YTSEJAM Digest 770 Today's Topics: 1) UMD, COW, DT! by Steve Borzilleri 2) Q-Zar by email_address_removed 3) Barking by Steve Borzilleri 4) Re: my opinion by email_address_removed 5) QR, TON by "John R. Kotzian" 6) Bombay Vindaloo and the speed limit by email_address_removed (Bracken Odiorne) 7) YTSEJAM digest 769 by email_address_removed (Ryan Inverso) 8) Re: Q-Zar by email_address_removed (Scott McCammon) 9) Re: my opinion by email_address_removed 10) yeehaw! by Michael Van Opstall 11) Re: My opinion by email_address_removed (Bracken Odiorne) 12) Nitpicky, anal, DT comments by Christopher Caminiti 13) Re: YTSEJAM digest 767 by John B Ashcraft 14) frank by email_address_removed.de (Bernd Basmer) 15) by "James A Walsh" 16) Web Page by Slick Doggy Dawg 17) Dream Theater FAQ. Deliberate mistake??? by Stuart Booth 18) DT, non-DT .... Lots of questions by David Barlow 19) "Hi!" from Mike! by Matthias Murra 20) voc-melody by email_address_removed.de (Bernd Basmer) 21) Little to No DT Content by Hairball 22) I Mother Earth by email_address_removed 23) DT TAb book by William Kriski 24) ytsejam 767 by Space-Dye Vest 25) oops by Michael Van Opstall 26) ytsecon by zebrowski steven ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Sun, 2 Apr 1995 08:08:38 -0700 (PDT) From: Steve Borzilleri To: email_address_removed Subject: UMD, COW, DT! Message-ID: By the way, (1) are there any Ytsejammers out there that are currently at wam.umd.edu? If so, (2) are any of you musicians? (3) If you're lurking around and are remotely interested in jamming with fellow Dream Theater zealots, e-mail me at email_address_removed. Except for milkman, bdon, sdobay, and berkoski, that is, since I've already contacted those cool people! :) Did the core group enjoy the exploding cow? Please no open flames on the Ytsejams, folks. Direct all flamage to my e-mail address! 'Cause I'll Fork it right back at you! Any word on a DT-cover band at Ytsecon, comprised entirely of talented Ytsejammers? Any word on Mike Portnoy hooking his entire kit up to bungee cords and having it dive out over the audience and bounce around in the air for his solo? Eh? Any word on words? I tell ya, if I was gonna be around in Maryland for the Ytsecon, I'd volunteer for the cover band. Long Island is a mere 4-hour drive from Maryland. *sigh* Are there any Ytsejammers that have ever caught one of Petrucci's picks? Anyone ever caught one of Portnoy's sticks? Perhaps one of his frisbee-flying drumheads? Talk to you later, fellow Dream Thespians! Bafu Vai ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 2 Apr 1995 13:27:58 -0400 From: email_address_removed To: email_address_removed Subject: Q-Zar Message-ID: Dear jammers, Have any of you guys played Q-Zar before? Well, I think it would be cool if Metropolis Part I was playing in the background while everyone shoots each other. What do you guys think? Oh, I just thought of another idea... How about if everyone will play Q-Zar after the LI convention? Q-Zar closes at 1 AM, and maybe DT themselves would want to play with us! What do you think? Or maybe I should get ready for flames? Yours, Jeff =) <<<==<==<==<==<==<==<==<==<==<<<>>>==>==>==>==>==>==>==>==>==>>> JEFF CHEW IS email_address_removed "You are sunlight and I, moon ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ joined by the gods of fortune "The fool on the hill midnight and high noon sees the sun going down sharing the sky and the eyes in his head We have been blessed, see the world spinning 'round" you and I" - Lennon/McCartney - Lea Salonga (Kim) <<<==<==<==<==<==<==<==<==<==<<<<\-/-\-/-\-/>>>>==>==>==>==>==>==>==>==>==>>> ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 2 Apr 1995 10:32:51 -0700 (PDT) From: Steve Borzilleri To: email_address_removed Subject: Barking Message-ID: This goes out to email_address_removed (Frank) and email_address_removed (Chrisf) : knock it off. This goes out exclusively to email_address_removed: take a hike. We really don't need you on the Ytsejams if you have absolutely nothing to contribute but silly arguments and assinine remarks. Bafu Vai ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 2 Apr 1995 13:59:42 -0400 From: email_address_removed To: email_address_removed Subject: Re: my opinion Message-ID: our buddy Frank wrote: <<>> oooo, college! I'm impressed. Uh, that must mean you're still learning and haven't learned everything yet, right? Oh, Frank, BTW, college-goers don't have the market cornered on whatever you're so proud of. So, if someone didn't go to college it doesn't really mean anything, ya see? <<>> oooooo, good grammar, too! Are you sure you're in college? Stimp ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 2 Apr 95 14:31:02 EDT From: "John R. Kotzian" To: email_address_removed Subject: QR, TON Message-ID: FRANK! CHRIS! NOW SETTLE DOWN BOYS!! -Mom ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 2 Apr 1995 12:59:05 -0600 (MDT) From: email_address_removed (Bracken Odiorne) To: email_address_removed Subject: Bombay Vindaloo and the speed limit Message-ID: G'day Jammers, I've often read the letters submitted to the ytsejam and wondered if they were really real. But then I had an experience that changed my mind. I'm a graduate student at a university in northern Colorado and I was just minding my own business driving through town when suddenly Bombay Vindaloo started playing in my car (my own fault since I was listening to LATM anyway). Before I knew it I was headed down the road (through a school zone) at a leisurely 45mph (my only reprieve is that it was the college I was driving past, no little children, and it was also a Sunday). I'm going to have to record a special DT driving tape with only the stuff like Space-Dye Vest, etc... for driving. (This is part of the reason why my wife doesn't let me drive often. However, she speeds to Testament.) Tchus, Bracken (The Braxinator: "I'll be Brax!") ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 2 Apr 95 16:27:14 EDT From: email_address_removed (Ryan Inverso) To: email_address_removed Subject: YTSEJAM digest 769 Message-ID: We all know that TON is opening for QR. It's not gonna change. So stop you're damn bitching and get on with you're lives. DT will still tour. Stratocaster ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 2 Apr 1995 15:46:14 -0500 (EST) From: email_address_removed (Scott McCammon) To: email_address_removed Subject: Re: Q-Zar Message-ID: > Have any of you guys played Q-Zar before? Well, I think it would be cool if > Metropolis Part I was playing in the background while everyone shoots each > other. What do you guys think? Uhh, sounds like fun...(especially the Metropolis part) However, please enlighten a sheltered person such as myself and maybe others. What the heck is "Q-Zar"?! Forgive me if I'm the only one on this list who doesn't get out much. 8-) -A long time lurker, Scott ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 2 Apr 1995 18:00:20 -0400 From: email_address_removed To: email_address_removed Subject: Re: my opinion Message-ID: >Um, first of all you might notice the address...the .edu which means I'm in >college. Yes, that place where you probably never went. >>he's entitled to his own opinion >>I personally think TON is a poor choice of an opener. >Well, I personally think you're an asshole. >So, what concerts are you going to? I'd like to get together with a cool >hunchbacked computer geek like you. I figured there would be dorks like >you on this computer email shit. Go out sometimes and get a life. Obviously, you need to go out and get a life if you have nothing better to do than sit and send stuff like this to a newsgroup. JEFF ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 2 Apr 1995 21:56:09 -0400 (EDT) From: Michael Van Opstall To: email_address_removed Subject: yeehaw! Message-ID: Hey kids, I'm back. Seems I'm always picking up something new...just recently got LiT video (can't wait the week or so for Subconscious). I much enjoyed it, but Petrucci makes me angry by making it look so easy. Anyway, one question... is Moon Bubbles just the 3-4 minute funky thing at the end of To Live Forever, or does it include the soloing Petrucci does before it (the part with the volume pedal stuff)? That is some of the absolute best soloing I have ever heard and is obviously not improvised, so I just wondered if it was Moon Bubbles or just random stuff. Concerning the upcoming EP, I'd love to see Moon Bubbles or Barfbag (one of the best instrumentals I've heard, and it was written on an airplane sans instruments) on it, but it probably won't happen. I've been enjoying the arguing and heated discussion around here. Its a good laugh. Speaking of laughs, its never too late to subscribe to the Don Digest...send me mail for info...:@>. Also, many guitarists have stated how they can play like Petrucci, how many keyboard players out there can play like Moore did? Just wondering because his style was unique, not something you learn in those elementary school piano lessons. M.A. VanOpstall email_address_removed ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 2 Apr 1995 20:24:45 -0600 (MDT) From: email_address_removed (Bracken Odiorne) To: email_address_removed Subject: Re: My opinion Message-ID: Hey Frank, Whoa! Relax a little bit. Say your mantra or something. Not everybody is into the same music as yourself. If someone (like myself) doesn't dig TON you don't need to have a conniption. We're just expressing an OPINION like the one that suggested that those of us who enjoy this "e-mail shit" are hunchbacked lazy asses. Incidentally, the difference between those two statements is that saying TON is a bad opener is an opinion wholly based upon subjective factors such as musical taste, while saying that we're all hunchbacked (or some other quatsch such as that) is an empirical claim that is disproven by a singular instance to the contrary. Stay in college Frank. It will help your communication skills immeasurably. Peace, Sensei Bracken Odiorne, Nidan "The angry man will defeat himself in battle as well as in life." -Samurai Maxim- ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 2 Apr 1995 22:55:46 -0400 (EDT) From: Christopher Caminiti To: Dream Theater Subject: Nitpicky, anal, DT comments Message-ID: Hello all! First, a thank you to ALL of you who inquired about the Petrucci clinic tape. All the tapes are in the mail as of Monday morning. Second, to all of you who have no idea what I'm talking about - THANK GOD!!!!!!!! If I never dupe another tape in my life it'll be too soon :) Now the real reason(s) I wrote: 1. If any guitar players have the tab for "Metropolis" (off the recently released I&W book), I'm pretty sure (almost 100%) that the very first "F#" chord that kicks off the song should be "D/F#", as well as all the ensuing F# chords in the intro. That would make it ---4--- instead of ---4--- ---5--- ---4--- ---2--- ---2--- 2. (I'm just gettin' started). . . For anyone who has seen the Live in Tokyo video, I could sware that the volume swells that Petrucci does in the beginning of his solo are the same melody as some song from the Beatle's White Album. I can't remember which one, unfortunately. Am I right? Or am I just nuts? Any imput would be helpful. 3. In the "Pull Me Under" video, what's the deal with James' Napalm Death shirt (which he again mentions in the Awake pull-out as 'the infamous shirt')? Is it a joke? I've heard some pretty disturbing things about that band, and I was just wondering. . . :( 4. Finally, are the Christian themes that seem to be a recurring theme on DT's lyrics, AND this list, genuine? I'm a huge King's X fan (note the sig :) ) and I'm just curious about DT's background, spiritally speaking. Once again, any imput would be helpful. Thanks for your patience! Take care. P.S. I go away for a weekend, and some dude named Frank goes ballistic on everybody on the list? Did I miss something???!!!??? |\ Chris | \ |\ \ Faith | \ \ Hope ## \ | Love ### \| ## | | ## ### ## ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 2 Apr 1995 22:58:52 -0400 From: John B Ashcraft To: email_address_removed Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 767 Message-ID: >>>>>The worst music to listen to while driving is Pantera, especially after a hard day at work. Z. I couldn't agree more. Whenever I am listening to Pantera and I'm really into. Singing everyone of Phil's grunts and groans. I start speedding without even realizing it!! Pantera wjust gets me so pumped up I feel like I am immortal. Like I am so tough I could do anything and not fel the pain or face the consequeses. And I am not normally like that. But if anyone wants to hear music that wiill totally pump you up like for a sporting event or a live performance listen to Pantera. On my very first live performance I was very nervous. SWo nervous that up on stage my hands were shaking so bad I couldn't eeven pluck a note. (Luckily I was with 3 other guitarists). Then before my secound show I listened to pantera all day and was so pumped up I felt immortal. I could do no wrong. So I got on stage and nailed the performance. Well except for a volume problem. But my point is listne to Pantera, learn the lyrics, their meaning, and sing them. YOU WILL FEEL NOTHING BUT STRENGTH BEYOND STRENGTH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Well sorry for non-DT but at least my post is longer than my sig. Trey ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 3 Apr 1995 07:27:59 +0200 From: email_address_removed.de (Bernd Basmer) To: email_address_removed Subject: frank Message-ID: Hi Jammers. I think it's enough now. Can't anybody unsubscribe this FRANK from this list?? Who is he to judge about _OPINIONS_? And I think (MY opinion!!!) that how he chooses his words is not the thing I want to read on this list. So isn't it possible to take this guy off??? Just _MHO_!!!! Bye Bernd. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 3 Apr 1995 03:03:30 EST5EST From: "James A Walsh" To: email_address_removed Message-ID: To the members of DREAM THEATER. I am so glad I have found your E-mail address. It's the second best thing to actually sitting down and talking with you. The only problem is that I don't know what to say. Its almost as if I were talking to a god. Actually to a musician like myself, it is like talking to a god. All of you have great talents in the musical profession. There a not many that have your skill and talent. Your music is very inspiring(if I spelled it correctly). I also find your music very challanging as well to play. It took me almost entire week just to learn the solo in lie, and that is only because I have the tablature for it. This paragraph is writen for John P. I find you to be one of the greatest guitarist I have ever heard. The music you write (especially your solos) have a lot of feeling and grace. Its as if the music comes directly from your soul, into your guitar. I know this may sound weird, but I take my music very seriously. I practice at least 2-3 hours a day learning the songs of people like Ynwie Malmsteen, Satriani, exe. I also practice a lot of your music as well. From a devoted fan, James Walsh P.S. If it is not too much to ask. Would you please write back. Just so I know that you received this message. It would mean more than you know. THANK YOU VERY MUCH!!!!!!! ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 3 Apr 1995 02:24:29 -0500 (CDT) From: Slick Doggy Dawg To: ytse jam Subject: Web Page Message-ID: I've noticed that some have a link to my web page. Due to an address change, my url will be changing also. I can not be sure what it will be yet so i set up a url that will always be correct. So if you have a link to my page on your page then can you please change it to: http://www.cen.uiuc.edu/~polzin/index.html Thanks. And if you have a dt page that you would like added to my page then just mail me the url and your name. Ed Polzin ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 2 Apr 1995 23:24:19 +0000 From: Stuart Booth To: email_address_removed Subject: Dream Theater FAQ. Deliberate mistake??? Message-ID: I was reading the latest DT FAQ when I noticed this question/answer sticking out like a proverbial thumb: 2.7 Marillion is thanked in the liners in IAW, What's the relation? Dream Theater opened for Marillion in New York (anyone have the exact date?). Mike Portnoy also said, "We're all really big fans. I really dig 'Misplaced Childhood'." Whether Dream Theater and Phish are familiar with each other is not certain. Phish?! Don't you mean Fish, as in Derek W Dick? Stuart. -- ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 3 Apr 95 09:55:30 GMT From: David Barlow To: email_address_removed Subject: DT, non-DT .... Lots of questions Message-ID: email_address_removed.co.uk Hi there Jammers........ I have been reading the Jam for about a month now and have decided to get involved !! I saw the MTV Europe show with Mike P. presenting. When he was talking to Terrorvision he said DT were very popular in mainland Europe but not in the UK (the reverse is true for Terrorvision), DT then go on to play a single date in London ! I don't think they are going to break over here by playing one show. I know the distances people travel in the UK are nothing compared to people in the States but bands need to get seen and only the "die-hard" fans will travel anywhere. (In case you were wondering I couldn't make the London show cause I was on a training course). I'd be interested what people think, I guess I'm just grumpy that I didn't see them this time though they may be back for some festivals (any news anyone ?) If any jammers want any UK Dream Theater stuff like Live At The Marquee or the Lie Single then get in touch, I'm sure we can come up with a trade. Can the guy with the Petrucci Guitar Clinic get in touch as I'd love a copy. How do you get a Ytse Jam T-Shirt ? I'd gladly help with any guitar transcription checking. I heard a rumour that Tommy Skeoch has left Tesla - is this true ? And finally..... does anyone what's happened to Kings X. They booked dates in the UK in May last year, cancelled them and I haven't heard since. Keep Jammin' Dave | I see the world thru blood shot eyes | | Streets filled with blood from distant lies | | the dogs of war never compromise | | no time for re arranging | | - "Clean My Wounds" | | Pepper Keenan CoC | | | | email_address_removed.co.uk | ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 3 Apr 1995 11:26:42 +0200 From: Matthias Murra To: email_address_removed Subject: "Hi!" from Mike! Message-ID: Hi! Since my previous post seems to have been lost, I will try again, hopefully this one will make it ... A few weeks ago I wrote about meeting Mike at the Queensryche concert in Hamburg (Germany). Three days later, on the day of Dream Theater's gig in Bremen, there was an in-store event and I talked to Mike a little on that occasion, asking him whether they knew the band (QR) well etc. I also asked something about him the mailing list, and he said that I should say "Hi!" to all you guys here, and that I hope to have done now (at last). :-) The other band members seemed rather bored at the in-store, but Mike was - as always - clown of the crew. :-) BTW: I totally agree with the guy who wrote about seeing Geoff Tate at one of the Queensryche concerts and assessing his performance as "incredible", their show at the Royal Albert Hall in London must have been their (and especially Geoff's) best performance I have seen (so far I have seen them seven times, including gigs on the Empire tour). He's just great, I hope he quits smoking though ... :-( Greets, Matt | Matthias Murra | "Love is an act of blood | | Dpt. of Mathematics | And I'm bleeding | | University of Bremen | Pool in the shape of a heart" | | Germany | Dream Theater "Space-Dye Vest" | ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 3 Apr 1995 12:56:32 +0200 From: email_address_removed.de (Bernd Basmer) To: email_address_removed Subject: voc-melody Message-ID: Hi again. Well I was just listening to the "Live at the Marquee"-CD this morning and there came up a real simple question: I wonder if James does the melodies of his parts on his own or if the band tells him what to sing. I know the lyrics are done by the whole band (or by the person who wrote the song) but how about the harmonies? Anyone knows? I really don't think, that he COULDN'T do it because IMO he's a great singer and the harmonies fit his voice perfectly. But there are some real musicaly educated people in this band and I can't believe that they don't "help" him a little bit ;) Well, that's all for the moment. Bye. Bernd. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 3 Apr 1995 09:30:57 -0400 (EDT) From: Hairball To: email_address_removed Subject: Little to No DT Content Message-ID: Hello all! I apologize for the lack of DT content, but... 1) Spruce Street Revival (my band) played a gig this past friday. It went well considering: a) one of our guitarists was home in D.C. with mono AND Streph (sp) throat! We had a fill-in, who, I found out right before we went on, had never played in a band before. He did well, nonetheless. b) We couldn't hear ourselves well. c) Another member of the band (not me) was nearing F.U.B.A.R. status. The reason I mention this: A young woman asked our drummer when we'd have a demo out. I'm standing there, listening (this was while we were between songs), and he tells her "By the end of April, we'll have an album out." GRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR! Now I have a deadline. :( Blech! So, those of you who are wondering what I can do with the crappy gear that I have, and want to see if I'm full of it with my engineering babbling will get your opportunity sooner than I had anticipated. 2) Philadelphia (my lovely home town...gag...) is currently stuck in the middle of a Mass Transit strike. Everything - the El, the Subway, the Trolley-Subway/Surface Cars, The Busses, the Regional Rails - is shut down. Anticipating this, I've been driving to classes, and found some interesting ways to by-pass the working stiffs who now have to drive from their comfy homes out in Bucks County & the other 'burbs into Center City. (everybody...AWWWWWWWW....) There is an upside to all this: (DT CONTENT!) As I drive through/past campus, AWAKE gets blared loudly from my car, windows down. =) I love annoying the urban residents, and my fellow Temple students. (For those of you not from these parts, Temple is in the middle of one of the poorest sections of Philadelphia. They were bribed by the City years ago not to move out into the suburbs.) Squeaked that in, didn't I? =) Take it easy, -Hairball ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 03 Apr 95 09:13:23 EST From: email_address_removed To: email_address_removed Subject: I Mother Earth Message-ID: Does anyone have the lyrics to "Dig", or know of where I can get them? I just purchased the promo copy of the album, and I'm getting into them, but... I have a hard time understanding just what the dude is singing! I hope I'm not the only one...HELP! chris ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 3 Apr 1995 09:40:24 -0600 (MDT) From: William Kriski To: email_address_removed Subject: DT TAb book Message-ID: To all guitarists, I just picked up DT's I&W tablature and thought I'd mention it to anyone interested in discussing it (ie. picking patterns, corrections, etc). Back to our regularly scheduled argument. Will ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 3 Apr 1995 13:24:07 -0400 (EDT) From: Space-Dye Vest To: email_address_removed Cc: Multiple recipients of list Subject: ytsejam 767 Message-ID: Hey Jammers, I erased ytsejam 767, but I wanted to keep that one. Can anybody be kind enough to forward me ytsejam 767? Thank you. Brandon: email_address_removed ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 3 Apr 1995 14:36:30 -0400 (EDT) From: Michael Van Opstall To: email_address_removed Subject: oops Message-ID: Oops. Moon Bubbles isn't on LiT. Thanks Tim. Here's a DT theory that I have. I think that the whole Awake album is about the Internet. 6:00 is the time some hardcore Net guys get up to use it. It's also the time (AM) that the real hardcore guys are just getting to sleep. I don't need to explain Caught in a Web. Innocence faded and Erotomania have to do with the tremendous amount of pornography on the Net. The silent man is what you become when you spend all your time in front of a computer. This is really far fetched and is a complete joke if you hadn't realized that yet. M.A. VanOpstall email_address_removed ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 3 Apr 1995 12:05:50 -0400 (EDT) From: zebrowski steven To: email_address_removed Subject: ytsecon Message-ID: YO! June 3rd sounds like a great time for the ytsecon. Is that a Friday or a Sat.? I turn 21 on June 1st, so that's cool Plus my girlfriend will be out of town, so she won't be able to yell at me for driving up to New York for "some stupid rock group." She hates DT; I've tried to convert her, but it's hopeless; so now I make her listen to them for punishment. As far as jamming on some DT tunes, I really don't think anyone could stop all you guitar players from sneaking in your Chiquita guitars and Pignose amps! ;) See Ya Steve Z ------------------------------ End of YTSEJAM Digest 770 *************************