YTSEJAM Digest 749 Today's Topics: 1) GTR's Second Album by email_address_removed 2) mlol by email_address_removed 3) Re: your mail by jbako01 4) Piano transcriptions? by Mark Tedhams 5) Re: more no dt content looking for help by William Wright 6) Re: Greg Lake in Asia by Andrew Keegan 7) Re: YES! by William Wright 8) For those of you who DID like Echolyn...... by Partha Mukhopadhyay 9) DT's 3rd gig in Holland! by email_address_removed.nl 10) Re: Echolyn by email_address_removed (Dr. Mosh) 11) hi everybody.. i saw 'em !!! by email_address_removed.fr (david nahmani) 12) Metropolis and Kansas by alper ince 13) The Echolyn thread... by "David Barro" 14) Hey, Let's Try This: by Hairball 15) Happy Birthday! by zebrowski steven 16) DT-photos by email_address_removed.se (Henrik Gustafsson) 17) Re: YTSEJAM digest 705 by email_address_removed (Ken Higginson) 18) dub site closed by Michelle Garcia 19) Re: The Echolyn thread... by email_address_removed (Dr. Mosh) 20) FAQ by email_address_removed (Alex Reinelt) 21) Dream Theater/Echolyn tour???!!!??? by "Brian V. Cox" 22) Babs/Ass-Whooping/Etc by "Brian V. Cox" 23) Warrant - LITTLE DT CONTENT by email_address_removed (John Hough) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Tue, 14 Mar 1995 01:19:13 -0500 From: email_address_removed To: email_address_removed Subject: GTR's Second Album Message-ID: GTR altered their line-up slightly by acquiring vocalist/guitarist Robert Berry and Marillion drummer Ian Mosely for a second album. This group did not last very long. They changed their name to Nerotrend, but did NOT release any material under either name. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Ghost email_address_removed "You know how a stick looks bent when you put it in water? That's why I don't take baths." --Steven Wright ------------------------------------------------------------------------ ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 14 Mar 1995 17:13:10 -0400 (EDT) From: email_address_removed To: email_address_removed Subject: mlol Message-ID: Someone mentioned the Musical Lists of Lists early last week, and if anyone responded, it was when my mail was getting bounced. So, now I'd like to inquire about this. I need the address for it (if it's working correctly - I believe the post was to complain that it wasn't). Can someone help me out on this. Much appreciated, KAI ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 14 Mar 1995 12:56:07 -0500 (EST) From: jbako01 To: "Dr. Mosh" Cc: Multiple recipients of list Subject: Re: your mail Message-ID: On Tue, 14 Mar 1995, Dr. Mosh wrote: > --- Forwarded mail from email_address_removed > > >From email_address_removed Mon Mar 13 16:04:46 1995 > Return-Path: > Received: from CANCER.RUTGERS.EDU by mail.netcom.com (8.6.10/Netcom) > id QAA25411; Mon, 13 Mar 1995 16:04:36 -0800 > From: email_address_removed > Received: from zodiac.rutgers.edu by zodiac.rutgers.edu (PMDF V4.2-11 #8073) id > ; Mon, 13 Mar 1995 16:44:21 EST > Date: Mon, 13 Mar 1995 16:44:21 -0500 (EST) > Subject: Fates on NYC radio > To: email_address_removed > Message-id: > X-Envelope-to: email_address_removed > X-VMS-To: IN%"email_address_removed" > MIME-version: 1.0 > Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT > > > > > Hi FW/DT Guru, > > I hope you can forward this message below to the Fates Warning and Dream Theatre > lists. I only have access to read but not to send to them. > ************************************************************************* > > > 104.3 FM in New York City plays some pretty good and sometimes some bad > heavy/hard Rock. I finally decided to call up and request some Fates > Warning, figuring that since they play Dream Theatre they should have > FW. Well I was wrong. Those bozos do not have any FW in the station! > Now that seems pretty crazy to me. I now have a bit of an idea why FW > has such a hard time with recognition and sales, not to many places play > them. > If you folks out there think this is a problem call up the station and > let them know and/or request FW. Maybe they will do something like get > FW on their station. It would be a good thing. > I wish I knew the phone # off hand. Anyway, this is the biggest and > hottest Hard rock station and FW needs to be heard on this station. > > > > Peace, > Jim Robinson > > > > > > > > > --- End of forwarded message from email_address_removed > > > > > -- > #$%*#$*@ REAL: email_address_removed + VIRTUAL: email_address_removed *@#$*@#$ > *$%&%#$* The Dream Theater Archives: ftp.netcom.com: /pub/dr/drkhoe/dt &*@#$*@$ > **%^$#$% WWW: "ftp://ftp.netcom.com/pub/dr/drkhoe/www/dthome.html" #$**@#*$ > *$*$*$*# Reality Enhancement Software - Engineering Reality *$&#*#@$ > > Hey, forward this message back to your friend, there: Stop listening to that Q104.3 bullshit. How about listening to a real rock/metal station instead. Try 89.5FM WSOU. They've been playing DT & FW for as long as the bands have been around. I'm not flaming him. It seems he's just a bit 'misguided'. :) Later, James Bako email_address_removed Polytechnic University Brooklyn, New York ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 14 Mar 1995 15:54:33 -0700 (MST) From: Mark Tedhams To: email_address_removed Subject: Piano transcriptions? Message-ID: hello, I am looking for piano transcriptions of DT. I especially looking for the piano transcription to _Eve_ right now. Has anyone out there done this? Please email me at: email_address_removed if you have any information. Thanks.bye. - Mr.T finger me at: email_address_removed .............................................................................. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ When temptation brings me to <> i\ /i my knees <> i \/ i And I lay here drained of <> i i a r k strength <> Show me kindness <> --------- Show me beauty <> i Show me truth <> i - J.Myung <> i E D H A M S ................................................................................ ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ email_address_removed ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ ******************************************************************************** ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 14 Mar 1995 18:42:48 -0600 (CST) From: William Wright To: email_address_removed Subject: Re: more no dt content looking for help Message-ID: > second > I have heard bits and pieces about gentle giant.... > can someone describe the style of their playage to me > recommendations too > of albumens that is > please don't throw eggs tho It's really hard to describe Gentle Giant, almost all songs of theirs sound different and none of the songs sound like any other band I've heard. I have Octopus and Aquiring the Taste... I'd say try Octopus, it'll give you a good idea about the band, plus the packaging is neat, it has lyrics and it has a note from the band about each song and what they were trying to do with it or just what they were thinking when writing. > > third > there is a band with the letters "a" "c" "i" "o" "r" in its name > but how is this name actually spelt I wonder > seen cairo > cario > I am confused blind and would appreciate insight > also as to style &c as above > > fourth > camel > assistance is begged of generous persons regarding this band as well > I have seen a box set > is this a good buy > or should I buy > albums instead > > > is this a good-by > > Chris no the other one > > > *---* "I am a Rock, I am an Island" -- P.Simon *---* > * * > * R.Christopher Hailey *---* I am one who delights in * > * email_address_removed * * all manifestation of the * > * email_address_removed *---* terpsichorean muse -- mp * > * * > *---* "One must put up barriers To keep one's self intact" -- N.Peart > > > > > > > funny > I thought you'd say that > > ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 14 Mar 1995 19:52:06 -0500 (EST) From: Andrew Keegan To: email_address_removed Cc: Multiple recipients of list Subject: Re: Greg Lake in Asia Message-ID: On Tue, 14 Mar 1995, Hairball wrote: > Greg Lake did NOT perform on Alpha. > > He performed live with the band on that tour. You can see him on "ASIA IN > ASIA," a home concert video. > Well, partly right. Greg Lake only played two shows with Asia. Both were in Japan and one of them was the ASIA IN ASIA video. This show was one of the early MTV concert endeavors and ASIA had to recruit Greg lake quite quickly since Wetton left and they probably didn't want to lose the video money. Andy email_address_removed ============================================================== "Emancipate yourself from "There's only one way mental slavery, of life, None but ourselves can free And that's your own" our mind" - B. Marley - Levellers ============================================================== ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 14 Mar 1995 18:50:25 -0600 (CST) From: William Wright To: email_address_removed Subject: Re: YES! Message-ID: > It's Fred. I just want to tell the YTSE-world that I've been ill for a > couple of days and been listening to YES "Close to the edge" pretty mych > constantly. VERDICT: IT RULES!! BUY IT!! Yup.... if you like Close to the Edge, get Relayer too... both rock. I hope you got the remastered disc! The bass on it is awesome huh? ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 15 Mar 1995 01:13:16 -0500 (EST) From: Partha Mukhopadhyay To: email_address_removed Subject: For those of you who DID like Echolyn...... Message-ID: $5 for the lyrics? How about trying http://tarkus.ac.acs.cmu.edu/echolyn/echolyn.html and getting them for free? About DT....I just started getting this digest yesterday, so I don't know what the original question about "Lie" was, butIMO it's the best song on AWAKE, along with AMBI (all 3 parts kick ass in my book.........) Partha ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 15 Mar 95 10:28:11 +0100 From: email_address_removed.nl To: email_address_removed Subject: DT's 3rd gig in Holland! Message-ID: Hi all, I don't know if anyone alse posted something about DT third gig in Holland The concert was great, even better then the 1st & 2nd show. They played (again) a different set, with 'Innocenec Faded', which was not played on the Euro tour before. Also they played 'Wait for sleep' acousticly!!. John M. & John P. both acoustic, it was great. John Pettruci threw 2 picks into the audience, and I have both of them! (hehe) The whole show lasted about 2 hours and 15 minutes. When they (finally) went of stage Mike shouted into the mic "You fuckers RULE!". All in all a great night. see ya, Marcel email_address_removed.nl ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 15 Mar 1995 01:37:57 PST From: email_address_removed (Dr. Mosh) To: email_address_removed Subject: Re: Echolyn Message-ID: My views on Echolyn: Echolyn's As the World is a very progressive album. It is quite innovative, but I'm sorry to say, it is not quite yet my cup of tea. I don't like the harmonized vocals that they use, and the music is a little to laxed for me. For those who are big DT fans... make sure you listen to this before you buy it... -The Doc -- #$%*#$*@ REAL: email_address_removed + VIRTUAL: email_address_removed *@#$*@#$ *$%&%#$* The Dream Theater Archives: ftp.netcom.com: /pub/dr/drkhoe/dt &*@#$*@$ **%^$#$% WWW: "ftp://ftp.netcom.com/pub/dr/drkhoe/www/dthome.html" #$**@#*$ *$*$*$*# Reality Enhancement Software - Engineering Reality *$&#*#@$ ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 15 Mar 1995 10:36:11 +0000 From: email_address_removed.fr (david nahmani) To: email_address_removed Subject: hi everybody.. i saw 'em !!! Message-ID: <9503151036.AA01461@eal.fr> hi everybody! monday night (13/03/95), i went to the Dream Theater concert in l'Elysee Montmartre, Paris, France. The first thing i did tuesday was to seek for a DT mailing list to express my feeling... *WHAT* *A* *GIG* !!!!! I couldn't believe it ! In fact i knew the awake album and some parts of the live at the marquee album, and i've been astonished by all the concert. That's why i'd like to know more about the band, and about the DT addicted... is this reaction a normal one ? :-))) is there any people who have been to the Paris GIG ? have a good day ! Amicalement, -==- << I know you believe you understand what you think I said, but I am not sure you realize that what you heard is not what I meant >> Reliable source. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 15 Mar 1995 13:48:50 +0300 (MEST) From: alper ince To: email_address_removed Subject: Metropolis and Kansas Message-ID: Hello to all! Did anyone of you listen to the first Kansas album?There is a song named Journey From Mariabronn there.Some parts of this song are very similar to Metropolis.Did DT influence too much from Kansas?What do u think? ALPER INCE ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 15 Mar 95 08:03 EST From: "David Barro" To: email_address_removed Subject: The Echolyn thread... Message-ID: To add to all of the Echolyn word passing around, I'd have to say that their strongest influence, more than Jethro Tull, Rush or Marillion, [Both Brett(guitarist) and Chris(keyboardist) say that they weren't really influenced by Marillion, I might add] is Gentle Giant. It's the most apparent through listening to their vocal syncopation/harmonies, and, because Brett said so. :) Gentle Giant, for all purposes, has been called by many to be the "quintessential Progressive Rock group." They were extremely innovative and influenced many Prog groups in the seventies and even up until now, as demonstrated by Echolyn. But the best thing is that no band has ever even showed the *potential* to exist above the "Gentle Giant clone" phase -- except Echolyn. They cer- tainly have things that even Gentle Giant didn't, and I'm sure they're related to both performance and composing. Kudos to Echolyn!! And DREAM THEATER! (There -- now it's not a non-DT article!) :) David Barro, with my $.02 (after tax) "Fashions and Fads a Fictitious Flirtation the Foremost Foundation to Fit In" Echolyn, "As The World" ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 15 Mar 1995 08:14:13 -0500 (EST) From: Hairball To: email_address_removed Subject: Hey, Let's Try This: Message-ID: I intern at a top 40/alternative lean radio station. My g/f bought me the Silent Man single (just that one song, unfortunately), and I immediately took it down to the Music Director. I'd talked to him about DT several times. He's yet to put it out. Anyway, in the interest of getting a fire lit under their asses, I'd like to ask you YtseJammers in the Philly/Trenton area who can get WPST (97.5) to call the station and request the song. I know it'll go over well, but, I've got to convince them to play it! Okay - the request lines: (609) 683-WPST (800) 248-WPST Don't call repeatedly during one show. Jocks remember voices. Also, calling between 10am & 2pm might have more impact. The Program Director is on at that time. =) Calls from outside this area are not recommended - LD calls show up on the (800) phone bill. It's amazing. DO NOT MENTION THIS AD! =) Seriously. Thanks much, Hairball ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 15 Mar 1995 12:08:38 -0500 (EST) From: zebrowski steven To: email_address_removed Subject: Happy Birthday! Message-ID: Greetings, jammers! I would just like to ask all the Ytse Jammers to join me in wishing Jason Hartman a Happy Birthday! I'm sure a lot of you have recieved a fair amount of bootlegs from Jason in the past . Oh, Hairball said that Eddie Jackson of QR uses a pick, but the only time I've ever seen him use a pick is on Jet City Woman. None of the songs on Promised Land sound like pick songs to me. Just wonderin' :) See Ya Steve ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 15 Mar 1995 16:44:29 +0100 From: email_address_removed.se (Henrik Gustafsson) To: email_address_removed Subject: DT-photos Message-ID: Hi everone I met a girl when I saw DT in Stockholm, who were a free-lance-photgrapher. We started to chat and she said that when DT was in Stockholm in April '93 (the Images-tour) she was on stage taking some pictures. I didn't remeber seeing that, thou'. she had had some sort of photo-pass. I , of course, gave her some money, and now I've got some ( about 10 ) photos from her. She will be sending some more photos from the November'93-tour ( after; Live at the Marquee) , later on she said. BTW she was back-stage after the consert this year, but she found it boring. All that happened was that two roodies sat down and drank beer, with a couple of girls ( Groupies, bimbos ). So she left. Her photographic style is a bit odd. The pictures are very dark, sometimes you're not even sure it is DT-folk on them. On the other hand they are extremely close, perhaps 1 meter, and even closer on some. That's so cool. So if any of you want to see them I can scan them and E-mail them to you. I wish I could show them to you in my homepage, but the school I'm in , decided not to go on the global Internet, until August, and by then I'm out of here. We do have an internal net , only for the school, so I have a homepage, but you can't see it. :-( If you are interested please Email directly to me, and I will send you one as an attachment, so you can check her style out. --___---_--__----_ ARE there any YtseJammer in South America ? Because I've got a job and will move down there in June. I will live in Buenos Aires, Argentina and it would be so wonderful to have a friend there already. I know absolutely no one there. If so please let me know. Ok That's all. Now I'm gonna get something to eat. BYE to all of you. Henrik Gustafsson email_address_removed.se Dream Theater Drottninggatan 62 c 7 Q94 Toni Holgersson S-461 33 Trollha:ttan IE-91 Just D +46 (0)520-155 98 070-814 24 38 Fish ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 15 Mar 95 09:33:57 MST From: email_address_removed (Ken Higginson) To: email_address_removed Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 705 Message-ID: I used to be pissed that everyone had a cool DT poster but me, so I got one: I just bought an Ibanez USA custom (the same guitar John P. plays) for $1700.00. I made them throw in the Ibanez poster of John... It's fuckin' huge. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 15 Mar 1995 11:51:54 -0800 (PST) From: Michelle Garcia To: email_address_removed Cc: Multiple recipients of list Subject: dub site closed Message-ID: I will no longer be taking requests for Kevin Moore dubs. I am off to the Bay Area for spring break soon, maybe I will see ytsejammers there (God, we are everywhere! Scary!) -------------------------------------------------------------- Michelle Garcia {{{{}}}} University of California, San Diego San Diego Supercomputer Center USA email: email_address_removed { "As a child, I thought I could live without pain without sorrow..." - John Petrucci, DREAM THEATER } -------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 15 Mar 1995 13:21:04 PST From: email_address_removed (Dr. Mosh) To: email_address_removed Subject: Re: The Echolyn thread... Message-ID: Echolyn definitely is not influenced by Marillion that much, there is a starck contrast here, while Marillion tends to be moody, dark, somber, Echolyn tends to be more upbeat and fluttery... -The Doc -- #$%*#$*@ REAL: email_address_removed + VIRTUAL: email_address_removed *@#$*@#$ *$%&%#$* The Dream Theater Archives: ftp.netcom.com: /pub/dr/drkhoe/dt &*@#$*@$ **%^$#$% WWW: "ftp://ftp.netcom.com/pub/dr/drkhoe/www/dthome.html" #$**@#*$ *$*$*$*# Reality Enhancement Software - Engineering Reality *$&#*#@$ ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 16 Mar 95 0:39:46 MET From: email_address_removed (Alex Reinelt) To: email_address_removed Subject: FAQ Message-ID: Hi, just wanted to ask how the FAQ is going with its new editor and when we can count for the newxt and newest edition.... thxe & bye, Freak ( Alexander Reinelt from Munich/Germany - freakmarked since 1987 ) email_address_removed Alex_Reinelt@2:2480/66 ( fax:(++ 49 89) 689 18 71 voice:(++ 49 89) 68 33 40 ) I use & highly recommend Sony MINI-DISC for portable audio! ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 15 Mar 1995 17:00:13 -0600 (CST) From: "Brian V. Cox" To: email_address_removed Subject: Dream Theater/Echolyn tour???!!!??? Message-ID: please, please, please let there be truth to that rumor!! the echolyn cd is one of the most amazing pieces of music i have ever heard. i was blown away and have listened to all 70 minutes of it over 20 times in the last week. i really would be worried that the "balls and chunk" type dt fans might not appreciate them as an opener, though, and might react very negatively. they definitely are not metal by any stretch, but they are very very talented musicians and very mature songwriters... **always looking for rush/dream theater/queensryche/king's x bootlegs** ============================================================================= Voices repeating me, Brian V. Cox Voices discussing me, "Feeling threatened? email_address_removed "Others steal your thoughts We reflect your hopes Dream Theater- They're not confined and fears." A Mind Beside Itself: II. Voices Within your mind." ============================================================================= check out my new homepage: http://tam2000.tamu.edu/~bvc8995 ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 15 Mar 1995 17:33:21 -0600 (CST) From: "Brian V. Cox" To: email_address_removed Subject: Babs/Ass-Whooping/Etc Message-ID: This is in reply to this guy, who feels the need to flame me for no reason, not even knowing who i am or what i said: > From: John Mastin > Subject: Don't flame me > > And who was the person giving Babs a hard time? I wanted to write out an > I.O.U. to him, collectable at any time.... :D (just lighten up, that's all.) > > -------8<-------8<-------8<-----cut here----8<-------8<-------8<------- > > I. O. U. 1 (one) ass-whooping for giving my friend Babs a hard time > after all of her hard work in this Ytsecon. > > -------8<-------8<-------8<-----cut here----8<-------8<-------8<------- > i think that it is to me that you are referring. i was not giving her a hard time. why dont you actually read the message that is in question before posting this? i merely pointed out at the beginning of the "ytsecon" idea that maybe we should wait until we know the dt summer tour schedule before laying down a date and reserving rooms, which seems to be what is happening right now anyway. i never implied that texas would be a better place to have a get-together, i did say maybe we should have regional get-togethers, which seems to be a popular idea. if you really want to take up your "IOU" i will more than welcome you. just let me know where you will be. i am even planning on trying to make it to the long island get-together (all 2000 or so miles away of it) so let me know if you will be there. i really think that offering to kick someone's ass on this list for posting an opinion is inappropriate and inexcusable. especially when said opinion was in now way meant as an insult. i was just saying we should wait until we have more info. you are the one that needs to lighten up, dude. **always looking for rush/dream theater/queensryche/king's x bootlegs** ============================================================================= Voices repeating me, Brian V. Cox Voices discussing me, "Feeling threatened? email_address_removed "Others steal your thoughts We reflect your hopes Dream Theater- They're not confined and fears." A Mind Beside Itself: II. Voices Within your mind." ============================================================================= check out my new homepage: http://tam2000.tamu.edu/~bvc8995 ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 15 Mar 1995 17:19:57 -0800 From: email_address_removed (John Hough) To: email_address_removed Subject: Warrant - LITTLE DT CONTENT Message-ID: On March 12th, Richard Riviera wrote: >I just picked up the new Warrant album "Ultraphobic" and it is >incredible!! DT fans I definitley second this statement and everything else he said about this CD. It is REALLY good and it is definitley not anything like the "Cherry Pie" days. If anything buy it at Werehouse, then if you don't like it return it. But it is definitley worth it. Later ^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^ John Hough email_address_removed "But with a knife I call the truth, I sever ties and cut me loose, I won't follow." - Jani Lane, Warrant From "Followed" on the new cd - "Ultraphobic". ^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^ ------------------------------ End of YTSEJAM Digest 749 *************************