YTSEJAM Digest 717 Today's Topics: 1) Re: Quick, Serious Question... by "UG REIS CHARLES R" 2) various by Michael Burstin 3) T-shirts by email_address_removed (Brian Anderson) 4) more various stuff... by Hairball 5) Re: YTSEJAM digest 714 by email_address_removed (Asif I. Khan) 6) ATTENTION: TAPERS by email_address_removed (Dr. Mosh) 7) A Few Questions... by email_address_removed (Nypsie) 8) Re: More Longwinded Pointless Commentary! by email_address_removed (Dr. Mosh) 9) Re: Dream Concert by email_address_removed (Dr. Mosh) 10) Re: Majority of Subscribers by jbako01 11) Kev Demo Dub Site by Evan Thomson 12) Re: COVERS GIG TAPE EXISTS!!! by Ricky Booth 13) Re: Rush by email_address_removed (Zack Gemmill) 14) Re: DoE for sale by email_address_removed (Zack Gemmill) 15) Re: YTSEJAM digest 715 by John Ambrose 16) Mike P, Mike T, and Yes by email_address_removed (Mike Patrick) 17) Finally a lurker posts. by email_address_removed 18) Re: YTSEJAM digest 715 by email_address_removed (Zack Gemmill) 19) Finding DT Stuff (Re: A Few Questions...) by email_address_removed (Ken Bibb) 20) Re: Majority of Subscribers by email_address_removed (Ken Bibb) 21) more postage by Michael Van Opstall 22) Dream Theater and miscellany by email_address_removed 23) Re: [Bryan Pascuzzi: 1st time DT buyer] by Orlando Quiroz 24) Let's Rumble by Matt Leger 25) AOL, Providers, Prog COMPILATION TAPE by Michael Backof 26) Regional Ytsejam con for SE US by "Paul W. Cashman" ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Fri, 24 Feb 1995 08:39:33 MST From: "UG REIS CHARLES R" To: email_address_removed Subject: Re: Quick, Serious Question... Message-ID: >Excerpts from mail: 23-Feb-95 Quick, Serious Question... by "UG REIS >CHARLES R"@ucs. > Kevin Moore (w/Roger Waters backup) -- Keyboards ^^^^^^^^^^^^ >don't you mean Richard Wright? Or did waters take up piano >after leaving Floyd? >-max Shit... I know Waters played bass for PF, but he was also the person who wrote the keys for pretty much all of their songs, I believe. So, I know he could really put out some really good songs as long as he didn't play lead (I'm not sure if he could rip like Kev). I've heard his solo work is VERY good. Many good reviews about it. I hope that clears this up... ChucK ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 24 Feb 1995 13:21:30 -0500 (EST) From: Michael Burstin To: email_address_removed Subject: various Message-ID: Sorry for the length... > From: Shawna Lea of the Many Nicknames > Subject: Regional Ytse-gathers > > So who wants to meet in the Boston area...(someplace in boston that can > hold a lot of fans?) Well, I know that there are a decent number of us here from the get together that we had before the Providence show... and I am sure that there are more in Boston... I would definatly be up for a get together before the end of this school year somewhere here in Boston... (as long as it isn't during my spring breaks... ) > ------------------------------ > > From: Jean-nicolas Poussart > Subject: LaBrie > > Just in case anyone was interested, (this must have been mentioned > before, but...), James LaBrie used to sing for a Canadian band (I > believe) called Winter Rose...kinda cheesy stuff, like Poison, Ratt, There are a few of us that have copies of 2 of their shows... They really didn't sound too bad for a hard rock band... > ------------------------------ > > From: Timo Haanp{{ UPR > Subject: Derek Sherinian a member of DT!! > > James LaBrie announced yesterday that Derek Sherinian is now an > official member of Dream Theater!!!!! > Damn... well, at least we know that it won't take as long as it did for them to find James... Hopefully we'll be able to hear some of his influences in the next CD... I do think from the shows and jams that I have heard on various shows that he has what it takes to be a member of DT... > ------------------------------ > From: jerry@muc.de (Andreas Schaefer) > Subject: Derek Sherinian in Wayne's world! > and you can see him for less than a second (I guess 10-15 frames:-). > So this is enough to get mentioned in the credit.... > Yeah... I checked out the movie database a few weeks ago to see the credits for WW, and I saw him mentioned... -- +----------------------------------------+----------------+---------+ | And I'll smile and learn to pretend | Dream Theater | Michael | | And I'll never be open again | Space Dye Vest | Burstin | | And I'll have no more dreams to defend |-----Awake------+---------+ | And I'll never be open again | Pgh Penguins: 13-1-2 | +----------------------------------------+--------------------------+ For info about Dream Theater, finger email_address_removed http://cs.brandeis.edu/~mikeb/home.html ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 24 Feb 1995 14:59:17 -0500 From: email_address_removed (Brian Anderson) To: email_address_removed Subject: T-shirts Message-ID: Hello everyone, Just want to introduce myself. My name's Brian and I'm here at Penn State. I just subscribed last week so I'm pretty new to all of this. I'll keep this short, I'm interested in picking up an Ytsejam T-shirt. I was informed (thanks Babs) that Jason Giles is the man with the T's. So if your out there Jason, please send me some info, thanks. Later, Brian ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 24 Feb 1995 17:21:33 -0500 (EST) From: Hairball To: email_address_removed Subject: more various stuff... Message-ID: Regarding a DT cover band: I'd be into it, totally. However, there's a few problems: 1) I only have a 4 string bass, a 6 string guitar, and a crappy keyboard. 2) I live in Philly. Other Items: Whoever asked about interning, the guy who I know who interns for Elektra (which includes East/West) said "The best place to look is in the back of CMJ (College Music Journal), and the best way to get into it is to get involved with your college station." 'nuff said. Anyway, hope ya'll have a good one & you all call your Senators (you should have two, ya know...) and tell them how you feel about S314, "The Communications Decency Act of 1995," as posted in the last Ytsejam Digest. Take it light, cyas! ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 24 Feb 1995 17:47:24 -0500 From: email_address_removed (Asif I. Khan) To: email_address_removed Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 714 Message-ID: Hey folks! This is your I believe only pakistani subscriber to the JAM. Well, ive been playing drums for about 10 years or so, and hell, after playing rush, I thought naw,nobody's going to take Neil's place, musically, sonically, or creatively.....WHOA!!!!!!!! was I friggin' wrong there... Mike Portnoy is now THE MAN! to be reckoned with...Anyways my point in all of this concerns this YTSEJAM convention everyone keeps talking about...BTW I hope it does materialize...Id also like to see if us (grammar?) musicians on the list who attend this dream convention would like to put on some shows or two....WHAT DYALL' THINK ABOUT THAT? HHMMMM? I think it would be incredible....to see the influences of all our fav bands come together on stage for everybody to see.... Iv erecently been playing Surrounded, Under a Glass Moon, PMU, Another Day, and TTT off of I&W and Innocence Faded, Erotomania (i LOVE these two songs...) and Voices (unbelievable emotion in this song, whew!) and was wondering if there are guitarists, bassists and keyboardists who can play these as well.... OH and vocals too. Great list everybody, keep it turned all the way UP!!! Asif Khan "It was no pick! No pick I say!!!!" Seinfeld email_address_removed ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 24 Feb 1995 14:48:57 PST From: email_address_removed (Dr. Mosh) To: email_address_removed Subject: ATTENTION: TAPERS Message-ID: I have been viewing my recent bootlegs of FW and DT and noticed a few things... Those of you who plan to tape future shows on VIDEO TAPE mainly, please use mainly HYPER-CARDIOD mics or SHOTGUNS to cut out all the crowd noise, and I assure you, it will sound better! A little tip: Sony mics aren't all they're cracked up to be. -The Doc -- #$%*#$*@ REAL: email_address_removed + VIRTUAL: email_address_removed *@#$*@#$ *$%&%#$* The Dream Theater Archives: ftp.netcom.com: /pub/dr/drkhoe/dt &*@#$*@$ **%^$#$% WWW: "ftp://ftp.netcom.com/pub/dr/drkhoe/www/dthome.html" #$**@#*$ *$*$*$*# Reality Enhancement Software - Engineering Reality *$&#*#@$ ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 24 Feb 1995 15:48:29 -0600 From: email_address_removed (Nypsie) To: email_address_removed Subject: A Few Questions... Message-ID: Hey fellow Y-jammers, This is my first post, but I have been on the list since last October or so. I have a few questions for any of you who can answer: 1) I know that the front cover of Awake has symbols from each of the different songs. I know some of them, but there are a few that I have no clue on. I'm sure it's just that I am to blind to see them so I need help figuring them out. The ones I don't know are: Erotomania Voices Lie There are some I think I know, but would still like to hear some input! They are: LSOAD (Something to do with the color in the mirror compared to the black/gray color of the rest of picture?) Scarred (The land in the picture is barron?) Space-Dye Vest (Anything to do with the picture of Jupiter and stars?) 2) I have just seen a few people talking about this on the list, but I will ask it to see if I can get any others to answer this question. (This can also be something to get the thought jucies going on other songs. Yes, this can be a new topic.) What do people feel is the meaning behind Space-Dye Vest? I know Kevin wrote it, and he has a major Christian background. Did this have any bering on the lyrics? Now with people mentioning his past relationship--Discuss! 3) Finally, I am looking to increase my DT selection, but I go to school in a small town with no music store. I have tried to look at home for anything, but have come up with nothing. I am looking for any type of boots, singles... ANYTHING. What I would like to know is: 1) Where can I find more DT things (this can include imports and what not)? 2) What the cost is? 3) How good are they? I am looking to pick up the singles (older and newer), but I don't know where to find them. I live in the suburbs of the Twin Cities in Minnesota. Does any one have any suggestions on where I could look? Thanks for any and all info!! Nypsie ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 24 Feb 1995 15:56:40 PST From: email_address_removed (Dr. Mosh) To: email_address_removed Subject: Re: More Longwinded Pointless Commentary! Message-ID: Hairball SAID: <<<< John's bass sound was probably taken from a combination of a Direct Signal and miking his amp. How can I assume this? At every Dream Theater show I go to, I seem to wind up in front of his amp. =) It's a very thin, bright tone, but, considering the fact that he uses a 6 string bass, I can understand why.Any more bass in that thing would probably cause a speaker to pop out. That low B string's frequency tends to be so low that many stereo systems can't handle it, and apparently, most engineers don't know how to deal with it. (COMPRESS, COMPRESS, COMPRESS!) >>>> Overall, WDADU was horribly mixed anyways since it was Mr. Low Budget production. But on I&W and Awake, the bass tracks ARE compressed, but only for the bass track, as with digital mastering you don't need to compress the overall signal because of the incredible dynamic range and headroom (+100db), same goes for the drums, each track is compress seperately and then mixed down into the final mix. -The Doc -- #$%*#$*@ REAL: email_address_removed + VIRTUAL: email_address_removed *@#$*@#$ *$%&%#$* The Dream Theater Archives: ftp.netcom.com: /pub/dr/drkhoe/dt &*@#$*@$ **%^$#$% WWW: "ftp://ftp.netcom.com/pub/dr/drkhoe/www/dthome.html" #$**@#*$ *$*$*$*# Reality Enhancement Software - Engineering Reality *$&#*#@$ ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 24 Feb 1995 15:59:53 PST From: email_address_removed (Dr. Mosh) To: email_address_removed Subject: Re: Dream Concert Message-ID: How about just a real big PROG FEST... like Lollapaloozer except for progressive rock. we could have the following line-up: Queensryche, Rush, Dream Theater, Fates Warning, Yes, Marillion and tons of other bands to make like a two day fest that happens maybe like 4 times a year in different places. -The Doc -- #$%*#$*@ REAL: email_address_removed + VIRTUAL: email_address_removed *@#$*@#$ *$%&%#$* The Dream Theater Archives: ftp.netcom.com: /pub/dr/drkhoe/dt &*@#$*@$ **%^$#$% WWW: "ftp://ftp.netcom.com/pub/dr/drkhoe/www/dthome.html" #$**@#*$ *$*$*$*# Reality Enhancement Software - Engineering Reality *$&#*#@$ ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 24 Feb 1995 19:21:06 -0500 (EST) From: jbako01 To: email_address_removed Subject: Re: Majority of Subscribers Message-ID: On Fri, 24 Feb 1995, Ken Bibb wrote: > high level domain subscribers > .com 200 > .edu 342 > .mil 5 > others 196 > TOTAL 743 > > So the majority *are* at edu sites :) ^^^^^^^^ Actually, that's NOT a majority since it's less than half of the total number. Plurality (although it sounds stupid) is the word you're looking for. Later, James Bako email_address_removed Polytechnic University Brooklyn, New York ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 25 Feb 1995 12:23:34 +1100 (EDT) From: Evan Thomson To: email_address_removed Subject: Kev Demo Dub Site Message-ID: Howdy everyone, Just dropping a line to let everyone in Australia (and New Zealand I suppose) know that I have Kevin Moore's demo tape and will be dubbing for about 10-15 people depending on my spare time... so mail me at email_address_removed.oz.au P.S. If possible I'd prefer to trade for Boots, or good stuff :) Evan "...and whatever rhymes with eloquent" - Mr Knowitall (PRIMUS) ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 24 Feb 1995 20:30:07 -0600 (CST) From: Ricky Booth To: email_address_removed Subject: Re: COVERS GIG TAPE EXISTS!!! Message-ID: > YES!!! i found someone who taped the entire 1/31/95 covers gig in london!! > > show was taped on a sony D3 analog pro walkman, and i am getting a > first gen in the mail sometime in the next week or two!! yes... Excellent! So, I don't know much about taping. Is a "sony D3 analog pro walkman" good? Do you know if the sound quality is good? > as soon as i get the tape, i will make it readily available for anyone > that wants it at a 2:1 blank trade ratio. Count me in. After I send my 5 bucks to Mike Bahr in Arizona I'll definatly want to trade with you. The covers gig is definatly worth that extra tape. Later... -- _ __ _____(_)____/ /__ #########/ Rick Booth; email_address_removed /~### / ___/ / ___/ //_/ #######/' "Loss of intrest, question, wonder /~##### / / / / /__/ ,< #####/' waves of fear, they pull me under." /~####### /_/ /_/\___/_/|_| ###/'_The Frayed Ends of Sanity_ / Metallica /~######### ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 24 Feb 95 18:38:56 PST From: email_address_removed (Zack Gemmill) To: email_address_removed Subject: Re: Rush Message-ID: > > Somebody had in their signature a quote from Rush which said: > > "Sometimes our big splashes are just ripples in the pool" > > Can anyone tell me what Rush song this quote is in? > > > Brandon Emotion Detector (Power Windows). Z. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 24 Feb 95 18:40:38 PST From: email_address_removed (Zack Gemmill) To: email_address_removed Subject: Re: DoE for sale Message-ID: > > Hi all, > > Since I will soon be be getting another copy of Dance of > Eternity (thanks Mike), I am going to sell my current copy. > > Anyone interested, I'm selling it for $35 including shipping. > > Email me if interested. > > Mike. What is the purpose of this? Z. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 24 Feb 95 22:04:22 EST From: John Ambrose To: email_address_removed Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 715 Message-ID: The Rush quote: "Sometimes our big splashes are just ripples in the pool" is from "Emotion Detector" on _Power Windows_. --John ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 24 Feb 1995 22:06:38 -0500 From: email_address_removed (Mike Patrick) To: email_address_removed Subject: Mike P, Mike T, and Yes Message-ID: One last word on the Mike P/Mike Tyson thing - Tyson is in prison in a town near Indianapolis. Hence the sign. He's also getting out in March (hide your daughters) so Mike P is probably beside himself with glee. Second of all, let me just say that as an old AND new Yes fan, TREVOR RABIN IS A GOD. And if you don't think so...hmmm...I don't really give a fuck. Mike Patrick email_address_removed "In case you haven't noticed, Mr. Mulder, the Statue of Liberty is on vacation." ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 25 Feb 1995 00:06:35 -0500 From: email_address_removed To: email_address_removed Subject: Finally a lurker posts. Message-ID: This is my first post here (as if you all care). But I really enjoy reading the Ytse. I've been a fan since I first heard Status Seeker, when it came out. I did a metal radio show at Univ. Wis.-Platteville. I've got the single for it. (just the naked guy's armpit on the CD) Now I do a metal show in Madison, WI at WORT. I always manage to play a DT song every week on my show. Usually one of the heavier ones. Thanks to AOL (I'm not one of those internet morons) I can read the DT message boards and get the YtseJam. I have learned which boots to buy. I've got 4 boots and all of the "regular" releases. Sorry for self-indulging. I posted something about a Letterman appearance in AOL. I had a dream that DT played on Letterman the same night as Megadeth. I don't know what they played. But wouldn't Paul Schaffer sound good with DT? Thanks all Matt ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 24 Feb 95 21:09:29 PST From: email_address_removed (Zack Gemmill) To: email_address_removed Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 715 Message-ID: > > Maybe its me but would anyone like to hear more improvised stuff from John > Pretucci... we all know his compositional solos are awesome... but I think it > would be nice to hear him occasionally improvise over some of the songs, > considering the time changes, modal changes etc... the results would be quite > interesting... anyone know why he doesn't improvise more? > > > alex. (because he can't?) This makes me wonder how much time he and Derek spent composing the jams that they are performing on this tour. Perhaps some of the European 'jammers could ask if they get the chance? Zach ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 24 Feb 1995 22:04:08 +0800 From: email_address_removed (Ken Bibb) To: email_address_removed Subject: Finding DT Stuff (Re: A Few Questions...) Message-ID: > From: email_address_removed (Nypsie) > > 3) Finally, I am looking to increase my DT selection, but I go to > school in a small town with no music store. I have tried to look at > home for anything, but have come up with nothing. I am looking for any > type of boots, singles... ANYTHING. What I would like to know is: > 1) Where can I find more DT things (this can include imports and what > not)? 2) What the cost is? 3) How good are they? I am looking to > pick up the singles (older and newer), but I don't know where to find > them. I live in the suburbs of the Twin Cities in Minnesota. Does any > one have any suggestions on where I could look? Send an email message: get ph7 faq2.mailorder to ytsejam-request@arastar.com with a subject of "asdf". You'll get back a copy of the Progressive Rock Mail Order Sources file--it's a list of sources for getting Progressive Rock Boots, singles, imports, etc. -- Ken Bibb "Upon a wave of summer email_address_removed A hilltop paved with gold email_address_removed We shut our eyes and make the promises we hold" David Sylvian--"Wave" ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 24 Feb 1995 22:07:12 +0800 From: email_address_removed (Ken Bibb) To: email_address_removed Subject: Re: Majority of Subscribers Message-ID: > From: jbako01 > > > So the majority *are* at edu sites :) > > Actually, that's NOT a majority since it's less than half of the total > number. Plurality (although it sounds stupid) is the word you're looking for. OK, so I made a mistake :) A plurality are at edu sites (at this moment, anyway). -- Ken Bibb "Upon a wave of summer email_address_removed A hilltop paved with gold email_address_removed We shut our eyes and make the promises we hold" David Sylvian--"Wave" ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 24 Feb 1995 22:38:20 -0500 (EST) From: Michael Van Opstall To: email_address_removed Subject: more postage Message-ID: Hola ytsejammers. I'm back to say to whoever asked that there is a transcription of Lie on the nevada guitar archive. I am currently working on a transcription of 6:00 if anyone is interested. Also, you can join my mailing list to get a semi-humorous newsletter every weekday. It's called the Don Digest, and is hook-up-able by sending e-mail to email_address_removed, with subject line dondigest and text: subscribe dondigest fname lname where fname and lname are your first and last names. You'll be sent info with a survey in it and the first available issue. Piece in the Would. M.A. VanOpstall email_address_removed ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 24 Feb 1995 23:38:04 -0500 From: email_address_removed To: email_address_removed Subject: Dream Theater and miscellany Message-ID: Hello, all! I have several questions, both relating to Dream Theater, and not. I know that you guys and gals are good at having all the answers. First the Dream Theater related question... I'm interested in aquiring the date and venue/locale of the following concert albums (things in my possession currently, or soon to be!): "Lost in the Sky" "Lords of Sound" "Live at the Marquee" "Kick Into a Dream" "Dance of Eternity" ----- I know it's been mentioned here before, but would someone kindly provide me with the address for "Screaming in Digital," the Queensryche mailing list? ----- Anyone hear of the band Tyketto? This was suggested to me, but I don't know anything about them, what their genre of music is... ----- Since some of you guys and gals were so good with the out-of-print Marillion and Pretty Maids, what about the band Fifth Angel? I have in my possession the self-titled album and "Time Will Tell." Is there anything else? How could I go about obtaining it? ----- TIA Jen -- "Could we see clearer in a virtual reality?" - Magellan "I am the beat of your pulse/the computer word made flesh" - Queensryche email_address_removed email_address_removed ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 24 Feb 1995 23:38:40 -0500 (EST) From: Orlando Quiroz To: email_address_removed Subject: Re: [Bryan Pascuzzi: 1st time DT buyer] Message-ID: Hi Bryan, Just to let you know, BMG lists Dream Theater's "Awake" as their SOPHOMORE effort meaning that they would have Images And Words as their debut album. So the point of this trivial bit of info is that there is still a debut album out there for you to grab! Orlando ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 24 Feb 1995 23:48:47 -0500 (EST) From: Matt Leger To: email_address_removed Cc: Multiple recipients of list Subject: Let's Rumble Message-ID: On Fri, 24 Feb 1995, Ricky Booth wrote: > > of "the ytse jam" on the LiT video, there's a sample that says: "Let's > > get ready to rumble!!!" Well, i was watching the tuesday night fights > > last week and heard this exact same voice at the beginning of the fight. > > Yes, it's traditional to say before fights "LLLLllllet's get ready to > rummmmmmble!" Most refs have their own style of saying but they all say > it... > I always thought that this came from the t.v. show "Grudge Match", where people get to kick the shit out of each other over stupid quarrels.... Who knows.... Later, Matt ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 25 Feb 1995 01:55:29 -0500 From: Michael Backof To: email_address_removed Subject: AOL, Providers, Prog COMPILATION TAPE Message-ID: Wake UP!!! How is everyone? Onto the topics at hand Providers --------- Well guess what, those of us with .edu accounts do pay for our access through too methods, tuition and taxes (gotta love them) true, if the costs were direct instead of indirect I would use my account more sparingly. Second, there are some quality .aol users and there are some lousy ones. Same with any domain, the only time I got flamed was by someone on a .com who flamed me for having a stupid last name. This by no means says that people with .com backgrounds are all like this, the topic should be dropped. Ytse Cons --------- I agree that we should go regional. I would travel pretty much anywhere along the east coast of the USA to get to the con so count me in if there is one out here. I think the cover band idea is good plus we could have people playing stuff from their live collections, memorabilia (I don't know what this would consist of), and just general discussion. I'd be interested in seeing anyone's idea for content of the Cons. PROG-METAL Compilation tape --------------------------- I decided that I would put together a Prog-Rock-Metal compilation tape from my collect together for the first 10 people who respond to my message. These will be customized to your tastes and will be on a 90min high bias TDK tape with liner and info on how to get the actual CDs if you are interested in hearing more. E-mail me at email_address_removed and put COMPILATION TAPE in the subject and I will mail you my information form that has all of my prog albums listed. Mind you this will not cost you anything but the time to fill out the message I send you. I will post to the digest when I have enough requests. My motivations are simply to help out the bands I love by promoting them and keeping them around to make more albums and hopefully giving the listener something he or she can enjoy, plus expose them to new aspects of music. Later, Mike email_address_removed ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 24 Feb 1995 23:09:46 -0800 (PST) From: "Paul W. Cashman" To: email_address_removed Subject: Regional Ytsejam con for SE US Message-ID: I'd certainly help to organize a get-together somewhere in the Southeast if there's any interest. I'm in Atlanta, GA, which is pretty easy to get to from most of the Southeast. I was thinking of combining it with the bimonthly record show that's held here -- not that there's always DT stuff there, but it's a good start to a weekend of DT-shopping and gabbing. :) To the newcomer who asked if DT is worth seeing live: I flew from here up to Detroit Michigan to see DT during the first part of the Awake tour. It cost me a bit over $300 including airfare, but I was determined to see them early in the tour and I'd missed the I&W tour. It was worth every penny! My only regret was that my local guide wanted to bug out before the band came out to meet'n'greet, and I missed meeting them. -- Seen my diary on the newsstand | Paul W. Cashman Seems we've lost the truth to quicksand | email_address_removed It's a shame no-one is praying | Dream Theater "Voices" 'Cause these voices in my head keep sayin'.."Love, just don't stare." ------------------------------ End of YTSEJAM Digest 717 *************************