YTSEJAM Digest 624 Today's Topics: 1) Re: I&W & Awake by Eijk.Oscar.van@uniface.nl (Oscar van Eijk) 2) QR-tour; Oblivion Knight by email_address_removed.de 3) Videos wanted by email_address_removed.de 4) QR dates anyone? by Ed Reed 5) I&W vs. Awake vs. WDADU by John Mastin 6) LIE - maxi vinyl by email_address_removed (Alex Reinelt) 7) Re: I&W & Awake by email_address_removed 8) Taping Shows by text string 9) Re: I&W & Awake by Stephan Dobay 10) Lie UK single release by email_address_removed 11) UK Tour Dates by email_address_removed.co.uk (Mark Tiplady) 12) Re: I&W & Awake by William Wright 13) DT Tour Date Master List by "Brian V. Cox" ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Wed, 21 Dec 1994 10:00:43 +0100 From: Eijk.Oscar.van@uniface.nl (Oscar van Eijk) To: email_address_removed Subject: Re: I&W & Awake Message-ID: <94122110004331@uniface.nl> In my opinion, the main difference between I&W and Awake, is that I&W is a collection of songs, while Awake is a real album; theme's from one song return in another, the whole album is in balance. Awake is not the kind of album you play with your CD-player on 'shuffle'. Oscar. Btw. From everybody on this list to everybody on this list (so we don't need *ev'rybody* to send this message:-}); Merry Xmas --------- Abandon Hope Oscar van Eijk All Ye O s c a r VMS Systems Administrator Who Enter Here oscar@uniface.nl Uniface Advanced Technology BV Amsterdam ZO, the Netherlands ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 21 Dec 1994 14:01:12 +0100 (MEZ) From: email_address_removed.de To: email_address_removed (ytsejam) Subject: QR-tour; Oblivion Knight Message-ID: Hello, soneone asked for the Queensryche tourdates. Here they are as posted in the QR-diggest 'Screaming In Digital'. February - Europe Feb 09, 1995 - Barrowland, Glasgow UK Feb 10, 1995 - Apollo, Manchester UK Feb 11, 1995 - City Hall, Sheffield UK Feb 13, 1995 - Royal Concert Hall, Nottingham UK Feb 14, 1995 - Civic Hall, Wolverhampton UK Feb 16, 1995 - Town & Country Club, Leeds UK Feb 17, 1995 - Centre, Newport UK Feb 19, 1995 - Forest National, Brussels BE Feb 20, 1995 - Elysee Montmartre, Paris FR Feb 22, 1995 - Hugenottenhalle, Neu Isenberg DE Feb 23, 1995 - Capitol, Hannover DE Feb 24, 1995 - Grosse Freiheit, Hamburg DE Feb 26, 1995 - Cirkus, Stockholm SE Feb 27, 1995 - KB Halle, Copenhagen, DE Feb 28, 1995 - Huxley's Neue Welt, Berlin DE March - Europe Mar 01, 1995 - Congress Centrum, Stuttgart DE Mar 03, 1995 - Palalido, Milan IT Mar 04, 1995 - Volkshaus, Zurich CH Mar 05, 1995 - Terminal 1, Munich DE Mar 07, 1995 - E-Werk, Cologne DE Mar 08, 1995 - Ahoy, Rotterdam NL Mar 10, 1995 - Royal Albert Hall, London UK March - Japan Mar 16, 1995 - Kose Nenkin Hall, Tokyo JP Mar 17, 1995 - Osawka JP Mar 18, 1995 - Sun Palace, Fukuoka JP Mar 20, 1995 - Sun Plaza, Tokyo JP Mar 22, 1995 - T-21, Sendai Zumi JP Mar 23, 1995 - Club Chitta, Kawasaki JP Mar 24, 1995 - Kanni-Hoken Hall, Tokyo JP BTW, does anybody know the demotape from Oblivion Knight??? I'm just asking because Chriss Collins has done the vocals after he left Majesty, and it is verry good. Later -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- ---- Freedom belongs only to those without video screens for eyes and mouth ---- ---------------------- Queensryche - Screaming In Digital ---------------------- -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- - Peace comes through thinking with our hearts and not with words. Until then - ----------------- we'll light another candle for this world. ------------------- -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Till 'Tillroy' Wagner Elisabethenstr. 42f; D-63225 Langen; Germany ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 21 Dec 1994 14:04:50 +0100 (MEZ) From: email_address_removed.de To: email_address_removed (ytsejam) Subject: Videos wanted Message-ID: I'm searching for PAL-Videos of Dream Theater (Awake-tour, limelight-show) and Queensryche (Empire-tour and Show-Cases Promissed Land) -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- ---- Freedom belongs only to those without video screens for eyes and mouth ---- ---------------------- Queensryche - Screaming In Digital ---------------------- -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- - Peace comes through thinking with our hearts and not with words. Until then - ----------------- we'll light another candle for this world. ------------------- -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Till 'Tillroy' Wagner Elisabethenstr. 42f; D-63225 Langen; Germany ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 21 Dec 1994 04:59:31 -0600 (CST) From: Ed Reed To: email_address_removed Subject: QR dates anyone? Message-ID: Sorry if this is off topic, but I've already gotten my taste of Dream Theater and Fates Warning live on their current tour, so anyone know when Queensryche is planning a tour? Anybody out there got some dates for me? And one more thing: I think I heard mention of DT coming back to the states for some more touring, if so anyone got dates for that because I would love to see them again. Thanks... Ed. /----------------------------------------------------------------------\ | Religion and sex are powerplays, | email_address_removed | | Manipulate the people for the money they pay, | email_address_removed | | Selling skin, selling god, | | | The numbers look the same on their credit card.| Ed! | \---- Queensryche -- Spreading the Disease -----------------------/ ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 21 Dec 1994 08:57:41 -0500 From: John Mastin To: email_address_removed Subject: I&W vs. Awake vs. WDADU Message-ID: <199412211357.IAA14060@cybertron> OK Doc, Well, I guess I'm partial to I&W being that it was the first DT stuff I ever owned. I bought Awake the first day it came out and it is growing on me... Being a relative newbie, I have never heard WDADU (yes, sad but true!!!!) I plan to get it in the coming year once the Christmas fiasco is over and done with. I did see the live in Tokyo tape and I must say that I was blown away with their live musicianship! They appear to be as awesome in concert as they are in the studio. I missed the east coast leg of this tour (I joined the list after they were done playing in the area... what a double loser I am! :D ) I do plan to see them when they come back to the east coast. (Anybody know when?) I think that Kevin Moore will be sorely missed. He was a part of the whole machine that made DT. Perhaps they will make amends and come back. Being a keyboard player, I was blown away by his work. I'm sure that Derek subs in nicely but there is no substitute for the real thing. His songwriting is awesome and so is his playing. The next guy will have some BIG shoes to fill. 'Nuff said. BTW, to all of you people out there that ordered Ytsejam shirts. I received mine and I must say, IT IS AWESOME!!!!! Thanks, Jason! Johnny ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 21 Dec 94 16:40:09 MET From: email_address_removed (Alex Reinelt) To: email_address_removed Subject: LIE - maxi vinyl Message-ID: HI ytsejammers.... Though I havent listened to it yet, I just want to say, that I am very please to find the LIE vinyl maxi single here in the heart of munich just like every other record - it just stood there under "d" for 15marks (about $10), course I bought it, like i did allready with the Lie maxi cd. Yes, my vinyl comes also with the fanzine and this TTT-demo tune... its christmas..... Freak ( Alexander Reinelt from Munich/Germany ) email_address_removed Alex_Reinelt@2:2480/66 ( fax:(++ 49 89) 689 18 71 voice:(++ 49 89) 68 33 40 ) "So speak .... I'm right here !" (Dream Theater - Voices) >>> keep your ATARI ST/TT running!!! >>> ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 21 Dec 1994 11:16:46 -0400 (EDT) From: email_address_removed To: email_address_removed Subject: Re: I&W & Awake Message-ID: >In my opinion, the main difference between I&W and Awake, is that I&W is a >collection of songs, while Awake is a real album; theme's from one song return >in another, the whole album is in balance. Awake is not the kind of album >you play with your CD-player on 'shuffle'. I agree somewhat, Awake does flow. But if the songs were meant to be listened to in that order, they wouldn't have messed up the order on the cassette, or omitted Scarred. KAI ------------------------------ Date: 21 Dec 1994 10:45:52 -0600 (CST) From: text string To: email_address_removed Subject: Taping Shows Message-ID: Date sent: 21-DEC-1994 10:35:02 A while back someone told everyone to go tape the shows you go to. I can only firmly back this statement up. PLEASE DO. Sure you can't scream your head off, thrash around, go get a beer, go to the bathroom, or other miscellaneous activities at shows....but you'll have a tape of the show you were at documented in time for all traders to obtain for their archives. I started taping shows (of other bands before DT ever toured) because no one else in my damn area was taping the shows I was at so I decided to get off my ass and change that. I do like to not tape shows on occasion, but I make sure someone else is taping the show beforehand. About all that high speed dubbing....was someone actually doing this in your trades? Yipes. Has anyone ever had a problem with people messing with the speed of the tape? I was trading with a Rush trader who went bezerk when he got a new pitch-control deck and messed with all the dubs to make them come out really slow. ******************************************************************************** * "Your brothers.....they echo your words! * How far to the point of no return?" - Kansas 1977 * * *** Always interested in trading Kansas shows *** * Steve Smits email_address_removed ******************************************************************************** ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 21 Dec 1994 12:05:16 -0500 (EST) From: Stephan Dobay To: email_address_removed Subject: Re: I&W & Awake Message-ID: I agree with what Oscar said...that Awake is a cohesive album, rather than a collection of songs. I mean, I know a lot of people were disappointed when they first heard Lie on its own...but how many people reconsidered when the heard it as it was meant to be, following the Mirror? Hearing it that way, I gained a greater appreciation for it. I think the whole album just flows that way, one song leading perfectly into the next. IMHO, of course. On another subject, anyone want to recommend a good setup for covert recording? Or tell me where to look to get this kind of equipment? Unfortuanetly, I don't get any of the bootleg newsgroups, so I figured I would ask here. Later. --Stephan email_address_removed ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 21 Dec 1994 15:51:42 -0500 From: email_address_removed To: email_address_removed Subject: Lie UK single release Message-ID: Dear jammers, I just got the Lie UK single. It has four tracks on it - Lie (edit), Space Die Vest, To Live Forever (Studio), and Another Day (Live at the Marquee). Hope this helps. Oh, I got it for $9.99. <<<==<==<==<==<==<==<==<==<==<<<>>>==>==>==>==>==>==>==>==>==>>> "For the first time in a long time. . .everything was right in my world. . . . . .and then I woke up." Jeff C. is: HuntNKill "What a journey it has been, huntnkill and the end is not in sight. But the stars are out tonight "I can see much clearer now, and they're bound to guide my way" I'm blind." - L. Salonga "Oh that this too, too solid flesh would melt. . ." <<<==<==<==<==<==<==<==<==<==<<<<\-/-\-/-\-/>>>>==>==>==>==>==>==>==>==>==>>> ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 21 Dec 94 20:56 GMT From: email_address_removed.co.uk (Mark Tiplady) To: email_address_removed Subject: UK Tour Dates Message-ID: Hi, I'm new to this 'net life so forgive me if I screw up! Can anyone please confirm the UK tour dates? Someone previously posted that DT would be playing the Forum on 21st March but when I rang them they didn't know anything about it! ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 21 Dec 1994 18:11:43 -0600 (CST) From: William Wright To: email_address_removed Subject: Re: I&W & Awake Message-ID: > In my opinion, the main difference between I&W and Awake, is that I&W is a > collection of songs, while Awake is a real album; theme's from one song return > in another, the whole album is in balance. Awake is not the kind of album > you play with your CD-player on 'shuffle'. Yes... as is Operation: mindcrime. I think thats one of the things I like about Awake the most. While I think IAW had the best possible order for songs, it still didn't seem to fuse together as Awake did. However I like some of the songs more on IAW. I guess I could put it this way, as a whole Awake is my favorite, however some of the songs on IAW beat all of the songs on Awake. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 22 Dec 1994 00:01:27 -0600 (CST) From: "Brian V. Cox" To: email_address_removed, email_address_removed (Michael Burstin), Subject: DT Tour Date Master List Message-ID: hi there everyone... i have a little free time on my hands, and am wanting to work on a project i have been putting off for a while, and one which needs to be done soon before dream theater tours as many times as rush :) anyway, i am wanting to compile a list of all the shows dream theater has played, including some indication of which shows are known to have been taped. what i need from you guys is this: get out your old ticket stubs from the last tour, and email the dates/ cities/venues/opening acts of the shows you went to. DO NOT send me shows from images tour that are out on bootlegs, i don't want everyone emailing me. just send the ones that you went to or know the date of that aren't widely known. if such a list already exists somewhere for the images tour, please someone send me a copy or point me to it.. also, i need corrections to the existing list. i need to know which shows were cancelled/venues changed/etc. here is the current list, i will be adding all the images shows that i know of from cd boots and tapes, etc tongiht, so send me as much as you can. everyone's help is greatly appreciated... oh yeah, put "tour date" somewhere in the subject field... Dream Theater Tour Dates Awake Tour 1994/1995 Updated 12/21/94 Compiled by Brian V. Cox (email_address_removed) First Leg: (North America) I Mother Earth opening: 10/20/94 Providence,RI The Strand 10/21/94 Boston Berklee Performance Center 10/22/94 New Haven,CT Palace Theater 10/24/94 Buffalo,NY Connecticut Street Armory 10/25/94 Toronto, CA RPM Warehouse 10/27/94 Baltimore Hammerjacks 10/28/94 New York City, NY Manhattan Center 10/29/94 Pittsburgh Metropol 10/31/94 Columbus, OH Newport Music Hall 11/01/94 Grand Rapids, MI Orbit Room 11/04/94 Milwaukee, WI Ray's Eagles Auditorium 11/05/94 Chicago Vic Theater 11/06/94 Detroit State Theater 11/08/94 Minneapolis, MN Mirage Fates Warning Opening: 11/10/94 St. Louis, MO American Theatre 11/11/94 Kansas City Memorial Hall 11/12/94 Oklahoma City, OK Roxy Music Hall 11/14/94 San Antonio, TX Majestic Theatre 11/16/94 Dallas, TX Deep Ellum Live (rescheduled from 11/14) 11/17/94 Austin, TX The Terrace 11/18/94 Houston, TX Tower Theater 11/19/94 Lubbock, TX TBA (Cancelled) 11/20/94 El Paso, TX County Coliseum 11/21/94 Albuquerque, NM Zipperz 11/22/94 Denver, CO Mammoth Events Center 11/23/94 Colorado Springs, CO TBA (Cancelled) 11/25/94 Salt Lake City, UT Salt Air 11/26/94 Boise, ID TBA 11/27/94 Seattle, WA Moore Theatre 11/29/94 Portland, OR Roseland Theatre 12/01/94 San Francisco, CA The Warfield 12/02/94 Sacremento, CA TBA 12/04/94 Tucson, AZ Buena Vista Theater 12/05/94 Phoenix (Tempe), AZ Club Rio 12/06/94 Las Vegas, NV The Huntridge 12/08/94 San Diego, CA TBA 12/09/94 Hollywood, CA The Palace Second Leg: (Europe) 02/02/95 Bielefeld, Germany PC 69 02/03/95 Furth, Germany Stadthalle 02/04/95 Munich, Germany Terminal 1 02/06/95 Ludwigsburg, Germany Forum 02/07/95 Leipzig, Germany Auensee 02/08/95 Hannover, Germany Music Hall 02/10/95 Offenback, Germany Stadthalle 02/11/95 Dusseldorf, Germany Philipshalle 02/13/95 Gent, Belgium Vooruit 02/14/95 Utrecht, Holland Musikcentrum 02/15/95 Utrecht, Holland Musikcentrum 02/17/95 Copenhagen, Denmark Aleexandra 02/18/95 Malmo, Sweden KB 02/19/95 Oslo, Norway Rockefeller 02/20/95 Stockholm, Swedend Cirkus 02/22/95 Helsinki, Finland Tavastia 02/25/95 Rendsburg, Germany Nordmarkhallee 02/26/95 Berlin, Germany Huxleys Neue Welt 02/27/95 Bremen, Germany Aladin 03/01/95 Hamburg, Germany Docks 03/02/95 Hamburg, Germany Docks (option) 03/04/95 Wels, Austria Alter Schlachthof 03/06/95 Rome, Italy Teatro Tenda A Strisse 03/07/95 Milan, Italy Palasesto 03/08/95 Zurich, Switzerland Volkshaus 03/10/95 Vittorio, Spain El Elefante Blanco 03/11/95 Madrid, Spain Sala Canciller II 03/13/95 Paris, France Elysee Montmartre 03/15/95 Glasgow, Scotland Garage 03/16/95 Belfast, Ireland The Limelight 03/17/95 Dublin, Ireland Tivoli 03/19/95 Manchester, England University 03/20/95 Nottingham, England Rock City 03/21/95 London, England The Forum Eastwest Records America: (212)275-2500 **always looking for rush/dream theater/queensryche/king's x bootlegs** ============================================================================= Voices repeating me, Brian V. Cox Voices discussing me, "Feeling threatened? email_address_removed "Others steal your thoughts We reflect your hopes Dream Theater- They're not confined and fears." A Mind Beside Itself: II. Voices Within your mind." ============================================================================= check out my new homepage: http://tam2000.tamu.edu/~bvc8995 ------------------------------ End of YTSEJAM Digest 624 *************************