YTSEJAM Digest 708 Today's Topics: 1) Re: Tape piracy (was Random Thoughts) by email_address_removed (Dr. Mosh) 2) Re: candlemass! no dtcontent by Yakster 3) by David Barlow 4) Re: YTSEJAM digest 706 by Jan Suchanek 5) UK dub site for Kevin's demos open(ing) by Jeremy Longley 6) Re: Random Thoughts... [dubbing/copying] by "Michael Wolberg" 7) "A YTSE CONVENTION by email_address_removed 8) Re: My Name's Rhea by Greg "Big Brother" Lee 9) Re: Live In Tokyo copies for sale by "UG REIS CHARLES R" 10) Metropolis part II ????? by w de boer 11) Oops! My bad... by LORDE ANDREW 12) It's **import** shopping time by "UG REIS CHARLES R" 13) DT on Dutch radio by "Marquering, W." 14) Xtra concert in Holland by "Marquering, W." 15) Re: albums with all good songs by "UG REIS CHARLES R" 16) Silent Man Single by STEVE SMITS 17) Re: Holy Shit!! by "UG REIS CHARLES R" 18) "A YTSE CONVENTION by "UG REIS CHARLES R" 19) Re: Live In Tokyo copies for sale by "UG REIS CHARLES R" 20) PMU and Duesseldorf Show by "UG REIS CHARLES R" 21) spelling by email_address_removed.ac.uk 22) Re: Marleen and Rena by (Charles Hines) 23) Re: Metropolis part II ????? by William T Bajzek 24) Re: My Name's Rhea by Tejus Korde 25) I&W TAB book by Brandon Vaughn 26) Re: spelling by Greg "Big Brother" Lee 27) Keyboard groups by Tejus Korde 28) Re: Marleen and Rena by "UG REIS CHARLES R" 29) I&W tab book by Brent Phillips 30) Re: Random Thoughts... [dubbing/copying] by Andrew Keegan 31) MCA home page... by Greg "Big Brother" Lee ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 20 Feb 1995 00:18:19 PST From: email_address_removed (Dr. Mosh) To: email_address_removed Subject: Re: Tape piracy (was Random Thoughts) Message-ID: About taping CD's for friends... and piracy... One question: How can you live with analog quality anyways? I usually buy the CD if it's worth it... -The Doc -- #$%*#$*@ REAL: email_address_removed + VIRTUAL: email_address_removed *@#$*@#$ *$%&%#$* The Dream Theater Archives: ftp.netcom.com: /pub/dr/drkhoe/dt &*@#$*@$ **%^$#$% WWW: "ftp://ftp.netcom.com/pub/dr/drkhoe/www/dthome.html" #$**@#*$ *$*$*$*# Reality Enhancement Software - Engineering Reality *$&#*#@$ ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 20 Feb 1995 08:54:03 +0000 (GMT) From: Yakster To: email_address_removed Cc: Multiple recipients of list Subject: Re: candlemass! no dtcontent Message-ID: On Sat, 18 Feb 1995, Tymoteusz Altman wrote: > > "darker music": > > If somebody's in it, I'd like to recommend a band that wasn't mentioned > > too much on ytsejam so far (at least as long as I'm lurking, i.e. not very > > long) : Candlemass > > They are from Sweden (special hi to Mats) and they do a very dark and > > heavy doom metal (?). OK, I think music-experts don't regard this being > > sort of proggy... No flames please, I'm not an expert. > > Try "Epicus Doomicus Metallicus" (but only if you're not about to commit > > suicide!) or the live album and maybe "Tales of Creation" (the three albums > > I know; there are more). Especially "Solitude", "The Demon's Gate", "The > > Sorcerer's Pledge" and "The Edge of Heaven" are really great. My 0.02$ only > > of course... > > > yes, another candlemass fan! i love these guys, ever since i heard their > song, at the gallow's end. it's such a melodic song, yet very heavy.... > the only cd i have is their live one...i can't seem to find any of their > cds around here (vancouver, bc.). can anyone help me out? > if so mail me at altman@sfu.ca > > i recommend candlemass to dt fans...even though they're not as technical. > but they are really good musicians, with great lyrics, and their vocalist > is pretty good (imho). > Well bugger me, a few more Candlemass fans. If you do want to listen to them the best starting album would be "Chapter VI" on Music for Nations. They now use a lot of keyboards, so the prog element is there, but only a bit. I recommend them as well, and whatever I say is gospel(IMHO)...well...um Anyway, look out for them, BTW can anyone tell me if they`ve split up or not, I had heard rumours. THE YAKSTER>>>>> on the ball / \ _ ) (( )) ( (@) /|\ ))_(( /|\ _ |-|`\ / | \ (/\|/\) / | \ (@) | | -------------------/--|-voV---\`|'/--Vov-|--\---------------------|-| |-| '^` (o o) '^` | | | | You`ve just been mailed `\Y/' "You tell me `trust me', |-| |-| by THE YAKSTER. I can`t trust you, as far | | | | Write to him at ; As I could throw you..." |-| |-| ldd@coventry.ac.uk Dream Theater - | | | | Lie |-| |_|___________________________________________________________________| | (@) l /\ / ( ( \ /\ l `\|-| l / V \ \ V \ l (@) l/ _) )_ \I `\ /' ` ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 20 Feb 95 10:52:58 GMT From: David Barlow To: email_address_removed Message-ID: email_address_removed.co.uk subscribe ytsejam david barlow ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 20 Feb 1995 13:52:07 +0100 (MEZ) From: Jan Suchanek To: email_address_removed Cc: Multiple recipients of list Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 706 Message-ID: Hi all around - this is a statement, I think "Awake" is the best of all DT-Albums. Yeti ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 20 Feb 1995 12:58:21 +0000 (GMT) From: Jeremy Longley To: email_address_removed Subject: UK dub site for Kevin's demos open(ing) Message-ID: I've just got my tape through from Jennifer (thanx :) ), and I'll soon be ready to run off some tapes for anyone in the UK. Things are kinda hectic for me at the moment, so bear with me. Mail me if you're interested and I'll send you details etc. Cheerz, Jezza _ _ jcl1008@ The way your heart sounds makes all (_)___ ________ _| | cam.ac.uk the difference; it's what decides if | / -_)_ /_ / _` |_| Jeremy Longley you'll endure the pain we all feel. _/ \___/__/__\__,_(_) Selwyn College The way your heart beats makes all |__/ Cambridge The difference in learning to live. ^`'~*-,._.^`'~*-,._.^`'~*-,._.^`'~*-,._.^`'~*-,._.^`'~* - Dream Theater. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 20 Feb 1995 12:45:06 GMT+200 From: "Michael Wolberg" To: email_address_removed Subject: Re: Random Thoughts... [dubbing/copying] Message-ID: Moin all! Hairball wrote: > Random Bits: > > > You could borrow or dub a copy from a friend and decide that way, of > >course. Sometimes though, that is not an option. > > Just my own 2 cents about dubbing - not to be taken as a flame, > just my own personal opinion. Generally, I'm against dubbing/copying > albums. Why? Simply put, tape piracy is killing the music industry. > [...] >Please, don't take this the wrong way, but, copying isn't really fair to >the artists you like so much. It may hurt them in the end. [...] I'm not sure 100% and please somebody correct me if I'm wrong, but AFAIK here in Germany we have an organisation called "G.E.M.A." (forgot the full name), which gets a part of the money that is made by trading blank tapes or similar "recordable" stuff. I think it also gets a kind of fee from radio stations and other institutions which do public shows using recorded music. Surely there are some other sources. This money is divided among all registered artists in a way, but don't ask me how. Thus the artists (and maybe the music industry, too) won't get only hurt/killed by copying. Making copys _for private use_ is not an ille- gal act in Germany (*). Of course you're not allowed to make business with copys, like this guy tried recently here on ytsejam. Apart from this I think copying generally raises the popularity of a band or an artist (more and faster spreading). If I've made good experiences with a copy, I'll be more inclined to buy the next album or even the album I've already a copy from (think of better quality and other advantages of a CD/LP compared to a tape, even a DAT). (*) As long as we do not consider Computer-Software (new law). bye MiWo ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 20 Feb 1995 08:56:18 -0500 (EST) From: email_address_removed To: email_address_removed Subject: "A YTSE CONVENTION Message-ID: Hello everyone, it's BABS. I know that I have only been with the list for a short while, but I am real curious to see how many of you would be interested in a Ytse convention. I know that some of you will find this ridiculous,but I think that it would be a lot of fun to get everyone together so that we can meet and see who we have been writing to. Just think we could have it centrally located perhaps in the U.S. I don't mean to exclude the ytse's from other countries - if they can suggest anything feasible just send me a line. I am asking the females on this list for feedback (since we are just better at this kind of stuff) on how we could do this. So Michelle, Jennifer (airdance), Jenny Baer (hope that I spelled your last name right), Kinga and I know that there are a few more women on the list let me know. I know some of you just think that this is another excuse for a party, but what's so wrong with that (ha ha). P.S. How much do you all wanna bet that the guy who is also on the Megadeath list is gonna flame me for this? -BABS ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 20 Feb 95 9:21:06 EST From: Greg "Big Brother" Lee To: email_address_removed Subject: Re: My Name's Rhea Message-ID: > Hi! My Name's Rhea. My Brother says I'm the youngest person on This list > neat, huh? :^) > Guess what?! No one at my ENTIRE school has ever heard of Dream > Theatre!!! Doesn't That Suck! ^^^^^^^ I guess that means NOBODY can spell it! 8^) ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 20 Feb 1995 07:48:08 MST From: "UG REIS CHARLES R" To: email_address_removed Subject: Re: Live In Tokyo copies for sale Message-ID: On Tue, 14 Feb 1995 email_address_removed wrote: > Hi fellow Jammers!! > I'm offering to sell copies of the LiT video. I have the original, > and I'll make copies for anyone who wants one. The price will be $15. BleaH! $15???!?!?!? I call bullshit. Not only is it illegal, but very stupid. My friend and I went to Camelot REcords in Salt Lake last week and he picked up the same freakin' video for $16. (It is a good video, BTW)... I can order the real ones for $16... Chuck... ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 20 Feb 1995 13:51:20 +0100 From: w de boer To: email_address_removed Subject: Metropolis part II ????? Message-ID: Your majestY, Ever since "Awake" was released, I have been wondering, why is there no "Metropolis part 2"? I know that the new style doesn't invite for another song like Metropolis, but DT could have made a part 2 in their new style, but still sounding like Metropolis. Ayone got some ideas about this? See ya !!? Wietze. email_address_removed.nl <<<<<<((((((((((( TO LIVE FOREVER ))))))))))))>>>>>>> ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 20 Feb 1995 9:55:12 -0500 (EST) From: LORDE ANDREW To: email_address_removed Subject: Oops! My bad... Message-ID: Hey, fellow ytsejammers. Sorry 'bout posting the ENTIRE 701 digest. I hit the wrong button at the wrong time, and I'm sure you know how that goes.... Thanks for not flaming me (the good natured stuff I understand!!). Anyways, I also wanted to say a couple thinbgs: 1) The Kevin Moore Demos are fantastic! I love them!! Thanks, Jennifer for making this opportunity available (and to all others who helped)! 2) I found the TAB book for I&W in Camelot music. Thanks also for the responses on the tour dates. Well, that's it. Sorry 'bout the boo boo! Andy ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- "From my mother's sleep I fell into the State And I hunched in its belly till my wet fur froze. Six miles from earth, loosed from its dream of life, I woke to black flak and the nightmare fighters. When I died they washed me out of the turret with a hose." --Randall Jarell, "The Death of the Ball Turret Gunner" ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Andy Dixon email_address_removed POBox 654 Hiram, OH 44234 Phone: (216)569-5027 ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 20 Feb 1995 07:52:43 MST From: "UG REIS CHARLES R" To: email_address_removed Subject: It's **import** shopping time Message-ID: >I was just browsing on CDNow! through Netscape... >#4. LIVE MARQUEE (JPN) $27.97 >Erik No Shit? That much? Wow... You oughtta go to Camelot records, if you have one near. That's a way rip. I got mine for $10 less... Chuck. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 20 Feb 95 14:21:00 GMT From: "Marquering, W." To: ytsejam Subject: DT on Dutch radio Message-ID: <2F48CAD8@eim.nl> Last friday the radio show with DT was broadcasted. It was a live unplugged session. The first song was simply brilliant: TEARS from Rush. James did a good job on this one! The second song was the silent man. I still don't like this song as much as the rest of awake. Two other songs will be broadcasted soon (next friday ?). In an interview with John P. he told us that after the European tour DT will be touring in Canada. Later they are planning to tour as a support act in the States. DT is still looking for a group (Van Halen ?) Wessel Marquering wma@eim.nl or w.a.marquering@kub.nl ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 20 Feb 95 13:29:00 GMT From: "Marquering, W." To: ytsejam Subject: Xtra concert in Holland Message-ID: <2F48CAD3@eim.nl> DT (and FW) will be playing an extra concert in The Netherlands! This will be on 11th of march in 'de Vereniging' in Nijmegen. I have to arrange some tickets soon! Wessel Marquering (wma@eim.nl or w.a.marquering@kub.nl) ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 20 Feb 1995 08:04:41 MST From: "UG REIS CHARLES R" To: email_address_removed Subject: Re: albums with all good songs Message-ID: >> No shit, thats all trendy music is, popular for >> only a length of time. The "Superstars" of the 80s aren't even >>remembered by their dearest fans any more. And with all of this, >>the thing I despise most is the people who listen to music only to >>become popular, or accepted within a crowd or group. I would wager >>25 percent of the people at my school come dressed in >>"altnerative drag" >Only 25%? Count yourself lucky to attend a school where tha students >espouse conservative values !>\> Feel lucky. 75% of the students in my school come to school dressed in their happy gangster costumes. 35% of them have teardrops tattooed beside their eye (I'm betting half of those are tattoos from gumball machines), and yet the other 24% come dressed in alerternative garb. Me, being of the 1% genre, I wear my Dream Theater T-shirt to school and get flamed for it. Same with my Queesryche ones, yet my Metallica ones seem to go over quite well..... Nuff Said, Chuck ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 20 Feb 1995 09:51:38 -0600 (CST) From: STEVE SMITS To: email_address_removed Subject: Silent Man Single Message-ID: Date sent: 20-FEB-1995 09:38:56 I got the UK CD single for Silent Man yesterday. It has 3 tracks, the other two being Eve and the TTT demo. I'm glad they put the demo on CD. I can't even remember the last time I bought vinyl...I wasn't going to get the Lie 12 incher. (They're impossible to find in the States anyhow) The front cover is really dark and grim with a dark figure (the man) standing in the shadows. In the foreground is a window with a bullet hole in it. The inside cover has the picture from Awake of the guys in the studio. Kind of weird seeing Kevin pictured....it makes a new fan think he is still in the group. I'll sell audio copies of it for 100 bucks. Any takers?! I agree with Mike's assessment of Kansas' Live at the Whiskey CD. If you want live Kansas get Two for the Show. Kansas made up for LATW by putting out an AWESOME box set last year...worth checking out. Kansas will have a new album out in a couple of months....their first studio release with their new violinist. (They have 3 original members left) ******************************************************************************** * * "All my life they said I was going down, * But I'm still standing, stronger, proud. * And today I know there's so much more I can be." * - Someone Else? - Queensryche 1994 * * *** Always interested in trading Kansas shows *** * Steve Smits email_address_removed ******************************************************************************** ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 20 Feb 1995 08:57:59 MST From: "UG REIS CHARLES R" To: email_address_removed Subject: Re: Holy Shit!! Message-ID: >Going aside from DT matter, this info is NOT true; at least not for >the first leg of Van Halen's tour. I have already purchased VH >tickets for an April show in St. Pete and not a mention of Bon Jovi >was heard. And chances are, they probably won't be added for the >first leg, since I paid $28.50 for the tix and a co-headlining tour >would cost more, I would expect. >Beyond the first leg, any speculation goes. >Hope this cleared this matter up. >Later on, Jammers... >geo Well, Corrosion didn't headline on Megadeth's ticket, and we really weren't sure if it was Corrosion opening up, but unfortunately, they did. Maybe Jon's not worthy (and he's not, anymore) to even show up on VH's ticket, who knows? It makes sense to me, he's touring with them... Chuck ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 20 Feb 1995 09:52:53 MST From: "UG REIS CHARLES R" To: email_address_removed Subject: "A YTSE CONVENTION Message-ID: >so wrong with that (ha ha). P.S. How much do you all wanna bet that >the guy who is also on the Megadeath list is gonna flame me for this? >-BABS Flame you? It's a good idea! Get somethin' together. :) Another post, Chuck ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 20 Feb 1995 09:54:25 MST From: "UG REIS CHARLES R" To: email_address_removed Subject: Re: Live In Tokyo copies for sale Message-ID: I guess I posted this too late. Ack! If Kev's out there... I guess you've learned your lesson, no selling boots. (You oughtta trade them for demos and stuff tho, would be cool). Chuck ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 20 Feb 1995 08:36:54 MST From: "UG REIS CHARLES R" To: email_address_removed Subject: PMU and Duesseldorf Show Message-ID: Steffen Barabasch PS: I can't resist. Some of MY all time favorites: Marillion - Clutching At Straws, The Doors - L.A. Woman, Queen II, Temple Of The Dog, Slayer - Reign In Blood and Enya - Watermark... oops... ^^^^^^ ^^ ^^^ ^^^ Wow! Of all of the albums I forgot! That has to be one of THE best albums produced from the Seattle area. It has everything you want to hear in a band. Chris Cornell's vocals, Jeff Ament's bass, Mike McCready and Stone Gossard, last (and not quite least) Eddie Vedder backup vocals. It's rad. (Sorry for the many posts, but since the Megadeth concert, I haven't read my mail, came back to 162 messages, all from the list). Megadeth was rad, tho. I recommend to all to go to one of their shows. I got crushed to death in the front row (the rail...), buy it was worth it. Don't go to see Corrosion of Conformity, they suck. Everyone booed them off of the stage. (Heh, heh) I made my way up front for when 'Deth came out, and headbanged with Marty Friedman, God it was great! I got to see him actually rip it up, live. It has to be one of the greatest experiences of my life. (I can't wait for DT to show up, I don't think they'll get the same reaction, tho.) Sorry for the long post (and non-DT content) Chuck ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 20 Feb 95 15:56:41 GMT From: email_address_removed.ac.uk To: email_address_removed Subject: spelling Message-ID: > Guess what?! No one at my ENTIRE school has ever heard of Dream > Theatre!!! Doesn't That Suck! ^^^^^^^ This IS the way it was spelt on the inside of the WDADU packaging. I think it was at the start of the lyrics for A Fortune In Lies . . . it said 'Music By Dream Theatre' on an official release! :) hehehe Graham B. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 20 Feb 1995 11:00:29 -0500 From: (Charles Hines) To: email_address_removed Subject: Re: Marleen and Rena Message-ID: Andy> Anyone watch VH-1 last night "women's night out" comedy hour. They had an Andy> all-girl band and the bass player looked like Mike's wife Marlene. The Andy> guitar player was also a blonde, but since I've never seen Rena, I Andy> wouldn't know if it was her. Yeah, Meanstreak plays as the house band on that show. In fact, I think I saw John P. sitting in the audience in the show I caught this past weekend. Chuck ******************************************************************************* Charles K. Hines IBM Logic Synthesis developer [BooleDozer (TM)] Internet e-mail: email_address_removed IBM Internal e-mail: email_address_removed (preferred from workstation) HINESC at FISHKILL (preferred from mainframe) HINESC at FSHVMFK1 (discouraged, but I'll get it) ******************************************************************************* "dis ting could have possabiwities if I put my twisted widdle mind to it!" - Bugs Bunny "I have a paper plate in my head because they were all out of the metal ones" - Rick Overton ******************************************************************************* ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 20 Feb 1995 12:59:33 -0500 (EST) From: William T Bajzek To: email_address_removed Subject: Re: Metropolis part II ????? Message-ID: This space left intentionally blank Organization: Aepithex (guitars) w de boer writes: > Your majestY, > > Ever since "Awake" was released, I have been wondering, why is there no > "Metropolis part 2"? I know that the new style doesn't invite for another song like > Metropolis, but DT could have made a part 2 in their new style, but still sounding like > Metropolis. Ayone got some ideas about this? > i think they just didnt write it. but you sleep like a ghost with me -william bajzek- come to my madness its as simple as that -http://www.contrib.andrew.cmu.edu- my opium den so tell me i'm mad -/u/wb2a/home--/cdsale-/reviews- come to my madness roll me up and breathe me in -guitars,aepithex- make sense of it again ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 20 Feb 1995 15:22:36 -0500 (EST) From: Tejus Korde To: email_address_removed Cc: Multiple recipients of list Subject: Re: My Name's Rhea Message-ID: > > Guess what?! No one at my ENTIRE school has ever heard of Dream > > Theatre!!! Doesn't That Suck! My school has 20,000 undergraduates. I only know three people here who like Dream Theater. I'm willing to bet that these are the only three people on campus (other than myself) that like DT. Brandon email_address_removed "I tell you what...we're in the mood for long songs." - James Labrie ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 20 Feb 95 14:36:40 CST From: Brandon Vaughn To: email_address_removed Subject: I&W TAB book Message-ID: Just wanted to let those who live in small or "dead" towns know that you can order the I&W TAB book from a place called Guitar One-Stop. Music Dispatch does not have them. I guess you can order them direct from Warner Bros. Guitar One-Stop advertises in the classifieds in most guitar mags. Let me know if you need their number. Even though this book is out, I still think it would be interesting to look at the Japan transcriptions. Then you would have everthing (guitar, bass, keys, and drums) for WDADU, I&W, and Awake. Don't know though how good they are or even if we can get hold of them. ********************************************************************* * Brandon Vaughn ------ email_address_removed * ********************************************************************* ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 20 Feb 95 16:02:44 EST From: Greg "Big Brother" Lee To: email_address_removed Subject: Re: spelling Message-ID: > > Guess what?! No one at my ENTIRE school has ever heard of Dream > > Theatre!!! Doesn't That Suck! > ^^^^^^^ > > This IS the way it was spelt on the inside of the WDADU packaging. I think it > was at the start of the lyrics for A Fortune In Lies . . . it said > > 'Music By Dream Theatre' > > on an official release! :) > hehehe Charlie probably did that, and other than his singing, that's why they canned him! Hee hee hee! Lay off the helium, Charlie, wherever you are... Greg. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 20 Feb 1995 16:03:54 -0500 (EST) From: Tejus Korde To: email_address_removed Cc: Multiple recipients of list Subject: Keyboard groups Message-ID: The thing I like most about Dream Theater is the keyboards. Can anyone suggest any prog metal bands where the keyboards have a big impact on the music and are used throughout the songs? Brandon ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 20 Feb 1995 15:19:52 MST From: "UG REIS CHARLES R" To: email_address_removed Subject: Re: Marleen and Rena Message-ID: >Yeah, Meanstreak plays as the house band on that show. In fact, I >think I saw John P. sitting in the audience in the show I caught this >past weekend. >Chuck Doh! I think I'll start using my pseudonym, Ibanez from now on... It gets confusing from here on out... Chuck (Ibanez) ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 20 Feb 1995 17:26:28 -0500 From: Brent Phillips To: email_address_removed Subject: I&W tab book Message-ID: Does anyone know where on can mail-order the I&W tab book? I've spent the last few hours calling every music store in this time zone and no one has it. :( Later, - Brent ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 20 Feb 1995 19:41:55 -0500 (EST) From: Andrew Keegan To: email_address_removed Cc: Multiple recipients of list Subject: Re: Random Thoughts... [dubbing/copying] Message-ID: On Mon, 20 Feb 1995, Michael Wolberg wrote: > > I'm not sure 100% and please somebody correct me if I'm wrong, but AFAIK > here in Germany we have an organisation called "G.E.M.A." (forgot the full > name), which gets a part of the money that is made by trading blank tapes > or similar "recordable" stuff. I think it also gets a kind of fee from > radio stations and other institutions which do public shows using recorded > music. Surely there are some other sources. > This money is divided among all registered artists in a way, but don't ask > me how. Thus the artists (and maybe the music industry, too) won't get only > hurt/killed by copying. Making copys _for private use_ is not an ille- > gal act in Germany (*). Of course you're not allowed to make business with > copys, like this guy tried recently here on ytsejam. > Interesting point. In the U.S., I think that blank tape manufacturers pay a fee to record companies for "lost royalties". Now does this mean that when I tape a concert that I have already paid my royalties by using a blank tape. It seems to me that this royalty tax would give me the OK to tape things. Although I'm sure that the record companies have some sort of clause denying me the "right" to make tapes even though they smugly collect a fee for the future probability of taping. Andy email_address_removed ============================================================== "Emancipate yourself from "There's only one way mental slavery, of life, None but ourselves can free And that's your own" our mind" - B. Marley - Levellers ============================================================== ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 20 Feb 1995 17:48:21 -0500 From: Greg "Big Brother" Lee To: email_address_removed Subject: MCA home page... Message-ID: Surfin' the net today...I went over to MCA and they want to know what your 7 fav albums are...so take you stupid perfect album thread over to http://www.mca.com/mca_records/ampsevenlist.html and put in a plug for DT. You might have to start at http://www.mca.com/ and work your way in... Enough of this...time for dinner...surfin' the net can make ya hungry! Greg. ------------------------------ End of YTSEJAM Digest 708 *************************