Date: Sat, 2 Apr 94 14:46:50 PST From: email_address_removed To: Multiple recipients of list Subject: YTSEJAM digest 362 Contents: Re: GC references (and DT too) ("Gary G. Moegling" ) Re: A Woman Speaks! (email_address_removed (Steve Mansfield)) Re: RE: Progressive metal (email_address_removed (Steve Mansfield)) Other mailing lists (Big Dog ) Re: YTSEJAM unsubscribe (terry kroetsch f ) Re: A Woman Speaks! (email_address_removed (Greg "Big Brother" Lee)) Re: BOOTS!!! ("Gary G. Moegling" ) Re: digest,etc. ("Gary G. Moegling" ) ACOS and DOE (Stephen Bajzek ) Questions about some rare DT stuff. (hartman larry ) Re: YTSEJAM digest 361 (Stephen Bajzek ) one more thing (Stephen Bajzek ) RE: GC references (and DT too) (email_address_removed.ac.uk) Re: RE: Progressive metal (email_address_removed.ac.uk) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Fri, 1 Apr 1994 00:09:36 -0600 (CST) From: "Gary G. Moegling" Subject: Re: GC references (and DT too) I'm also recieving the KISSARMY mailing list (joy), and I'm going to join recording.audio.pro. ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- According to the circle of fifths, and the pattern of sharps and flats: If the alphabet continued as notes progressed (i.e, a,a#,b,c,c#...g#,h,i,j,etc) eventually the key of Z Major would have 4 sharps. Eric Moegling email_address_removed ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- On Tue, 29 Mar 1994, Andrew Cloninger wrote: > For those who had posted wondering about it, i noticed that there is a > movie by the title of "About Mrs. Leslie" I could post a short synopsis > of it ...for those who might be seeking enlightenment concerning that song. > > on the DT front, i found myself noticing postings on various mailing > lists, from people connect with other lists that didnt seem at ALL > connected. How many of you out there subscribe to the ML of a group that > might not have anything in common with DT? In my case, i also belong to > Echoes/Pink Floyd(when its up), Alan Parsons Project, Enya and Steely > Dan. Anyone else? > > Andrew > -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- > This area under construction | > Watch for dropping hints | > -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 1 Apr 1994 06:23:54 -0500 (EST) From: email_address_removed (Steve Mansfield) Subject: Re: A Woman Speaks! > Personally, I feel that women liking Dt are really cool. I see nothing > wrong with it just like I see nothing wrong with men liking let's say > classical music (although most men would be looked down upon by other > men for doing so; it's just a stereotype though). Well, that's just Well, fine! But I'm not getting rid of any of my Rymskii-Korsakov just for you!!! 8-) > my thoughts about the subject. I feel as though I can communicate with > a woman more easily if she can relate to my musical likings. > later, gary Steve Mansfield | Once you're touched you stand alone to face the bitter fight email_address_removed | Once I reached for love but now I reach for life. Dream Theater - Learning to Live ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 1 Apr 1994 06:31:04 -0500 (EST) From: email_address_removed (Steve Mansfield) Subject: Re: RE: Progressive metal > What are Saviour Machine, Savatage, and Sacred Warrior like? I'm looking for > more progressive music (still can't find Magellan); any pointers are > welcome. Also, what is the newsgroup address for prog? Savatage is the only one I can reply to here. I really like them. They're a very diverse band, in the sense that DT is diverse, being very heavy at times, and then very melodic and playing a number of ballads as well. I have 4 of their albums, "Streets, a Rock Opera," "Hall of the Mountain King,", their latest "Edge of Thorns," and a best-of type album. I like all of these very much. The last album has a new singer, and their original guitarist died late last year in an automobile accident. The latest rumor is that Alex Skolnik is going to replace him. Hopefully, if true, he'll be able to fill in the songwriting hole that Chris' death created. In any case, I would highly recommend giving them a listen. Steve Mansfield | Once you're touched you stand alone to face the bitter fight email_address_removed | Once I reached for love but now I reach for life. Dream Theater - Learning to Live ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 1 Apr 1994 08:52:58 -0500 (EST) From: Big Dog Subject: Other mailing lists Other mailing lists that I am on, they have nothing in common with DT, are KISS and Def Leppard. Also, when you reply to a large post with a couple of lines can you trim down the original article? There is nothing more annoying than reading the same huge article over and over and over again. Pat Daugherty email_address_removed "Every breath leaves me one less to my last" --Dream Theater ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 1 Apr 1994 08:41:49 -0400 (EDT) From: terry kroetsch f Subject: Re: YTSEJAM unsubscribe unsubscribe ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 1 Apr 94 14:02:49 EST From: email_address_removed (Greg "Big Brother" Lee) Subject: Re: A Woman Speaks! > Personally, I feel that women liking Dt are really cool. I see nothing > wrong with it just like I see nothing wrong with men liking let's say > classical music (although most men would be looked down upon by other Personally, I love classical music. What can I say, I like the extremes! Metal, and classical...give me DT any day, but at the same time, just after I crank Metropolis to full blast, I don't mind cranking up a little Vivaldi and rocking to Four Seasons! > men for doing so; it's just a stereotype though). Well, that's just > my thoughts about the subject. I feel as though I can communicate with > a woman more easily if she can relate to my musical likings. Of course you can...it gives you something more to talk about that the usual drivel that comes out of your mouth. Later! Greg. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 1 Apr 1994 23:33:24 -0600 (CST) From: "Gary G. Moegling" Subject: Re: BOOTS!!! No prob dude!!! I'm going to check up on it tomorrow, and see what it consists of. I could be mistaken, but I'm pretty sure it was diminsion shift. ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- According to the circle of fifths, and the pattern of sharps and flats: If the alphabet continued as notes progressed (i.e, a,a#,b,c,c#...g#,h,i,j,etc) eventually the key of Z Major would have 4 sharps. Eric Moegling email_address_removed ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- On Thu, 31 Mar 1994, Michael Bahr wrote: > > For anyone interested, I can get Skyway of Nightmares and Diminsion > > shift. The guy I get boots from ordered them, thinking that I'd want > > them, but I don't. These are new CD's, and I told him that since he > > ordered them, I'd try to get rid of them for him. The cost will be $25 > > plus whatever it costs to ship a CD these days (probably a dollar or so). > > Anyone interested, please E-MAIL me (the adress is in my SIG)!!! Later > > fellow DT fans!!! > > When you get Dimension Shift,PLEASE let us at Ytse know all about > it! I didn't get much info on it at all when I was compiling input for > the discography. > > Mike/email_address_removed/email_address_removed/email_address_removed > > ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 1 Apr 1994 23:34:41 -0600 (CST) From: "Gary G. Moegling" Subject: Re: digest,etc. Alright!!! More Women on the net. Is this COOL or what!!!??? ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- According to the circle of fifths, and the pattern of sharps and flats: If the alphabet continued as notes progressed (i.e, a,a#,b,c,c#...g#,h,i,j,etc) eventually the key of Z Major would have 4 sharps. Eric Moegling email_address_removed ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- On Thu, 31 Mar 1994, Stacie Rosenzweig wrote: > Two things: > First, how do I change from digest to mail form? I know this has been > answered before, but I didn't need the info then. I've tried sending a help > message, but that didn't do much good (the message only said how to get the > digest, but not the mail, form) > Second, I'm another female on this list. There are some female DT/Prog-rock > fans (the concert was pretty mixed, but it was "free" with Summerfest > admission, so I don't know how many women were there because they liked DT > and how many were there because it was something to do). We're out here -- > somewhere. > > Stacie > ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 2 Apr 1994 00:43:30 -0500 (EST) From: Stephen Bajzek Subject: ACOS and DOE Okay, about whether DOE is soundboard or audience, I think it's definitely soundboard, and the reason it's so well produced is this: they planned on releasing it. Remember last summer when "A Change of Seasons" (Live) was scheduled to be released on August 17? I think DOE is the concert they were planning to use for that. The release was probably cancelled because they didn't think the performance was good enough. Anyway, that's what I think about the thing... -max ................................................. "Women. Can't live with 'em, pass the beer nuts." ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 2 Apr 1994 00:44:36 -0500 (EST) From: hartman larry Subject: Questions about some rare DT stuff. I have some kinda rare DT stuff on tape and was wondering if anyone knows much about them, or could they find out. Here goes... 1. On the tape of Wanted Dead or Alive.. a) Who is singing? Chris Collins? b) Who(m) is making the Beavis and Butthead type comments in the back? 2. On O Holy Night... a) Charlie Dominici ( I'm pretty sure ) sings most of it but who does the second (3rd?) verse. I don't think that it is John P. Maybe its Kevin... 3. Who sings Golden Slumbers? Chris Collins? Who else likes the song Don't Look Past Me? I really like it. I like the version that Chris Cintron does. I also like the studio version of Change of Season with him singing. Is it just me or is John Arch the worst singer in the world? I've never heard him with Fates Warning but from the few songs on the DT singer audition tapes, he sounds like a real joke. It sounds like he was trying to be awful on purpose. The Terry Brown remixs of Status Seeker and Afterlife sound incredible! They sound like a different band!! I hope that he is doing the next album. I can't wait for some new DT!!!!!!! Well that enough for now.... See ya all! ************************************************************************** * Jason Hartman "I am the Killing Hand!" email_address_removed * * * * Find all you need in your mind, if you Take the Time - Dream Theater * ************************************************************************** ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 2 Apr 1994 05:22:14 -0500 (EST) From: Stephen Bajzek Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 361 > I got word from a local Wherehouse store (a chain of audio/video > stores in the western U.S.) that they expect a new album by Dream Theater > to be on the shelves in three weeks. Joy!!!!!!!! Pull the other one. -max ................................................. "Women. Can't live with 'em, pass the beer nuts." ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 2 Apr 1994 05:28:33 -0500 (EST) From: Stephen Bajzek Subject: one more thing > ...As for the band, they are currently writing and > rehearsing for the new album. They met with a few producers last > week, but they have not yet decided who will produce this next > album. I was lucky enough to hear some of the new material: One new > song is a ten minute epic very much in the DT tradition and another > is an acoustic piece that might be part of a trilogy of sorts... " A trilogy of sorts...hmm, Metropolis part 2, maybe? I don't know, it hadn't occurred to me until a few weeks ago that there might be more than 2 parts... -max ................................................. "Women. Can't live with 'em, pass the beer nuts." ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 02 Apr 1994 12:14:12 EST From: email_address_removed.ac.uk Subject: RE: GC references (and DT too) > For those who had posted wondering about it, i noticed that there is a > movie by the title of "About Mrs. Leslie" I could post a short synopsis > of it ...for those who might be seeking enlightenment concerning that song. yeah please do!!!..... still don`t know if the guys based it on that film though.... anyway those interested in the Galactic Cowboys, Metal CD had this to say... Take a 4 way collision, of Metallica, Dream Theater, Faith No More and The Beatles and plug into the National Grid. Confused?. You should be... The Galactic Cowboys manage to pack more creativity into one song than many bands manage in a career.... It then went to talk about specific songs... I think Space In Your Face is awesome, though the first is good too... I`m a bit miffed they got dropped by Geffen since I`ve been a fan since I heard the pre-release tapoe of the first album about 3 years ago... Clive. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 02 Apr 1994 12:32:59 EST From: email_address_removed.ac.uk Subject: Re: RE: Progressive metal > > What are Saviour Machine, Savatage, and Sacred Warrior like? I'm looking > > for progressive music (still can't find Magellan); any pointers are > > welcome. Also, what is the newsgroup address for prog? > Savatage is the only one I can reply to here. I really like them. > They're a very diverse band, in the sense that DT is diverse, being very > heavy at times, and then very melodic and playing a number of ballads as > well. I have 4 of their albums, "Streets, a Rock Opera," "Hall of the > Mountain King,", their latest "Edge of Thorns," and a best-of type album. > I like all of these very much. The last album has a new singer, and > their original guitarist died late last year in an automobile accident. > The latest rumor is that Alex Skolnik is going to replace him. > Hopefully, if true, he'll be able to fill in the songwriting hole that > Chris' death created. In any case, I would highly recommend giving them > a listen. What is this 'best-of' album that you talk about?.. as far as I`m aware their albums are as follows "Sirens", "The Dungeons Are Calling", "Power Of The Night""Fight For The Rock", "Hall Of The Mountain King", "Gutter Ballet", "Streets: A Rock Opera" and "Edge Of Thorns" .... the best being IMHO Streets, Gutter Ballet and Hall Of The Mountain King.... the last one has a new singer and although it`s a good album, it kinda lacks something the previous three had.. The Dungeons Are Calling is by far the worst, it`s pretty awful... They are kinda of progressive power metal, a pretty unique sound, and have done really cool mellow stuff.... I`d second the recommendation.... Well I posted the original list of prog metal that I liked that contained Saviour Machine and Sacred Warrior.... er... I dunno how to describe Saviour Machine since their music is very varied.. the only have one self-titled CD, released about 6 or 7 months ago on Intense Records.. The first song "Carnival Of Souls" sounds like a mix of Pink Floyd without the pomp, Dream Theater without the flashy solos, Marillion and U2 around the unforgettable fire era... Personally I like the slower songs that have loads of tension, and really build dynamically... "A World Alone" is kinda like DT`s "To Live Forever" except much better... The CD has a running time of 70 minutes.... I really like the use of piano and mellow orchestration.. The guitar doesn`t play a dominate a role as say in Dream Theater or the heavier progressive bands.. the guy is a really good singer too.... I suppose I should mention in case it makes a difference, that they are a Christian band.. the lyrics are based on the guys spiritual struggles and some a based on very disturbing imagery of the beast from the book of revelation.... basically *I* think it`s excellent.... Sacred Warrior (again Christian band) are in the Queensryche/Fates Warning/ Crimson Glory vein.... well their first album "Rebellion" is basically a hard rock effort, while their second "Master`s Command" is like Iron Maiden in places.... the third "Wicked Generation" is queensryche style progressive rock, with songs like "Standing Free" sounding like a mix of "The Lady Wore Black" and "Eyes Of A Stranger"... a rather strange of dynamics on this album, but it`s very good.... their last album "Obsessions" has a cleaner sound and is my favourite, probably went in a similar direction as Queensryche did when they went from "Operation Mindcrime" to "Empire"... the songs are more structured and sort of catchy... "Turning Back" and "Madman" make good use of acoustic guitar and really build towards a climax.... Well.. that`s it.. I`m outta here..... Clive. ------------------------------ End of Digest ************************