Date: Sat, 12 Feb 94 16:42:00 PST From: email_address_removed To: Multiple recipients of list Subject: YTSEJAM digest 325 Contents: Re: Shirts (Jason Hough ) Re: YTSEJAM digest 323 (email_address_removed (Ken Higginson)) Re: ACOS Lyrics (email_address_removed.de (Tim Schwartz)) Argh! (email_address_removed (Michael A. Daugherty)) DTM/Powermad/Watchtower (The Alchemist ) Dance of eternity (Mr W Marquering ) boot videos-review (email_address_removed (Pat Daugherty)) Comparing DT to other bands (KLGOOD1 ) Re: Last hope for balls and chunk (Tymoteusz Altman ) A Change Of Season lyrics (Michael Burstin ) Re: ACOS Lyrics (Michael Bahr ) DT Questions and Answers (email_address_removed) Re: Shirts ("Gary G. Moegling" ) Re: YTSEJAM digest 324 (email_address_removed (Ken Higginson)) Request (email_address_removed (Michael A. Daugherty)) LiTvideo (Lars"ORION"Karlsson ) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Fri, 11 Feb 1994 00:26:08 -0800 (PST) From: Jason Hough Subject: Re: Shirts On Thu, 10 Feb 1994, Paul W. Cashman wrote: > >What is the status of the shirts? > > "When we last left our story, an ash-colored shirt with "Let light > surround you" in white glow-in-the-dark paint was leading the pack. > The image to appear on such a shirt was still up in the air. More > news later on this Dream Theater network station." > I think I am leaning toward a Red majesty logo on the front left breast and "DREAM THEATER" in large DT font on the back. With the quote as above. Will finalize this by monday. Sorry for the delays! Work is work... ytsejam-owner -----------------------------) Jason Hough - email_address_removed Nextmail is fine "I'm ashes on the water now, somewhere far away..." -Marillion (----------------------------- ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 11 Feb 94 04:05:03 MST From: email_address_removed (Ken Higginson) Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 323 About the "non-fan:" Dream Theater is, and always will be, and band for musicians first, music lovers second. Casual listeners will never understand how difficult Myung's tapping section is in "Metropolis", the 9/8 time signature of "Take the Time", Petrucci's solo in "Under a Glass Moon", Moore's guitar-like keyboard work, Portnoy's amazing drum ability and James' voice... And that's great... Let people swoon over Pearl Jam and Nirvana... We know what *MUSICIANSHIP* is... 5 guys from NY (well, one from Canada). About "Eve:" The song is perfoemed two ways, depending on when you saw Dream Theater live. If you caught them on the first leg of their US tour, the song had "lyrics" which is actually a poem, which is read at different parts throughout the song... However, on the final leg of the US tour, "Eve" was moved to the encore section of the show... The first song they play when they come back out. This version has no lyrics, and is strictly an instrumental... ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 11 Feb 1994 12:21:12 +0100 (CET) From: email_address_removed.de (Tim Schwartz) Subject: Re: ACOS Lyrics Hi DT Fans! Well someone asked for the Change of Season lyrics. Here they are as they were posted by Michael Burstin: From: Michael Burstin To: Multiple recipients of list Subject: Lyrics for Change of Season Status: RO Well, after spending an hour and a half on these, here is a copy of the lyrics from A Change of Season. I think that everything is very close to the lyrics, although I am not perfect. There are only a few words that I am not sure about in the entire song. Anyway, here goes. Change Of Seasons * indicates that the version that I am taking the lyrisc from has this line in a different background voice (very soft) I am not sure if Dances of Eternity version contains these lines. Times given in brackets are the start or end time of the section. ??? indicates that I am not sure of the word, or part of the world (?) indicates that I think that this word is correct there are also some notes given in brackets. I remember a time [1:46] my ????ed virgin mind. Watch the crimson sunrise imagine what in my mind [it might find on DoE] Life was filled with wonder I've felt the warm wind blow I must explore the boundaries tredged in the depths of winter snow innoscence caressing me I never felt so young before there was so much life to see yet I knew there must be more. [2:35] But these days are gone now [2:42] changed like a leaf on a tree gone away forever into the cool autumn breeze the snow has now fallen and I know where I stand all of my childhood memories left lying in the sand. [3:12] In my gang(?) of in??egratity [3:25] ?????? sent delicacy struggled to find the seam struggled to ease the pain and the rich(?) are rubbing me I've never been so filled with fear now I know that there is more the warmth is gone but the t????l forever healed [4:00] *do you know what carpe diem is? *Seize the day I'll always remember [4:20] the chill of November the noose(?) of the fall the sounds in the hall the clock on the wall ticking away Seize the day I heard him say life will not always be this way look around, and hear the sound another time like this can't be found [5:10] *life is too short to dwell on out tragedies *what's the use of looking back *what's the use of looking ahead *today's the day we can learn from the past [5:19] but those days are gone *we can hope for the future *though there may not be one words ??? ??? in the night [5:40] the rest ??? to learn I have seized the day to home I return preparing for the fight [6:20] I have with all my might here in my deepest fright she walked into the night she turned for one last look she looked me in the eye I said I love you goodbye [6:39] [short instrumental section] Please don't go [6:55] [long instrumental section] [strange mumblings] [9:53] So far so few between my eyes filled full with desire fulfilled all my dreams come true all the world and all of you everyday there's a constant reminder with all the pleasures we shared together love is not just a passing word Is a state of heart that goes on forever [this next section was not in my version, so this is from DoE] I was blinded by a paradise [10:55] you took me up high in the sky the love there will ne'er come down deep in sorrow, wandering faraway [back to the origional] I stood outside in the rain for us [11:20] I tried to work out all of the pain for us I sat alone and took the blame for us my mind has torn and gone insane for us innoscent sinner [11:45] repeat offender promisques promiser faith lender indecisive decessions torn with heartless division shattering all of my visions of love all of the world, I give to you [12:59] all of the world, all of the world, I give to you all of the world, [long instrumental section] [13:25] *children of yesterday, errors of tomorrow *what do you mean, ladden of sorrow *look to your loneliness again faster and faster *???? with ???? prepared by the master. [short instrumental section] I'm much wiser now [17:30] a lifetime of memories run through my head memories they taught me for better or worse, alive or dead I realize, there's no turning back life goes on, they all meet at 12 [not sure about this phrase] [short instrumental section] I sit down with my son [18:11] can't you see the crimson sunset he's my only one now that my time has come now that my day is done looking into the sun he said "don't go don't go please don't go don't go NOW don't go" [there are a few more don't go's in DoE version, but this is close] * for the first time in a long time * I felt at peace [song ends at 19:33] -- +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ | I was told there's a miricle for each day that I try | | I was told there's a new love that's born for each one that has died | | I was told there'd be no one to call on when I feel alone and afraid | | I was told if you dream of the next world | | You'll find yourself swimming in a lake of fire | | Dream Theater Metropolis (part 1) Images and Words | | Michael Burstin Brandeis University | +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ | Let's Go Pens Let's Go Pens Lets Go Pens Let's Go Pens | +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ For info on Dream Theater, some Steven Wright jokes, the master list of pickup lines, a revised history of the world, a few blond jokes: finger email_address_removed >mikeb.finger.file Tim Schwartz email_address_removed.de DT rules!!!!!!!! ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 11 Feb 94 9:06:21 EST From: email_address_removed (Michael A. Daugherty) Subject: Argh! And I thought DT fans were supposed to be opened minded. Asia, Kansas, Styx AND Def Leppard are all FINE bands. They might not be the type of music you like, but lets see you get up there and do better, chances are you wont even get the chance. As for the person's friend, YES, Dream Theater, as with all music, takes a few listens to get used to. I remember when I first got image and words, Pull Me Under was the only song I listened too. Only after forcing myself to listen to the rest of the album, did I start to like it. Please people, dont be so closed minded. Not every band can sound the way you like your music to sound, but be appreciative of each bands creativeness and style for making music. +Michael -- ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 11 Feb 1994 10:36:35 -0700 (MST) From: The Alchemist Subject: DTM/Powermad/Watchtower On Tue, 8 Feb 1994 A Lerxst in Wonderland wrote: > wow, i didn't know so many of you were into dtm also! i also saw them I first heard about DTM while reading a Guitar for the Practicing Musician magazine... I saw the ad for their (self-titled) album and saw a phone number where I could call to hear free music... If any of you out there who haven't heard their album and want the number to preview it, let me know and I will dig it up and post it. It's completely toll free so no worries there. > powermad (i like these guys, give me your thoughts!) I bought these guys' CD "Absolute Power"... It is tremendously excellent! I heard they made another album while they were still around, but I have yet to hear it. I placed an order at the local Sam Goody's but haven't heard anything about it yet (it's been several months so I assume that it's unavailable.. but who's to say? Sam Goody's isn't exactly the BEST music store in the world...) I saw the video for Nice Dreams, which made me buy the CD... If any of you have a copy of this video let me know, I would like a copy!!! (The video is really cool and I saw it on the old Night Flight TV show which made it even cooler) I would also like any TAB on these guys that anybody has...? > watchtower - really complex technical stuff, makes dt seem very normal > i saw these guys in houston once, and they played a voivod meets > dt version of all of 2112. These guys sound cool. I'd like to hear them... any thoughts? ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- The Alchemist Anthony Chavez email_address_removed Salt Lake Community College ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- "What are you gonna do, BLEED on me?" - Monty Python and the Holy Grail ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 11 Feb 1994 19:41:54 +0000 (GMT) From: Mr W Marquering Subject: Dance of eternity Today I finally got hold of the Dance of Eternity boot and I must say you all were right: it souds incredible (especially the drumsound). Great artwork too! (ofcourse my 2cd holder was broken...). The 20 minites epic 'A change of seasons' (never heard it before) is an outstanding piece of work. Would anyone be so kind to mail me the lyrics of ACOS, Forever and Eve? Does anybody know where the voice samples of 'Eve' are taken from? My vote on the shirt thing: The majesty symbol on the front, 'Dream' above the sybol and 'Theater' (in red/yellow) below. On the back the glowing in the dark quote 'Let light surround you'(I really dislike the chunks quote) and our mail address beneath it. Colour of shirt:black (I can't think of any other suitable colour). Maybe a suggestion: A long sleeve shirt (these are quite populair in the UK, do they have these in the States?) with the symbol and 'Dream Theater' written on the sleeves. Last thing: If you like 'mellow' concept albums like Misplaced Childhood and The Wall, check out the new Marillion CD, called Brave. It has some great songs on it. ------------------------------------------------- Wessel email_address_removed.ac.uk ------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 11 Feb 94 14:42 EST From: email_address_removed (Pat Daugherty) Subject: boot videos-review here are some reviews from a couple of boot videos that i have: Daughters of Time: metroplois a fortune in lies under a glass moon surrounded ytsejam another day pull me under take the time wait for sleep learning to live from Ft Lauderdale 2-23-93 75min excellent sound and video Hammerjacks: metropolis under a glass moon only a matter of time surrounded pmu ytse jam another day a killing hand pmu -video from Hammerjacks, Baltimore MD 12-11-92 75 min from their first stop there, unfortunately I saw them on their second stop there. excellent video, sound ius bad when James hits certain notes it is taken from the second floor during the show James says settle down people no need to hutrt each other he also offers Another Day as a tribute to a member of the band Iroc NOTE:i I DO NOT HAVE ANY MEANS TO MEAKE DUPLICATES. I WOULD IF I COULD --Pat Daugherty email_address_removed ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 11 Feb 1994 14:23:40 -0600 From: KLGOOD1 Subject: Comparing DT to other bands Actually, comparing DT to Kansas is VERY reasonable. Pick up some of Kansas's stuff if you don't have it, and listen to some of the instrumental parts. Some of it is so close, it's incredible. Good stuff... k.goodwin university of illinois P.S. - I'm going to a record convention tomorrow...What's the next best boot besides DOE? Also, are there any other promo-type things I should be on the lookout for? ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 11 Feb 1994 12:44:35 -0800 (PST) From: Tymoteusz Altman Subject: Re: Last hope for balls and chunk > > OK, I know that I'm fighting a lost battle here, but I'm going to > make one last attempt. When analyzing our esteemed percussionist's > quote, "Balls and chunk is where it's at," one might overlook it's > deeper significance. > > By stating this (as crude as it may be), Portnoy professed the lack > of inclination DT has to sell out. I feel that by sticking to their > ideals, they have shown incredible strength of character, and have > avoided the tempting trap of Top 40 pop music. Even the most > marginal DT fan should be imprssed by this virtue. > > Moreover, this quote is one that will not be easily recognized by > moderate DT fans, only by us extreme DT lovers. This profound prose > could only serve to perpetuate the presence of DT worshippers and > ytsejam subscribers, such as ourselves. What's more, when you see > Mike at the next show, he'll really dig it! > > Is anybody with me? Please? Maybe we could make our own shirts! > > "Balls and chunk is where it's at." > -Adam Bertapelle > i'm with you a 100%! too bad others aren't. i'd love to have this quote make it. tim. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 11 Feb 1994 22:09:34 -0500 (EST) From: Michael Burstin Subject: A Change Of Season lyrics Hi there. I have been trying to upload the lyrics for A Change Of Season to the music archieves at cs.uwp.udu and I change into the /pub/music/incoming/lyrics directory and try to make a dir called dream.theater and it gives a problem, since there is already a link the the other DT directories, so I tried to make a dream.theater.lyrics directory, as well as a few others, and none of them will allow me to make a dir. I am not sure how to go about making a dir there, since it won't let me use the logical commands. Anyone out there able to give me a hint as to what to do? -- +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ | The way your heart sounds makes all the difference | | It's what decides if you'll endure the pain that we all feel | | The way your heart beats makes all the difference | | In learning to live | | Dream Theater Learning To Live Images and Words | | Michael Burstin Brandeis University | +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ | Let's Go Pens Let's Go Pens Lets Go Pens Let's Go Pens | +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ For more info about Dream Theater: finger email_address_removed ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 11 Feb 1994 22:55:12 -40962758 (MST) From: Michael Bahr Subject: Re: ACOS Lyrics > > Say, > Did anyone "take the time" to or attempt to post the lyrics to A Change > of Seasons to the lyric server, as i dont remember seeing them in the DT > directory before. Does someone still HAVE them , such that they could do > so? Thought that it might be useful, as it seems to be quite a > momumental talk to transcribe them. Michael Burstin did them for the FAQW, which I have redone in several sections (FAQ, Discography, bootleg listing, and lyrics listing) and I'll post it as soon as I figure out how to remove all these goddamn MS-DOS ctrl-M characters fromthe end of each line! (grin) Speaking of which, to all on the list: I find it's really hard to keep up all of these sections in good time and accurately. I was doing rather well with the discography before and I like doing the bootleg listing also, can anyone take over for the faql.dt and lyrics.dt files? Mike/email_address_removed ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 12 Feb 94 01:49:56 EST From: email_address_removed Subject: DT Questions and Answers In the FAQ (I happened to be reading it again, looking for what's on Home Sweet Home), it says: >> 1.5 Andrea Held Leone and Ralph R. Dominici Sr. are mentioned in the liner notes to WDADU as the dedicants. What relation to the band are they? Anyone? << Well, I ASSUME that Ralph R. Dominici is Charles Dominici's father, relative, etc? Question: Where is the best version of Only a Matter of Time? Is it on Live In Long Island: Home At Last or Classics Live or Home Sweet Home? I really like this song, and want to hear James doing the vocals. Which CD has the best quality of these three? ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 12 Feb 1994 01:09:24 -0600 (CST) From: "Gary G. Moegling" Subject: Re: Shirts I'm all for the glow in the dark "Let light surround you" T-shirt! Surrounded is one of my favorites(aside from every other DT song I've heard), and I think that wearing a shirt would not only get people's attention, but it would make me (being the huge DT fan that I am) totally proud! Also, make sure you give out the adress of where we can send $ so we can get these totally cool shirts! On Fri, 11 Feb 1994, Jason Hough wrote: > On Thu, 10 Feb 1994, Paul W. Cashman wrote: > > > >What is the status of the shirts? > > > > "When we last left our story, an ash-colored shirt with "Let light > > surround you" in white glow-in-the-dark paint was leading the pack. > > The image to appear on such a shirt was still up in the air. More > > news later on this Dream Theater network station." > > > > I think I am leaning toward a Red majesty logo on the front left breast > and "DREAM THEATER" in large DT font on the back. > > With the quote as above. > > Will finalize this by monday. Sorry for the delays! Work is work... > > ytsejam-owner > > > -----------------------------) > Jason Hough - email_address_removed > Nextmail is fine > "I'm ashes on the water now, somewhere far away..." -Marillion > (----------------------------- > > ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 12 Feb 94 01:48:27 MST From: email_address_removed (Ken Higginson) Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 324 I don't know if this got lost in the shuffle, but I think an hourglass would be a good image for a shirt... It's been in both videos, and we're hard-pressed to find something DT related that they haven't used themselves.. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 12 Feb 94 9:43:49 EST From: email_address_removed (Michael A. Daugherty) Subject: Request As some of you might have remembered, I had a progressive music discussion channel set up on IRC, but unfortunately the system administrators here at my system do not allow the running of IRC robots. What I need is someone who has access to IRC, who would like to put a bot up on their system. I will supply all the files and the bot and the instructions, I just need an account to run it on so I can keep it up 24 hours a day. It wont take up that much room in case your worried about quota space, maybe 100k, possibly more if I include FAQ files in the robot. Someone e-mail me if interested. Also: I need to know how to subscribe to the marillion mailing list and the hard rock list as well. Thanks in advance +Michael -- ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 12 Feb 1994 22:13:58 +0100 (MET) From: Lars"ORION"Karlsson Subject: LiTvideo We got it at last! The Live in Tokyo video was released in Europe yesterday (at least in Sweden) I think it's great, but I want some more videos. If theres anyone out there in Europe who got any other DT live videoclips then LiT, please mail me. Unfortunately I can't use any american video recordings. Different systems in Europe and in the US. Tomorrow it's time for the 1 hour DT concert on the radio and i'll be back with the playlist later. -- ***************************************************************************** * Lars Karlsson ** Sandviken ** SWEDEN ** email: email_address_removed.se * *---------------------------------------------------------------------------* ** Dream Theater ** Saigon Kick ** Led Zeppelin ** Metallica * Deep Purple ** ** MAGELLAN ** SHADOW GALLERY ** DAN REED NETWORK ** AC DC * BLACK SABBATH ** ** Queensryche ** Galactic Cowboys ** Rush ** Psychotic Waltz ** Rainbow *** ***************************************************************************** ------------------------------ End of Digest ************************