YTSEJAM Digest 645 Today's Topics: 1) DT and Ytsejammer diversity by TOM.INMAN%email_address_removed 2) Another musical interests list by Mike Kinstrey 3) Trading blank tapes, my .sig by "Dan Tshin" 4) Dream Theater article by Robert J Weychert Jr 5) miscellanous by Andreas Kasper 6) Re: Dream Theater finding by BERTAPELLE ADAM RAYE 7) Re: DT and classical music/ot... by James Bako 8) Re: YTSEJAM digest 644 by Jeremy Longley 9) Re: MISSION:IMPOSSIBLE!! by Michael Bahr 10) Radio Email by email_address_removed (Zack Gemmill) 11) Pretty Maids by email_address_removed 12) Favorite music by email_address_removed (Paul Goracke) 13) Re: Indiana Jones Soundtrack by William T Bajzek 14) LIE single by Pat Daugherty 15) fates warning suggestions? by email_address_removed 16) To the person making copies of the Toronto show by "Mark A. Parker" 17) Favorite bands... & Your DT cover top 10 by email_address_removed 18) Re: fates warning suggestions? by email_address_removed (Dr. Mosh) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: 11 Jan 95 16:12:00 -0600 From: TOM.INMAN%email_address_removed To: email_address_removed Subject: DT and Ytsejammer diversity Message-ID: Hello fellow Ystejammers; It's great to hear about the vast diversity of musical taste among DT fans; it shows just how powerful their music is. It's also good for me since I probably break the mold of the "typical" (if there is one) Ytsejammer anyway (I'm "mid-'30's" and still rockin'). Anyway...I was quite interested in the message from Eric Gautier: > Also, just a thought: what if DT had a full symphonic orchestra at their >disposition? Not just like the "A Classic Case" series, where an orchestra >interprets some of the band's greatest hits: here the band would actually >write the songs with the orchestra in mind, and perform along with it. They >could also throw in some non-traditional instruments if they feel like it. Since one of my favorite bands from the early days was Deep Purple, this brought to mind their "Concerto for Group and Orchestra" from 1969. Some of you may not know, but at the time, this was a pretty bold move and many critics predicted that Purple would never "recover". Of course, 1970 and the "In Rock" album took care of those predictions. With respect to DT, I have come away from more than one show thinking how they remind me of early Purple Mk II (i.e. 1970-71); their musical talent of course, but also the "free jams" between songs that they throw in. Before Purple "settled" into the standard set used from late '71 on, spontaneous jams were always thrown into the set. I would *love* to see DT pull off a similar "Group & Orchestra" piece! I'll join the fray with my current favorites: Rush (of course!) Queensryche DT King's X Savatage (especially "Edge of Thorns" and "Streets") Yes (check out "Talk") Alice in Chains Fates Warning Old favorites: Purple, Sabbath, Rush, Floyd, Rainbow, Yes, Priest, Budgie, Heep, Scorpions, Maiden, Zeppelin, AC/DC, Marillion, Van Halen, ELP, and many others... I was amazed to see a lot of you name the same favorite classical pieces and composers as I would have; I wonder what common "thread" attracts us to these particular pieces? (Right - they're all excellent, I know...) Sorry about the length- Tom Inman email_address_removed ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 11 Jan 95 17:23:27 -0500 From: Mike Kinstrey To: email_address_removed Subject: Another musical interests list Message-ID: I've been a lurker on this list for awhile now, but had to add my musical interests to this discussion. I play guitar, so my musical interests are usually centered around good guitar playing, be it electric or acoustic. Bands like Dream Theater, Queensryche, Dokken, early Van Halen get played the most often, with Ozzy, Extreme, Stevie Ray Vaughan, and Melissa Ethridge close behind. Given that, I also enjoy Molly Hatchet, Ted Nugent, Madonna (I don't like the persona, but she can write great dance tunes), Journey, Robert Plant, Kenny G, Eagles, and the Beach Boys. In addition to that, I love flamenco guitar, and am starting to get into some jazz guitar music. When practicing guitar, I get inspired by all these styles. I wish I could play them all well. My wife's music interests include Broadway showtunes, classical music like Beethoven, Bach, YoYo Ma (my wife plays cello), to Meatloaf, B-52s. Much of *it* I like too. Back to lurking again... Mike __________________________________________________________________________ Mike Kinstrey (518)385-8214 "...like Houston. It's 180 degrees, email_address_removed but it's a dry heat." email_address_removed - "Space-Dye Vest", Dream Theater __________________________________________________________________________ ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 11 Jan 1995 17:42:33 -0500 From: "Dan Tshin" To: email_address_removed Subject: Trading blank tapes, my .sig Message-ID: >> Michael Burstin mentioned that there are people on the >>list who are willing to trade for blank tapes to help people start up >>their DT collections. If such people indeed exist, could they please >>e-mail me with the details? > >Please E-mail me too! Hi, I don't know where the original post was, but I'd like to trade blank tapes to start my DT collection. Hmm... My sig... well, I actually *borrowed* it off someone that had been (maybe still is) on Ytsejam. I haven't seen him around, but his full sig is (lemme search the old digests...) Wait, I'm wrong, he was just on, he wrote about FW opening for DT in Digest 642 (yesterday's) Here is his .sig: ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ ---- Freedom belongs only to those without video screens for eyes and mouth -- ---------------------- Queensryche - Screaming In Digital -------------------- ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ - Peace comes through thinking with our hearts and not with words. Until then ----------------- we'll light another candle for this world. ----------------- ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Till 'Tillroy' Wagner Elisabethenstr. 42f; D-63225 Langen; Germany Well Till, where does it come from?? Hope you don't mind me using it, it's a quotation I really like. Besides that, I must cut my .sig down, it's way too large and takes too much bandwidth! Happy ytsejamming! -------------------------------Dan Tshin------------------------------+ .. "gO aGaInSt ThE fLoW" | _ _ | . /o--\/ ----> email_address_removed <---- | ( /V\ ) | \___/\ Shad Valley Carleton '94 SuRvIvOr | M | Shad WWW: http://www.civeng.carleton.ca/Shad/homepage.html | | | Shad Bio http://www.civeng.carleton.ca/Shad/dtshin.html | | =+-+=+-+=+-+=+-+=+-+=+-+=+-+=+-+=+-+=+-+=+-+=+-+=+-+=+-+=+-=+ "Ryche" | Peace comes through thinking with our hearts and not with | words. Until then we'll light another candle for this world. | Love is the Dance of Eternity - Dream Theatre "Images and Words" | ----------------------------------------------------------------------+ ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 11 Jan 1995 19:49:19 -0500 (EST) From: Robert J Weychert Jr To: email_address_removed, email_address_removed Subject: Dream Theater article Message-ID: Hello all, this is an article taken from RIP magazine, July 1993. I thought you all might find it interesting. Enjoy! :) What a difference chart position makes. For Dream Theater's first video, for the song "Pull Me Under," "They told us an hour before we went on, 'Oh, we're shooting tonight,'" recalls guitarist John Petrucci. "I was pissed 'cause I hadn't shaved, and we didn't have any clothes." He shrugs. "It didn't matter; you couldn't see us anyway. It was all hair and strobes." The one identifiable piece of clothing was lead singer James LaBrie's Napalm Death t-shirt. Ironically, "I still haven't listened to them," James admits. "But I met Barney, their lead vocalist, and he was a really cool guy." "I'm the only one who's seen them," says drummer Mike Portnoy. "Barney loves Dream Theater. I think it's incredible that they listen to a band like us. It says a lot for their open-mindedness. He gave us a bunch of t-shirts. James just happened to be wearing one that night. Barney called me up a few weeks later" --he imitates the grindcore master's deep, British- accented growl--"'Hey, tell James wearing that shirt in the video, that's great.'" But this was all before Dream Theater started edging up toward the Top 40. Now a video director is trying to talk them out of wearing all black. Too Procol Harum, he says. "We ARE Procol Harum," Portnoy smirks. "What do you normally wear?" the director asks the drummer, who lifts his shirt to reveal his bare chest, hoping to be excused from this afternoon's shopping expedition. No such luck. They're off enmasse to the downtown L.A. warehouse of a shirtmaker. The stylist is playing show-and-tell with a bunch of necklaces she got in Mexico, while theband wisecracks about the scenery. "Look, it's a Napalm Deatht-shirt," laughs Kevin as the van passes a Hollywood Boulevard shop. "Made famous by James LaBrie." "Rock Star Accessories," quips Petrucci about another store stocked with studded leather jackets and spandex dresses. "I'd rather go to [upscale N.Y. department store] Bloomingdale's and get a cool silk shirt." Yes, in an era when most multi- platinum sellers are going for plaid flannel from the Salvation Army, Dream Theater are on their own path, both in culture and sound, mixing prog-rock influences like Rush and Yes with Queensryche and speed-metal aggressiveness. "This music will never be cool, like grunge or industrial," says keyboardist Kevin Moore, and if that bothers them, you coulda fooled me. "Our fans are more real," says Mike. "It's not like we're part of a trend or anything. With the Seattle bands, after a while it becomes trendy and everybody starts to lump them together and starts liking them just because of the kind of music it is, not because they like the individual band. So it's probably better this way." Off the freeway and into the scuzzy area that surrounds L.A.'s wholesale garment district. We get lost for a bit and also lose a second car that's carrying some of the Dreamers. Upon our arrival at the warehouse, a panhandler hits on bassist John Myung the moment we get out of the van. A coffin- sized elevator opens into a slightly more posh reception area. "Is there a building in L.A. that doesn't have a full-length mirror?" grumbles Kevin. We're led into a warehouse full of shirts that range from great to horrifically garish. "Look at this," Petrucci quips. "I was looking for something in a mustard polka-dot." "Um, early Maui," grins Myung, fingering a loud, flowered extravaganza. As Keving discovers pants with an alligator motif, Portnoy and Labrie emerge from the mini-vator. "We saw this bum screaming for about ten minutes," Mike announces. "We were watching him." The shirts don't interest him one bit, so he takes this opportunity to use the manufacturer's phone for a chat with his grandma. Mike is close to his family. In fact, his dad is driving to Dream Theater's show at the Palace tonight, all the way downfrom Monterey, site of the original Dream Theater, a movie house whose name the band copped after their first moniker, Majesty, turned out to be copyrighted by someone else. This was back in 1988, when nobody cared what color shirts they wore. Petrucci and Myung met while they were students at the prestigious Berklee College of Music. "I wanted to meet people to do what I'm doing now," Petrucci explains, "but as long as I was there, I wanted to learn as much as I could about music." Later he used hi formal training to support himself as a guitar teacher. "It totally kept me on top of my technique, because you have to present ideas to your students, and they have to respect you. But when I built it up so muchI was making a living at it, I didn't look forward to it anymore. It was just like work." Still, it beat McDonald's. At the time Dream Theater were stuck in the quagmire their first label deal and disc, "When Dream and Day Unite", turned out to be. "Mechanic [Records] didn't have any money," says Mike, and parent company MCA wasn't forthcoming either. Dream Theater had found themselves without tour support and increasingly at odds with their then-lead singer, Charlie Dominici. "His whole delivery wasn't in synch with what we were doing," Mike claims. "It was like Billy Joel trying to sing with Queensryche." Major changes were clearly in order. "We asked to get dropped from the label," Portnoy remembers. "They weren't going to let us go, so we had to settle it under the table." Then they parted company with Charlie. "The experience totally changed us," says Petrucci. "It tested us as a band--to stay together, keep our heads clear, find the right vocalist and keep a good business head. The content of the entire 'Images and Words' album is reflective of our lives during the three years we were dealing with it." In the meantime, James' band, Winter Rose, was touring his native Canada with his friend Lee Aaron. "She, unbeknownst to me, brought our tape in to Aquarius Records, who called me about a solo deal and then brought Dream Theater to my attention," James recalls. Both parties were immediately taken with one another, and Atco Records, already interested in the band, were sold on the new 'n' improved package. Still, it was a surprise when the eight-minute-long "Pull Me Under" began to get substantial air- and MTV-play. "We thought we'd maybe get some college radio that would sete up the singles that would be released later," says James. Instead, their lives have been kicked into the hyperspeed that's de rigueur for the suddenly hot. Having finally located half a dozen cool shirts among the atrocities, they're off for a hasty dinner before soundcheck. Sweet's "Ballroom Blitz" comes on the van radio. Petrucci doesn't recognize it. "What, you weren't alive in the 70s?" snipes Portnoy. "That was a classic." A moment later he muses, "You think in 2010 somebody's going to be listening to Ugly Kid Joe on the radio going, 'You weren't alive in the 90s?'" He remembers the last time he was driving around L.A. Seems he spotted a woman with great-looking big hair in the car ahead of him. "I'm thinking, 'That's a mint chick. I gotta check her out.'" He pulled up alongside the car, only to discover that his dream girl was a huge, shaggy DOG! Back in Hollywood, most of the guys head for the chuck wagon while Mike hooks up with his dad, a jovial man clearly thrilled about Mike's success. They arrive at soundcheck to find everything a mess. Tech guys are running around, moving monitors and staircases, testing equipment and fiddling with lights. Even on a club stage, Dream Theater are believers in the The Big Show--rock 'n' roll as something grandiose and larger-than-life, right down to the exit music. "Usually, when a band is done playing an intense set, the deejay will start playing Metallica, and there's no room for breathing," says Mike. "We play the theme from "Twin Peaks", just to keep everyone depressed." He's a rabid fan of director David Lynch--so much so that he has the Log Lady's mysterious tattoo duplicated on his own leg. "I'm a very compulsive person," he admits. "I have a couple of thousand movies, CDs. I'm the one who tapes all the shows onto DAT and video and collects all the articles." Does this attitude extend to music? "We're all very meticulous about music, business and creative decisions," says Kevin. "That's one of the greatest things about this band, but it's also one of the worst. Five members have an equal say, and nothing gets by without everybody's approval. Everyone gets a chance for input, but it also creates a million arguments." Not of the tantrum-throwing variety, however. "Nobody yells, but it goes on for so long," laughs Mike. "After a while you just get disgusted. A half hour later, three days later..." Out front, a crowd is gathering--metalheads, Sunset Strip babes, serious guys with that I-practice- guitar-nine-hours-day look, and an unexpected older contingent, yuppies and Valley couples who probably dug Rush when they were in their teens. The crush of fans is a clear sign that sweeping, traditional progressive metal is far from dead, grunge movement or no grunge movement. Dream Theater, getting ready backstage, know this. Their mutual, oft-articulated ambition is to get to the arena level their stately music was made for. But James has one other item on his to-do list. "Some time soon," he says with a grin, "I definitely am going to give Napalm Death a listen." ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 11 Jan 1995 16:22:30 GMT+100 From: Andreas Kasper To: email_address_removed Subject: miscellanous Message-ID: Hello! Just a few things to let you know. recommendations : THRESHOLD - WOUNDED LAND I think someone else already mentioned Threshold a few days ago. This is a perfect album for fans of progressive metal. They are really strong in their vocals and their keyboardist fits in really well. They have a newer release - PSYCHEDELICATESSEN - which is out for some weeks now and is reported to be heavier and less progressive - anybody out there already checked it out? I'm gonna get it anyway, 'cause I like "WOUNDED LAND" so much. ANYONE OUT THERE ALREADY FAMILIAR WITH "PSYCHEDELICATESSEN" ??? ANGRA - ANGELS CRY Faster than Threshold, they somehow remind me of Helloween's good old "Keeper Of The Seven Keys" albums. Again, a great vocalist. I also like the orchestration a lot. They also have a symphonic intro - just like Helloween on their "Keeper" albums. I think "Angels Cry" is their only release. TIAMAT - WILDHONEY Tiamat is a former Death-Metal-Band who has become more progressive now - I think that's due to some line-up changes. Some people might remember the discussion about Cynic's "Focus" - THIS is death metal, IMHO, but Tiamat is more progressive and less death metal. Oh, well, I myself still have to get used to their still- a-little-death-metal vocals. Next subject : TOWHTSTS and other acronyms Now everybody knows what TOWHTSTS means, so I like to add a few more: ATCOOBS - albums to check out or buy soon ATBASATAR - albums to buy as soon as they are released To explain this a bit : Threshold's "PSYCHEDELICATESSEN" is on my ATCOOBS-list, whereas the new DT-EP which is going to be released this year (hopefully soon) definitely belongs to the ATBASATAR. TJWILTPH (That's just what I like to post here). on the classical music subject : My favorite composer is Beethoven, and I mostly like his symphonies, especially Symphony #6 (Pastorale). Anybody familiar with it? As I'm not sure if my last message made it to YTSEJAM, I post part of it again right now. Please, don't mind if you've already read this. Thanks! - Andreas - ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 11 Jan 1995 18:52:42 -0700 (MST) From: BERTAPELLE ADAM RAYE To: email_address_removed Subject: Re: Dream Theater finding Message-ID: The video you found with Pantera and Dream Theater was "Rock Video Monthly", right? I subscribed to that for a while, and the Heavy Metal edition had VERY Heavy Metal (Sepultura, Napalm Death, Cannibal Corpse, etc." -Adam ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 11 Jan 1995 20:56:54 -0500 (EST) From: James Bako To: email_address_removed Subject: Re: DT and classical music/ot... Message-ID: Re: [my long list of bands I like that I posted earlier....] From: email_address_removed > I guess your neighborhood CD store is cleaned out? From: email_address_removed >Is there anything you don't like?!?!?!? What can I say, except that I have broad tastes? It was hard trying to condense that list, being that my CD collection hovers about the 500-600 figure. Stuff I don't like: top 40, country, and cheesy death/black metal. James ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 12 Jan 1995 02:03:46 +0000 (GMT) From: Jeremy Longley To: email_address_removed Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 644 Message-ID: some of the CDs near the top of my desk: (other than DT) Mr Big - Lean into it. Megadeth - Youthanasia G'n'R - Appetite for Destruction (their only album that I like) Dave Lee Roth - Eat 'em and Smile Pink Floyd - The division bell Extreme - III sides Joe Satriani - the time machine Steve Vai - Passion and Warfare (pure genius, surely..) [ps I'd _REALLY_ like to know about that February UK date...] Cheerz, Jezza. _ _ (_)___ ________ _| | Jeremy Longley - email_address_removed.ac.uk | / -_)_ /_ / _` |_| Selwyn College _/ \___/__/__\__,_(_) Cambridge Sattinger's Law: |__/ It works better if you plug it in... ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 11 Jan 1995 19:47:39 -0700 (MST) From: Michael Bahr To: email_address_removed Subject: Re: MISSION:IMPOSSIBLE!! Message-ID: > hello!! hello!! I'm a JAPANESE jammer. > This is my first post. Thank you! Koinichii wa Kuniyuki-san! Welcome to the Ytsejam. (actually, I can't speak Japanese at all.. I just know what I have learned from anime/manga, which is a little). How many Ytsejammers do we have now from the land of the Rising Sun? Twenty? Mike Bahr, email_address_removed ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 11 Jan 95 19:12:34 PST From: email_address_removed (Zack Gemmill) To: email_address_removed Subject: Radio Email Message-ID: I sent a message and thus KSJO responded: ======== Fwd by: Solid Rock an ======== ======== Fwd by: Dana Jang ======== Zach, Thanks for your note on the Internet...KSJO is proud to be the only station ^^^^^^^^^^^^ in Northern California to play Dream Theater. ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ I guess this is standard fare, but what about 104.1 (Stockton/Modesto) and KRXQ 93 Rock in Sacramento (the station that tops `em all, IMO)? Maybye I'll apply for a job in Sac... I'll pass your comments on to Uncle Nasty. Thanks again for the input. Dana Jang, KSJO And ======== Fwd by: Solid Rock an ======== ======== Fwd by: Greg Stone ======== I'm just one man, hey remember I"m not the boss! But I bet I can turn you on to some Dream Theater. peace and thanks for listening. Nasty So, they are listening. If you live within broadcast range, send a message! Zach ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 11 Jan 1995 21:37:34 -0500 From: email_address_removed To: email_address_removed Subject: Pretty Maids Message-ID: >>>Someone said a few days ago that one of the bands they liked was Pretty Maids! I didn't think anyone else had ever heard of them? Are they still together? What was there last CD?<<< Actually, I was the one to mention Pretty Maids. I got introduced to them from my husband - and he'd received a copy from a friend of his. We both enjoy the tape so much that about six months ago, we tried to look them up on the Muze at Tower. That was a depressing day: everything we looked up (Fates Warning, Dream Theater, and Pretty Maids) was out-of-print. Well, later, we were able to track down Fates (the old stuff was reissued) and Dream Theater (WDADU came from a used/specialty shop), but no luck in the Pretty Maids department. : ( It's tough to get dubbed copies 'cause no one seems to have heard of 'em! Better hope our tape doesn't break then... I'm quite fond of driving with it - it just strikes me as good music for zipping down the freeway! Jen ***************************************************************** "Could we see clearer in a virtual reality?" * Magellan "I am the beat of your pulse, the computer word made flesh." * Queensryche email_address_removed email_address_removed ***************************************************************** ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 11 Jan 1995 21:32:58 -0800 From: email_address_removed (Paul Goracke) To: email_address_removed Subject: Favorite music Message-ID: Oh, how I usually abhor these things. I tried to hold out, really I did. So, in alpha order, cause that's the way they sit on the wall: Anthrax, Blues Traveler, Boiled in Lead, Clapton, Crash Test Dummies, Robert Cray, Curve, Danzig, Miles Davis, DT, Tinsley Ellis, Gear Daddies, Genesis, Golden Earring, Stuart Hamm, Mickey Hart, Hendrix, Iron Maiden, Tull, Billy Joel, Eric Johnson, Kansas, King's X, Marillion, Megadeth, Metallica, Ministry, Bob Mould, New Model Army, NIN, Michael Penn, Pink Floyd, Primus, Police, Queensryche, Bonnie Raitt, Ray & Glover, Replacements, Rush, Satriani, Screaming Trees, Sisters of Mercy, Smashing Pumpkins, Soundgarden, Sugar, Andy Summers, Therapy?, Toad the Wet Sprocket, Urge Overkill, Vai, SRV, Roger Waters, Muddy Waters, Zappa (Frank and Dweezil) Classical (yes, I do keep them separate - different moods): Bach, Dvorak, Handel, Mahler, Mozart (esp. Requiem), Orff, Arvo Part, Rachmaninoff .. and the other 2/3 of my collection which doesn't spend quite as much time trickling into my brain. Very few soundtracks do it for me. ..my two cents (hey, somebody slipped a Canadian one in on me.. now how am I supposed to get rid of _that_? :^) -Paul "Beaten paths are for beaten men." - _Unix Shell Programming_ ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 11 Jan 1995 22:50:44 -0500 (EST) From: William T Bajzek To: email_address_removed Subject: Re: Indiana Jones Soundtrack Message-ID: Excerpts from ytsejam: 11-Jan-95 Indiana Jones Soundtrack by email_address_removed > The soundtrack for the Last Crusade blows away the Star Wars sndtrk. Does > anyone else agree? Just my 2 cents. > Belly of the Steel Beast blows away pretty much everything else john williams has done by itself, imo you know that the blood you shall reap-william email_address_removed is the blood that you shall sow--golgotha--http://www.contrib.andrew. till the rivers run red----symphony in extremis---cmu.edu/u/wb2a/home and there's nothing left at all-arr!-stuff-hahahaha--busy... me? HAHA -cds for sale: http://www.contrib.andrew.cmu.edu/u/wb2a/cdsale.html- guitars, not-very-impressive backing vocals, and songwriter, aepithix ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 11 Jan 1995 23:06:47 -0500 (EST) From: Pat Daugherty To: Dream Theater Subject: LIE single Message-ID: cdconnection.com now has the European LIE single for $11+ they also have the train of consequences by Megadeth for the same price if anyone is interested. no fates though:( Pat Daugherty email_address_removed "Every breath leaves me one less to my last" --Dream Theater "That is not an option, Mr. Mulder" --X-Files ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 12 Jan 95 0:40:55 EST From: email_address_removed To: email_address_removed Subject: fates warning suggestions? Message-ID: Ok, it's time for me to display my total ignorance. I've seen lots of people here mentioning this band, so I've been considering checking them out. Do they only have one album available right now or more? If it's more than one, would anyone care to make suggestions on what I should look into first? Gary Schrock email_address_removed ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 12 Jan 1995 01:58:45 -0500 From: "Mark A. Parker" To: email_address_removed Subject: To the person making copies of the Toronto show Message-ID: Sometime in December someone offered to make copies of the Toronto show. I'll be damned if I can remember who it was. Anyways, I sent what I was supposed to, but haven't heard anything from you yet. If you were doing this and can contact me, please do so. Else I will be checking my Ytse-jam back issues for addresses for the next few days and see if I can figure out who. Dom'ny ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 12 Jan 1995 02:38:25 -0400 (EDT) From: email_address_removed To: email_address_removed Subject: Favorite bands... & Your DT cover top 10 Message-ID: Since everyone else has posted favorites, figured I might as well too! Also with all the bands being listed, I got to thinking about what covers I'd like to see Dream Theater perform at that "secret gig" (if I was in the UK...). So how 'bout it, anyone have a top-ten list of covers you'd like to see performed by DT. I'll give mine after some favorite bands of mine. I like most kinds of music, however my CD collection (1100 and counting, not a misprint, I won a contest a few years back, $5000 worth of CDs, was a nice feeling to walk into the store and say "give me these, and not having to reach for the wallet) is mostly rock/metal and I listen to the radio when I'm in the mood for something else. Some favorite bands are: Van Halen (Mostly DLR era, Sammy's ok too) Dream Theater, Rush, Aerosmith, Dokken, Queensryche, Extreme, Zebra Priest (early to mid 80's), Maiden (up to 7thson), Whitesnake Scorpions, Satriani, The Moores (Gary & Vinnie), MacAlpine, Vai early Ying-Yang Malmsteen (Alcatrazz & first 3 or 4 solos) Kansas, Prophet (NJ band with DT qualities, went the pop-metal route on their CDs, still good though, in fact one of their songs has a guitar solo that is very close to the solo in Another Day...) Foreigner, Cheap Trick, Boston, Zeppelin, Nugent... Definately a straight ahead rock-type... But on the radio, I'll listen to anything except rap & country, strictly for a change of pace. Here goes my top-10 covers list: (No particular order) 1. Rush - Side One of Hemispheres (ok, not one song, but DT likes the 'roman-numeral" songs as well : ) ) 2. Iron Maiden - Trooper 3. Judas Priest - Victim of changes 4. Zebra - Who's Behind the door 5. Kansas - The Wall 6. Van Halen - Feel your love tonight 7. Dregs - Cruise Control (w. Guest app by Steve Morse, a big fan of DT and John P.) Into solo by John P. consisting of: a. Eruption -VH / b. Satch Boogie - Satriani (both w/ band) c. for the love of God - Vai d. Broons Bane-Rush e. Beg. of Lavilla Strang. - Rush f. Beg. of Sails of Charon - Scorpions (w/ Band) 8. Song on Vinnie Moore's first album w/ keyboards that remind me of the keyboard solo in Take the Time (sorry, can't remember title) 9. YYZ - Rush Including Mike doing drum solo from Exit Stage left in middle of song... 10. What's on my mind/ Carry on Wayward Son/ Rest of Leftoverture- Kansas (album reminds me very much of DT... 9. Pink Floyd - Mother, particularly for the solo 10. Queensryche - ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 12 Jan 1995 00:49:27 PST From: email_address_removed (Dr. Mosh) To: email_address_removed Subject: Re: fates warning suggestions? Message-ID: No... fates warning has seven studio albums... here's a discography. Early FW sounds maidenish with a progressive sound to it... Beginning on No Exit they begin to morph into the new sound. Perfect Symmetry some would argue as the most progressive album ever made by any band... Parallels is also a masterpiece.. then Inside Out... ****************************************************************************** FATES WARNING DISCOGRAPHY Compiled by Mike Borella ****************************************************************************** TITLE: Night on Brocken RELEASE INFO: 1984 CD US Metal Blade Records 71103-2 MUSICIANS: John Arch - Vocals Jim Matheos - Guitars Victor Arduini - Guitars Joe DiBiase - Bass Steve Zimmerman - Drums TRACKS: 1) Buried Alive 4:35 2) The Calling 5:04 3) Kiss of Death 4:39 4) Night on Brocken 5:28 5) S.E.K. 1:12 6) Misfit 5:06 7) Shadowfax 3:15 8) Damnation 6:27 9) Soldier Boy 6:34 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ TITLE: The Spectre Within RELEASE INFO: 1985 CD US Metal Blade Records 72088-2 MUSICIANS: John Arch - Vocals Jim Matheos - Guitars Victor Arduini - Guitars Joe DiBiase - Bass Steve Zimmerman - Drums TRACKS: 1) Traveller in Time 7:11 2) Orphan Gypsy 6:00 3) Without a Trace 4:50 4) Pirates of the Underground 7:07 5) The Apparition 5:50 6) Kyrie Eleison 5:27 7) Epitaph 12:00 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ TITLE: Awaken the Guardian RELEASE INFO: 1986 CD US Metal Blade Records CDE-73231 MUSICIANS: John Arch - Vocals Jim Matheos - Guitars Frank Aresti - Guitars Joe DiBiase - Bass Steve Zimmerman - Drums TRACKS: 1) The Sorceress 5:42 2) Velley of the Dolls 5:22 3) Fata Morgana 5:21 4) Guardian 7:31 5) Prelude to Ruin 7:21 6) Giants Lore (Heart of Winter) 6:00 7) Time Long Past 1:40 8) Exodus 8:35 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ TITLE: No Exit RELEASE INFO: 1988 CD US Metal Blade Records D2-73330 MUSICIANS: Ray Alder - Vocals Jim Matheos - Guitars Frank Aresti - Guitars Joe DiBiase - Bass Steve Zimmerman - Drums TRACKS: 1) No Exit 0:40 2) Anarchy Divine 3:46 3) Silent Cries 3:17 4) In a Word 4:25 5) Shades of Heavenly Death 5:56 6) The Ivory Gate of Dreams 21:25 a) Innocence [1:13] b) Cold Daze [2:15] c) Daylight Dreams [3:06] d) Quietus [4:25] e) Ivory Tower [3:17] f) Whispers on the Wind [2:24] g) Acquiesence [4:24] h) Retrospect [1:01] ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ TITLE: Perfect Symmetry RELEASE INFO: 1989 CD US Metal Blade Records 7 73408-2 MUSICIANS: Ray Alder - Vocals Jim Matheos - Guitars Frank Aresti - Guitars Joe DiBiase - Bass Mark Zonder - Drums TRACKS: 1) Part of the Machine 6:15 2) Through Different Eyes 4:21 3) Static Acts 4:27 4) A World Apart 5:03 5) At Fates Hands 6:58 6) The Arena 3:17 7) Chasing Time 3:38 8) Nothing Left to Say 7:57 NOTES: Keyboards on At Fates Hands by Kevin Moore of Dream Theatre, violins on At Fates Hands by Faith Fraeoli. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ TITLE: Parallels RELEASE INFO: 1991 CD US Metal Blade Records 9 26698-2 MUSICIANS: Ray Alder - Vocals Jim Matheos - Guitars Frank Aresti - Guitars Joe DiBiase - Bass Mark Zonder - Drums TRACKS: 1) Leave the Past Behind 6:14 2) Life in Still Water 5:44 3) Eye to Eye 4:06 4) The Eleventh Hour 8:12 5) Point of View 5:07 6) We Only Say Goodbye 4:56 7) Don't Follow Me 4:42 8) The Road Goes on Forever 6:32 NOTES: Guest Vocals on Life in Still Water by James Labrie of Dream Theatre. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ TITLE: Inside Out RELEASE INFO: 1994 CD US Metal Blad Records P2 53915 MUSICIANS: Ray Alder - Vocals Jim Matheos - Guitars Frank Aresti - Guitars Joe DiBiase - Bass Mark Zonder - Drums TRACKS: 1) Outside Looking In 4:50 2) Pale Fire 4:17 3) The Strand 5:29 4) Shelter Me 4:45 5) Island in the Stream 6:30 6) Down to the Wire 4:30 7) Face the Fear 5:37 8) Inward Bound 2:34 9) Monument 6:34 10) Afterglow 3:26 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ (email_address_removed) other recordings: "At Fates Fingers" - Guitar for the Practicing Musician CD Volume 4 Fully instrumental re-mix of "At Fates Hands" "Kyrie Eleison" - River's Edge soundtrack. 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