YTSEJAM Digest 661 Today's Topics: 1) Re: am I the oldest Y'jammer? by Jamie Burks 2) Re: cover gig...fw by William T Bajzek 3) electric violins?? by Anthony 4) Re: MOD by V C Morrison 5) Re: Difficulty of DT...Keeping up with the LaBries by email_address_removed (William B. Moore) 6) YTSEJAM digest 659 by "Cackowski, David" 7) Re: YTSEJAM digest 659 by Alex Lifeson 8) Dubbing Volunteer Here! by email_address_removed (Alvarez, Paul) 9) Re: Holsinger and cadets by G-Man 10) Re: Stuff by James Bickers 11) Re: Re : YTSEJAM digest 654 by Andrew Keegan 12) Re: RUSH recommendations ? by email_address_removed (Zack Gemmill) 13) Puppies on Acid by email_address_removed (Phatty) 14) YoYoYoYo by SPUDS 15) Re: Music styles by William T Bajzek 16) Re: Re : YTSEJAM digest 654 by James Bako 17) October 28th, 1994 by email_address_removed 18) Some musings on YTSEJAM digest 660 by "Perry M. Grayson" 19) Re: MOD by "tdb" 20) RE: am I the oldest Y'jammer? by "Debra D. Hanson 813-332-1969" 21) Re: electric violins?? by Andrew Cloninger 22) Re: RUSH recommendations ? by Michael Bahr 23) Re: am I the oldest Y'jammer? by email_address_removed ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Tue, 24 Jan 1995 14:10:57 -0500 (EST) From: Jamie Burks To: email_address_removed Subject: Re: am I the oldest Y'jammer? Message-ID: email_address_removed (Clarke Woodfin) wrote > > Hi 'Jammers, > > I was corresponding with a fellow 'Jammer (Hi, Babs) the other day, and we > were talking about the high percentage of 'Jammers that are college students > (this is a good thing - it ensures a long, prosperous future for DT). > However, I'm 28. Anybody out there older than me? Maybe we'll all get > together and buy a cane and cover it with DT stickers and give it to the > oldest 'Jammer. > Well, I am 29, but I've only been a jammer for a few months, but a DT fan for a lot longer. It might be interesting to get an idea the age of DT fans. ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- ...the voice of reason against the howling mob. Jamie Burks - Rush - "Nobodys Hero" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 24 Jan 1995 14:45:23 -0500 (EST) From: William T Bajzek To: Multiple recipients of list Subject: Re: cover gig...fw Message-ID: everyone starts with parallels and is dissappointed... so was i. i got perfect symmetry in a tape trade because i wanted to hear what kevin did on it and i was amazed by the whole thing... then i got it and no exit, then the first 2, then parallels, which grew on me quickly (although i had hated it for a year or so) then inside out and i'm an addict now. if you get parallels and wanna give them another try, dont get rid of it because most likely it'll grow on you eventually, if you dont get the idea in your head that that's the extent of what they do under brooding skies and watchful email_address_removed on convulsive seas of false urgency-----http://www.contrib.andrew.cmu we walk empty corridors in vain--------derek-------.edu/usr/wb2a/home -cds for sale: http://www.contrib.andrew.cmu.edu/u/wb2a/cdsale.html- guitars, not-very-impressive backing vocals, and songwriter, aepithex ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 24 Jan 1995 14:24:38 -0500 (EST) From: Anthony To: DT:;@donews.uucp Subject: electric violins?? Message-ID: hello, awhile back , one of our fellow ytsejammers posted about orchestrated DT and proposed an idea about electric violins being used...i dont know how this would sound but it started me thinking...the only song i know of that uses an electric violin is "Losing It" by RUSH off of their album _Signals_. Does anyone else know of any other prog music that uses electric violin(s)?? thanks...id be really interested to know... ******************************************************************************* Anthony Kozar "The Divine Spirit found a sublime outlet in Univ. of Toledo that wonder of analysis, that portent of the 1042 Acad. Ctr. ideal world, that amphibian between being email_address_removed and not-being, which we call the imaginary http://www.utoledo.edu/~akozar/ root of negative unity." -- Leibniz ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 24 Jan 95 15:26:07 EST From: V C Morrison To: Ytse Jam Subject: Re: MOD Message-ID: A MOD stands for Music Modules. It's a format for computer music first used on the Amiga line of computers, but then used on PCs and MACs as well. It uses sound samples that you can get anywhere, or make your own. /-/-/-/-/-/-/-/-/-/-/-/-/-/-/-/-/-/-/-/-/-/-/-/-/-/-/-/-/-/-/-/-/-/-/-/- "If I started from the top and worked my way down, I'd have no reason to live forever." -Dream Theater -/-/-/-/-/-/-/-/-/-/-/-/-/-/-/-/-/-/-/-/-/-/-/-/-/-/-/-/-/-/-/-/-/-/-/-/- Vincent C. Morrison| S O U L S T E A L E R |email_address_removed --------------------------------------------|email_address_removed ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 24 Jan 95 16:12:07 PST From: email_address_removed (William B. Moore) To: email_address_removed Subject: Re: Difficulty of DT...Keeping up with the LaBries Message-ID: Steve Sez: >Date: Tue, 24 Jan 1995 02:11:05 -0500 (EST) >From: zebrowski steven > > I'm curious as to what all you 'jammers think is the most*difficult* DT song out there... > I'm a singer, and as far as I'm concerned the hardest songs to sing are > TTT, Surrounded, LtL, LFaGA, and Status Seeker, in that order. I've gotta agree with you on TTT...James really squeezed 'em for most of the tune. I love to use it as a workout when I'm tired of the keyboard. Obviously, different singers will have different strengths and weaknesses, so we certainly won't all agree on the hardest tune, passage, wail, whatever, and some of us will find it easier to sing with Dominici than LaBrie or vice versa. Personally, the new album is somewhat of a disappointment in that respect (and others, but I don't want to get into it). I don't think James is as comfortable with the new singing style as he was on IAW, and the performance just isn't as intense. (I _do_ think it came across much better live). Anyway, I'm interested to hear what songs a drummer will pick as the toughest to perform. . . /`\ . . , __/ |/\ + _/ q / email_address_removed . \ / "The world is not full enough / \ . of wolves." * / / ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 24 Jan 95 16:19:00 EST From: "Cackowski, David" To: email_address_removed Cc: email_address_removed Subject: YTSEJAM digest 659 Message-ID: <2F259991@OSCS_MAIL_GATE> Hi Clarke, I am older...34 in April. I doubt that I am the oldest on the list though. Dave C. Cleveland ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 24 Jan 1995 16:44:50 -0500 (EST) From: Alex Lifeson To: email_address_removed Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 659 Message-ID: First thing first, if anyone has complete lyrics of 'To Live Forever', it would fantastic if I could get them. Send them to my address, if you would, thank you kindly. And to BABS, I believe that before The Mirror was The Mirror, it was just a little intro to Take the Time, I believe they called it Puppies On Acid, or something like that. It's wierd that you mentioned that, because I was just watching the Tokyo Video, and was wondering why they called it that. If anyone knows why, or wants to coorect me if I'm wrong, take your stab. Brian Eichorn ------------------------------ Date: 24 Jan 95 22:06 GMT From: email_address_removed (Alvarez, Paul) To: email_address_removed Subject: Dubbing Volunteer Here! Message-ID: >Just a little update on the dubbing thing. I got Kev's three new demos last >Thursday (I'm listening to them on headphones for about the twentieth time as >I type :), so I just sent out instructions to everyone who volunteered to be >a dub site. Hopefully, some dub sites within the US will be ready to open as >soon as the beginning of February (yes, that soon!). Slowly, but surely, the >ball is now rolling. :) The demos add up to about 55 minutes total, BTW! >It's like getting a whole new album. :) >If anyone who wrote to me about being a dub site hasn't received a dubbing >FAQ within the next day or two, e-mail me and I'll make sure that you get >one. Thanks! >I'll keep you posted! >Jennifer > -------------------------------- Hi Jennifer, I didn't contact you earlier about being a dub site, but I would like to volunteer to do so if you are still looking for support. I have high quality cassette recorders and a DAT depending on what kind of first generation master you were going to be providing. I could start going as soon as I get the masters. Please let me know if I can help (as I am also very interested in hearing Kevin's new work!). Paul Alvarez ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 24 Jan 1995 18:11:06 -0500 (EST) From: G-Man To: email_address_removed Subject: Re: Holsinger and cadets Message-ID: Hi! So you were in that show with Perilous Skies, huh? Very impressive! I'm the drum captain in the marching band at the U of D and was very impressed by that show. Saw a video of it. You must know Eric Heisler, hmm? I think he plays/played 1st bass? He lives in my dorm, I've had a couple classes with him. Do you think there's a connection between drum corps and Dream Theater? maybe. Garrett | Garrett M Sanborne Univ of Delaware |=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=| | =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- | Disco is to music as | | Dream Theater * Rush * Queensryche * | Etch-A-Sketch is to art. | | * Led Zeppelin * Metallica * Mozart |-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-| ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 24 Jan 1995 18:22:39 -0500 (EST) From: James Bickers To: email_address_removed Cc: Multiple recipients of list Subject: Re: Stuff Message-ID: > I have said this repeatedly in the past, and since there are new people here > all the time, I'll say it again. I DON'T GET FATES. I mean, DT, Rush, QR > all blow me away - so what the hell is my problem? (This is where someone > will say something quick like 'because you have shit in your ears') Paralles > puts me to sleep. Remember, these guys have been around for a pretty long > time - if DT is already bigger than they ever will be, maybe there is a good > reason for it. > > Mike Please, before you give up on FW, try one more thing... "Awaken the Guardian." IMHO, their best album. James ---------------------------------------------------- Full Service Printing * Typesetting * Graphic Design Continuous Forms * Computer Checks I M A G E S and W O R D S for more information, finger email_address_removed ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 24 Jan 1995 18:35:14 -0500 (EST) From: Andrew Keegan To: email_address_removed Cc: Multiple recipients of list Subject: Re: Re : YTSEJAM digest 654 Message-ID: On Tue, 24 Jan 1995 email_address_removed wrote: > > > > There's inconsistencies among the information concerning this new bootleg. For > the last week or so, any mention has claimed that this boot was from Oct. 28 at > the Manhattan Center in NY. The year was never even mentioned, let alone any > songs being mentioned except metropolis and Another Day, so I thought this was > another Images and Tour show. Now Kaoru says its from Oct. 29, 1995. I'm glad > to hear it's an Awake show, but it couldn't have been from Oct. 28 or 29, since > these shows were in Baltimore and Pittsburgh respectively. Kaoru, does James > say "New York" on the recording? If so, someone reiterate when they played at > the Manhattan Center. Both Baltimore and Pittsburgh shows included Set the Sun > but not Innocence Faded, so the location could be messed up also. I'm just > curious to whether we can figure this out. I was at the Pittsburgh show, and > Putrucci's acoustic didn't work for Silent Man, so they stopped the song and > started it over with him playing his electric. This is distinctive of > Pittsburgh, so if this isn't on the recording, then it's not from Oct. 29. > > KAI The Manhattan Center date is October 28 1994 A way to verify if the CD is from Manhattan Center is to listen to the end of Take The Time. Dereks's piano goes out and he uses an organ sound instead. Andy ================================================= ANDREW KEEGAN (email_address_removed) "I am but a starling, learning the currents of the air" -Castanarc ================================================ ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 24 Jan 95 19:14:19 PST From: email_address_removed (Zack Gemmill) To: email_address_removed Subject: Re: RUSH recommendations ? Message-ID: > > Hi fellow jammers out there. > It's hard to find old Rush, so > I'll probable by any of their albums as they become available, but > could you give me some pointers to which Rush albums should be > considered essential? I'll give what I consider the best albums to get from the different Rush "Eras": from the 70's- (I'd include FBN instead of HS, but since you already have it... By-Tor and the SD rocks!) 1. 2112 ('76) (a must have for any metal fan) 2. Hemispheres ('78) (for La Villa Strangiato- perhaps the best instrumental ever written) early 80's- *1. Moving Pictures ('81) (considered by most to be their best album *ever*)* 2. Power Windows ('85) (since you already have Permanent Waves, the next best might be this album, although it might not be hardcore enough for you) post PW 80's -90's 1. Hold Your Fire ('87) (I hold this and MP to be the best Rush albums ever- the album that got me intro'd me to Rush back then *this album* marks the end of a "Rush Era" - to paraphrase Geddy- and if you have all the albums, you'll know what he means) 2. Counterparts ('93) (their most recent effort, and their best since HYF, some good, heavy stuff here) if you like jazz, you *might* like - 1. Presto ('89) (probably their most unique and interesting album although *I* wouldn't put in it my top 5) if you just want a sampling: *1.2-CD set "Chronicles" ('90) (has at least 2 songs from *every* album up to HYF and 1 song from Presto, a good sampler to start from)* 2. Exit Stage Left ('81) (this is a live album which has a lot of excellent stuff *plus* a killer drum solo *and* Xanadu (*no one* was doing stuff like Xanadu back then- definitely a top 5 of all time song), from A Farewell to Kings ('77) which I didn't include in the list above.) 3. A Show of Hands ('89) (better live album that has mostly new stuff with some stuff from albums I didn't include above and this is *excellent* sounding, probably one of the best live arena- recorded albums ever put out by anyone.) bootlegs- 1. Rush 'n Roulette '92 (probably the best Rush boot 2-CD out there *this is a soundboard* from a Rush show with, IMO, the best setlist of any Rush show ever. *killer encore*) I might've missed some dates because I haven't really listened to Rush for about 9 months (since the last tour) because I've been busy listening to Metallica, Dream Theater and now Queensryche (geared or are gearing up for the respective tours) (The two asterisked albums and the two live albums are the ones I most strongly suggest.) Anyway, have fun! Zach ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 24 Jan 1995 22:48:47 -0500 From: email_address_removed (Phatty) To: email_address_removed Subject: Puppies on Acid Message-ID: >The beginning to the Mirror... also entitled Puppies on Acid has been >around for quite a while. If the Images tour's beginning to TTT (also the beginning to the Mirror) is Puppies on Acid, then what's the title of the jam after 'To Live Forever' on the LitS boot? -Eric ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 24 Jan 1995 17:53:36 -0700 (MST) From: SPUDS To: email_address_removed Subject: YoYoYoYo Message-ID: It's me again ladies and gentledudes. I'd just like to put in my 49.3 cents. 1) Got a suggestion for the DT poll. Since a lot of people on the list are college or older, how about a place for career or major? I'm sorta curious about what every body else does to pay for their DT habits. 2) I've got the GFTPM transcriptions to TTT and also Eroto, CIAW, and Lie. Just send me your address and I'll photocopy them for you and send them. 3) MANDATORY Rush CD's (in my opinion and in order): Hemispheres A Farewell to Kings Permanent Waves Moving Pictures Signals Power Windows Presto Counterparts 4) Jennifer, how in the world could we as jammer's convince you to dub copies of Kev's demos?? Take care everybody!!! Greg Bunker ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 24 Jan 1995 20:04:17 -0500 (EST) From: William T Bajzek To: Multiple recipients of list Subject: Re: Music styles Message-ID: William Kriski writes: > I've been hearing Al DiMeola's Kiss My Axe is good. i think its excellent... there are some similarities to DT in the way on some of the solos the guitar and keyboards play the same thing... its not for everybody, buts its very good. excellent guitar and keyboards... under brooding skies and watchful email_address_removed on convulsive seas of false urgency-----http://www.contrib.andrew.cmu we walk empty corridors in vain--------derek-------.edu/usr/wb2a/home -cds for sale: http://www.contrib.andrew.cmu.edu/u/wb2a/cdsale.html- guitars, not-very-impressive backing vocals, and songwriter, aepithex ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 24 Jan 1995 20:18:56 -0500 (EST) From: James Bako To: email_address_removed Subject: Re: Re : YTSEJAM digest 654 Message-ID: On Tue, 24 Jan 1995 email_address_removed wrote: > > >>and he mentioned one called "Kick Into A Dream" Has anyone heard > >>anything about this one? > > > I got it, and someone already mentioned about it... The date is Oct 29th > > 1995, at Manhattan Center in NY. Very good audience recording I guess, > > and completed gig is recorded. Set list has "The Ones" but no Innocence > > Faded. It's good boot as LoS in my opinion. :) > WOW!! 1995!!!! Shit, that means that time travel has just been invented and implemented :)))) > another Images and Tour show. Now Kaoru says its from Oct. 29, 1995. I'm glad > to hear it's an Awake show, but it couldn't have been from Oct. 28 or 29, since > these shows were in Baltimore and Pittsburgh respectively. Kaoru, does James > say "New York" on the recording? If so, someone reiterate when they played at > the Manhattan Center. Both Baltimore and Pittsburgh shows included Set the Sun > but not Innocence Faded, so the location could be messed up also. I'm just I was at the 10/28/94 show in NY, and according to the t-shirt, the 27th was baltimore and 29th was Pittsburgh. hope this straightens everything out. James Bako email_address_removed Polytechnic University Brooklyn, New York ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 24 Jan 1995 20:25:33 -0500 From: email_address_removed To: email_address_removed Subject: October 28th, 1994 Message-ID: >>>There's inconsistencies among the information concerning this new bootleg. For the last week or so, any mention has claimed that this boot was from Oct. 28 at the Manhattan Center in NY. The year was never even mentioned, let alone any songs being mentioned except metropolis and Another Day, so I thought this was another Images and Tour show. Now Kaoru says its from Oct. 29, 1995. I'm glad to hear it's an Awake show, but it couldn't have been from Oct. 28 or 29, since these shows were in Baltimore and Pittsburgh respectively. Kaoru, does James say "New York" on the recording? If so, someone reiterate when they played at the Manhattan Center. Both Baltimore and Pittsburgh shows included Set the Sun but not Innocence Faded, so the location could be messed up also. I'm just curious to whether we can figure this out. I was at the Pittsburgh show, and Putrucci's acoustic didn't work for Silent Man, so they stopped the song and started it over with him playing his electric. This is distinctive of Pittsburgh, so if this isn't on the recording, then it's not from Oct. 29.<<< The date is October 28th, 1994 at the Manhattan Center in New York City in the state of New York in the United States. Yes, it was the AWAKE tour. No, Dream Theater was NOT in Baltimore on October 28th, 1994. Unless the show I saw on October 28th, 1994 in the Manhattan Center was a mirage or a dream, Dream Theater was DEFINITELY in the MANHATTAN CENTER ON OCTOBER 28TH, 1994. That is what it says on my CD box for "Kick into a Dream." If you have an Awake tour shirt, look at the dates. They were in New York, NY on October 28th, 1994. I repeat, the AWAKE TOUR. Yours, Jeff <<<==<==<==<==<==<==<==<==<==<<<>>>==>==>==>==>==>==>==>==>==>>> Jeff Chew is: "Should I turn on my religion? email_address_removed These demons in my head tell me to" -John Petrucci <<<==<==<==<==<==<==<==<==<==<<<<\-/-\-/-\-/>>>>==>==>==>==>==>==>==>==>==>>> ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 24 Jan 1995 17:25:20 +0800 (PST) From: "Perry M. Grayson" To: email_address_removed Subject: Some musings on YTSEJAM digest 660 Message-ID: Fellow Ytsejam acolytes-- In Digest #660, Brian Nielsen wrote: > Being a Dream Theater fan for a couple of years (yep, I also got > WDADU, if you still remember that thread;) and several other prog > bands, my attention has been brought to the music of Rush. I know that > most of you like Rush, so I find this the best place to ask for > recommendations. I currently have Fly by Night on vinyl and Permanent > waves on CD. Of the two I like PW best. It's hard to find old Rush, so > I'll probably by any of their albums as they become available, but > could you give me some pointers to which Rush albums should be > considered essential? I would recommend that you search for "Moving Pictures" (1981) and "2112" (1976); these are my personal Rush favorites. "2112" in particular is a disc I never tire of listening to--IMHO it is a richly-detailed concept album. DT furthers my amazement in creating new musical concepts that affect me even more than Rush... > Thanks in advance. Your entirely welcome. In the same digest no., email_address_removed (John Jens, Jr.) wrote: > Howdy fellow 'Jammers. sorry for the lack o' DT content but... Since Fates has been opening up for DT, I think it's quite valid to talk about them... > ..with all this talk about Fates Warning, i felt i had to post. i was first > introduced to FW 3 years ago, and i hated it. but a band i was in played > several covers from No Exit, Perfect Symmetry, and Parallels so i was put on > a strict listening diet of FW and Queensryche -- i din't like QR at the time > either; what was wrong w/ me???. i grew to appreciate FW for the seemingly > simplicity of their songs as a whole but also for the complexity of each > intrument's part. what i realize now is that i hadn't been *listening* to > the songs, i had only heard them. most ppl don't *listen* to music. yes, > they hear to melody and the singing but they do not understand exactly what > is going on or the complexity/simplicity of the individual parts and then > putting those pieces together. From the standpoint of Fates' song structure, they are a band that illustrates the fact that sometimes less seems like more and can be more aurally exciting than a section of flailing 16th notes. A particular passage on one instrument may seem simply constructed on one hand, but when listened to in the context of the whole band it takes on new depth. > FW is what i call musician's music. i usually put DT into this group, tho DT > is easier for the normal, everyday person to hear. i'm not saying that DT is > easy to play or understand; i'm just saying that DT appeals more towards > non-musician types than FW. Being a guitarist, I see this too. FW did not appeal to me as much until several years ago when I actually began to realize how outright difficult it was to achieve what they and some other bands I admire are able to accomplish. IMHO Yngwie Malmsteen is also music for musicians. The complexity involved in the techniques he uses often works against him--in the way that this turns off many potential listeners. Personally, I see no reason to frown on someone who can pick as fast and craft such neo-classical melodies for the mere reason that I may never be able to scratch at his pedestal. It is the same way with DT for me. For those who are guitarists, sweep picking arpeggios isn't exactly an easy task--and I concentrated years on my own practicing it. > FW is an amazing group, but not for every listener. I thoroughly agree with you there. Best, Perry Grayson P.S. As another CA Ytsejammer, I'd like to mention I've had no ill effects from the flooding rains--which continue to pour... and pour--and still pour down more as the days go on! ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 24 Jan 95 17:18:21 PST From: "tdb" To: email_address_removed Subject: Re: MOD Message-ID: Graham B. asks: > What is a mod? A .MOD is sort of a cross between a MIDI sequence (.MID) and a digital sample (.WAV or .VOC). I believe they originated on the Amiga. Anyway, it's basically a bunch of list (or sequence) or commands which say "play this note at this time on this instrument". That's pretty much what a MIDI file is, too, but the difference is that a .MOD also contains the samples for all the instruments that it needs. The player program takes the sample and transposes it to whatever note it needs and plays that. This means that a .MOD should sound pretty much the same no matter what device you play it on - as opposed to a MIDI file which sounds radically different depending on what device it's played on (e.g. a Roland Sound Canvas vs. an Adlib card in a PC. - think how different Petrucci would sound on a $10 plastic guitar...) It also means that you can put in vocal samples. Did that make sense? -- Tim (if you are what you eat, does that mean that only cannibals are human?) ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 24 Jan 1995 22:14:54 EST From: "Debra D. Hanson 813-332-1969" To: "ytsejam@arastar.com" Subject: RE: am I the oldest Y'jammer? Message-ID: <<<>>> Let's hope there are 'jammers of all ages. I'm 36, and being on here with all the college students has been a tremendous pleasure! If I'd had Internet access when I was in college, I'd never have gone to class! But, hold on there, I don't think I'm ready for that cane yet! Deb email_address_removed "You'll find all you need in your mind..." ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 24 Jan 1995 22:28:59 -0500 (EST) From: Andrew Cloninger To: email_address_removed Cc: Multiple recipients of list Subject: Re: electric violins?? Message-ID: On Tue, 24 Jan 1995, Anthony wrote: > awhile back , one of our fellow ytsejammers posted about orchestrated DT and > proposed an idea about electric violins being used...i dont know how this would > sound but it started me thinking...the only song i know of that uses an > electric violin is "Losing It" by RUSH off of their album _Signals_. Does > anyone else know of any other prog music that uses electric violin(s)?? > thanks...id be really interested to know... Although I doubt that many people on this list will have heard the track, there is a song on Amy Grant's CD "Lead Me On" called "Wait for the Healing" that has an AMAZING progressive rock sound and a violin break a la "Losing it" in 7/4 even! If you have a chance to get hold of this CD, DO IT! (The bad thing is, she's done nothing remotely like this since ... ) Andrew P.S. Listen to just about ANY Kansas and youll hear that violin too!!! ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 24 Jan 1995 21:28:23 -0700 (MST) From: Michael Bahr To: email_address_removed Subject: Re: RUSH recommendations ? Message-ID: > Hi fellow jammers out there. > > Being a Dream Theater fan for a couple of years (yep, I also got > WDADU, if you still remember that thread;) and several other prog > bands, my attention has been brought to the music of Rush. I know that > most of you like Rush, so I find this the best place to ask for > recommendations. I currently have Fly by Night on vinyl and Permanent > waves on CD. Of the two I like PW best. It's hard to find old Rush, so Buy Moving Pictures. Buy Moving Pictures. Buy Moving Pictures. Buy Moving Pictures. Ad infinitum... :) Most people will agree it's the greatest album ever made. It will open you up to Rush like nothing else could... it hooked every Rush fan I know, every single one! :) Heck, the album's triple platinum WITHOUT counting copies and used CDs and the like, so millions of fans can't be wrong! :) (actually, isn't Snoop Doggy Dogg's album platinum too? I guess millions of people CAN be wrong. Terribly, horribly wrong.) But not about Moving Pictures! hehe > I'll probable by any of their albums as they become available, but > could you give me some pointers to which Rush albums should be > considered essential? After Moving Pictures, pick up A Farewell to Kings, Presto, Counterparts, and 2112. These will give you a very good sampler of several different "phases" of Rush, and those albums seem to erupt with an energy and rawness that is so quintessentially Rush that you will have that much better of a time with more refined, more laid back albums later, such as Hold Your Fire, Grace Under Pressure, et al. The song itself A Farewell to Kings is very highly representative of Rush, as is Xanadu, Closer to the Heart, The Pass, 2112, Something for Nothing, Animate, Cold Fire, and Presto itself. All of these can be found on those four "next thing to get" albums above. :) > Thanks in advance. On the contrary... thank YOU for joining in with the growing number of people who have been opened up to Rush! One day we WILL be heard... now that Elektra owns Atlantic (parent of Rush's Anthem) maybe they will get promoted worth something... Rush has been on the radio nonstop locally, including a lot of newer stuff. - + - + - + - + - + - + - + - + - + - + - + - + - + - + - + - + - + - + - + - Mike Bahr / email_address_removed / Dream Theater FAQ Editor / Rush! GL,AL,NP Morrigan - Priss - Nakoruru - Shaurotto - Felicia - Chun Li - Ranma-chan Shampoo - Nabiki - Mai Shiranui - Sylia - Kasumi - Ukyou - Cammy - Linna Nene - Misa - Lum - Min-may - Miyu - Mana - Marie Angel - Akane - Musika Himiko - Megumi - Jeanne Francoix - Akemi - Millia Farina - Vision - Tiita If only they came as good in real life as they come in anime'... - + - + - + - + - + - + - + - + - + - + - + - + - + - + - + - + - + - + - + - ------------------------------ Date: Tue Jan 24 22:51:56 1995 From: email_address_removed To: email_address_removed Subject: Re: am I the oldest Y'jammer? Message-ID: > >Uhm... uh, I'm 72. Does that make me the oldest? > >Nahh.... just kidding. I'm actually 16. While we're seeing who is the >oldest, can anyone beat my 16? (Or my royal-flush for that matter?) > I'm 42 and live by the motto that if it's too loud you're too old. And after all these years it's still not too loud. I'm a freelance live sound engineer and studio producer. Michael Lee Starr Fermi National Accelerator Lab ------------------------------ End of YTSEJAM Digest 661 *************************