YTSEJAM Digest 772 Today's Topics: 1) Guitar World Interview by email_address_removed.ca (LAU JONATHAN) 2) DT keyboards and whatnot by David M Thomas 3) Pronunciation by Joseph Kruger 4) subscribe by "AARON PERKINS" 5) Re: yeeham! by Lazarus - aka Simon Smith 6) Faith No More?? by email_address_removed (Hank Marquardt) 7) Re: YTSEJAM digest 771 by email_address_removed 8) Update on Awake TAB book by Brandon Vaughn 9) Metropolis transcription by Dario M Zagar 10) driving problems by "Derek D. Sussner" 11) Re: YTSEJAM digest 771 by email_address_removed (Siegfried Hanisch) 12) Re: voc-melody by HEADSTRONG 13) Type O Negative by Rob Weychert 14) Re: Faith No More?? by Rob Weychert 15) Napalm Death by Rob Weychert 16) Re: Faith No More by email_address_removed 17) Re: Pronunciation by email_address_removed (Zack Gemmill) 18) Re: Lords of sound by email_address_removed (Zack Gemmill) 19) anybody trade with these guys? by Pat Daugherty 20) Re: YTSEJAM digest 771, several things. by Michael Burstin 21) DT content! by email_address_removed (MISS JAIME K KIMPTON) 22) Re: ytsecon by email_address_removed (Zack Gemmill) 23) Re: Nitpicky, anal, DT comments by jbako01 24) Re: song simil, etc by email_address_removed (Zack Gemmill) 25) ACOS by John B Ashcraft 26) Flames directed to me. by email_address_removed (John Hough) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Tue, 4 Apr 1995 09:24:48 -0400 (EDT) From: email_address_removed.ca (LAU JONATHAN) To: email_address_removed Subject: Guitar World Interview Message-ID: Does anybody have the Guitar World magazine interview with John Petrucci and John Myung. I think that it's the November 1994 issue. The front cover has a picture of "Prince" on it. Unfortunately for me, some idiot ripped some pages out of the only copy at my local public library. I was pissed! Well, if someone has a transcribed copy of it somewhere then PLEASE email me a copy. I would really appreciate it. Jon. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 4 Apr 1995 09:57:09 -0400 (EDT) From: David M Thomas To: email_address_removed Subject: DT keyboards and whatnot Message-ID: Hi all! There has been enough talk about musicians on the list and jammers interested in keyboard parts to get me off my lazy butt and say that I'm a 17 year old keyboardist who was recently in a DT/Rush cover band,and anybody interested in keyboard transcriptions,Kevin Moore/Derek discussions,or for that matter anything concerning the music of DT is more than welcome to email me. Ta- David ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 4 Apr 1995 10:01:32 -0400 (EDT) From: Joseph Kruger To: email_address_removed Subject: Pronunciation Message-ID: Can someone enlighten me on how to pronouce Ytsejam? Thanks. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 4 Apr 1995 09:51:56 CDT From: "AARON PERKINS" To: email_address_removed Subject: subscribe Message-ID: whoa ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 4 Apr 1995 17:25:23 +0100 (BST) From: Lazarus - aka Simon Smith To: email_address_removed Subject: Re: yeeham! Message-ID: Hi, all! I started reading 'Jam about a two months ago and finally got round to contributing.... (God only knows, it took me long enough! =:} ) > email_address_removed wrote: > > Also, many guitarists have stated how they can play like Petrucci, how > many keyboard players out there can play like Moore did? Just wondering > because his style was unique, not something you learn in those elementary > school piano lessons. > I've been trying to play like Kevin for several years now (some hope...) and I _still_ can't get the start of Wait For Sleep right! Anybody else managed it? This is my first post to Ytsejam so I'll keep it short. Are there any more keyboardists out there? There seems to be a lot of guitar discussion here, but little keyboard stuff (not that I'm putting guitarists down :) ) In particular, does anyone know if the full transcriptions of the keyboard parts will be in the Awake book? Is it going to be everything, or will it just be tab and melody? I've got most of Space-Dye Vest figured out, but there's a couple of chords that I can't quite figure. Any help much appreciated.... Secondly, does anyone know the reason why DT cancelled the UK tour apart from London? I was all set to go to Glasgow and they pulled out! A real shame as I was looking forward to seeing how Derek fitted in. I still haven't heard any of his DT stuff, so I don't know how he compares to Kevin. More (no pun intended :) to the point, does anyone know if/when they're coming back to the UK? I was considering coming across to the Ytsecon, but I just can't afford the airfare. Enjoy yourselves, guys. I'll be sitting in sunny (?) Scotland feeling jealous. Before then, PANIC! Our bands got their first gig on Sunday with the current line-up and we're covering QR's Someone Else? with just piano and vocals. Wish me luck!! Lazarus ______________________________________ \ \_______ Lazarus - \ How come you don't understand me? ________________ \__________ And how come I don't understand you? \_ \___________ Thirty years says we're in this together \___ \___________________ So open your eyes.... \ Keys, backing vox \______________ DT - Scarred \ & crap jokes for Ex Machina. \_________________\ Ex Machina WWW Page at: http:/iamac.st-and.ac.uk/ExMachina/ ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 04 Apr 1995 10:36:57 -0500 From: email_address_removed (Hank Marquardt) To: email_address_removed Subject: Faith No More?? Message-ID: >Date: Mon, 3 Apr 1995 20:43:50 -0600 (MDT) >From: SPUDS >To: email_address_removed >Subject: Faith No More?? >Message-ID: > > > 6) I'll bet Frank is a big Nelson fan. > Now before we start a Nelson bashing thread (though Frank bashing would be OK ), please file thier guitarist (Brett Garsed) under INCREDIBLE talent who wants to eat and pay his bills. If you haven't heard of him, look for an album called "Quid Pro Quo" with T.J. Helmrich (worthy in his own right) on Legato records (MVarney's fusion label). BG also appears on a couple of compilation CDs, also published by Legato. Hank ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 04 Apr 1995 13:13:41 -0500 (EST) From: email_address_removed To: email_address_removed Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 771 Message-ID: Hello everyone, it's Babs. This note is to Bernd. I feel so bad that your all the way over in Germany (I also feel bad for all the European, and Asian ytsejammers). I don't want to exclude anyone. How 'bout the next time I speak to their management if I ask them if they have a birthday club or perhaps I can arrange it for when they fly Derek and James in they do a little lap over you way and grab you - after all it is your birthday. Just a little light stuff for you all, this is not that serious of a note. I'm sure that I will get yelled at by the guy who reemed out everyone for commenting on the most trivial things because we like to see our names in print or something. HAVE A NICE DAY :) -BABS PS - Whatever happened to that poor guy that us girls yelled at because he addressed his post to his fellow brothers of the ytsejam? I hope that we (the women) didn't scare him away. Anybody know what happened to him? ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 04 Apr 95 12:38:30 CST From: Brandon Vaughn To: email_address_removed Subject: Update on Awake TAB book Message-ID: Since I opened my big mouth saying that the Awake TAB book should be ready by now, I thought I'd better give you an update. Warner Bros. have it on their computer but still don't have it in stock. They are guessing two to three more weeks. So hopefully by the end of April, it should be out. Sorry for the slightly _inaccurate_ info. Brandon Vaughn email_address_removed ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 4 Apr 1995 13:56:39 -0400 (EDT) From: Dario M Zagar To: email_address_removed Subject: Metropolis transcription Message-ID: About the opening (and other) F# chords in the transcription of Metropolis in the I&W book being D/F#, I don't think that's right. I used to play it as B/F# (and I'm still not sure the book is right). Most of the stuff in the book is dead on (at least in notation--some of the tab and the lyrics are wrong), especially in Metropolis, so I'm sticking with the book's F#. Just my little poorly worded opinion. Dario P.S. All the good stuff about Coroner is right. Try No More Color, Mental Vortex, or my favorite, Grin, and prepare to be impressed! And just as an aside, for any still not in the know, you all should pick up King Crimson's VROOOM ep (the full album Thrak comes out the end of this month). These guys are truly the shit! ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 4 Apr 1995 12:56:52 -0500 (CDT) From: "Derek D. Sussner" To: email_address_removed Subject: driving problems Message-ID: If you think driving to Pantera is a challenge (and an enjoyable one at that - especially in a crappy little Escort), then try driving to Fight! Any word on Halford and the boys? D- ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 04 Apr 95 19:57:30 EDT From: email_address_removed (Siegfried Hanisch) To: email_address_removed Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 771 Message-ID: >For those of you who like the energy of Pantera and the musicianship of >DT, check out a band called Coroner! I fully agree. Seen them live a few times. Unfortunately they have split a few months ago. They were from Switzerland (Europe). >Here are the great albums from Coroner: >No More Color, Mental Vortex, and Grin!! Don't forget "R.I.P." and "Punishment for Decadence" Greetings # They shoot without shame Siegfried Hanisch # In the name of a piece of dirt =====================================# For a change of accent email_address_removed # Or the colour of your shirt email_address_removed (ScreenSaver support) # Better the pride that resides =====================================# In a citizen of the world PGP public key available # Than the pride that divides Team OS/2 # When a colourful rag is unfurled RUSH ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 04 Apr 1995 14:39:10 -0400 (EDT) From: HEADSTRONG To: email_address_removed Subject: Re: voc-melody Message-ID: how do I unsubscribe to the list? ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 4 Apr 1995 15:25:40 -0400 (EDT) From: Rob Weychert To: email_address_removed Cc: Multiple recipients of list Subject: Type O Negative Message-ID: >P.S. To those who don't like Type O Negative, don't worry, they probably won't do more than 30 to 45 minutes. Wow, that sucks. With the length of their songs, that would only allow for about 4 songs!! --ROb ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 4 Apr 1995 15:55:09 -0400 (EDT) From: Rob Weychert To: email_address_removed Cc: Multiple recipients of list Subject: Re: Faith No More?? Message-ID: 1) Well, first of all, I did THINK about posting about FNM's new album (King for a Day...Fool for a Lifetime), but really have been too busy. I too got it last Tuesday (today was the new KMFDM!) and have been enjoying it since then on quite a regular basis. At first, I was a little let down from Angel Dust, but that is passing as each time I listen to this new disc, I like it more! One thing that continues to bother me is the lack of keyboards. They really cut back on the keyboard attention this time around and placed more emphasis on the guitar. Nothing wrong with cranking up the guitar a bit, but they don't even have a guitarist right now!! Trey (Scummy) only played for the album, and is not part of the band, nor will he be touring with them. Anyway, personal favorites of mine include: King for a Day (reminded me of Angel Dust :), Cuckoo for Caca, and The Gentle Art of Making Enemies (vocals are insane! :). Overall, an excellent album, and if you hurry, you'll get a sticker with the CD!! (Does anyone know if the tape comes with a sticker too?) 2) I was elated at your mention of FNM and saddened at your knock of Peter Steele from Type O Negative. I am a humongous fan of Type O Negative and I happen to think his voice is REALLY cool. Have you listened to the whole album? And what is the song that is 'ALWAYS' on the radio (I never listen to the radio)? I know you've got your opinion (not a very knowledgeable one if you've only heard one song...), but I've got mine too and just thought I'd stand up for a terrific band. 3) I also remember Mike Bahr mentioning ska and his definition (sorry) was absolutely incorrect. As I recall, he defined ska as bands such as Green Day who can't really play but just play shit as fast as possible, etc. Ska, as I've come to understand it, is the combination of styles such as metal, punk, hardcore, reggae and jazz. There's usually lots of horns and stuff. The only ska bands I'm into right now are both phenominal: Fishbone and The Mighty Mighty Bosstones. Check them out if you should have the occasion; they're both great! If anyone is familiar with any other ska-related bands, please E-mail me. Sorry for the non-DT content, blah blah blah... ;) --ROb ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 4 Apr 1995 08:56:16 -0400 (EDT) From: Rob Weychert To: email_address_removed Subject: Napalm Death Message-ID: To the person who was wondering about James' Napalm Death t-shirt in the PMU video: Barney (Napalm Death's vocalist) is a big Dream Theater fan (remember, he 'sang' Metallica's Damage Inc. with DT at the covers gig in London) and when he had the occasion to meet them, he gave them t-shirts. Mike P is the only one to have seen the band play last I heard, but that was almost two years ago. Anyway, the PMU video was shot on short notice, and the Napalm Death shirt just happened to be what James was wearing. They're actually a very good band, if you're into that sort of super-heavy, grindcore type music. --ROb P.S.--If anyone can tell me why I've been having a bitch of a time sending stuff to this list, I'd love to hear from you. When I try to send stuff to email_address_removed, it only gets through less than half the time; in fact, if you're reading this, it was one of the lucky times... ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 4 Apr 1995 16:29:59 -0400 From: email_address_removed To: email_address_removed Subject: Re: Faith No More Message-ID: > 1) I am TRULY shocked and disgusted that nobody has even THOUGHT about >mentioning Faith No More's new CD _King For A Day, Fool For a Lifetime_. I have the new disk and i like it a great deal...I do think in some respects it is thier lightest album yet ( although some of it is really heavy). The band has definitely changed a lot from "The Real Thing" and since Patton joined the band I've seen more of a Mr. Bungle influence in the music. IMO the keyboards are mixed little to low on some of the heavier songs. I like the new guitarist though. JEFF email_address_removed ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 4 Apr 95 15:41:01 PDT From: email_address_removed (Zack Gemmill) To: email_address_removed Subject: Re: Pronunciation Message-ID: > From: Joseph Kruger > > Can someone enlighten me on how to pronouce Ytsejam? > > Thanks. "Yet-say jam!" (James on DoE) or I settle for "yet-see jam" myself. Perhaps we should put this in the FAQ since this has come up before? Zach ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 4 Apr 95 15:46:46 PDT From: email_address_removed (Zack Gemmill) To: email_address_removed Subject: Re: Lords of sound Message-ID: > From: Jarrod Kamsey-Lewis > > I was just looking through (and downloading) the images on one of the > many web pages(it's a good one BTW), and noticed the cover for a double > cd named "Lords of Sound." What is this cd? Judging by the songs on the > cd, it sounds like something I would like to have. Can anyone shed some > light on this for me? > > As for driving with DT, I'm from CA, so speed limits are not too > much of a problem. > > Jarrod Ramsey-Lewis > University of Portland LOS is an excellent boot. Parts of it are a little shy of the quality of DoE, but I like LOS better. The drum solo at the end of TLF has a cool intro to Status Seeker. And the solo itself makes the DoE solo sound like Romper Room in comparison. Plus it has the "Puppies on Acid" (a.k.a. The Mirror intro) intro to Take The Time. Zach ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 4 Apr 1995 19:01:59 -0400 (EDT) From: Pat Daugherty To: Dream Theater Subject: anybody trade with these guys? Message-ID: Has anybody had any successful trades with: Jeremy Haynes email_address_removed or Chris Anderson email_address_removed? It's been aobut 2 months since I sent tapes to them and I have received nada. Also I have been inquiring about the status via email for over 3 weeks and also have received no replies. What do people consider way 2 long to get owed tapes? As you may understand I am not a happy camper. Pat Daugherty email_address_removed "Every breath leaves me one less to my last" --Dream Theater "That is not an option, Mr. Mulder" --X-Files ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 4 Apr 1995 19:23:09 -0400 (EDT) From: Michael Burstin To: email_address_removed Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 771, several things. Message-ID: A few quick things from yesterday's digest: > From: Hairball > Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 770 > > 1) L'Amore's, Brooklyn. > > Audio was okay. Picture quality was decent, but, it was a still > camera, shooting from the right side of the stage, across to the left. > You could see everyone. Set seemed about average. This video is a club shot (ie, tripod) from 1/8/93. The copy that I have is incredible quality audio and video. They also did an extra track that I have not heard on any other boots. It almost sounded like the theme from Goodfellas. > 2) Toronto > > Picture quality was PHENOMENAL. The camera work was actually half > decent! Lots of Zooms/Pans, but, the guy stayed on top of shit. Sound > quality? A bit thin, probably because he was shooting down at the stage, > and was a considerable distance back. Despite this, they must've been > LOUDER THAN HELL, because the sound distorted from time to time. > This is an aud show. Quality is very good. Date is 7/20/93. > 3) Ack, I forget this one...somewhere in NYC. > > From what I remember, it looks like this is a video shot during > the DoE show - though, I'm not sure. See if this helps. > There are 2 videos from this show floating around. It is the DoE show. If I remember correctly, the one w/o the beginning of the show is the aud video. There is another one that DT shot as some promotional video called "Industry Showcase: An Evening With Dream Theater" and is shot from 2 different cameras, and has someone who IMO, is EXTREMLY annoying interviewing several people. I also believe Jens is somewhere on this video??? > ------------------------------ > > From: email_address_removed (MISS JAIME K KIMPTON) > Subject: absolutely NO DT content WHATSOEVER!!! > > Just thought I'd mention that I picked up a CD of Queensryche's show at the > Astoria Theatre in London 10/20/94. The [snip] > "sort-of-mediocre" day. And this is indeed authorized, unlike the DT > bootleg CDs; Geoff was asking the audience to shout nice things because it > was being taped and they would have to live with it for the rest > of their lives. > Close... This is a boot... QR did, in fact tape this show, but this CD is not from their tape. The audio sounds suspiciously like the audio off of the video of this show... > ------------------------------ > > From: Jarrod Kamsey-Lewis > Subject: Lords of sound > > I was just looking through (and downloading) the images on one of the > many web pages(it's a good one BTW), and noticed the cover for a double > cd named "Lords of Sound." What is this cd? Judging by the songs on the > cd, it sounds like something I would like to have. Can anyone shed some > light on this for me? > This is a boot from the Milwaukee Summerfest show. Source of the show is an FM broadcast, so quality is very good. -- +----------------------------------------+----------------+---------+ | And I'll smile and learn to pretend | Dream Theater | Michael | | And I'll never be open again | Space Dye Vest | Burstin | | And I'll have no more dreams to defend |-----Awake------+---------+ | And I'll never be open again | Let's Go Pens | +----------------------------------------+--------------------------+ For info about Dream Theater, finger email_address_removed http://cs.brandeis.edu/~mikeb/home.html ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 04 Apr 1995 15:30:06 EDT From: email_address_removed (MISS JAIME K KIMPTON) To: email_address_removed Subject: DT content! Message-ID: Since someone wanted to know... this is back from 7/93 James: He looked pretty tired, but he hung around for a few minutes and answered lamebrain questions like "Is your hair naturally curly?" He wasn't feeling particularly talkative, though - from what I'm told, that's true to form when he's in that kind of a mood.. John P.: He was so cool - very personable, very chatty guy. I still think he's lying when he says he's 5'11", he ain't that much bigger than I am! :) Fielded lots of dumb questions with grace and a few intelligent questions with relief. John M.: Didn't say very much , spent most of the time talking to one guy that was apparently in a band he knew. But later he came back and let those of us that were left in the gate - which the guard wouldn't do. Kudos are extended from everyone who was there then! :) Kevin: That man is such a trip. He had us all in hysterics with his wisecracks. I got him to actually *smile* for only the second time that night - you wouldn't think he knew how sometimes. Mike: >The world's biggest DT fan< Absolutely!!! Enthusiasm must be his middle name, he was just thrilled to death that we were diehard fans. Most bands will sign tickets and GO, but he stuck around for a good half hour with us. Probably one of the last times anyone saw him clean shaven - a month later in the LiT video he had a beard. :) "I believe that situations all depend on circumstance..." Savatage "Chance" Jaime the Dragon ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 4 Apr 95 18:22:02 PDT From: email_address_removed (Zack Gemmill) To: email_address_removed Subject: Re: ytsecon Message-ID: > From: email_address_removed > <> Babs: First, has there been any interest of doing a "convention" out west somewhere? Second (forgive me if I missed this before), what is going to be the cost/`jammer to reserve the space for this? Third (for anyone in general), what's cheaper for cross-country travel: flying or Amtrack? > PS - Whatever happened to that poor guy that we girls yelled at because he > addressed his post to his fellow brothers of the ytsejam? I hope that > we (the women) didn't scare him away. Anybody know what happened to him? He's auditioning for the lead part in the sequel to "A Clockwork Orange" :>\> Zach ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 5 Apr 1995 00:52:26 -0400 (EDT) From: jbako01 To: email_address_removed Subject: Re: Nitpicky, anal, DT comments Message-ID: On Sun, 2 Apr 1995, Christopher Caminiti wrote: > > 3. In the "Pull Me Under" video, what's the deal with James' Napalm > Death shirt (which he again mentions in the Awake pull-out as 'the > infamous shirt')? Is it a joke? I've heard some pretty disturbing ^^^^^^^^^^ > things about that band, and I was just wondering. . . :( > Interesting choice of words there, why? Am I the only Napalm Death/DT fan around here??? I know the range between the two is a bit broad. James Bako email_address_removed Polytechnic University Brooklyn, New York ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 4 Apr 95 18:47:17 PDT From: email_address_removed (Zack Gemmill) To: email_address_removed Subject: Re: song simil, etc Message-ID: > From: Michael Van Opstall > > > I would like to know more personally about the members of DT from those > of you who have met them. Here's what I know (or guess) about each: > > J. Petrucci - definitely the leading musical and lyricl force behind the > band. Seems somewhat quiet (not very). No matter what the credits say, I > suspect he's behind most of it. DT could not survive without him, > although I feel the rest of the members could be replaced (not all at > once though). Hmm, I dunno... how could they find a vocalist to replace James? Mike seems the next irreplaceable (maybye the drummer from Cynic?). Myung, well, since you can't hear him half the time, perhaps... but after seeing him play up close, I realize that he contributes a *hell of a lot* more to the songs than I thought before. A friend of mine (who has never met the band) thinks, as you do, that Petrucci is the driving force behind the band. (If the aforementioned persons happen to read this, please take no offense !>)> > J. Myung - quiet, withdrawn, yet possibly one of the most technically > proficient members of DT. Brilliant lyricist, but not proficient. Most > spiritual and religious member. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ What do you mean by this? > M. Portnoy - enthusiastic, childlike, excited member. Worlds biggest DT > fan. Almost like he's not a member of the band but just follows them > around. Very emotional. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ But in a good way! When I saw them in SFO, he said he had spent almost the whole week on the Fates' bus because those guys were partying fools. Definite party animal. Smokes Marlboro Lights, ~ a pack and a half a day. Drinks Yeagermeister. > J. La Brie - don't really know. Now he's becoming a spokesman for the > band. I too wonder about that infamous Napalm Death T-shirt. Seems a little offstandish at first, but I think he's just playing the part as frontman for the band with seriousness. > D. Sherinan - don't know anything so lets go back to... Really cool [and the gang] dude. He seemed very enthusiastic and just liked to chill and talk with the fans for quite a while. Back then, he was really hoping that DT would make him a permanent member, and he was glad that we supported this. UNT, Zach ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 4 Apr 1995 23:22:13 -0400 From: John B Ashcraft To: email_address_removed Subject: ACOS Message-ID: Has anyone one else noticed that one small part of ACOS sounds exactly like part of Steve Morse's "Tumeni motes". I am not sure where because I don't have it on cd and it's such a long song. It is definately in the last half. Like that helps but check it out anyway. doeas Does anyone agree? Trey ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 4 Apr 1995 20:44:28 -0700 From: email_address_removed (John Hough) To: email_address_removed Subject: Flames directed to me. Message-ID: Holy shit, I really started something with a simple fuckin opinion! I just read 5 jams in the past hour cause I've been gone all weekend at a conference in LA. So I am responding in order of the responses on the jam, On Mar ?? James Bako wrote in response to my message: *My message again just for you Frank!* >> Just got the new SID mailing and it said *gulp* TYPE O NEGATIVE is >> opening for QR on the North American tour? That really sucks. IMHO!!! > >Why does it suck?? Just because QR is not touring with some other similar >prog-metal band, such as hmmmm..... Dream Theater?? Give QR a break, >isn't this the same band that brought Suicidal Tendencies with them on >their last US tour? Give them some credit for open-mindedness. I do give them credit for open-mindedness, they can take whoever they want on tour with them and I'd still go. NOTICE I put IMHO in my post, am I not allowed to voice my opinion that I think personally that TON sucks? CALM DOWN PAL! >This is the same kind of bullshit attitude Bullshit attitude? Just because I don't like your 2nd favorite band I have a attitude? I'm sure there are ALOT of people who don't like KISS on this list but because they are my favorite band doesn't mean I'm going to tell someone they have a bullshit attitude! I think you should look in the mirror before you start ripping people because they don't like TON. GROW UP! >Now if Type O Negative could only open for Dream Theater :) Oh the Horror. (Had to throw that in to see if you grew up after reading this! :) ) >James Bako >email_address_removed Someone else also said for me to remember that not everone hates what I hate. I know that, but that's why I put IMHO afterwards. It's my opinion. email_address_removed (Frank) also wrote a bunch of bs I won't bother repeating. GROW UP FUCK! Do you think anyone else gives a fuck what you think either. If you don't like my opinion GOOD! This is a free fuckin country. ****above written after response towards my original post, following written after Frank bashed others on the jam.**** FRANK CALM DOWN PSYCHO BOY!!!! IT'S JUST AN OPINION!!!!! I bet you think you are cool to threaten someone over a computer list, shakin' man I am fuckin' shakin'! OK BTW thanks to Jeff and a few others who supported my right to my own opinion. Please excuse my furious tone in the Frank responses but I was quite floored that someone could be so moronic. One more thing Frank, stay in school dude. Sorry for the length and for the time it took to respond to this, but I felt I should try to respond in my own behalf on something I started. *Wheeeeeeesh*, Whoa, large flame just past me by. I M H O!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Live it, love it, learn it. ^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^ John Hough email_address_removed "Jesus knows my story, he knows the position that I'm in A hooker knows the feeling to get fucked the way I've been." Skid Row - "Subhuman Race" from same CD. ^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^ ------------------------------ End of YTSEJAM Digest 772 *************************