YTSEJAM Digest 711 Today's Topics: 1) Re: spelling by email_address_removed (John Jens, Jr.) 2) Re: corruption in the goat herd by William T Bajzek 3) FYI:TAB books in Japan by "T.Higuchi-Marketing Training" 4) Re: corruption in the goat herd by Ricky Booth 5) Don`t Look Past Me by email_address_removed.de (Ties Goebel) 6) ytse-jam-t-shirt by email_address_removed.de (Bernd Basmer) 7) Re: James Joyce by "PAUL PERGER" 8) Re: Fwd: JESTER by Greg "Big Brother" Lee 9) Re: Ytse Convention by email_address_removed.de (Bernd Basmer) 10) Re: YTSEJAM digest 710 by Hairball 11) buttheads and get-togethers by John Mastin 12) Fwd: JESTER by "UG REIS CHARLES R" 13) Dream Theater not Dream Theatre by email_address_removed (Paul Beresford) 14) Hey DT FANS!! by "UG REIS CHARLES R" 15) Other Thoughts... by Hairball 16) corruption in the goat herd by "UG REIS CHARLES R" 17) Re: My Reviews by "UG REIS CHARLES R" 18) DT will always Headline....I hope! by STEVE SMITS 19) Re: YTSEJAM digest 710 by scott eric bell 20) Re: DT on Howard Stern!! by jbako01 21) Re: corruption in the goat herd by John B Ashcraft 22) Thoughts . . . by "Brian J. Wherry" 23) DT reference in my school newspaper... by Michael Burstin 24) Ytse Con, Other bands, Yes, etc... by Michael Backof ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Wed, 22 Feb 1995 02:28:22 -0500 From: email_address_removed (John Jens, Jr.) To: email_address_removed Subject: Re: spelling Message-ID: >> > Guess what?! No one at my ENTIRE school has ever heard of Dream >> > Theatre!!! Doesn't That Suck! >> ^^^^^^^ >> >> This IS the way it was spelt on the inside of the WDADU packaging. I think it >> was at the start of the lyrics for A Fortune In Lies . . . it said >> >> 'Music By Dream Theatre' > >This is also the way Fates Warning spells it in their "Special >Thanks to:" column on their Parallels album. Kinda funny, eh? > > Chuck hmm....i wonder why Fates is spelled Fatez Warning(Jus'kiddin'!!) in I&W? anyone? anyone? later, again, john ............................................................................... John C. Jens, Jr. "You could make a choice, email_address_removed but you never learned to think." http://www.site.gmu.edu/~jjens/ -Fates Warning ............................................................................... ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 22 Feb 1995 07:33:44 -0500 (EST) From: William T Bajzek To: email_address_removed Subject: Re: corruption in the goat herd Message-ID: This space left intentionally blank Organization: Aepithex (guitars) email_address_removed writes: > Sloppyjoe69 ^^ says it all right there. but you sleep like a ghost with me -william bajzek- come to my madness its as simple as that -http://www.contrib.andrew.cmu.edu- my opium den so tell me i'm mad -/u/wb2a/home--/cdsale-/reviews- come to my madness roll me up and breathe me in -guitars,aepithex- make sense of it again ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 22 Feb 1995 21:57:44 +0900 From: "T.Higuchi-Marketing Training" To: email_address_removed Subject: FYI:TAB books in Japan Message-ID: Well, a few enthusiatic guys gave me several questions about the TAB books available in Japan. (Especially Brandon! :-) I'd like to summarize the informations of the books, but I'm not ready for your requests to send these to overseas. I'm too busy now. Even if you send me such requests, it will be stacked in one of my e-mail folders, sorry. (I have 939 ytsejam messages unread in my e-mail folders :-( T.Higuchi ------------------------------------------------------------------- In general, - those books are written by anonymous musicians in Japan - full band score(guitar, vocal, keyboard, bass, drums) - not all of the songs are included. see below list in detail. - guitar and bass have both notation and tab - those are distributed in Japan only, because of its legal agreement, I guess. - comments are written in Japanese, but not much comments - currency is $1=97yen or so now. In Awake book, - 7 string guitar is converted to 6. And also one octave higher than real notes, so it is recommended in the Japanese comments to use pitch-shifter(or octaver). - 6 string bass is also converted to 4, and one octave higher, so also need pitch-shifter(or octaver). ------------------------------------------------------------------- When Dream And Day Unite(ISBN4-401-34751-X) 2,987Yen A Fortune In Lies Status Seeker Ytsejam The Killing Hand Afterlife Only A Matter Of Time Images And Words(ISBN4-401-34738-2) 2,987Yen Pull Me Under Another Day Take The Time Surrounded Metropolis-part I Under A Glass Moon Wait For Sleep Awake(ISBN4-401-34804-4) 3,502Yen 6:00 Caught In A Web Innocence Faded Erotomania Voices The Silent Man Lie Lifting Shadows Off A Dream Scarred Space Dye Vest ------------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 22 Feb 1995 07:34:30 -0600 (CST) From: Ricky Booth To: email_address_removed Subject: Re: corruption in the goat herd Message-ID: > third, there is a tendency to "ride the bandwagon" in regard to new material [SLANDERING OF AWAKE DELATED] > because it is truth. > > you all have failed the human litmus test. i hate you and i hope die. You know, I actually thought this post meant something, I actually thought it had content of some sort, a real opinion. Ah, but you see, it comes from AOL. Nevermind. -- _ __ _____(_)____/ /__ #########/ Rick Booth; email_address_removed /~### / ___/ / ___/ //_/ #######/' "Loss of intrest, question, wonder /~##### / / / / /__/ ,< #####/' waves of fear, they pull me under." /~####### /_/ /_/\___/_/|_| ###/'_The Frayed Ends of Sanity_ / Metallica /~######### ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 22 Feb 95 11:36 MET From: email_address_removed.de (Ties Goebel) To: email_address_removed Subject: Don`t Look Past Me Message-ID: Who wrote "Don`t Look Past Me" ??? Ties ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 22 Feb 95 13:06:18 +0100 From: email_address_removed.de (Bernd Basmer) To: email_address_removed Subject: ytse-jam-t-shirt Message-ID: Hi all! Well, there's another question. A few digests before (can't remember the number of it...) somebody wrote that James LaBrie wore an YTSEJAM-T-SHIRT. Is there an official T-shirt for the subscribers of this list??? If yes, where can I get it? Bye. Bernd. ********************************************************************** Life is a show. And the show must go on... ********************************************************************** \||/ email_address_removed.de Bernd Basmer -00- Zentrum fuer Informations- und -__- Kommunikationstechnik -______- Homburg / Saar Tel.: 06841/162166 Fax.: 06841/162463 ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 22 Feb 1995 14:46:10 +0100 From: "PAUL PERGER" To: email_address_removed Subject: Re: James Joyce Message-ID: > From: email_address_removed (Ken Bibb) > > 6:00 (Dubliners "The Dead") > Hi, Jammers, my name is Paul and I'm quite new to this list - in fact I've been reading your contributions for a few weeks - and got to know that I'm not the first Austrian jammer - Servus! about Joyce: Is it possible that the quotes "6 o'clock on a Xmas morning" and "I know all about the honour of God, Mary Jane" are samples from the film "The Dead" by John Huston? The voices sounded very familiar to me when I saw the film two weeks ago. Have fun, Paul PS: I saw DT in Munic - fantastic show! +----------------------------------------------------------+ | Paul Perger, Woergl, Tyrol, Austria, Europe | | E-Mail: paul.perger@uibk.ac.at | | | | Maybe this world is another planet's Hell. (A.H.) | +----------------------------------------------------------+ ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 22 Feb 95 8:56:48 EST From: Greg "Big Brother" Lee To: email_address_removed Subject: Re: Fwd: JESTER Message-ID: > I JUST WANT TO SAY HI TO ALL DT FANS AND THAT I'M A NEW SUBSCRIBER. > > I JUST WANT TO SHARE SOME INFO ON MY BAND JESTER, WE'RE A FOUR PIECE BAND > FROM WINDSOR ONTARIO (CANADA) , WE'VE BEEN TOGETHER FOR SIX YEARS WITH > THE SAME LINE UP AND TOURED ACROSS CANADA AND THE UNITED STATES . WE'RE > CURRENTLY SIGNED WITH MEGA ROCK, A COMPANY FROM SWEDEN, AND HAVE > DISTRIBUTION ACROSS EUROPE AND JAPAN. IN EUROPEAN MAGS. THE REVIEWS SAY > WE COMPARE WITH JOURNEY, RUSH, QUEENSRYCHE AND DREAM THEATRE. WE GOT VERY > GOOD RATINGS ON OUR CD TITLED"IT'S TIME" . IF YOU WANT TO KNOW MORE INFO > ON THE BAND THEN YOU CAN E-MAIL AT MY PERSONAL ADDRESS ( > email_address_removed) OR MY BANDS (email_address_removed). IF ANY > ONE HAS SEEN US PLAY IN THE STATES PLEASE E-MAIL ME > > LATER , PAUL BERESFORD Hey Will! Remember these guys! Hey Paul, my buddy Will on this list out at U of Calgary and I saw you guys at The Gasworks a few years back playing a lot of Rush and Queensryche etc...a few decent sounding originals too. Stop spelling Dream Theater wrong or we wont buy your CD! We kept waiting for another appearance, but we must have missed it. For all of you Wayne's World fans, yes, the Gasworks does exist! It is a real bar...although I think it is hurting after renovating it from the old grungy, skanky, head bangin' biker look! Greg. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 22 Feb 95 14:51:34 +0100 From: email_address_removed.de (Bernd Basmer) To: email_address_removed Subject: Re: Ytse Convention Message-ID: > >Date: Tue, 21 Feb 1995 14:04:11 -0500 (EST) >From: email_address_removed >To: email_address_removed >Subject: Ytse Convention >Message-ID: > >Hello ytsejammers, it's Babs. So far the response to my idea about a >convention has been positive. I am still looking for lots of ideas/feedback. >One ytse has suggested the possibility of having a ytsejam trade-show >someplace to get everybody there and if the response is good, warrant a >private show from DT for the ytse's and their significant others. I >wonder if the guys would perform gratis (I know that that is considered a >swear word to some bands, but isn't it for the love of music - not the cash?) >Airdance if you are reading this, what do you think. Kick it over with the >guys, do you think that we could get Kevin to come too? Feedback everyone, >I need feedback!!!!!!!!!!! :) -BABS > > Oh, all you lucky people sitting in the U.S.A. and going to meet eachother. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 22 Feb 1995 09:53:07 -0500 (EST) From: Hairball To: email_address_removed Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 710 Message-ID: > From: Tymoteusz Altman > Subject: Re: DT on Howard Stern!! > since dt is from the NY area (for the most part), why doesn't some > latenight talkshow ask them to be on...somone like Letterman for > example? that would be cool... Probably because their songs are too long. =) > I JUST WANT TO SAY HI TO ALL DT FANS AND THAT I'M A NEW SUBSCRIBER. > LATER , PAUL BERESFORD And I just want to say that typing in all caps is annoying. =) > _Awake_ is the ultimate in generic progressive metal and the kevin > moore demos truly eat it, yet these sheep praise them endlessly just > like they were "the emperor's new clothes." > Sloppyjoe69 To quote Mike Portnoy: "We never set out to be a progressive band." (from an interview I did with him via the phone about two years ago.) Additionally, I should add that when I was back on FidoNet's Prog/Rock SiG, I removed myself because the operator felt that Dream Theater was NOT a progressive band, just a metal band with good chops. And, besides that, they didn't come out in the '60's or '70's, so, they weren't. Silly, eh? So, I ask you: what specifically do you find "generic" about it? What, that there's time signature changes, key changes, strange chord voicings, extended jams, tempo changes? That's just a partial definition of what "progressive rock" is. I mean, let's get serious here - there's only so many boundaries that can be broken. If you look at Zappa's truly wierd Synclavier work ("G-Spot Tornado" and the like), you have to realize the only way it COULD be realized was WITH a computer. Humans are only so capable, even Zappa's musicians - believe me, Frank didn't play with any wankers. Something "original" in a world where everything's been done before? I mean, come on! That guy who did that song "I love you period" (Dan something or other...) was asked why his songs were so simple and similar to each other. His reply: "Well, there's only 12 notes that can be used. How many ways can you rearrange them? And chances are, if YOU think of it, someone else already has." Besides, like I always say: If you don't like it, do better. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 22 Feb 1995 09:36:04 -0500 From: John Mastin To: email_address_removed Subject: buttheads and get-togethers Message-ID: <199502221436.JAA23908@cybertron> I think Babs has a good idea. Eventhough it may not be possible for a national get-together but why not regionals?! Long Island sounds OK for me. I live in NJ and would take the road trip. I have a friend that would go too. He was the one who got me hooked into DT. I print out everyday's Ytsejams so that he can read them and keep up on what it going on. He doesn't have a computer nor Internet access but I guess you could say that he is a member! It would be nice to put some faces to the people we email to. :D As for the high brow butthead who called us all mindless sheep, undoubtedly, you did this to start a flame war. I am one of your pseudo-intellectuals but at least I am intelligent enough not to fall for your childish-temper-tantrum- for-attention. You probably already unsubscribed. You great mastermind you. Nothing like running into a crowded fire and yelling *Theatre!* Ha, ha, ha. In case you didn't know, that was a joke, just like your post, IMHO. Yeah, I think I can go and jump off of a bridge just because somebody who calls themself *Sloppyjoe69* says that they hate me and I should die. The Ytsejam is presented as an open forum in which people can express the thoughts and ideas that impact them. The common thread that we ALL share is that we are all fans of Dream Theater. You, *Sloppyjoe69*, have failed the common human decency test. I don't hate you but I think that if you are that unhappy, you should think about unsubscribing. Regards, Johnny (as known to my friends on Ytsejam or for you highbrows, John Mastin, Jr.) ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 22 Feb 1995 07:55:51 MST From: "UG REIS CHARLES R" To: email_address_removed Subject: Fwd: JESTER Message-ID: >I JUST WANT TO SHARE SOME INFO ON MY BAND JESTER, WE'RE A FOUR PIECE >BAND FROM WINDSOR ONTARIO (CANADA) , WE'VE BEEN TOGETHER FOR SIX >YEARS WITH THE SAME LINE UP AND TOURED ACROSS CANADA AND THE UNITED >STATES . WE'RE CURRENTLY SIGNED WITH MEGA ROCK, A COMPANY FROM >SWEDEN, AND HAVE DISTRIBUTION ACROSS EUROPE AND JAPAN. IN EUROPEAN >MAGS. THE REVIEWS SAY WE COMPARE WITH JOURNEY, RUSH, QUEENSRYCHE AND >DREAM THEATRE. WE GOT VERY GOOD RATINGS ON OUR CD TITLED"IT'S TIME" ^^^^^^^ >. IF YOU WANT TO KNOW MORE INFO ON THE BAND THEN YOU CAN E-MAIL AT >MY PERSONAL ADDRESS (email_address_removed) OR MY BANDS >(email_address_removed). IF ANY ONE HAS SEEN US PLAY IN THE STATES >PLEASE E-MAIL ME >LATER , PAUL BERESFORD Welcome aboard, Paul! I do believe I have heard of your band, I can't remember where... Have you ever toured in the Northwestern US? BTW, don't spell Dream Theatre this way. John Petrucci doesn't like it. (Sorry about flaming you on your first post). You'll see many people get hacked for this one in the future. Chuck ------------------------------ Date: 22 Feb 95 09:53:44 EST From: email_address_removed (Paul Beresford) To: email_address_removed Subject: Dream Theater not Dream Theatre Message-ID: <44424B2F016C1173@-SMF-> Sorry for the spelling error was in a hurry to send message out , should of proof read first . I will next time since everyone gets upset about that kind of thing. Later , Paul ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 22 Feb 1995 08:01:01 MST From: "UG REIS CHARLES R" To: email_address_removed Subject: Hey DT FANS!! Message-ID: >-I've heard so many good things about Fates Warning, but I've never >listen to them, so if I like MARILLION, DREAM THEATER, CAMEL, YES, >and similar bands which recording of FW do you recommend? >Thanks guys!!!! >Andy The only FW album I have heard and liked so far is Parallels. I can't stand their earlier stuff. I haven't heard their latest, either, but I really love Parallels. I've listened to it over and over again since I bought it two days ago. (Hey, it has JAmes LaBrie doing backups on Life in the Still Water, too) ChucK ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 22 Feb 1995 10:03:34 -0500 (EST) From: Hairball To: email_address_removed Subject: Other Thoughts... Message-ID: One of the things I found interesting about the LiT video were the band's comments about how "Another Day" hadn't been accepted by MTV. Why? Well, the third time I talked to Mike, some label person was trying to shoosh everyone out, because they had the video in the bus. Now, THAT would've been cool, but, no. =) ANYWAY: Why I originally started saying this has escaped me, but, suffice it to say that "AWAKE"'s heaviness did not suprise me in the least. I should've really seen it coming after the video (and especially that intro of TTT winding up turning into "The Mirror"). I'll share a little label info with ya'll: They're not happy with their current sale rate. However, if they'd picked a different single, things might've turned out better. I got a copy of the album back in the 1st week of september, '94. Nice to have friends who intern for their label, eh? Anyway, I listened through it, and pretty much thought that "Innocence Faded," or "6:00" would be great lead off singles, followed by maybe "Caught In A Web" and "The Silent Man." Well, once again, Atlantic makes a bad call. They took what they percieved to be the 'heaviest' yet still 'commercially viable' song, and put it out. Now, what they, in their infinite wisdom, and constant attempts to bend over for MTV, did not see was the fact that most of the people who buy DT albums are hard-core DT fans. Here they come, out with this song that, honestly, is among my least favorite on the album, and my roommate tells me, "They're ripping 'Lie' to shreds! They think it sucks!" Oh, those brilliant people. =) I should go get a job at one of those labels. Look what's coming out as the next single. Ah, THAT'S why I started writing this! I knew I'd remember. =) ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 22 Feb 1995 08:25:23 MST From: "UG REIS CHARLES R" To: email_address_removed Subject: corruption in the goat herd Message-ID: >furthermore, i have noticed a movement on this list which praises >mediocre material (i.e. bon jovi, extreme, and van halen) with no >relation to DT while talented musicians nlike cynic, thought industry >and others remain conveniently ignored. >third, there is a tendency to "ride the bandwagon" in regard to new >material related to DT. for example, _Awake_ is the ultimate in >generic progressive metal and the kevin moore demos truly eat it, yet >these sheep praise them endlessly just like they were "the emperor's >new clothes." god forbid that anyone should bring up any topic which >portays these prog-metal gods in a bad light. I am not afraid to say >that these are shitty pieces of music because it is truth. >you all have failed the human litmus test. i hate you and i hope die. Okay. This was a rather interesting post. Unfortunately, you offended me Mr. Sloppyjoe69. I understand your concern for the lacking DT material in many of our posts. We do talk about other bands when information on the focus of our list is lacking information. It just so happens that we enjoy listening to these bands as much as we enjoy listening to Dream Theater and would also like to discuss them among one another. Now, the flaming begins. First, upon my rebuttal, I have to ask... What in the FUCK are you doing on this list, then?!? If you don't like any of Dream Theater's music, don't join the Dream Theater mailing list. Use common sense. Don't call us sheep because we ALL enjoy the same thing. Fuck you. I bought Awake long before and enjoyed it also long before I joined this mailing list. I bought it despite the fact that I was one of the only people within the nearest 100 mile radius to have even listened to Dream Theater. I believe most of us can give you the same response. If this was just a post for you to piss us all off, I think you really did it. If you think Awake is shitty music, that's your problem. You have about as open a mind as I do (re: the Fates Warning post). I'm not going to say anything for that. I'm not going to flame you for telling us Dream Theater is shitty music. But if you think we should be talking about all of these DT poser bands that have not been able to make it anywhere as of yet (Maybe because they suck? I don't know), you should start the talking, not expect us to just bring them up. (an angry tirade follows, but it would just bore the rest of you and become a 20 page long post). Going off, ChucK ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 22 Feb 1995 08:28:05 MST From: "UG REIS CHARLES R" To: email_address_removed Subject: Re: My Reviews Message-ID: >You blew it Chuck. These two are way down on the list of Yes albums. >When you wake up, go buy Close To The Edge or Relayer >Andy I figured as much. I just bought these cuz I found them in the $3.00 bin at my local music store. I still like 'em tho. Now searching for the earlier albums.... ChucK ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 22 Feb 1995 09:30:21 -0600 (CST) From: STEVE SMITS To: email_address_removed Subject: DT will always Headline....I hope! Message-ID: Date sent: 22-FEB-1995 09:23:45 I could not support DT opening for anyone on their next US tour. I don't care if they opened for really cool bands like Rush, Yes, King Crimson, or Pink Floyd....it would still suck. (Yes and Floyd don't have openers anyway) They Must start the next tour in April and continue on through the summer, playing outdoors a bit more when possible....headlining with a half way decent opener. (So long as it isn't I Mother Earth again) That's the way I want it to be anyway. It'd be cool if they did SNL. That'd make me watch that show again....the writers are horrible this year. ******************************************************************************** * * "All my life they said I was going down, * But I'm still standing, stronger, proud. * And today I know there's so much more I can be." * - Someone Else? - Queensryche 1994 * * *** Always interested in trading Kansas shows *** * Steve Smits email_address_removed ******************************************************************************** ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 22 Feb 1995 10:53:39 -0400 (EST) From: scott eric bell To: email_address_removed Cc: Multiple recipients of list Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 710 Message-ID: Ok ok ok.... I've sat back and watched for ahwile now.... Yes, I am on the Megadeth list...but I am not going to flame you all for wanting to have a Ytse convention or get-together....because frankly, it's a great idea. I've been getting (or in the process of) together with many of my friends from the 'deth list....and it had worked out great. It is a great opportunity to actually meet who you are talking to. So if it works out for you guys...great. No flames headed your way from me...... Scott ***************************************************** * Scott E. Bell * * email: email_address_removed * * Homepage: http://silver.ucs.indiana.edu/~scebell * * * ***************************************************** * * * "Sometimes our big splashes * * Are just ripples in the pool" * * * * -Neil Peart * * * ***************************************************** ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 22 Feb 1995 11:13:43 -0500 (EST) From: jbako01 To: email_address_removed Subject: Re: DT on Howard Stern!! Message-ID: On Wed, 22 Feb 1995, Tymoteusz Altman wrote: > this also got me thinking. > since dt is from the NY area (for the most part), why doesn't some > latenight talkshow ask them to be on...somone like Letterman for > example? that would be cool... Because if you wan't to be on a late night talk show as a musical guest, you're songs must be under 3 minutes, 'cuz that's all the time you're alloted :) Guess we won't be seeing them on TV anytime soon. James Bako email_address_removed Polytechnic University Brooklyn, New York ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 22 Feb 1995 11:21:53 -0500 From: John B Ashcraft To: email_address_removed Subject: Re: corruption in the goat herd Message-ID: Oh man you just better unsubscribe right now unless you have a death wishtl. Trey ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 22 Feb 95 11:21:16 EST From: "Brian J. Wherry" To: Subject: Thoughts . . . Message-ID: <22FEB95.12262969.0023.MUSIC@LAFAYACS> A few things: 1) Mike Portnoy is a huge boxing fan. Mike Tyson is/was basically the Mac Daddy of boxing, and since he's been put away, boxing hasn't been as exciting. Mike just wants him back for that reason. Mike isn't into the whole sexual assault thing, I'm sure! 2) Sloppy Joe- You really have a way with big words. Congratulations! "Poppycock" is especially brilliant. One thing, though: You don't know what the fuck you're talking about! I could use a bunch of big words to describe quantum physics, but I still don't know anything about it! So educate yourself a little bit about a given topic before you go and give a lecture to the experts!! 3) Ytsejam convention? Awesome! Just my $.02! Brian ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 22 Feb 1995 11:29:41 -0500 (EST) From: Michael Burstin To: email_address_removed (Ytsejam SERVER) Subject: DT reference in my school newspaper... Message-ID: Wow... at least one other person in my school has heard of DT... and I am impressed... :) One of my friends who is an editor on the school paper asked me for the name of DT's drummer & bass player... I was wondering why... so I checked out the paper, and someone did a review of some CD (don't remember what) but whoever did the article mentioned that their musical style was sorta like DT's, but that the band was nowhere nearly as talented... So I found a 3rd person who knows of DT. (I know of someone else also... but he's an asshole (IMO)) -- +----------------------------------------+----------------+---------+ | And I'll smile and learn to pretend | Dream Theater | Michael | | And I'll never be open again | Space Dye Vest | Burstin | | And I'll have no more dreams to defend |-----Awake------+---------+ | And I'll never be open again | Pgh Penguins: 13-1-2 | +----------------------------------------+--------------------------+ For info about Dream Theater, finger email_address_removed http://cs.brandeis.edu/~mikeb/home.html ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 22 Feb 1995 11:34:08 -0500 From: Michael Backof To: email_address_removed Subject: Ytse Con, Other bands, Yes, etc... Message-ID: Wake Up!! Just some comments: Ytse Con -------- I am surprised that this hasn't come up before. Thanks Babs for the idea . I think if we pull this off it should be scheduled in the summer sometime which would allow those working to take vacation and us college types would be out of school (theoretically, I have had summer classes before). Even if we can't get the band to perform it would be cool just to have as many of them as possible hanging out there. I really don't have any ideas for where it should be held I'd like it to be on the east coast if possible (because that is where I am) if it isnn't I'm taking a flight to get there most likely (though It would be cool to drive cross country to California with a trunk full of beer and all of my DT boots and albums. Yes albums ---------- If you are getting into Yes for the first time I would get Fragile or Close to the Edge, definitely my favorite albums by the group, they are also considered to be the band's best by a large number of fans (though Topographic Oceans usually ranks high). These two albums have Jon Anderson on vocals, Steve Howe on guitar, Chris Squire on bass, Rick Wakeman on keys, and Fragile has Bruford, Close to the Edge has White on drums I believe. Related bands ------------- Something that I just picked up, Asgard's Imago Mundi. Kinda one of those D&D war type albums in concept, the songs are titled after various lands in this realm ie Justice (Land of the Silver Drakkar) and Vulgarity (Land of the Slimes). All of the pieces strike wonderful moods based on the titles. Several of the early songs would be described as heavier prog metal and many in the middle are more prog rock. It is hard to do a song about Serenity and have grinding guitar parts. I just got to Disharmony (Land of the Chasms) and this is a pretty heavy DTish song. However I would recommend this to all fantasy role players for mood music and to those who enjoy good keyboard influxed prog metal with a good vocalist (the lead singer has an accent but you can still understand him, kinda sings like Fish in his phrasing at times but his voice isn't similar). This is on Music is Intelligence label out of Germany WMMS 028. Here is the information: World Dist. German Dist, WMMS K.K. Music Shop Zollstr. 6 Marienstr. 3 D-37154 Northeim D-35606 Solms FAX: 05551/67383 FAX: 06442/23217 Or contact your favorite prog shop in the USA. Later, Mike email_address_removed ------------------------------ End of YTSEJAM Digest 711 *************************