YTSEJAM Digest 494 Topics covered in this issue include: 1) Re: Release dates? by "James Studnicki (HON)" 2) CD "densities" (?) by "James Studnicki (HON)" 3) (not DT) CD density discrepancy... by "David Barro 'Buzzy Bellew'" 4) My dog has fleas by email_address_removed (Mike Masi) 5) Re: CD "densities" (?) by William T Bajzek 6) Re: Re: by email_address_removed 7) re:YTSEJAM digest 491 by "james (j.) wolf" 8) savatage ; Handful of Rain by Nate Bradley 9) Re: Release dates? by email_address_removed (Dr. Mosh) 10) Re: Japanese version of Awake? by email_address_removed 11) Re: YTSEJAM digest 489 by "Jason K. Schechner" 12) Re: Japanese version of Awake? by email_address_removed (Alex Reinelt) 13) Two more tracks... by email_address_removed (Jason Skewes) 14) Subscribe me - again by Carmen J Pezzone 15) Re: lie...MP2 by email_address_removed.de (Tilman Kuendgen) 16) Re[2]: Zebra by email_address_removed ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Topic No. 1 Date: Mon, 22 Aug 1994 08:38:20 -0400 (EDT) From: "James Studnicki (HON)" To: email_address_removed Subject: Re: Release dates? Message-ID: On Mon, 22 Aug 1994, Stacie Rosenzweig wrote: > 2) Sorry for the non-DT content, but has anyone else besides me picked up > the new Savatage? Is that not supposed to be out yet? I'll see what I can find out. They're cutting it / have cut it at Morrisound Studios, about five minutes from my house. I know (as probably everyone else does) that Al Skolnick has been chosen to replace Criss Oliva. A side note -- James Murphy, also formerly from this area, of Death / Cancer / Obituary / Disincarnate fame, has moved to San Francisco to fill Skolnick's vacancy. Weird choice. I guess Testament thinks that they can sell big with that kind of influence. Anyway, when he moved, he sold all of his equipment -- I picked up two ATA roadcases for my 4x12 cabs for $350! They've still got "DISINCARNATE" screened on them -- kinda cute. Jim Studnicki email_address_removed University of South Florida Tampa, Florida, USA ------------------------------ Topic No. 2 Date: Mon, 22 Aug 1994 08:45:15 -0400 (EDT) From: "James Studnicki (HON)" To: email_address_removed Subject: CD "densities" (?) Message-ID: > >> About the CD having more than 75 mins... the suppose extra track is not > >> possible... higher track density means you can't play it on every CD > >> player... I've got a few CDs above 75 min., and never had any problems -- the new (old) Tribal Tech record is 76:35 or something like that. I believe that the upper limit is 83 minutes of 16-bit audio sampled at 44.1 KHz. Jim Studnicki email_address_removed University of South Florida Tampa, Florida, USA ------------------------------ Topic No. 3 Date: Mon, 22 Aug 94 09:54 EDT From: "David Barro 'Buzzy Bellew'" To: email_address_removed Subject: (not DT) CD density discrepancy... Message-ID: I've been reading a lot of references to the CD density problem here on the list and just wanted to add that my CD player seems to have this problem... Actually, it seems to have not been built up to "Orange Book" standards or something... Since I've had the player, I've encount- ered the problem about 10 times or so, mostly with classical CD's. I thought that the thing was broken or something! Then I noticed that all of the CDs that it would happen with had a length of around 70 minutes or so... One of the discs in my Marillion, "Thieving Magpie" set does that too... :( Thing is that I know that some of these aren't even as much as 75 minutes. So, probably there is something wrong with it besides in that it wasn't built right... I'm glad my lil' brother has gotten a new one (we used to share this CD player) since; he'd be VERY upset if he couldn't play his new Dream Theater CD when he gets it!! ********************************************************************** ** David A. Barro | It isn't how you lie, ** ** email_address_removed ||| It's in the way you're mine ** ** email_address_removed ||| How was I to know ** ** ------------ | The nerves would overflow...... ** **----------------------------------------------IQ, "The Wake"------** ** "Report all bugs to me and I will personally step on them." ** ********************************************************************** ------------------------------ Topic No. 4 Date: Mon, 22 Aug 1994 05:00:20 GMT From: email_address_removed (Mike Masi) To: email_address_removed Subject: My dog has fleas Message-ID: Oh boy, another test message! Mike ------------------------------ Topic No. 5 Date: Mon, 22 Aug 1994 11:41:38 -0400 (EDT) From: William T Bajzek To: email_address_removed Subject: Re: CD "densities" (?) Message-ID: i have nine inch nails bootleg cd that is over 79 minutes long... if they're putting on a bonus track, its not necessarily going to be over 10 minutes long if YOU want to know ----- Bill Bajzek ------- and if YOU want to know just what i see ------- email_address_removed ------------ where were going look at yourself --- http://www.contrib.andrew --- keep your distance and dont ask me ----- .cmu.edu/usr/wb2a/home ----- and dont follow me ------------------------------ Topic No. 6 Date: Mon, 22 Aug 1994 12:36:35 -0500 (EST) From: email_address_removed To: email_address_removed Subject: Re: Re: Message-ID: >> >> Eve was done for MOST? of the I&W tour? This strikes me weird since it only >> appears on one or two legs of the tour, according to the bootleg list (cass- >> ette) which divides the recordings by set lists. How many boots that we >> know of have Eve on it? Only 2 or 3, right? Also, is there 2 versions >> of Eve out there, 1 with vocals and one without? This is probably in the FAQ >> so I'll go there next. I just can't remember. >> > >Yeah... Eve had been done for quite a while... At least once in >every city... the 2nd half of the tour... As far as I can tell, they >started using Eve when they strted their 2nd US tour, and continued it >until they finished the tour, somewhere in Europe or Asia... I don;t >know where they ended... As far as boots w/ Eve, check out DoL, LoS, >LitS, any others from the same locations (I think someone mentioned >that there is another copy of DoL and LoS floating around (not >unusual, since they are both FM broadcast shows)). Besides that, >there is of course, DoE, but I would consider that to be different... Now I'm confused. I've had DoL (as long as we're both referring to Dream Out Loud) and.. uh.. Eve ain't on it. Not as far as I know anyway. If it was to be on it, it would be an encore before LtL, right? Well, mine pops right into LtL, and there's not even enough room on the CD for that whole song, let alone Eve. I don't know, someone clear this up. Also, why would you consider DoE to be different? KAI email_address_removed ------------------------------ Topic No. 7 Date: Mon, 22 Aug 1994 08:53:00 -0500 From: "james (j.) wolf" To: email_address_removed Subject: re:YTSEJAM digest 491 Message-ID: <"27817 Mon Aug 22 12:23:25 1994"@bnr.ca> In message "YTSEJAM digest 491", Ken Higginson writes: > > > Date: Fri, 19 Aug 94 08:21:32 MDT > From: email_address_removed (Ken Higginson) > To: email_address_removed > Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 490 > Message-ID: > > Don't they kinda have to keep "Wait for Sleep?" "Learning to Live" isn;t > the same without it... > I'd guarantee that they'll keep "Wait for Sleep" because James loves that song. It's probably the only song where he can hear himself well throughout the whole song since the live arrangement is still pretty quiet. ------------------- Wolf Man ------------------------------ Topic No. 8 Date: Mon, 22 Aug 1994 14:46:41 -0500 (CDT) From: Nate Bradley To: email_address_removed Subject: savatage ; Handful of Rain Message-ID: > On Mon, 22 Aug 1994, Stacie Rosenzweig wrote: > > > 2) Sorry for the non-DT content, but has anyone else besides me picked up > > the new Savatage? Is that not supposed to be out yet? > > I'll see what I can find out. They're cutting it / have cut it at > Morrisound Studios, about five minutes from my house. I know (as > probably everyone else does) that Al Skolnick has been chosen to replace > Criss Oliva. A side note -- James Murphy, also formerly from this area, > of Death / Cancer / Obituary / Disincarnate fame, has moved to San > Francisco to fill Skolnick's vacancy. Weird choice. I guess Testament > thinks that they can sell big with that kind of influence. Anyway, when > he moved, he sold all of his equipment -- I picked up two ATA roadcases > for my 4x12 cabs for $350! They've still got "DISINCARNATE" screened on > them -- kinda cute. > > Jim Studnicki > email_address_removed > University of South Florida > Tampa, Florida, USA > I just picked Savatage's Handful of Rain this weekend so it is out. I got it at best buy, but had to dig around down below to find it. I have only listened to it 3 times, but so for I am very impressed. I believe this CD will keep me satisfied until Oct 4th. :) Enjoy, -- :::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::: Nathan I Bradley, 1320 Stadium Dr. G106, Duluth, MN 55812-2405,726-7720 Any questions, just ask Naut. -MP email_address_removed ============================================================================ ------------------------------ Topic No. 9 Date: Mon, 22 Aug 1994 14:49:08 PDT From: email_address_removed (Dr. Mosh) To: email_address_removed Subject: Re: Release dates? Message-ID: I got the new Savatage... and I must say... Alex Skolnick is a good guitarists but he'll never have the balls that Criss Oliva had... it shows on the album... -The Doc -- #$%*#$*@ Real: email_address_removed + Virtual: email_address_removed *@#$*@#$ *#$*@#$* The Dream Theater Archives: ftp.netcom.com: /pub/drkhoe/dt &*@#$*@$ **%^$#$% WWW: "ftp://ftp.netcom.com/pub/drkhoe/www/dthome.html" #$**@#*$ *$*$*$*# Reality Enhancement Software - Engineering Reality *$&#*#@$ ------------------------------ Topic No. 10 Date: Mon, 22 Aug 1994 17:53:06 -0500 (EST) From: email_address_removed To: email_address_removed Subject: Re: Japanese version of Awake? Message-ID: >Does anyone know when the Jap version of Awake is coming out? >Is it any sooner than the US release date of October 4th? Is it really >gonna have a bonus track? Any idea what it may be? > >If its coming out earlier and gonna have a cool bonus track, I may order >it from CD Europe or something... > >Let me know what you know! Man, this struck as a huge surprise, but cdeurope sent me their catalog cuz I ordered a tape about a month ago (yes, they do average about 6weeks, but thats the only drawback with them that I can tell so far - some albums are worth the wait for me) and I turned immediately to DT to see if they had LitS or DoE which I've been holding out on for better prices. Anyway, in the DT list is Awake with a bonus live CD - its all $45, and I have no idea about where or when the live is from. So since the album's not out yet (right?), I call them. They know nothing except that if its made available to them, its 99% available to them - understand? O.K., so another drawback is that they have no info on the products that they are selling, and the only way for them to get the info, is for you to order it, then you're obligated. So the moral is, someone on the list has to order this thing and take the chance then inform everyone else of the deal - good or ripoff. So being the ever so curious (and sometimes stupid) that I am, I ordered it - I figure the worst that can happen is I pay 30 extra bucks for LATM or something that I already have, in which case I can still dish off the extra one, for what its worth. So wait with me for 6 or so weeks and I'll let you know what becomes of this escapade. Also, they did have LitS and DoE both for $42.95 each, which is the lowest I've seen, so I went with them too. Ranjit (email_address_removed) also has these for $47.95 each, so the dude who was offerring them for $55 was obviously out to make a tidy profit, or else was getting ripped himself. Don't pay more than $45 for each of these. KAI email_address_removed The reason I wrote this was because I was thinking that this was the Japan release w/ the bonus track - which may really be this bonus CD. I dunno. ------------------------------ Topic No. 11 Date: Mon, 22 Aug 1994 18:15:11 -0400 From: "Jason K. Schechner" To: email_address_removed Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 489 Message-ID: On Aug 19, 9:09, Ken Higginson wrote: > Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 489 > Kevin is moving to Boulder, Colorado? Heh, maybe he'll move next door!! > > > > -- End of excerpt from email_address_removed (Ken Higginson) If so, then PARTY AT KEN'S HOUSE!!! :-) -Jason ------------------------------ Topic No. 12 Date: Tue, 23 Aug 94 11:25:28 MET From: email_address_removed (Alex Reinelt) To: email_address_removed Subject: Re: Japanese version of Awake? Message-ID: > which I've been holding out on for better prices. Anyway, in the DT list is > Awake with a bonus live CD - its all $45, and I have no idea about where or > when the live is from. So since the album's not out yet (right?), I call them. > They know nothing except that if its made available to them, its 99% available Well, if I understood you right, CDeurope claims to be already now able to sell the japanese version of awake! If so, then our japanese list-member (we have at least one if i remember right, so desu-ka?) should be able to tell us about. And by the way: is this CDeurope thing to be found in europe? I must admit that I would also be interested in having Awake within the next weeks...or days.... (dont think bonus CD is LatM, cause LatM was released in japan as a special japan release as well as we all know so I dont think they'll do that to the japanese fans...) bye, Freak ( Alexander Reinelt from Munich/Germany ) email_address_removed Alex_Reinelt@2:2480/66 ( fax: 49-89-689 18 71 mobile phone & tape: 49-171-622 03 40 ) "Love is not just a passing away...it`s a stay upon" (Dream Theater) ------------------------------ Topic No. 13 Date: Tue, 23 Aug 1994 06:20:26 -0700 From: email_address_removed (Jason Skewes) To: email_address_removed Subject: Two more tracks... Message-ID: The WWW site has a new post out there saying that two more tracks from the AWAKE album will be awailable out there on August 31st! No mention of which tracks. 8 days and counting....... ------------------------------ Topic No. 14 Date: Tue, 23 Aug 1994 10:35:07 -0400 (EDT) From: Carmen J Pezzone To: email_address_removed Subject: Subscribe me - again Message-ID: Hi, I would like to be subscribed to the YTSEJAM mailing digest. I subscribed once before and recieved one issue, I think. I subscribed to about 7 at one time, so I may be mistaken. Anyway, please add me to the list. Carmen J Pezzone Jr. email_address_removed Thanks, very much. - Mr. Carmen J. Pezzone Jr. (Aero/Astro Eng) email_address_removed Take the Time^Roll the Bones^Up the Irons^Balls to Picasso^Rust in Piece Mouth for War^Kill 'em All^A Jar of Flies^Songs for Instects^Speak the Word ------------------------------ Topic No. 15 Date: Tue, 23 Aug 1994 16:43:03 +0200 (CDT) From: email_address_removed.de (Tilman Kuendgen) To: email_address_removed Subject: Re: lie...MP2 Message-ID: > > > > Howdy all, > > I downloaded the 8 meg .wav version of Lie. The song kicks ass but > the quality is far from what I desired. I then downloaded the lie#.mp2. > This didn't work with my waveplayer or anything. What do I need to run > this file??? I need the 44khz at 16 bit!!!!! > There is a Player called XING SOUND (for Win 3.1) available via anon ftp at: ftp.iuma.com /audio_utils/mpeg_players/Windows/mpgaudio.zip Perhaps you need to download MSND_E.DLL too, if it doesn`t work. Tilman (email_address_removed.de) ------------------------------ Topic No. 16 Date: Tue, 23 Aug 1994 08:16:49 +0800 From: email_address_removed To: email_address_removed Subject: Re[2]: Zebra Message-ID: Hey, whoever said that Zebra was like Kingdom Come is mistaken. Zebra was way before Kingdom Scum and are alot better musicians... Doug Drury ______________________________ Reply Separator _________________________________ Subject: Re: Zebra Author: ytsejam@arastar.com at P_Internet_Mail Date: 8/8/94 6:14 PM Forward from email_address_removed follows. ------------------------------ End of YTSEJAM Digest 494 *************************