YTSEJAM Digest 725 Today's Topics: 1) RE: YTSEJAM digest 722 by email_address_removed 2) Tee me by "MCPHERSON MICHAEL J" 3) Re: YTSEJAM digest 722 by Hairball 4) Re: Recording Shit by email_address_removed (Alex Reinelt) 5) Re: YTSEJAM digest 722 by John Ambrose 6) more Awake observations by email_address_removed (Bracken Odiorne) 7) INFERNO by alfredo.cappello@galactica.it (ALFREDO CAPPELLO) 8) dream band by email_address_removed 9) Hello! by "Berkoski_Leonard" 10) hairball and other stuff by email_address_removed (Jeff Stern) 11) K Moore demos by Greg Sands 12) About This Technical B.S. (No DT Content!) by Hairball 13) Dream Band by STEVE SMITS 14) alone by Stone 15) I Fucked Up!! by email_address_removed (Ryan J Benedict) 16) by 17) DAVE GROHL SUCKS. thank you by "UG REIS CHARLES R" 18) awake cover by Michael Van Opstall 19) Pronunciation by zebrowski steven 20) Re: "Ytse"??? by Andrew Keegan 21) bunches o' stuff by "Tom Cook" 22) Re: YTSEJAM digest 723 by John B Ashcraft 23) YJ Regional Conventions by "Dan Tshin" 24) Kevin Demos by email_address_removed 25) Re: DAVE GROHL SUCKS. thank you by Ricky Booth 26) Dream Band by John B Ashcraft 27) Re: DAVE GROHL SUCKS. thank you by William Wright ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Tue, 28 Feb 1995 09:10:45 MST From: email_address_removed To: email_address_removed Subject: RE: YTSEJAM digest 722 Message-ID: My name's Mike, and I've never posted on this before, but I have been reading for about two months. I have a question about guitar pics that came with Awake. Nobody I have ever spoken too has ever seen one, but my copy came with a black pic that says "Dream Theater: Awake" on it. Anybody know anything about these? Thanks a bunch. Mike ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 28 Feb 1995 10:29:28 CDT From: "MCPHERSON MICHAEL J" To: email_address_removed Subject: Tee me Message-ID: I am relatively new to this listserv, and so far I've just been hanging around "listening in". I think Babs's idea for a ytsejam get- together is great, and I am looking forward to its unfolding. Oh, I also "heard" something about ytsejam T-shirts... I want one!!! So if someone could just send me some info at email_address_removed I would be eternally grateful! THANX :-) mIcHaEL mCphERsON %-) ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 28 Feb 1995 11:49:53 -0500 (EST) From: Hairball To: email_address_removed Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 722 Message-ID: > It's not quite pertinent to this list. I kinduv liked the first > couple, but this is turning into, as I said to hairball before, An > email nerd festival. (No offense, great career you've chosen for > yourself, wanna be my band's producer?) > Thanx, > ChucK Sure, why not? Be prepared to work, I'm an anal-retentive ball-buster. > zonder said wreckl (sp?) Dave Weckel. Considered by many drummers to be the best living drummer alive. Played with Chick Corea's Elektric Band, with the likes of John Pattitucci & Frank Gambale. Monsters. Absolute monsters. All of 'em. I'd have to agree. The man does stuff on a regular basis that boggles the mind. As much as I love Mike P. & Neil's playing, Dave's better. > From: William Wright > Subject: Mixing Jons bass, etc... > There has been much dicussion about John's bass and how poorly its been > mixed. I am wondering how they got it screwed up on 3 CDs in a row! Actually, Baron/Purdell did the best job yet. > right? I mean, listen to Chris Squire's sound on Close to the Edge by > Yes.... > So, why? :) Well, see, you're really comparing apples & oranges. Chris Squire's bass tone is extremely sharp & bright, overall. It really cuts through, because they've cranked up that apparent brightness frequency. Now, the tone fits nicely (and hey, there *Is* some bass in it, yes), in the context of that band. As for recording techniques, the most brilliant bass recording system was accomplished by The Beatles. Without going into another disseration, let's just say that lower frequencies are "bigger" than higher ones. They move more air. You need a microphone (if you're miking the cabinet) with a large diaphram that can capture these lower frequencies. What the Beatles did was to re-wire another bass cabinet so the speakers acted as microphones, then pushed it up against Paul's amp. That's why it sounds so full. But, to answer your question, DT (having read the post about Terry Date's lack of input) and Prater produced their respective records using their own "experiences." If you listen to other Prater productions (especially Firehouse) the bassist, who's playing pretty much straight 8th notes (you'd expect more?), his tone is full & warm, and takes up a nice amount of space. So, in a word, they really chose the wrong producer. =) NEXT! > From: email_address_removed (Dr. Mosh) > Subject: Re: THIS IS FOR HAIRBALL > Actually, if the frequencies are below your hearing range, which most of > Myungs bass output is, you won't actually "hear" it any better at any > volume, you'll maybe FEEL it more since it's very subsonic and resonates, > but unless you had good subwoofers you won't feel or hear a damn thing... > -The Doc Yeah, really. 40hz tones just won't come through a clock radio speaker...they're too "big" and the speaker's not built to handle it. > From: email_address_removed (John Hough) > Subject: Hairball's explanation > > Brilliant man! One of the most informative things I've read in a long time! > No shit. Gee...thanks... =) However, from here on in, I'll be charging $15/hr for any more questions. =) Actually, as an aside, I went to this guy's studio to help a friend mix his rap "song" , and wound up telling the guy who owned the shit that his brother had it wired so cock-eyed it wasn't funny. The output of the board was actually feeding back INTO the board...uh... I said to him, "Look, I don't wanna unwire your studio. Besides, I charge $20/hr to do that." ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 28 Feb 95 18:17:32 MET From: email_address_removed (Alex Reinelt) To: email_address_removed Subject: Re: Recording Shit Message-ID: Well, I think these informations about recording and the sound-theory for things like I&W are MUCH MORE interesting then all this shit about - this musician versus this musician (Portnoy vs Peart) - what album does every single ytsejammer like? - what other bands does everyone listen So id really like to hear more of this interesting backround stuff about the sounds on the different albums and so on...and please do cut down these endless mailings about the above mentioned threats. really annoying! bye, Freak ( Alexander Reinelt from Munich/Germany - freakmarked since 1987 ) email_address_removed Alex_Reinelt@2:2480/66 ( fax:(++ 49 89) 689 18 71 voice:(++ 49 89) 68 33 40 ) "Belief will always save me" (Dream Theater - "Scarred") ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 28 Feb 95 11:44:12 EST From: John Ambrose To: email_address_removed Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 722 Message-ID: Hello, fellow 'Jammers... I thought I'd add a little to the "Dream Band" thread. HERE'S MY DREAM BAND: Geddy Lee - Bass, Vocals, Keyboards Alex Lifeson - Guitar, Bass Pedals Neil Peart - Percussion It doesn't get any better than that! --John ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 28 Feb 1995 10:06:42 -0700 (MST) From: email_address_removed (Bracken Odiorne) To: email_address_removed Subject: more Awake observations Message-ID: Hey Ytsejammers, I have one more observation about the Awake cover and its relation to the song LSOAD. Perhaps (I'm stretching here) since the reflection in the mirror (the Lie, thanks Brian Neilsen, that was a good idea) is in colour as opposed to the rest of "reality" one could say that Lifting Shadows (greyscale) Off A Dream (the reflection of a young man could be the dream of an old one). Whew! I was really stretching there! Has anyone figured out where Erotomania is yet? Bracken email_address_removed The Braxinator: "I'll be Brax!" ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 28 Feb 95 16:52:00 +0100 From: alfredo.cappello@galactica.it (ALFREDO CAPPELLO) To: email_address_removed Subject: INFERNO Message-ID: <8A463F4.00010141A2.uuout@galactica.it> Hi all, I just want tell everybody that on the first number of my new zine (called SHOCKWAVE) we have an interview with INFERNO (Jay Peele band!). bye Alf ---- alfredo.cappello@galactica.it * Q-Blue 1.0 * ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 28 Feb 1995 12:22:04 -0500 (EST) From: email_address_removed To: email_address_removed Subject: dream band Message-ID: Hey, this is my first post, and I've been noticing the dream band thing, so I decided to give my input. Vocals: Bruce Dickinson (Maiden) Guitar: Andy LaRocque (King Diamond) Bass: Steve DiGiorgio (Sadus/Death) Drums: Mark Zonder (Fates Warning) Keyboards: Steve Walsh (Kansas) Violin: Kath Howell (Skyclad) Flute: Ian Anderson (Jethro Tull) Also, can anybody give me some info on Kansas. I got into them about 5 months ago, and I have their first 5 albums. I was wondering what happened to them in the 80's and what members that they have now. Thanx. Ben Brizzell ------------------------------ Date: 28 Feb 1995 10:34:07 -0500 From: "Berkoski_Leonard" To: "ytsejam" Subject: Hello! Message-ID: From: Berkoski_Leonard on Tue, Feb 28, 1995 9:17 AM Subject: Hello! To: ytsejam Hi! I've been lurking around for several months now, and just thought I'd introduce myself to you all. My name Leonard Berkoski III, and I work at NASA-GSFC and am working on my masters at the University of Maryland in EE. I've been listening to DT for two years now and have seen one show (Awake tour), and all of my friends are into DT. Other bands I love are Rush, Queensryche, Fates Warning, Yes, Pink Floyd, and god knows how many more. Ok, enough of the intro crud ... Questions/Topics for discussion: 1) If DT did a duet/ballad like Queensryche's Sweet Sister Mary, who would be the female singer to best match James' voice? 2) Did anybody ever finish making a list of all of the other songs that are available on bootlegs other than those found on WDADU, I&W, or Awake? Even songs with different intro's (like how they used to play the beginning of the mirror before take the time). I only have the Live at the Marquis disc, and I am curious about other material. I know this was discussed, but I don't remember an actual list (if there was one and I missed it, just e-mail me directly!) 3.) On the DT:Live in Tokyo video, did DT REALLY open for Skid Row??? (shocking disbelief!) 4.) Is there any way to keep the size of the digest form smaller than 32K? My mail reader dumps it into a file if it gets longer than that. Ok my e-mail addresses are: email_address_removed or email_address_removed ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 28 Feb 1995 16:00:21 -0600 From: email_address_removed (Jeff Stern) To: email_address_removed Subject: hairball and other stuff Message-ID: After hearing all of that stuff, I went to the library here at Ohio State and took out that book you recommended. I think it is an earlier edition than the one you have (3rd), but I find it very interesting. I have considered sound engineering as a career for quite some time, but there are no classes here in it. Oh well, I guess I hAe to go somewhere else now, assuming that I enjoy the rest of the book. By the way, that snare on I&W drives me completely gaga!! I'm glad someone explained why it sounded the way it dd. For a while, I thought it could've been a drum machine. My only complaint on AWAKE is that I find Kevin's keyboards hard to hear on many occasions. It seems as though they were a little too soft throughout the entire production. Does anyone else agree or disagree with this? My last comment is on Derek. After seeing DT on Halloween night here in Columbus, I could not make any judgement at all on Derek. The reason for this is that at most times, I couldn't hear his keyboards AT ALL. The sound mixing was horrible. From what others are saying, though, he will be a fine addtion to DT No Kevin Moore, though. During his solo part in TTT, John Myung seemed very puzzled during the entire improv. This was because he couldn't figure out what key Derek was in. He kept looking at Derek with a confused look on his face. Finally, when Derek noticed with only about 30 seconds left in the improv, I sw him mouth the key, which was B flat. Anyway, this was only the biginning of the second week of the tour, so I don't hold anything against them, except for not being able to hear Derek (that's not really the band's fault). Sorry for such a long post. Jeff (the guy who can't figure out how and what to use for signatures) ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 1 Mar 1995 10:13:45 GMT+1300 From: Greg Sands To: email_address_removed Subject: K Moore demos Message-ID: Just to announce that a copy of Kevin Moore's demos has been received here in New Zealand, for any others on the list from down here. If you'd like a copy, give me an email at g.sands@auckland.ac.nz and we'll sort things out. It's not Dream Theater, but neither is it like anything much else I've heard! ObDT: Any idea if the band will make it down under for a tour at any stage? I know at least four people in Auckland who'd go!! (And you thought no-one knew of Dream Theater where you are!!!) Greg Greg Sands - g.sands@auckland.ac.nz Department of Engineering Science - University of Auckland - New Zealand. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 28 Feb 1995 12:54:06 -0500 (EST) From: Hairball To: email_address_removed Subject: About This Technical B.S. (No DT Content!) Message-ID: Just a quick note: If you missed my technical BS-ing that people are responding to, or, would just like a copy, email me here (email_address_removed), and I will forward a semi-condensed version of it. (it'll still be around 8-9k, but...) Thanks for appreciating. ****************************** *Production Rates: * * * *$10/hr (+travel & expenses) * *$15/hr if you watch * *$25/hr if you help * ****************************** email_address_removed ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 28 Feb 1995 11:59:07 -0600 (CST) From: STEVE SMITS To: email_address_removed Subject: Dream Band Message-ID: Date sent: 28-FEB-1995 11:50:21 Here's my Dream Band Picks: Vocals: Geoff Tate (so far a popular choice) Bass: Chris Squire Keys: Rick Wakeman....the god supreme of keyboards Lead Guitar: Eric Johnson Rythym Guitar: Alex Lifeson Violin: Robby Steinhardt (He could do background vocals as well) Drums: Neil Peart Flute: Ian Anderson Sorry...no one from DT. BTW, Neil Peart has said time and time again that Buddy Rich was as still is the greatest drummer that ever lived. No it isn't Neil, Carl, Mike P, Mark Z, Wekyl, or anyone else. Neil is right...Buddy rules hands down. ********************************************************************************* * "All my life they said I was going down, * But I'm still standing, stronger, proud. * And today I know there's so much more I can be." * - Someone Else? - Queensryche 1994 * * *** Always interested in trading Kansas shows *** * Steve Smits email_address_removed ******************************************************************************** ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 28 Feb 1995 13:09:48 -0600 (CST) From: Stone To: email_address_removed Subject: alone Message-ID: To whoever started the string about a DT covers band... Man o man would I ever like to sing for a band like that! No way could my current band ever do stuff like that. And even if they could, they probably wouldn't. I think there are three DT fans here, and I got the other two started... Also, why haven't I heard a peep about a midwest ytse-convention-thing? I'd offer to host it myself, but we probably can't cram too many people into my "smaller-than-the-average-prison-cell" dorm room... Anyone within a few hours driving time radius from Northfield, MN care to host? Wait, I suppose I should ask if there's anyone within a few states of me to begin with... Anyhoo, just some random thoughts. Life Rules! Alex ***************************************************************************** |"It's kind of depressing, but we'll cover it during lent when you're | | supposed to be depressed. Either that or before lent so you'll be good | | and depressed for lent." --R. Nicolai | ***************************************************************************** |Alex Fraser -- St. Olaf College -- e-mail: email_address_removed | ***************************************************************************** ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 28 Feb 1995 13:57:30 (CST) From: email_address_removed (Ryan J Benedict) To: email_address_removed Subject: I Fucked Up!! Message-ID: Y-Jamers, I will make this brief. It seems that the post that I made previously (Re: I am new here) is sort of ambiguous. When I mentioned how the list got its name, I failed to make myself clear! I suffer from this problem: haveing great ideas in my mind, but failing to make them clear to others. You should have heard what I wanted to say, it sounded great! I did make a mistake that DT realsed demos under the name Ytsejam. They realsed them under the name Majesty. Sorry. :( I am sorry for any and all confusion. Thanks to all of those who have and will be corrcting me. I really am not dumb, but I have a tendency to act like it some times. It would help if I worke on my English grammer (yes all of the foregin Ytsejammers have better english skills than I). I am now going to proceed to flame myself on my own time!!! Thanks for keeping me on this list everyone in spite of my mistkes!!! Nypsie ------------------------------ To: James Winfield (email_address_removed) From: Val Azzoli Subject: Atlantic Records "Dear James, I should be so lucky to have a release on March 28, I would love a Rush record on March 28. Definitely not. There'll probably be a new Rush album in the latter part of 95 or early 96. The band is about to go and start writing their new album in a month, they'll put it out in late fall or early 96, then they'll go on a tour which will probably be followed by a live album or a boxed set or compilation of their live shows-- tying it in with a CD-ROM. Thanks, Val Azzoli" This is the best I can do for you all. I don't think there are many better sources than the Pres. of the company! :) Hope this puts some of you at ease. -Chris at York College -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Major League Baseball players...please come back! -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 28 Feb 1995 15:10:29 MST From: "UG REIS CHARLES R" To: email_address_removed Subject: DAVE GROHL SUCKS. thank you Message-ID: >ok, well I had an actual argument over "Who is the better drummer?" >I was arguing my way for Portnoy. >This moron claimed that DAVE GROHL from Nirvana was better than >Portnoy. Daivid Grohl is better than Portnoy, in the sense that he sucks at drums far better than Portnoy ever could. Even if Portnoy played a lame country 4/4 beat, Dave Grohl coudn't keep up. (Actually, from what I've heard, is that he's actually a good drummer behind the scenes of Nirvana). Even Green Day's drummer (and don't flame me for this, you have to admit it) is pretty good. He has plenty of speed which a drummer needs, it's just that his accuracy and selection of which drums to hit isn't very good. BTW, Portnoy is still THE drum god. Reference Raistlin Majere to Takhisis, and... nevermind, save that for Dragonlance ftp... ChucK ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 28 Feb 1995 17:09:15 -0500 (EST) From: Michael Van Opstall To: email_address_removed Subject: awake cover Message-ID: Here's my awake cover opinions: 6:00 - the clock in the moon Caught in a Web - the spider web Innoncence Faded - either the age of the man or the grey of the world compared to the blue sky in the Mirror Erotomania- the entire picture, like the song is composed of parts of others BTW erotomania (n) - a strong sexual desire Voices - ??? Silent Man - a statue can't talk... The Mirror - the mirror Lie - ?? Lifting Shadows off a dream - The clouds disappear as you get higher, also the light of the mirror Scarred - like someone else said about the factory, or the baldness of the man in the mirror Space-Dye Vest - the space permeates half of the picture like the piano melody permeates half the album. Can anyone list all the parts of songs that show up in Erotomania? All I can find are the 5/4 "melody at the beginning which I think is in the background of voices and of course the melody from silent man. Maybe its only made up of music from AMBI. Thanks. M.A. VanOpstall email_address_removed ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 28 Feb 1995 17:40:29 -0500 (EST) From: zebrowski steven To: email_address_removed Subject: Pronunciation Message-ID: Hello, 'jammers! Whilst speaking w/ Mike Portnoy after the Hammerjacks' show in fall of '94 we mentioned the list and he said "Yeet-say Jam," giving all three syllables equal accent. Drummers. :) Most people are comfortable w/ Yeetsee. Hairball is right on in his big production and frequency post. Thanks to him for telling it like it is. I think Portnoy, Peart, and Zonder are all great. If you want another drummer who is all over the place, check out Sean Reinert from CYNIC. He's nuts! A lot of people have a lot of great opinions about the cover of Awake. Cool. I think John's bass on I&W and Awake is fine. I didn't before; all I could do was turn up the bass, but now I think that we miss it because it's so SUBTLE. You'll really miss it if it's not there. On the Denver, CO show from the Awake tour, there's a part at the end of LSOAD where the bass totally cuts outand MAMA can you tell. My brother is a bass player, and he and I have the same philosophy--You should only hear the bass if it's NOT there. As far as Myung's tones are concerned, yeah, he uses a real trebly tone live. Personally, I think that's to make the intonation and attack come through, because in a studio situation, he's got a million studio processors making the intonation come through w/o sacrificing low end. I think his studio ton is nice and meaty--it's like a bass drum with more definite pitch. His tone on WDADU even has a little overdrive on it; reminiscent of early Geddy Lee. I just have Sony CD10 headphones and a low-end Magnavox Portable CD player and w/ the bass boost on, when I listen to PMU, it's about all the bass a white boy can take! :) Keep 'jamming! Steve Z PS--ChucK, why do you capitalize the "K" at the end of yer name? Curious. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 28 Feb 1995 17:50:39 -0500 (EST) From: Andrew Keegan To: email_address_removed Cc: Multiple recipients of list Subject: Re: "Ytse"??? Message-ID: On Mon, 27 Feb 1995, Michael Bahr wrote: > > Going by what James says, it's "yit-say jam". > Actually- If you go by what James says, it's "YIITTTSSEEEE JAAAAAAAAMMMMM" Andy email_address_removed ============================================================== "Emancipate yourself from "There's only one way mental slavery, of life, None but ourselves can free And that's your own" our mind" - B. Marley - Levellers ============================================================== ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 28 Feb 1995 17:59:39 EST -0500 From: "Tom Cook" To: email_address_removed Subject: bunches o' stuff Message-ID: HOWDY THERE JAMMERS, I'M RELATIVELY NEW TO THE SYSTEM BUT HAVE LOTS TO TALK ABOUT. FIRST OF ALL, I PLAY GUITAR FAIRLY WELL AND I'VE FOUND THAT PLAYING DT SONGS ARE THE BEST WAY FOR EMOTIONAL RELEASE. I HEARD ABOUT DT AFTER IAW CAME OUT SO I ONLY HAVE THEIR TWO LATEST ALBUMS, QUITE DEPRESSING, AINT IT? ALSO, I REALIZE THAT PETRUCCI'S GUITAR, IF IT WERE TO COME OUT OF THE FACTORY WOULD HAVE A TONE ZONE BRIDGE PICKUP, DOES ANYONE KNOW IF HE USES FACTORY STUFF OR OTHER DiMARZIO'S?? ONE LAST QUESTION, DT DID NOT VISIT MOST OF THE EASTERN COAST ON THEIR AWAKE TOUR, ARE THEY SUPPOSED TO COME BACK AFTER EUROPE TO FINISH THEIR TOUR IN THE US?? ANYONE WITH ANY INFO, PLEASE E-MAIL ME THANX, TOM |> ^LOOK, IT'S MYUNG! "RAINDROPS TASTE LIKE TEARS, WITHOUT THE PAIN" QUEENSRHYCHE ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 28 Feb 1995 18:20:02 -0500 From: John B Ashcraft To: email_address_removed Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 723 Message-ID: The album that has the absolute best mix has got to be Rush Presto. You can hear each individual instrument prefectly!! Rupert Hine is a genius. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 27 Feb 1995 20:56:14 -0500 From: "Dan Tshin" To: email_address_removed Subject: YJ Regional Conventions Message-ID: BOB HOLDER wrote: >Ytse-con sounds fabulous regionally, something in Western NY or >Southern Ontario would kick! Yeah!! I'm in the Toronto Area and I'd really like to see one happen here. TTYL ---------------> Dan Tshin >>>>> email_address_removed <<<<<-----------"Ryche"-+ Shad Valley Carleton '94 SuRvIvOr | _ _ | Homepage URL: http://www.io.org/~danman | ( /V\ ) | "Peace comes through thinking with our hearts and not with | M | words. Until then we'll light another candle for this world."| | | The faithful live Awake/The rest remain misled-Dream Theatre | | | ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 28 Feb 1995 20:14:54 -0500 From: email_address_removed To: email_address_removed Cc: email_address_removed Subject: Kevin Demos Message-ID: Hmm, I appear to have missed the announcement for a Texas dub-site. Can someone near Austin e-mail me? Thank you! Also, What is Kevin (I assume it's him) saying in the backgrounds of his songs? I can hear bit and pieces, but most of it sounds like just mumbling! -Toaster (email_address_removed) ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 28 Feb 1995 20:43:39 -0600 (CST) From: Ricky Booth To: email_address_removed Subject: Re: DAVE GROHL SUCKS. thank you Message-ID: > lame country 4/4 beat, Dave Grohl coudn't keep up. (Actually, from > what I've heard, is that he's actually a good drummer behind the Yes, Dave Grohl is an accomplished drummer. I'd say he's average on my scale because I'm biased: I listen to DT and Rush... Compared to others though Grohl is average. > scenes of Nirvana). Even Green Day's drummer (and don't flame me for > this, you have to admit it) is pretty good. He has plenty of speed > which a drummer needs, it's just that his accuracy and selection of > which drums to hit isn't very good. Tre Cool KICKS ASS! He's drumming speed is inhumane! I'd say that he IS better than Grohl. I also wouldn't doubt it if his quickness was "chemically" induced. ;-) I mean come on, he's in GREEN DAY... > BTW, Portnoy is still THE drum god. Reference Raistlin Majere to > Takhisis, and... nevermind, save that for Dragonlance ftp... Yes, Portnoy is up there. (so says Astinus, recorder of all...) -- _ __ _____(_)____/ /__ #########/ Rick Booth; email_address_removed /~### / ___/ / ___/ //_/ #######/' "Loss of intrest, question, wonder /~##### / / / / /__/ ,< #####/' waves of fear, they pull me under." /~####### /_/ /_/\___/_/|_| ###/'_The Frayed Ends of Sanity_ / Metallica /~######### ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 28 Feb 1995 21:51:13 -0500 From: John B Ashcraft To: email_address_removed Subject: Dream Band Message-ID: >>>>>>I thought I'd add a little to the "Dream Band" thread. HERE'S MY DREAM BAND: Geddy Lee - Bass, Vocals, Keyboards Alex Lifeson - Guitar, Bass Pedals Neil Peart - Percussion It doesn't get any better than that! --John Spoken like a true genius! I couldn't agree more. Trey ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 28 Feb 1995 21:40:52 -0600 (CST) From: William Wright To: email_address_removed Subject: Re: DAVE GROHL SUCKS. thank you Message-ID: > BTW, Portnoy is still THE drum god. Reference Raistlin Majere to > Takhisis, and... nevermind, save that for Dragonlance ftp... Wow... another Dragon Lance fan... currently reading the Death Gate Cycle and loving it. All Ytsejam members who like to read should check out Dragon Lance books or The Death Gate Cycle. ------------------------------ End of YTSEJAM Digest 725 *************************