YTSEJAM Digest 610

Today's Topics:

  1) DT starts and promotional stuff
 by "backof michael ( bs ifsm)" <email_address_removed>
  2) watchtower
 by TIM LODGE SGA/PRE-LAW/MICRO/MAC LABS <email_address_removed>
  3) Re: A little disgusted...
 by Eric Moegling <email_address_removed>
  4) Non-DT : Crimson Glory - Name Change, etc...
 by email_address_removed
  5) Re: No airplay
 by Eijk.Oscar.van@uniface.nl (Oscar van Eijk)
  6) Queensryche
 by email_address_removed
  7) Euro Dates?/MTV/Old or New, does it matter?
 by Mats Rydstr\vm <email_address_removed.se>
  8) Trading
 by email_address_removed (Jeremy Haynes)
  9) Grmbl! Dutch concerts sold out! HELP!!
 by Eijk.Oscar.van@uniface.nl (Oscar van Eijk)
 10) The planned EP....
 by Bill Nottingham <email_address_removed>
 11) Re: YTSEJAM digest 607 
 by "Jeremy Peter Lakatos" <email_address_removed>
 12) Re: YTSEJAM digest 607 (Sucky radio)
 by Douglas Merrell <email_address_removed>
 13) Re: Slade
 by email_address_removed
 14) Trendy???
 by Robert J Weychert Jr <email_address_removed>
 15) My DT Start...
 by "Josh Tournas" <email_address_removed>
 16) Re: No airplay
 by email_address_removed.ac.uk
 17) Re: Trendy???
 by email_address_removed (Ken Bibb)
 18) Message from Mike concerning new album
 by email_address_removed (Zack Gemmill)
 19) Cool gif
 by email_address_removed
 20) Subscribe Me
 by email_address_removed
 21) Magellan-DT connection?
 by email_address_removed
 22) SFO show (mild spoilers)
 by email_address_removed (Zack Gemmill)
 23) Re: Queensryche
 by William Wright <email_address_removed>

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Date: Wed, 7 Dec 1994 01:03:34 -0500
From: "backof michael ( bs ifsm)" <email_address_removed>
To: email_address_removed
Subject: DT starts and promotional stuff
Message-ID: <message_id_removed>

Well since all of you Jammers are posting about your starts with the 
music of Dream Theater, I'll post mine.

I was one of the guys who heard Pull Me Under played over and over on the 
radio in Baltimore.  This prompted me to order the album from Columbia 
House.  I got it and listened to it for the first time.  I wasn't very 
impressed but I heard Pull Me Under and that was cool.  A couple of 
months later there was a concert annoucement for Dream Theater, and it 
was only $15.  I said, "What the Hell, I'll check them out."  So I 
travelled to Pier Six in Baltimore for the show and I was completely 
BLOWN AWAY!!!  I had never experienced such an intense show, they even 
surpassed seeing Rush on the Presto tour.  Portnoy was the one who made 
the greatest impression, with all the sweat flying off of hime, he 
refused to yield and played all two hours with such fury.  I went back 
and listened to the album again, and I loved it.  I picked up Live At The 
Marquee and WDADU at a local record store a couple of months later.  Then 
came lots of live stuff and Awake, but that is another story.

	As far as the Promotional stuff goes, I thought about replying to 
that contest but decided it wasn't worth the effort, I'd never get any 
cool stuff.  Oh well, I blew that one though I just got some cool stuff 
today in the mail from Atlantic records.  I replied to a post about 
questions for a Neil Peart "Burning For Buddy" album interview and asked 
something about his kit and effects, misc. percussion, I forget exactly.
Well they sent me a promotional music sampler with some wierd stuff, I 
recognize five of the bands (Buddy Rich, The Jerky Boys, Page and Plant, 
Melvins (Rush fans love these guys <grin>), Collective Soul) but that was 
cool of them.  It also included Neil Peart series Pro-Mark burning for 
Buddy drumsticks.  So that was pretty cool of them, the morale is anybody 
can get free stuff, you just gotta take some initiative.


					Later,

					Mike

					email_address_removed


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Date: Tue, 6 Dec 1994 22:57:44 -0500 (EST)
From: TIM LODGE SGA/PRE-LAW/MICRO/MAC LABS <email_address_removed>
To: email_address_removed
Subject: watchtower
Message-ID: <message_id_removed>

I'd like to check out Watchtower, but i dont have any of there stuff now.

If someone on the ytsejam wants to trade  or something, i have lots
of rare dt and new live, etc to trade . i'm looking to get copies
(tape) of their 1st album with Jason McMaster and the 2nd album.

This is all they have, right?


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Date: Wed, 7 Dec 1994 00:31:53 -0600 (CST)
From: Eric Moegling <email_address_removed>
To: email_address_removed
Cc: Multiple recipients of list <email_address_removed>
Subject: Re: A little disgusted...
Message-ID: <Pine.3.89.9412070033.A21464-0100000@bigcat>

For anyone who missed out on the Kings X cd thing...I might be able to 
get ONE of the CD's for a certain lucky individual. I'm not quite sure 
yet...one of the local used record stores got one in...and they might 
still have it (I'll check tomorrow). If they still have this CD...they're 
probably gonna want like $9 for it...but I'll try to con them out of it. 
I will select the individual who will get this by doing a Top Ten type 
thing...and the most creative will be able to get this (this IS the only 
fair way of doing it). Once again I'm not sure if the store still has 
it...but they told me about it a couple of weeks ago...and noone around 
here is into Kings X...so don't bother with sending posts right 
now...just be thinking of a good Kings X top ten list. Take care...and 
I'll update this tomorrow. Later!

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Date: Wed, 07 Dec 1994 03:57:14 -0400 (EDT)
From: email_address_removed
To: email_address_removed
Subject: Non-DT : Crimson Glory - Name Change, etc...
Message-ID: <message_id_removed>

Hello.  Sorry for the non-DT content, but someone asked if Crimson Glory
is still around and I just happened to see something regarding them tonight.
In the local Florida music mag "JAM", they report that CG is now going
under the name "The Crush".  They just finished opening for Savatage in 
Florida.  They have an 8-song demo which is receiving interest from several
labels, esp. "Zero Records" in Japan.  Two of the songs, "River", and "Soul
Searching" are in rotation on radio stations in Tampa and Fort Myers.  The
band includes guitarist John Drenning, bassist Jeff Lords, drummer Ravi,
and vocalist Billy Martinez.  Hope this info helps...
   BTW - The Jam issue that had the Dream Theater interview that someone
was nice enough to post a few weeks ago is still available down here.  Let 
me know via e-mail if you'd want a copy picked up for you...
-greg

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Date: Wed, 7 Dec 1994 09:32:12 +0100
From: Eijk.Oscar.van@uniface.nl (Oscar van Eijk)
To: email_address_removed
Subject: Re: No airplay
Message-ID: <94120709321234@uniface.nl>

> > Keep in mind that not every city has a cool radio station that
> > plays good music -- some of us are stuck in remote areas with
> > few signals carrying, or in big-time cities with stupid program-
> > and music directors who think Allman Brothers and Lynyrd
> > Skynyrd are the tops.   Sad, but true.   Yes, I'd -love- to move 
> > to Tampa or Detroit or New York or somewhere with 'real' radio.
> 
> You don't even have to live in the sticks to lack decent radio.  Indianapolis
> (alright, not a thriving metropolis - but big) doesn't have a hard rock/metal
> station anymore either.  Which is too bad, because when I&W hit it big they
> played the shit out of it.

Don't complain about not having a rock station...
In Holland, we have one radio program (called 'Carola'), 1 hour, 4 days a week,
in which you can hear 2 (two!) rock songs; which makes a total of 10 rock songs
a week (every now and then you can even hear Dream Theater on the radio!)

Carola is fired; her show ends at the 1st of january; she plays too heavy
music.....

Thanks to Carola for giving us at least at little bit real and honest music.

Long live CD players...

Oscar

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 Abandon Hope                                                    Oscar van Eijk
   All Ye                      O s c a r              VMS Systems Administrator
Who Enter Here              oscar@uniface.nl     Uniface Advanced Technology BV
                                                  Amsterdam ZO, the Netherlands


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Date: Tue, 06 Dec 94 19:58:46 -0700
From: email_address_removed
To: email_address_removed
Subject: Queensryche
Message-ID: <message_id_removed>


Does anyone around here like Queensryche? I listen to their music constantly
and they are my favorite band of all time. I would like to here from all you
fellow Rychers out there. 

NO ONE CAN HEAR WHEN YOUR SCREAMING IN DIGITAL!!!!!!!!!

 --QUEENSRYCHE



--
Marias Seral : Fantasy, Adventure, Music, Games


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Date: Wed, 7 Dec 1994 09:47:20 +0100 (MET)
From: Mats Rydstr\vm <email_address_removed.se>
To: Ytsejam mailing-list <email_address_removed>
Subject: Euro Dates?/MTV/Old or New, does it matter?
Message-ID: <message_id_removed.se>

Hello fellow Jammers!

#1: Since I've read some postings about German and Dutch DT dates I would 
like to know if there's anyone with a complete (or 'complete') listing of 
the European Tour and esp the Swedish dates. I haven't noticed anything 
here in the local papers announcing a DT gig.

#2: Did anyone watch MTV's Most Wanted (MTV Europe that is) last friday 
or this week? I sent them some email complaining about the lack of 
music and esp DT on eMpTyV, and I also (in a separate mail) requested 
LIE. Ray said that he'd just got his first email-request last thursday so I 
figured I would have a decent chance of getting LIE played, I wasn't able 
to watch any of the last shows due to lotsa school.

#3: Some people here on the list consider themselves better because 'they 
have been fans since WDADU' and have therfore got a better perception of 
what DT's music is supposed to be about. Bullshit, as many people that got 
in touch with DT after IAW was released have also become hardcore-fans 
and started to buy bootlegs etc as well as the guys that bought WDADU 
initially. I can also very well imagine people buying WDADU but not becoming 
fans and not buying the other albums, WDADU isn't the greatest album ever 
IMO. Therefore I don't consider the guy who bought WDADU the first day any 
better than a guy who bought AWAKE yesterday. Ok, you were fortunate to have 
run into the band early on, but it could also have happened two or three 
years later. I never heard about DT until about two years ago, and I'm  
following what's happening in music, how would I even when they got 'no' 
attention on a large scale?
     Which radio stations would you expect to play WDADU-tracks, (we've 
only had commercial radio in Sweden for about one year, before that there 
was only a very limited amount of stations, and even now it's all just 
AC, AOR etc. except for Bandit 105.5, an american radio station which 
moved here last year. They play rock, however not DT.) Maybe some  
special Metal-show did play DT once or twice in 1989-1992, but DT was not 
the only thing happening and to most people not the most important 
either. Don't expect everyone (or anyone) to be like you.
     Did MTV say or do or play anything before the PMU-video came out? No I 
don't think so. Then HBB started to give DT the attention they deserve, 
they give DT what they deserve, maybe to you DT is the only band in 
the world but you know, they aren't really. (although they're one of 
the few good bands :-))
     I didn't catch anything in the mags I read, Ok I don't read Kerrang  
and Raw so therefore I missed what they possibly wrote. I have not seen 
many reviews of either IAW or AWAKE.
     And what about the availability of WDADU. (Mechanic records are 
a sorry bunch!) Even in some places in america WDADU has been hard to find 
(some of you say so at least) and then imagine the situation here in Sweden. 
Now it's available in most stores for about $10-$30, but two years ago? 
Mechanic records even stopped printing it, for what I've heard.

You blame the people who have found out about DT lately and are coming  
to see the shows. Last month I've read your reviews and many said that 
shows were moved to smaller venues due to lack of ticket-sales. As it 
seems to me DT need every fan in the US (and the rest of the world too 
for that matter), new or old doesn't matter. If you don't like the new 
fans moshing/not recognizing older songs or if want to see better, just  
get upfront closest to the stage. Take some time off and get there 
early, if you really are the hardcore fans you pretend to be, that 
shouldn't be a problem. It seems to me that you only want DT for yourselves 
(same thing as with the alternative turning into mainstream) and that people 
who discovered them after WDADU aren't good enough. DT knew what they 
were doing when they wrote LIE or any of the, to the larger crowd, more 
appealing songs. They wanted to attract new fans and if THEY want those 
fans, it's none of your business. I could go on raving all night but you  
have probably got the point.

#4: Since I am a baby fan (only been a DT-head for two years) I would 
like to get my hands on the stuff that would make me a real fan, I will 
then be allowed to have smartass opinions, kick peoples butts at concerts 
if they're too loud, prove myself to the band afterwards in some stupid 
way by telling them all how much I like the Wanted Dead or Alive demo, (I 
probably don't but I'll have to act cool). Yeah, that would rule! (irony)

I'm interested in:
- Majesty and other demos
- Ytsejam shirt

and also the upcoming? WDA(J)(LB)U

If anyone (preferrably in Sweden or Europe, P&P overseas is quite expensive) 
would like to share demos/boots with me please mail me privately. And is it 
possible to get a Ytsejam-shirt, is there anyone with one too many. Will 
there be any more made?

Long posts come to an end too!

Take care, and please don't be cruel to new fans. It's not their fault!

    ________________________________________________________________________
   / Mats Rydstrom - email_address_removed.se - http://www.nada.kth.se/~d94-mry /
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Date: Wed, 7 Dec 1994 06:54:20 -0500
From: email_address_removed (Jeremy Haynes)
To: email_address_removed
Subject: Trading
Message-ID: <message_id_removed>

>I've traded with about half
>of this list, and we all do it the same:  Setlists are always included, 
always >on high bias type II tapes, and uh.. we usually think its pretty 
cool to send the case along with the tape.<

And some of us (myself included) even take the time to make nice "CaseLiner" 
for _every_ tape sent out...


Jer <email_address_removed>



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Date: Wed, 7 Dec 1994 13:32:15 +0100
From: Eijk.Oscar.van@uniface.nl (Oscar van Eijk)
To: email_address_removed
Subject: Grmbl! Dutch concerts sold out! HELP!!
Message-ID: <94120713321530@uniface.nl>

This is a resend; I believe my mailer eat the previous message.
If it arrived twice now; X.Q-s me

Hi There,

Ev'ry body HELP please, I'm in big trouble :-{
I heard about DT concerts in Holland on February 14 an 15, in Vredenburg,
Utrecht, after it was sold out !! F$&*#@!

Does anybody know if and when they will play in Belgium or anywhere nearby,
or can anybody help me to get tix  for the Vredenburg concerts ? (I saw them
there the first time they were in Holland - at least I think it was the first
time - and that's a perfect place to see them play)

Btw, will Hydrophobia be their support act in Holland ?

aTdHvAaNnKcSe

Oscar

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 Abandon Hope                                                    Oscar van Eijk
   All Ye                      O s c a r              VMS Systems Administrator
Who Enter Here              oscar@uniface.nl     Uniface Advanced Technology BV
                                                  Amsterdam ZO, the Netherlands



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Date: Wed, 7 Dec 1994 10:05:50 -0500
From: Bill Nottingham <email_address_removed>
To: email_address_removed
Subject: The planned EP....
Message-ID: <message_id_removed>

For those of you that got to see them after the shows:

When they said they were going to go back to the studio
and record an EP with ACOS, TLF, etc, etc, - were they
going to do it with Derek on keys, or was that not
decided yet?

Bill



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Date: Wed, 07 Dec 94 10:37:10 -0500
From: "Jeremy Peter Lakatos" <email_address_removed>
To: email_address_removed
Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 607 
Message-ID: <message_id_removed>

+- On Monday (12/5/94 18:21) ytsejam@arastar.com wrote-
| tops.   Sad, but true.   Yes, I'd -love- to move to Tampa or Detroit
| or New York or somewhere with 'real' radio.    

Tampa? No way. I've lived in Tampa, and if you don't like DancePop on one
station, MTV grunge/cheap thrash on another, or country, you don't
have anything. Tampa radio really sucks...there was a day when you
could get jazz, mostly commercial, but even that is gone.

No progressive rock there.

--
jeremy (email_address_removed)
Only waiting to die.

--
jeremy (email_address_removed)
Only waiting to die.


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Date: Wed, 7 Dec 1994 10:59:00 -0500 (EST)
From: Douglas Merrell <email_address_removed>
To: email_address_removed
Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 607 (Sucky radio)
Message-ID: <message_id_removed>

> 
> A deluded Paul Cashman writes:
> 
>   <<Sad, but true.   Yes, I'd -love- to move to Tampa or Detroit
> or New York or somewhere with 'real' radio. >>
> 
> Well, I can't speak for Tampa or Detroit, but New York radio sucks. Q104,
> which played the hell out of 'Lie", also seems to play the hell out of bad
> songs as well. They have no variety! It's almost like they are Top 40 metal. 
> 
> Andy
>   
> 
> 
> 

Well, I guess I should speak for Tampa (Bay), Florida because I feel really sorry
about you people's sad predicament.  I believe the radio that the original poster is
referring to is 98ROCK, who plays all the real, heavy rock and metal.  They are
sometimes obnoxious, with sayings like: "If it's too loud, you're too old!" and my
favorite: "Bite Me!".  I haven't been able to listen to them for quite a few months
because I'm here in sunny Tallahassee Florida trying to finish my CS degree.

It's a real shame that Tampa doesn't have a true classic rock station anymore. (Boo
hoo :'-) )  If 95ynf was still around, I don't think I would be here that much. 
That was the coolest station in the whole area, for almost 14 years.  Well, at least
we still have 98ROCK.

I can't seem to decide which I like better, 98ROCK or ZRock 106.1, here in
Tallahassee.  I just seem to be a real lucky music fan.  There is usually always a
music station within broadcast distance to listen to.  And, if you're on the road,
there is always DT and Rush. :)

Just thought I'd clue you in as to the radio discussion,
C-Ya,

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Date: Wed, 7 Dec 1994 11:44:35 -0500
From: email_address_removed
To: email_address_removed
Subject: Re: Slade
Message-ID: <message_id_removed>

Well if you can heal up from the surgery by tomorrow give me a call. :-)

Tom

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Date: Wed, 7 Dec 1994 11:58:38 -0500 (EST)
From: Robert J Weychert Jr <email_address_removed>
To: email_address_removed
Subject: Trendy???
Message-ID: <Pine.3.89.9412071153.A14167-0100000@atlantic>

    Okay, I've been a subscriber to this list for only a few weeks (those 
of you who are on AOL may know me as BREDSTIK) and have been a lurker 
until now, but I've seen some posts lately that I absolutely MUST comment on.
    First of all, someone actually called certain DT fans TRENDY????  How 
the hell could DT possibly be considered a trend of any kind???  I know 
very few people that have even HEARD of them, let alone heard their 
music.  Where were they in 89 when Dream and Day came out? you ask.  
Well, I, for one, was in seventh or eight grade (I don't know what time 
of year it came out) quite content with my Metallica, Anthrax, and 
Megadeth and other such "starter" bands (not to discredit them in any 
way, mind you).  The first time I heard of Dream Theater was on a weekly 
hard rock/metal radio show when they played--you guessed it--Pull Me 
Under.  I bought I&W on Dec 27, 1992 and have been quite a loyal fan ever 
since.  Since then, I have acquired:

          --When Dream and Day Unite
          --Live at the Marquee
          --Images and Words: Live in Tokyo
          --Dance of Eternity (single disc import of a show in Buffalo)
          --InstruMENTAL
          --The Majesty Demo
          --Awake
          --The Lie promo single

And I expect to acquire Dance of Eternity (the double disc set) and/or 
Lost in the Sky over Christmas break.
    This is not to say that people who only have I&W and/or Awake are not 
true fans either.  If they have these albums, it is because they like the 
music; there is no bandwagon to jump on, no majority to go along with.  
Not everyone is lucky enough to have connections with the Net and good 
import shops nearby like many of us are; the fact that most of the DT 
stuff that's available is import only can be problem for people without 
connections.
    I love Dream Theater.  There music pleases me greatly.  So I ask you: 
If I didn't hear of them back in '88 or '89, am I not a "true fan"?  Is 
Michael Burstin not a "true fan"?  Think about it.  Dream Theater is not 
and never will be a trend.  If you want them all to yourself because you've 
known of them longer, that's pretty damn selfish.
    As for new fans, don't put them down because they're new, encourage 
them!  Enlighten them with your resources, encourage them to check out 
everything that's out there!  :)


--Rob

P.S.--I've only had this Internet address for a couple of months, and I 
don't know how to do one of those neato 'sig' thingies so many of you 
have, so I'd GREATLY appreciate it if someone could E-mail and enlighten 
me!  Thanks in advance!  :)


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Date: Wed, 07 Dec 94 12:20:04 -0500
From: "Josh Tournas" <email_address_removed>
To: email_address_removed
Subject: My DT Start...
Message-ID: <message_id_removed>

I was wondering if anyone else got into Dream Theater like I did.  I think it
was April of '92 when a good DJ friend of mine got a promo copy of I&W in the
mail from Atco/EastWest.  Needless to say, we were hooked from the start, and
played the shit out of it all summer.  No one had ever heard of the band, save
one friend who nearly fainted when I told him I found WDADU on disc, which took
a lot of looking, let me tell you.  We couldn't even find I&W in Connecticut
until the fall!

I don't think it's fair to call people bandwagon-jumpers, since DT is just 
coming into its own in terms of airplay and other exposure.  I didn't know DT
existed before I&W showed up on my friend's doorstep, and it got virtually no
airplay, except for some Pull Me Under, and ONCE I heard Another Day on I95 out
of Danbury, CT.  I think we should all be thankful that DT is hitting it big,
which can only mean that we'll have much more material to look forward to in
years to come.

Just thought I'd throw my two cents in...

Josh (email_address_removed)


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Date: Wed, 7 Dec 94 16:09:13 GMT
From: email_address_removed.ac.uk
To: email_address_removed
Subject: Re: No airplay
Message-ID: <message_id_removed.ac.uk>


>>You don't even have to live in the sticks to lack decent radio.  Indianapolis
>>(alright, not a thriving metropolis - but big) doesn't have a hard rock/metal
>>station anymore either.  Which is too bad, because when I&W hit it big they
>>played the shit out of it.

hard rock/metal station? What's one of those. Hell, you should try living in
the UK for a bit. This is the country that seems to think Bon Jovi is the best
metal artist in the world (I kid you not). So why is it that so many people
here seem surprised to find out Keep the Faith wasn't his debut? Jeez...

Byee,

Matt.

"For the first time in a long time... it's about music"


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Date: Wed, 7 Dec 1994 19:47:11 +0800
From: email_address_removed (Ken Bibb)
To: email_address_removed
Subject: Re: Trendy???
Message-ID: <message_id_removed>


> From: Robert J Weychert Jr <email_address_removed>

> P.S.--I've only had this Internet address for a couple of months, and I 
> don't know how to do one of those neato 'sig' thingies so many of you 
> have, so I'd GREATLY appreciate it if someone could E-mail and enlighten 
> me!  Thanks in advance!  :)

It depends on your mailer (the mail interface that you're using) and
the operating system.  In unix, if you have a file called ~/.signature
it will often be automatically included.  If you're using Unix, tell me
the mail interface that you're using (pine, mail, mush, or whatever) and
I'll tell you how to include your ~/.signature (I know how to with most
MUA's).

--
Ken Bibb		"Upon a wave of summer
email_address_removed	 A hilltop paved with gold
email_address_removed	 We shut our eyes and make the promises we hold"
				David Sylvian--"Wave"

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Date: Wed, 7 Dec 94 14:18:02 PST
From: email_address_removed (Zack Gemmill)
To: email_address_removed
Subject: Message from Mike concerning new album
Message-ID: <message_id_removed>

Damn! my email's been down for a whole week 
(expect my review of the SFO show and a cool 
story later tonight...), I'm finally back.

Anyway, I asked Mike what the style of the 
new album was going to be and he told me to
tell you guys it will be "Industrial Bluegrass".

Actually, he reminded me to tell that to the
list three times that night, so I'm telling
you...

And, both he and Derek again expressed their 
appreciation for getting the stack of ytsejams
to read on the bus.

later,

Zach


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Date: Wed, 7 Dec 1994 17:55:18 -0500
From: email_address_removed
To: email_address_removed
Subject: Cool gif
Message-ID: <message_id_removed>

Dear fellow Ytsejammers,

Here's a gif that I drew in my spare time.  If any of you guys have
uuencode/uudecode, then uncode the stuff below.

Jeff Chew (email_address_removed)

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Date: Wed, 07 Dec 1994 16:41:46 -0700 (MST)
From: email_address_removed
To: email_address_removed
Subject: Subscribe Me
Message-ID: <message_id_removed>

Hey,
Dream Theater rules, sign me up to the Ytsejam...PLEASE!!!!!!!


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Date: Wed, 7 Dec 1994 18:46:34 -0500
From: email_address_removed
To: email_address_removed
Subject: Magellan-DT connection?
Message-ID: <message_id_removed>

" I think DT used to open for Magellan and I
swear I hear pieces or Pull Me Under in their song Magna Charta*
(I am no musician so I may be way off)."

Now that is news to me! I don't recall Magellan and DT ever touring together,
in fact I don't recall Magellan ever touring?I will have to ask a Mr. W.
Gardner on this to clarify it as fact or fiction! :{)}
Perhaps you might be refering to the great prog band MARILLION? I know of a
tour they did with DT during Marillion's "Holidays in Eden" US tour.

*FYI, the song is Magna Carta and your not to far off with the comparison
(although I think that Magellan is more keyboard driven then DT, i.e. Yes,
ELP). I highly recommend Magellan, these guys are working on their third
album entitled "Test of Wills" due out in 1995. I also recommend that you
purchase "Hour of Restoration" and "Impending Ascension", these guys are
incredible and will highly appeal to many DT fans! The albums are available
on the Magna Carta label, for more info write to:
Magna Carta
208 East 51st Street #1820
New York, NY 10022
Tell them Tony K sent you! ;{)}




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Date: Wed, 7 Dec 94 17:11:17 PST
From: email_address_removed (Zack Gemmill)
To: email_address_removed
Subject: SFO show (mild spoilers)
Message-ID: <message_id_removed>


Ten times better than the last tour.  James' voice
didn't break, they weren't out of time, and Derrick 
was great!  Got right in front, but the moshing was 
pissing me off, so I left and wandered aroung the rest
of the theater until the last few songs when I went
back to the front.  

The two solos were unbelievable!  I thought the way
they played PMU and Metropolis recorded as the boys
ran onstage and then they started playing directly 
after the intros--- no mistakes--- was great!  Other
than the show being in a crappy part of town (Jim and
Ray made some derisive comments about being glad they
were leaving (privately, after the show), it was a 
great night.  Too bad we couldn't make it over the 
pass (snow) to the Fri show in Reno.  The place they
were playing was a small club (Mike and Mark were 
joking about not having enough room for both of their
sets).  If I had know beforehand they were playing Reno,
I could've hooked up with a 4WD, but alas...

I'll post my story of getting on the Fates bus a 
little later...

Zach





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Date: Wed, 7 Dec 1994 20:08:08 -0600 (CST)
From: William Wright <email_address_removed>
To: email_address_removed
Subject: Re: Queensryche
Message-ID: <message_id_removed>

> Does anyone around here like Queensryche? I listen to their music constantly
> and they are my favorite band of all time. I would like to here from all you
> fellow Rychers out there. 
> 
> NO ONE CAN HEAR WHEN YOUR SCREAMING IN DIGITAL!!!!!!!!!

Queensryche? Who are they? Is there anybody listening to me? hmm... guess 
not.


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