YTSEJAM Digest 485 Topics covered in this issue include: 1) Re: cool DT bio by email_address_removed (Ken Bibb) 2) Re[2]: Dream Theater gets new keyboardist by email_address_removed 3) Jens Johansson by Timo Haanp{{ UPR 4) Re: Thoughts on this weeks happenings - it has been an interesting week by Michael Bahr 5) Jens Concerns by "james (j.) wolf" 6) Tape Trading by email_address_removed 7) News about DT and Jens by email_address_removed (Dr. Mosh) 8) Re: YTSEJAM digest 484 by Jens Johansson 9) foundation forum thing... by email_address_removed (Ken Bibb) 10) ***Majesty Demo CD Order Info*** by email_address_removed (Ken Bibb) 11) **MAJESTY-DT DEMO CD'S ARRIVED !!!!** by email_address_removed (Ken Bibb) 12) lie by email_address_removed (Ken Bibb) 13) T-shirt update by email_address_removed (Ken Bibb) 14) Re: Jens Johansson by Tymoteusz Altman 15) Re: Thoughts on this weeks happenings, etc. by email_address_removed 16) DT management info by email_address_removed 17) by Tymoteusz Altman ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Topic No. 1 Date: Fri, 12 Aug 1994 08:12:08 +0800 From: email_address_removed (Ken Bibb) To: ytsejam Subject: Re: cool DT bio Message-ID: Forward from email_address_removed follows. Wow, really a cool biography! And for the first time something makes me really hungry for the new album! (I didnt share all this enthusiasm here on the list, its just that i wanted to stay without expectations so that i could be re-surprised and that i still get a lot from I&W, though i have been listening VERY close and often to it since 1992!) bye, Freak ( Alexander Reinelt from Munich/Germany ) email_address_removed Alex_Reinelt@2:2480/66 ( fax: 49-89-689 18 71 mobile phone & tape: 49-171-622 03 40 ) "...signal transmitted, message received..." ------------------------------ Topic No. 2 Date: Fri, 12 Aug 94 10:11:45 PST From: email_address_removed To: email_address_removed Subject: Re[2]: Dream Theater gets new keyboardist Message-ID: If this Jens guy as Gman put it so quaintly is Jens Johannsen formerly of Yngwie and Dio, I heartily congratulate him and cannot wait to hear what the guys come up with. This is too good to be true. Kevin was great, but Jens would add so much more mystery to their sound! I can't wait, and also hope Kevin's next project goes as far as DT did and will. Doug D. ______________________________ Reply Separator _________________________________ Subject: Re: Dream Theater gets new keyboardist Author: ytsejam@arastar.com at P_Internet_Mail Date: 8/10/94 2:44 PM Ok, from what someone said, this Jens guy is supposedly on this list?? If so, can he confirm this? I'd like some confirmation if possible. I find this too hard to believe. Gman *-------------------------------------------------------------------------* | Garrett M. Sanborne email_address_removed | | email_address_removed | | "Do what you love, the rest comes." "Huh huh .. drums are cool." | *-------------------------------------------------------------------------* ------------------------------ Topic No. 3 Date: Fri, 12 Aug 1994 20:17:57 +0300 (EET DST) From: Timo Haanp{{ UPR To: email_address_removed Subject: Jens Johansson Message-ID: There seems to be a lot of conversation about Jens Johansson being on Usenet and this list. Yeah, sure, I know there have been posts sent with that name on the header. Of course, it may very well be him fooling around the net, but... not too long ago we had a post from Mr. Mike Portnoy on the list.... I'd also strongly suggest that you all read the chapter "Celebrities Arriving on the Net" on "Zen and the Art of Internet." ;) -- Timo Haanpaa + "I'll always remember the chill of November; the noose Finland + of the fall; the sounds in the hall; the clock on the email_address_removed.fi + wall ticking away." (Dream Theater: A Change of Seasons) ------------------------------ Topic No. 4 Date: Fri, 12 Aug 1994 11:13:39 -0700 (MST) From: Michael Bahr To: email_address_removed Subject: Re: Thoughts on this weeks happenings - it has been an interesting week Message-ID: > wrote the tunes with them. The FAQ says he WAS a member of DT from 1986 > until OCT 8, 1994. Is this correct? Is that the day he gave, or should it > be Aug. 8 ? I wish both could be in the band. Oppps! You're right, August 8th is the correct date. I biffed. > The other thing about this that bothers me is that it took an incident > such as this to find out that Jens is an internet user, let alone the fact > that he might be on Ytsejam. Is he? This pisses me off. The purpose of this > is to exchange information, and it was never brought to my attention that > this was true. I never noticed either, though I was brought into progressive guitar groups late... around the time of Vai's Passion and Warfare, and Satriani's Flying in a Blue Dream. When I saw Jens posting to the list, and noticed he was in my own FAQ, I began to wonder! :) > who's C-man. With a .sig stating Tori Amos info, it sounds like it could be > Kev himself. na. DT management... > I do agree that we are entitled to know exactly who this information is coming > from. So lets have it, I'm getting tired of people sitting on information. DT front office... > And how do you get it? The Ytsejam list was brought to their attention by a friend of a friend of this guy who knows another and his cousin... and so on. Most recently, Mike Portnoy was seen at a concert in Cal and one of our members mentioned the new stuff to him, and he asked how we knew it all. Just recently, the people in DT who HAD been giving us information THROUGH other sources, such as Mike Burstin and the list managers, began posting to the list itself. C-Man (email_address_removed) and Jens (address withheld to prevent mail flooding) are currently listening in. We're actually quite lucky, since few bands take this kind of interest in their folks. On a similar note, over on Rush's TNMS, the three list mgr's are in contact with Rush's management by phone, and pass the info on. > Was Jens a connection to DT before this all happened, or just recently. He's been here for a while, just not as a member of DT (obviously.) :) Mike/email_address_removed/email_address_removed ------------------------------ Topic No. 5 Date: Fri, 12 Aug 1994 18:58:35 +0000 From: "james (j.) wolf" To: email_address_removed Subject: Jens Concerns Message-ID: <"2764 Fri Aug 12 14:58:46 1994"@bnr.ca> I've heard some of what Jens has done with Yngwie (who I'm not a big fan of- all chops and no songwriting), and it's undeniable that his chops are excellent. And I also realize that he is his own man and will not sound like Kevin Moore, which I don't expect (or want). But I have a few concerns: 1) Can he write songs? Kevin was an excellent songwriter, both musically and lyrically. I don't know of any songs Jens has written and don't know if he writes lyrics. If he can't, John will have to shoulder most of the lyric burden, unless the rest of the band also helps. 2) Is he too classically oriented? The neo-classical metal style that Yngwie played is cliched nowadays. Jens' leads were very classically influenced. I'd hate to see DT become too neoclassical. On I&W, Kevin outgrew the cliched neo-classical style. He became especially adept at pitch bending, which gave DT a jazzy feel at times. Can Jens bring something new (and not too neo-classical) to the band? 3) Is picking up Jens just a temporary fix? Since the album is coming out, DT obviously needs a keyboardist soon for touring purposes. Is Jens going to be with DT for just the tour? If he does intend to do more, how long will that last? A lot of the time when a big name joins a band, it is only a matter of time before he wants to do his own thing and leaves the band a year later to do other projects. These are just honest questions and are not meant to anger any Jens fans. ---------------- Wolf Man ------------------------------ Topic No. 6 Date: Fri, 12 Aug 94 17:10:02 EDT From: email_address_removed To: email_address_removed Subject: Tape Trading Message-ID: I'd like to do some tape trading if anyone is interested. If you would like to get a copy of my list, please send me e-mail. Thanks!! Jason ------------------------------ Topic No. 7 Date: Fri, 12 Aug 1994 16:24:54 PDT From: email_address_removed (Dr. Mosh) To: email_address_removed Subject: News about DT and Jens Message-ID: I recently had a chat with Jens Johansson and he gave me some news... He's been contacted by Dream Theater, he hasn't actually joined Dream Theater. Kevin Moore has definitely left Dream Theater. He's going to meet and jam with them this coming Tuesday, the 16th of August, according to him. He's had to learn 6:00, Lifting Shadows off a Dream, Surrounded, Learning to Live, just to name a few songs... There are other contenders for keyboardist at this point. At this point he would be "helping out on the tour" to quote him and might become a permanent member eventually... So there's some news... we'll know more next week! -The Doc -- #$%*#$*@ Real: email_address_removed + Virtual: email_address_removed *@#$*@#$ *#$*@#$* The Dream Theater Archives: ftp.netcom.com: /pub/drkhoe/dt &*@#$*@$ **%^$#$% WWW: "ftp://ftp.netcom.com/pub/drkhoe/www/dthome.html" #$**@#*$ *$*$*$*# Reality Enhancement Software - Engineering Reality *$&#*#@$ ------------------------------ Topic No. 8 Date: Fri, 12 Aug 1994 13:20:13 -0400 (EDT) From: Jens Johansson To: email_address_removed Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 484 Message-ID: On Fri, 12 Aug 1994 ytsejam@arastar.com wrote: > Date: Thu, 11 Aug 1994 15:45:32 -0400 (EDT) > From: Pinto > To: email_address_removed > Subject: Jens? Not yet.... > Message-ID: > > This just in: > > Yeah, I know, a reliable source confirmed Jens earlier in the week but > now such confirmation seems to be premature....bear with me--I'm trying > to get the best info to you guys (and gals? Please tell me there are > some women here, too! OK, I've had just about enough of the rumours and counter-rumours emanating from the person that posts from email_address_removed. 1) Kevin has left DT. (I was as mystified as anyone.) 2) I may replace him. I liked DT a lot before this happened, am familiar with the material, and have very similar influences. I haven't met with the band yet as they're all on vacation. [It's not really a decision for management to make in their absence.] Will meet/play with on Tuesday here in NYC. Hopefully the personal/musical chemistry works out between everybody. I did meet with James LaBrie briefly, and Kevin, strangely enough. 4) Lots of mail here lately. Haven't been able to reply to almost any of it, bear with me, I've saved it offline and will try to get to it later. Thanks for all the encouragement! :) I'll keep reading ytsejam and a.m.d-t periodically in the days ahead in any event. 5) More details later (maybe). Jens. ------------------------------ Topic No. 9 Date: Fri, 12 Aug 1994 20:18:35 +0800 From: email_address_removed (Ken Bibb) To: ytsejam Subject: foundation forum thing... Message-ID: Forward from email_address_removed follows. Hi all - I've seen a few mentions that DT is going to play at the "Foundation Forum" in Burbank. Does anyone have any details, such as when it is going to be? Thanks, - Brent ------------------------------ Topic No. 10 Date: Fri, 12 Aug 1994 20:19:25 +0800 From: email_address_removed (Ken Bibb) To: ytsejam Subject: ***Majesty Demo CD Order Info*** Message-ID: Forward from email_address_removed follows. Hello. I am going back to the store tonight to check on the order for all of the Majesty/DT demo CD's you all ordered. Basically this one guy who supplies like the ENTIRE country is behind or something. NOTE: I am going out of state tomorrow for 1 week and will not have vax access till the following Weekend. So I should know something else tonight, and i will post here if i do. Otherwise I will talk to you all with an update when i get back next weekend. Take Care. Tim ------------------------------ Topic No. 11 Date: Fri, 12 Aug 1994 20:20:39 +0800 From: email_address_removed (Ken Bibb) To: ytsejam Subject: **MAJESTY-DT DEMO CD'S ARRIVED !!!!** Message-ID: Forward from email_address_removed follows. Yes, that's not a misprint. Everyone who ordered DT or Majesty Demo cd's from me. They are IN STOCK right now but I am going out of state early tomorrow morning for a week. So I may be able to get some of them out tomorrow morning, but if not i will shipping them a week from this following monday. Take Care and send email if you have any questions or change or address or something. Tim L. email_address_removed ------------------------------ Topic No. 12 Date: Sat, 13 Aug 1994 00:53:03 +0800 From: email_address_removed (Ken Bibb) To: ytsejam Subject: lie Message-ID: Forward from email_address_removed follows. Hello- I just listened to Lie from the web for the first time, and I'd be lying if I didn't say I'm dissappointed as hell. It's good metal, but bad Dream Theater. It's definitely the most generic thing I've ever heard by them. I listen to Dream Theater because they are progressive, not because the have "balls and chunk." Any fucking punk who starts "playing" guitar to rebel against Daddy or get laid more often can have balls and chunk. I think that DT is the best band in existance right now, because they are so innovative, and such good songwriters, and (up til now) so different sounding. I do not know why they don't like being called "merely" a progressive band. Do they want to consider themselves a metal band? I do not consider them metal, and that is a compliment. Metal is great, but it is very limited in scope compared to Dream Theater's music. They are selling themselves short by calling themselves a metal band. I would consider them strongly influenced by metal, but can you tell me that "Surrounded" is the product of a heavy metal band? If so, we obviously disagree on what defines metal. I am very fearful now that, having been succesfully merketed as a metal band, they might go to great lengths to show that they are a chest thumping, thrashing, balls and chunk metal band that can compete with the best of them. Well that's not true. They are a progressive band that doesn't need to compete with the best of them, because no other band is even in the same league as DT. As for KM's departure, my paranoid little theory as stated above would tend to correspond with the specualtion here that KM left because he didn't like the heavier, less progressive direction the band planned to take in the future. Thanks for letting me rant. Now before you flame, keep the following things in mind: -I do like Lie. It is a good song. It's just not on par with DT's creative abilities, as I see them. -This is all speculation based on one song. I hope to god none of it's true, but I am fearful and angst ridden and wanted to express myself here on ytsejam. Let's hope the new album as a whole proves me to be a paranoid musical elitist. Rich ------------------------------ Topic No. 13 Date: Sat, 13 Aug 1994 00:54:05 +0800 From: email_address_removed (Ken Bibb) To: ytsejam Subject: T-shirt update Message-ID: Forward from email_address_removed follows. Hello again all you t-shirt orderers. Once again, I am NOT Jason Hough, so don't write me regarding specific orders. I am Jason GIles and am printing up the shirts for jason only. I have received the artwork, etc (it looks great!) and have sent the stuff off the the printers. They said they should be in Jason's hands within a few days, so hang in there, the should be in everyone's hands quite soon! =============================================================================== = Jason Giles = I am in the process of writing a drinking = = email_address_removed = games book. If you have an original game = = email_address_removed = for the book, I would like to add it! = = = There is a small reward! = =============================================================================== ------------------------------ Topic No. 14 Date: Fri, 12 Aug 1994 20:48:30 -0700 (PDT) From: Tymoteusz Altman To: email_address_removed Subject: Re: Jens Johansson Message-ID: i think Jens is for real. a friend (who is a huge Yngwie fan) told me that Jens once said something to the effect that if he wasn't playing with Yngwie, he would have been back in Sweeden selling computers. Now i don't know the exact comment, or if it's even true, but i suspect that it is. therefore, there is a real possibility that Jens is an internet user. Welcome Jens (I hope you DO end up joining DT). Good luck to Kevin. > > There seems to be a lot of conversation about Jens Johansson > being on Usenet and this list. Yeah, sure, I know there > have been posts sent with that name on the header. Of course, > it may very well be him fooling around the net, but... not > too long ago we had a post from Mr. Mike Portnoy on the list.... > > I'd also strongly suggest that you all read the chapter > "Celebrities Arriving on the Net" on "Zen and the Art of > Internet." ;) > > -- > Timo Haanpaa + "I'll always remember the chill of November; the noose > Finland + of the fall; the sounds in the hall; the clock on the > email_address_removed.fi + wall ticking away." (Dream Theater: A Change of Seasons) > > ------------------------------ Topic No. 15 Date: Sat, 13 Aug 94 12:39:04 EDT From: email_address_removed To: email_address_removed Subject: Re: Thoughts on this weeks happenings, etc. Message-ID: email_address_removed wrote: //>Please inform us that WHO told Kev's leaving. Did DT announce about it? >Did Kevin make his leaving cleaer? I don't believe about it without comment I do agree that we are entitled to know exactly who this information is coming from. So lets have it, I'm getting tired of people sitting on information.// I'm not the original person who posted the Kev info but since reading it here I've talked to many in the music biz including Lucy Sabini at EastWest in NY and they've all confirmed that Kev is no longer in DT. So, there. ;-) //Was Jens a connection to DT before this all happened, or just recently.// Apparently, he's known the band for a while. I've heard that in the 'Limelight' video boot he is briefly interviewed(?). StmpyJCat ------------------------------ Topic No. 16 Date: Sat, 13 Aug 1994 12:54:17 -0500 (EST) From: email_address_removed To: email_address_removed Subject: DT management info Message-ID: O.K. about two weeks ago, someone was trying to reach DT management to see if they could book a show with them, or something. Sorry this took me so long, but I had to dig for this info. I met Jim Putulski (thanked in WDADU and I&W, manager in LATM) about 10 months ago or so, and here's his info. Roundtable Entertainment c/o Jim Putulski 11 Penn Plaza, Suite 910 New York, NY 10001 Other addresses that you all probably already have: Dream Theater P.O. Box 166 Long Beach, NY 11561 Dream Theater c/o ATCO-East/West Records 75 Rockefeller Plaza New York, NY 10019 Hope this helps, KAI email_address_removed ------------------------------ Topic No. 17 Date: Sat, 13 Aug 94 12:45:01 PDT From: Tymoteusz Altman To: email_address_removed Message-ID: i forwarded Jens' original message to a friend who is a huge fan, this is what he wrote back. but as Jesn requested please don't flood his mailbox with mail. his '.plan' should tell you most of what you would want to know. from shinyash@sfu.ca wow! cool!!!!! i fingered Jens and his .plan and .project tell it all! cool! incidentally, he is on the same commercial network as was an actress from my favourite soap. (i even exchanged some email with her) but now i will someday come into contact with Jens Johanssen! that dude has been a total idol of mine for years! Here is his .plan and .project!!! Project: Er, avoiding creditors and learning a few Dream Theater songs.^M Plan:^M **************************************************************************^M ^M Congratulations (?), you have fingered email_address_removed (Jens Johansson)!^M ^M Here's a Jens Johansson FAQ for your troubles... I've been deluged with^M ^mail since I got my account here at panix so hopefully this can save us^M both some typing! :) (No, I don't mind getting mail, I just hate^M answering the same old questions!) ;)^M ^M -------^M ^M ^M Q: What are you up to at the moment?^M A: Look at the ~/.project file, it will be updated now and then.^M ^M Q: What have you been doing since 1987?^M A: I moved to New York City (from Los Angeles) in 1988 to settle down^M with a girl. Left Yngwie's band in '89 after hearing the mix on the^M Leningrad album - also, the record company (PolyGram) lost interest and^M the money situation started to suck onions. (I essentially got sick of^M the whole mess, it was time to move on -- a.k.a. "Musical Differences")^M Joined Ronnie Dio's band DIO in 89. Did one album with them, and a tour^M which incidentally Yngwie opened on. I've done other more mainstream^M studio work. I've worked a lot with Jonas Hellborg (he's a great Swedish^M bass player thart used to play with the Mahavishnu Orchestra) on^M avant-garde records, some on his label, Day Eight. Been touring the^M jazz/club circuit in Europe a lot with this kind of stuff. (It's a lot^M of fun.) Recorded a very strange solo album. Recently finished a^M made-for-Japan "band" album with a bunch of ex-Yngwie guys and some^M other Swedes. (I go back to Sweden a lot to work on stuff.)^M ^M Q: Do you still do studio work? Producing? Engineering? Drinking?^M A: Sure! Any reasonable suggestions will be considered carefully.^M ^M Q: What recent records would you recommend?^M A: At this point I'd really recommend "The Johansson Brothers" -- the^M made-for-Japan one. But it doesn't have US licensing yet though, you'd have to find an imported one. It's out in Scandinavia and Japan. Be warned, it's slightly poppy at times, but it also has three really complex instrumentals. (the longest one is over 10 minutes) Another one I quite like is the "E" album with "The Jonas Hellborg Group Featuring Anders & Jens Johansson" that came out the fall of 93. (Distributed by Celluloid/Music Sales here in the US.) The latter got a great write-up in Keyboard Magazine (March/94).. sample quote: "Johansson has the right combination of aggression, imagination, and command to shine in this setting. Nothing trips him up..." -- and it gets even better. :) :) The Ginger Baker one is kinda nice too, a little laid back though. (That's a Day Eight/Celluloid/Music Sales job also.) Q: How was Malmsteen to work with? A: No problem for me there.. he's a stubborn guy though, and can be quite blunt. He earned his bad reputation the hard way (by being truly offensive), and he's very proud of the fact. Still one of the best guitar players on the planet. I talk to him all the time... he's doing good, just got married again and has a new record out. ("The Seventh Seal", distributed by CMC in the US.) Q: Lastly, how about a discography? A: Here's all I can think of right now... Silver Mountain: Shakin' Brains (RoadRunner/83); Rising Force (all on PolyGram): Yngwie J. Malmsteen's Rising Force (84), Studio/Live-85 (85 (obviosly!)), Marching Out (85), Trilogy (86), Odyssey (88), and Live In Leningrad (89) [Also two feature length concert videos and three MTV-style videos]; Erik Borelius: Perfect Partners (EMI/87); DIO: Lock Up The Wolves (Warner Bros./90) [plus two MTV-style videos]; Jens Johansson: Fjaderlosa Tvafotingar (Amigo/91); DEADLINE: Dissident (Day Eight Music/91) [featuring Bill Laswell, Bootsy Collins, Jonas Hellborg, Ayib Dieng, and others]; Steve Ross: Midnight Drive (Shrapnel/91?) [Don't buy this one, it's awful]; Ginger Baker: Unseen Rain (DEM/92); RAF: Ode To a Tractor (DEM/92) [Peter Broetzmann, Ayib, Laswell, and others]; Shining Path: No Other World (DEM/92); Anders Johansson: Shu-Tka (DEM/92) [feat. Jamal Evans, Ahmed Alamnaghasi, Aydin Ozgorot, Tesfalidet Keflay and others]; Snake Charmer: Smoke And Mirrors (FEMS-Japan/93) Jonas Hellborg Group: "E" (DEM/93); The Johansson Brothers (Arctic Records/94 - ZERO Corp. in Japan); "Deep Purple Tribute" (Shrapnel/94?); "Tony McAlpine's new one" (Shrapnel/94?). Bulldog: The Return of Mr. Nasty (Arctic/94). Plus "Pianosaurus" (Arctic/94?) [still being recorded]. ------- Anyway, hey, thanks for fingering me, it felt good! Type "finger email_address_removed | more" if the message scrolls too quickly. See ya on the net! jens ------------------------------ End of YTSEJAM Digest 485 *************************