 -0500 (EST) From: Alex Lifeson To: email_address_removed Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 778 Message-ID: Brian J. Wherry wrote, and I quote: >Whoever thought that Wait For Sleep is in *melodic* minor: What made you >think that? There isn't a D# in the entire tune, or a C#, for that >matter. Just to let Brian J. Wherry what I meant by Wait For Sleep being in melodic minor, ascending there is a c# and d#, but if you know ANYTHING about melodic minor, you will know that descending, there is a c natural and d natural. This is also called E Aeolian. That is one of the possibilities of the key of Wait For Sleep. Thank you. Look before you leap - briaN PS - That wasn't So great, Stahl, but it works ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 9 Apr 1995 15:46:42 -0400 From: "David John Baranski" To: email_address_removed Subject: Yes's Talk Message-ID: Marc Respass writes: >Hmmm. Suddenly I'm trying to define progressive but I can't. I have every >Rush album and every Yes album (except Talk - what is that?). Greenday,Marc ----------- Talk, in my opinion, is one of Yes's better CD's. It has many textural styles and the musicianship is up to Yes's high standards. The instrumental on it (even though it's less than two minutes, I think - it's part of another song) kicks. Trevor Rabin sings quite a bit (I think he has a pretty good voice, and it's just a wee bit easier to sing along with his parts than with Jon Anderson's) and does the producing and a lot of the songwriting. _Talk_ is way different from _Union_ in that it's not so uh, dark, I guess is a decent description. It's not anywhere near as progressive as ABWH's disc, but it's more progressive than say _90125_ or _Big Generator_. It's just a really good CD. Sorry about the non-DT stuff, -- +-------------------------------------------------------+ | Six o'clock the siren kicks him from a dream | | Tries to shake it off but it just won't stop | | Can't find the strength but he's got promises to keep | | And wood to chop before he sleeps | | - "6:00", Dream Theater, from _Awake_ | +-------------------------------------------------------+ |David John Baranski | |"One of two known Polish-Koreans on this Earth" | |email_address_removed | +-------------------------------------------------------+ ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 09 Apr 95 14:45:17 EST From: email_address_removed To: email_address_removed Subject: VAI/thx Anthony Jones.... Message-ID: I just wanted to openly thank Anthony Jones on San Antonio for a nice even trade. Sorry Anthony...I can't find your email address...but I did receive the DT CD. thx! Steve Vai's new album? Is there any singing on there like on "Sex & Religion"? On the album "Sex & Religion"...it's got some messed up lyrics.(grin). Poor Steve...all confused. By the way...I have all of Steve Vai's albums (but the new one). Have you heard "Little Green Men" by VAI? trippy fun record...I mean TRIPPY. For those of YOU who really like TRIPPY stuff...you should see the movie "BabySnakes" by FRANK Zappa. Terri Bozzio(sp?) is one of the best Drummers!!WOW! the movie has some great live stuff...plus some claymation. TRIPPY! Sorry not many coments on DT this time. see ya. Todd email_address_removed TELNET:198.69.223.40 if you TElnet then write (me):Dream Theater email TELNET: methub.metrobbs.com ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 9 Apr 1995 13:54:57 -0700 From: email_address_removed (John Hough) To: email_address_removed Subject: Bang Tango. NO DT CONTENT Message-ID: Jammers, I recently heard on the Hardrock mailing list that Bang Tango has a new CD out in Europe? Anyone who can give me any info on this would be highly appreciated!!!! Sorry for the no DT content. Later John Hough, email_address_removed ______________________________________________________________ Feeling the need to argue? Feeling sorta pissed at the world? Just Email a rap name or a TON blast, to the following address: ***FRANK (email_address_removed)*** He'll enlighten you with his witty humor and eloquent statements. YJAF ______________________________________________________________ ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 09 Apr 1995 17:35:11 EDT From: email_address_removed (MISS JAIME K KIMPTON) To: email_address_removed Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 778 Message-ID: >Check the sig >email_address_removed Well, I'm not what you'd call a Lackey FAN, I've only read the first two books of the Last Herald-Mage trilogy, I'm usually too busy reading and rereading Melanie Rawn. DT content: Issue 8 of Metropolis Watch is done and printed, if there's anyone who's interested and still hasn't emailed me. Always looking for contributors , but be warned, the band gets copies, so they'll be reading whatever you write. Jaime the Dragon email_address_removed ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 09 Apr 1995 18:47:24 EDT From: email_address_removed (MISS JAIME K KIMPTON) To: email_address_removed Subject: SCREAMING IN DIGITAL! Message-ID: There was a complaint a while back about people asking about the Ryche mailing list and no one posting an address. I *just* subscribed so here's the address: email_address_removed Jaime the Dragon ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 9 Apr 95 19:06:53 EDT From: "John R. Kotzian" To: email_address_removed Subject: TIM LODGE. Message-ID: I have delt with Tim Lodge and other than being a little slow in sending out the discs I bought from him, he very professional and true to his word. I really was surprised at the Quality of the Majesty and Instrumental Demos I recieved from him. HE had people send referrances of his credibility from all over the country and he kept in touch with me when I had questions. So that is my thoughts on the credibility of Tim Lodge. Take it for what it's worth. Later. -John ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 9 Apr 1995 20:04:00 -0400 (EDT) From: Rycher To: email_address_removed Subject: definitions... Message-ID: I nearly fell to the floor after reading an article posted by William about his definition of prog rock. Through his eyes, a song can only be progressive if the song is "complex." WHAT??? A time sig of 13/8 does not make a song prog. Give prog rock more credit, man! Don't you think that intense emotion and meaningful lyrics play a major role in prog. rock? DT is progressive, not "semi-prog" like you previously stated! Mike Portnoy, himself, has told us that it is not their intent to play complex- it just happens. Their intent is to relay their message, using whatever tools are necessary. Why is DT progressive? Because of their remarkable ability to relay emotion and meaning, musically, to the audience. It's not very musical to play perfect machine like songs all the time. Thats not prog music! Dream Theater's is because they have the musical talent to be able create emotion with almost any style: complex, heavy, soft, simple... Just because you don't think Pull Me Under is written like Metroplois does not mean it's not progressive. Listen to the lyrics! Do you think DT would have gotten their message across in Another Day, Surrounded, or Silent Man if they added in a million meter changes and made them very difficult to play? Dream Theater is progressive because they are musically advanced enough to be able to take advantages of many styles to add the element of emotion to their lyrics. When needed, DT is technical monsters (amazing!!) and other times DT uses simplicity to envoke the right emotion to the songs message! THATS PROGRESSIVE! -Stahl ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 9 Apr 1995 19:52:56 -0500 (CDT) From: A Humble Dream Theater Fanatic To: ytse jam Message-ID: Does anyone have the bootleg cd "Wake Up!"? It's from the awake tour with John Myung's Birthday song on it. I almost bought it but hesitated. If anyone has it can i have the set list and a little commentary about sound quality and other things. Thanks. Ed Polzin WWW: http://www.cen.uiuc.edu/~polzin/ ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 9 Apr 1995 22:00:39 -0400 (EDT) From: Hairball To: email_address_removed Subject: Re: Sustain?! Message-ID: You wanna hear vocal sustain? Steve Perry on "Winds Of March" from the Infinity album. Holds that sucker FOREVER. Go listen to it. ...man, in his prime, he'd hit notes that could floor me. Anyway, just my .02. ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 9 Apr 1995 22:00:46 -0400 From: John B Ashcraft To: email_address_removed Subject: Marillion (non-DT) Message-ID: I was just wanting to know if any of you guys or girls had a copy of the lyrics to all of the songs on the Marillion B-Sides Themselves and if they could e-mail me a copy. I would be very greatful. I also wanted to know if the there was a Marillion mailing list? Sorry for non-DT content Trey ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 9 Apr 1995 20:36:53 PDT From: email_address_removed (Dr. Mosh) To: email_address_removed Subject: Re: Sustain?! Message-ID: On the Eve of Destruction, Hairball said: >You wanna hear vocal sustain? Steve Perry on "Winds Of March" from the >Infinity album. Holds that sucker FOREVER. Go listen to it. > >..man, in his prime, he'd hit notes that could floor me. > >Anyway, just my .02. > How about Still They Ride!!!! -The Doc -- #$%*#$*@ REAL: email_address_removed + VIRTUAL: email_address_removed *@#$*@#$ *$%&%#$* The Dream Theater Archives: ftp.netcom.com: /pub/dr/drkhoe/dt &*@#$*@$ **%^$#$% WWW: "ftp://ftp.netcom.com/pub/dr/drkhoe/www/dthome.html" #$**@#*$ *$*$*$*# Reality Enhancement Software - Engineering Reality *$&#*#@$ ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 10 Apr 1995 0:25:25 -0400 (EDT) From: SGA/POLITICAL SCIENCE '95/MACLAB To: email_address_removed Subject: Thanks Message-ID: I'd like to take a minute and thank everyone who has come out and put in a good word for me here on the JAM. No hard feelings towards Alfredo anyone...the CD's are in the mail..and the situation is fine. Thanks again, Tim Lodge ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 9 Apr 1995 21:52:29 +0800 From: email_address_removed (Ken Bibb) To: ytsejam Subject: apology from Frank Message-ID: ----- Begin Included Message ----- Date: Sun, 9 Apr 1995 20:53:21 -0400 From: Message-Id: Hello, Dream Theater fans. This is a letter of apology which I hope you will all accept. I have recently 'come out', and am seemingly taking out my frustration wrongfully onto you, the only people who have known nothing about my problem about my problem. I hope that all will accpet my apology, and realixe my frustrations ont he world. If I write anymore nasty letters, please take them in stride. I hope my apology is accepted, and I hope that everyone who has posted about me will please write and sent there acceptances. Until then, have a most pleasant day, and remember...we're all in this together. Right, sinkdrain? Frank (email_address_removed) ----- End Included Message ----- ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 9 Apr 1995 23:56:36 +0800 From: email_address_removed (Ken Bibb) To: email_address_removed Subject: Re: Marillion (non-DT) Message-ID: > From: John B Ashcraft > > I was just wanting to know if any of you guys or girls had a copy of the > lyrics to all of the songs on the Marillion B-Sides Themselves and if they > could e-mail me a copy. I would be very greatful. You can retrieve them from the marillion archives by sending: get freaks bsides to email_address_removed with a subject of "asdf". > I also wanted to know if the there was a Marillion mailing list? To subscribe, send: subscribe freaks John B Ashcraft to email_address_removed with a subject of "asdf". -- Ken Bibb "Upon a wave of summer email_address_removed A hilltop paved with gold email_address_removed We shut our eyes and make the promises we hold" David Sylvian--"Wave" ------------------------------ End of YTSEJAM Digest 779 *************************